View Full Version : Boss Event Data Collection - Calling All Stat Heads!!!!!
The Billionaire
09-21-2012, 09:39 PM
So we've had a few boss events now and i have to say i am throughly enjoying them, thanks Gree.
As with any new content there's an unknown factor which we are left to work for ourselves. Luckily for us we have a community of mostly intelligent people here on the forum and we always get there in end.
I'm currently in the process of working out all the ins and outs of these boss events. Thanks to some great work from White Frog he has figured out the different tiers and they are as follows:
Tier 1 - Levels 1 to 25
Tier 2 - Levels 26 to 50
Tier 3 - Levels 51 to 75
Tier 4 - Levels 76 to 100
Tier 5 - Levels 101 to 200
So whilst he's been doing that i've been trying to figure out how many points are needed to beat each boss for each of the different tiers.
With the latest boss event i have managed to figure out some good estimates regarding how many points are needed to beat each boss in tier 1. I have also figured out how much XP is awarded for beating each boss. See the table below.
Anyway the point of this thread is to gather more data. I currently have all my data from every boss event so far which gives me a good starting point for figuring out the points needed for tiers 2 and 5.
When the next boss event starts my Avon account will be in tier 3 so i will be able to collect some data for that tier. I've got two more nightshifts to work this week so i'm hoping to have the points needed for tier 2 figured out by the end of my two nightshifts.
Anyway what i need from you guys is any data from tier 4 because i'm not going to be able to collect that data anytime soon. The data i'm after is as follows:
Boss Level - Attack Score - Number of hits it took to kill the boss
If anyone can provide solid data for the above criteria for any of the tiers that would also be greatly appreicated. One problem i have is my Avon account is so strong that for the first 17 levels i was killing the boss with one hit so it's going to be hard to work out the points needed for the first 17 levels. My figures are only good estimates at the moment and once i have a full set i will release a table for everyone to scrutinise and correct so we end up with some solid data.
Anyway stat heads, get to work.
Boss Level
Points Needed To Beat The Boss
XP Awarded For Beating The Boss
1
100
10
2
200
15
3
300
20
4
400
25
5
500
30
6
1,000
35
7
1,500
40
8
2,000
45
9
2,500
50
10
3,000
55
11
3,500
60
12
4,000
65
13
4,500
70
14
5,000
75
15
6,000
80
16
7,000
85
17
8,000
90
18
9,500
95
19
11,000
100
20
13,500
105
21
15,000
110
22
20,000
115
23
25,000
120
24
30,000
125
25
35,000
130
26
40,000
135
27
45,000
140
28
50,000
145
29
55,000
150
30
60,000
155
31
65,000
160
32
70,000
165
33
75,000
170
34
80,000
175
35
85,000
180
36
90,000
185
37
95,000
190
38
100,000
195
39
105,000
200
40
110,000
205
41
115,000
210
42
120,000
215
43
125,000
220
44
130,000
225
45
135,000
230
46
140,000
235
47
145,000
240
48
150,000
245
49
155,000
250
50
160,000
255
The Billionaire
09-22-2012, 01:06 PM
Ok
Looks like i'm on my own then.
Don't worry guys i'll figure it out.
I'm surprised nobody has any data for me :(
Dipstik
09-22-2012, 01:12 PM
I'd help, but I'm lazy. Thanks, though.
The Billionaire
09-22-2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks lol, at least i got a reply. I'm pretty much there apart from tier 4. It would of been nice to have someone else's data to test my figures with.
iteachem
09-22-2012, 01:15 PM
I would love to help as well. I will see what I can do to help gather data for the next boss event. Won't get past 19 this time without leveling or gold (Maybe both)
Dipstik
09-22-2012, 01:22 PM
Level 20 took 20 hits in the top tier hitting for about 62k each. Probably not specific enough for you though.
iteachem
09-22-2012, 01:25 PM
Probably not specific enough for you though.
I agree with that. So bill what exactly will you need from me next time to assist in your collection. I am not a data type
ABlueTree
09-22-2012, 01:27 PM
I don't know what you mean by points, but here is the only solid data I can provide. Level 162-163.
Boss number 17 - took 14 hits doing 47,100 per hit
Boss number 18 - took 17 hits doing 48,000 per hit
The Billionaire
09-22-2012, 01:31 PM
I just need the following:
Boss Level
Attack score per hit
Number of hits it took to kill the boss
Here's my log for the Chief O'Malley Event
Chief O'Malley Event
Summary: Levels Completed: 47
(Common) Service Mace = 2
(Common) Service Baton = 7
(Common) Service Pistol = 8
(Uncommon) Service Vest = 4
(Uncommon) Service Truck = 6
(Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade = 8
(Rare) Service Shotgun = 7
(Rare) Service Riot Helmet = 2
(Rare) Service Patrol Car = 3
Gold spent = zero
1. (Common) Service Pistol - 1 Hit @ 49795
2. (Common) Service Mace - 1 Hit @ 49795
3. (Common) Service Pistol - 1 Hit @ 49805
4. (Uncommon) Service Vest - 1 Hit @ 49805
5. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 1 Hit @ 49817
6. (Common) Service Baton - 1 Hit @ 49924
7. (Common) Service Pistol - 1 Hit @ 49941
8. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 1 Hit @ 49941
9. (Common) Service Mace - 1 Hit @ 49976
10. (Common) Service Pistol - 1 Hit @ 49986
11. (Common) Service Baton - 1 Hit @ 49986
12. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 1 Hit @ 50003
13. (Common) Service Pistol - 1 Hit @ 50038
14. (Common) Service Baton - 1 Hit @ 50038
15. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 1 Hit @ 50055
16. (Common) Service Baton - 1 Hit @ 50162
17. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 1 Hit @ 50179
18. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 2 Hits @ 50236
19. (Common) Service Pistol - 2 Hits @ 50343
20. (Common) Service Baton - 2 Hits @ 50343
*** Levelled Up After Beating The Boss ***
21. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 2 Hits @ 50590
22. (Common) Service Pistol - 2 Hits @ 50625
23. (Common) Service Pistol - 3 Hits @ 50625
24. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 3 Hits @ 50625
25. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 4 Hits @ 50682
26. (Rare) Service Riot Helmet - 4 Hits @ 50717
27. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 4 Hits @ 50780
*** Epic Boss Splash Page Released Although I'd Already Completed 27 Levels ***
28. (Uncommon) Service Vest - 5 Hits @ 50887
29. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 5 Hits @ 50899
30. (Rare) Service Patrol Car - 6 Hits @ 51006
31. (Rare) Service Patrol Car - 6 Hits @ 51134
32. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 6 Hits @ 51262
33. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 6 Hits @ 51319
34. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 6 Hits @ 51354
*** Levelled Up After Beating The Boss ***
35. (Rare) Service Riot Helmet - 6 Hits @ 51691
36. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 7 Hits @ 51754
37. (Common) Service Baton - 7 Hits @ 51789
38. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 7 Hits @ 51806
39. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 7 Hits @ 51913
40. (Uncommon) Service Flash Grenade - 7 Hits @ 51952
41. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 8 Hits @ 51987
42. (Rare) Service Patrol Car - 8 Hits @ 52044
43. (Uncommon) Service Truck - 8 Hits @ 52172
*** Levelled Up After Beating The Boss ***
44. (Uncommon) Service Vest - 8 Hits @ 52462
45. (Rare) Service Shotgun - 8 Hits @ 52474
46. (Common) Service Baton - 8 Hits @ 52583
47. (Uncommon) Service Vest - 9 Hits @ 52602 & The Chief's Cruiser Att 1200, Def 925
Daniel2115
09-22-2012, 01:37 PM
I'll keep track of all my hits during the next event, I'm always down to help you out billionaire. I'd give you some info for this one but I wont be able to beat anymore bosses this event.
iteachem
09-22-2012, 01:43 PM
If I get this last one as I level I will jump in. Maybe a shared google doc would make it easier?
bigflan
09-22-2012, 01:44 PM
I could collect data I'm not done the event yet but I'm too lazy too help
Lonestoner
09-22-2012, 02:18 PM
I love crunching numbers if I can, or at least sharing them, but unfortunately, I'm on android. :p
The Billionaire
09-22-2012, 02:55 PM
I'll keep track of all my hits during the next event, I'm always down to help you out billionaire. I'd give you some info for this one but I wont be able to beat anymore bosses this event.
Thanks. I'm going to release a points table before the next event so you can just check your data against mine, correct any of the figures and fill in any blanks.
Olly1
09-22-2012, 03:50 PM
Haven't taken any data on these events, B. I'll see what I can do on the next boss event, when ever that will be....!
Daniel2115
09-22-2012, 05:39 PM
Thanks. I'm going to release a points table before the next event so you can just check your data against mine, correct any of the figures and fill in any blanks.
Sounds good
kitzune
09-22-2012, 07:11 PM
Billionaire I will help.
Though I wonder about the breakpoints as from the Chief O'Maley event I think I was over level 50 when it began and got the Service level of equipment. I also recall seeing some people in the 60s with Officer level loot., If I see those again I will provide screen shots if needed.
I think two things should be found. Try and get people from every five levels to post which boss loot level they get, second number of hits and strength of hits with what level/mafia size they had at beginning of event and if there was change in mafia size/attack during the boss fight or between.
Murda
09-22-2012, 08:20 PM
I got a few responses to my thread I started for the same effort last week. And I've got some of my own data to contribute on monday from work.
I think this is the most crucial info to have for boss events and I'm surprised at the lack of attention it's getting. Understanding how many hits you'll need to get to the amount of hit points to meet the end goal basically will show how much gold you'll need, or how much attack you'll have to add at your current level to win without gold.
Murda
09-24-2012, 09:57 AM
Here is the set of data that I have so far. All are estimates due to the inability to see what the last hit actually needed to defeat the boss.
Level 162 account
Sister Snake level 14 - 289,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 15 - 405,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 16 - 475,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 17 - 651,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 18 - 847,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 19 - 1,045,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 20 - 1,309,000 hit points
Level 69 Account
Sister Snake level 13 - 77,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 14 - 92,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 15 - 100,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 16 - 101,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 17 - 120,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 18 - 141,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 19 - 161,000 hit points
Level 71 Account (reported from another user)
Sister Snake level 13 - 82,300 hit points
Sister Snake level 14 - 82,700 hit points
Sister Snake level 15 - 100,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 16 - 101,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 17 - 125,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 18 - 140,000 hit points
Sister Snake level 19 - 180,000 hit points
I'll help next time too....my level 30 account got to 40 while my L200 account got stuck on 18
Dr. Dengus
09-24-2012, 11:05 AM
Didn't keep track of the entire event, but at lvl 113 the 16th Boss (Sister Snake) had ~500,000 health
The Billionaire
09-24-2012, 11:18 AM
Thanks for the data. I'll see how it compares to my points table. The same thing happened to me, my Avon account I completed 78 levels but my billionaire account could only get to level 18.
I'm working on an "all you need to know guide" for the boss events. I hoping to publish it as soon as the next boss event gets released. I'll will have table with the points needed to beat the boss for everyone to scrutinise and hopefully we'll have some solid data at the end of it.
OffensivelyNamedGuy
09-24-2012, 06:42 PM
Bill, I've got a bit of data which you might use for all 3 previous bosses, but it's only in screen shot format so I'll have to go through them and pull out relevant details. I've gone through my Sato screen shots, only had levels 24 to 30 though, and was missing some data from level 28 but here it is. Note that I give total damage done instead of attack value as I often increased my attack mid-fight. Obviously this is +/- the attack value, level 25 for example I bet he had only a few HP left after my 14th hit (or 13th depending on how that buffer shot works). This was the first tier boss.
Level 24 - Total Hits: 13 - Damage Done: 30548
Level 25 - Total Hits: 15 - Damage Done: 37497
Level 26 - Total Hits: 16 - Damage Done: 40912
Level 27 - Total Hits: 18 - Damage Done: 46872
Level 28 - Screen Shots Missing
Level 29 - Total Hits: 20 - Damage Done: 55125
Level 30 - Total Hits: 21 - Damage Done: 60838
If I have some time I'll compile the other 2 sets.
kitzune
09-27-2012, 11:30 AM
for Sister Snake
1
rare
gun
Professional Pistol
139
103
1
rare
melee
Scale Handled Dagger
101
119
rare
vehicle
Boosted Convertible
136
106
uncommon
gun
Long-range Shotgun
60
49
2
uncommon
armor
Protective Harness
45
59
3
uncommon
gun
Lethal Automatic
58
56
6
common
melee
jagged shiv
31
29
3
common
armor
Rattlesnake Skin Jacket
20
33
7
common
vehicle
vintage Coupe
33
20
the recorded fights
Fight
cost
number of hits
damage per hit
1
150
1
2
225
1
3
300
1
4
375
1
13499
5
450
2
13532
6
525
2
13565
7
600
2
13608
8
675
3
13637
9
750
3
13666
10
825
3
13722
11
900
4
12
975
5
13775
13
1050
6
13971
14
1125
6
14051
15
1200
7
14084
16
1275
6
14102
17
1350
7
14239
18
1425
8
14283
19
1500
11
14369
used some tapjoy gold on last two by accident but also didn't record as was half asleep for last 4 or otherwise distracted.
I think that knowing how much cash would be rewarded might also help as if I know I can spend x amount but win x+15,000 that would be worth it. If I spend more cash then I get back then it depends on how good I think the possible common items are.
Also I think I started the event at 63-64 and ended around 66-67/
kitzune
10-03-2012, 09:24 AM
for boss health does anyone know what goes intot he calculation besides bracket you are in at start of the event?
Reason I ask is will having low mafia at the start then gaining more mafia you can full outfit help make the higher level kills easier? Just wondering as I don't think with the 13 hit method will get me fully to 40 kills.
The Billionaire
10-03-2012, 12:15 PM
for boss health does anyone know what goes intot he calculation besides bracket you are in at start of the event?
Reason I ask is will having low mafia at the start then gaining more mafia you can full outfit help make the higher level kills easier? Just wondering as I don't think with the 13 hit method will get me fully to 40 kills.
I don't think it takes your mafia into account so anyone who hasn't got maximum mafia is at a disadvantage.
Thanks for your data btw
Dravak
10-03-2012, 12:17 PM
look love to give data , but halfway the event they flipped the switch today ..
So data definetly changed , now on 223k Attack am at boss 33 , will wait till they hit the switch back ,
Cause this is rubbishe , the bosses are bugged with buffers everywhere ..
So even a gold hit does not bypass the buffers installed ..
The scaling from this event is insane , really insane , how they can turn a fun event into a lets just do nothing 5 days .
Sorry often the boss HP doesn't even move cause of bugs , yes last hit can cost me 50 gold just cause of bugs.
Sorry this is EPIC fail , till they flip back the switch , it is not really relevant data .
Since some people have the switch on , others have the switch off .
kitzune
10-03-2012, 12:39 PM
Eddie Sato results
01 - com - Quick Sports Car - 28/17
02 - com - Quick Sports Car
03 - com - sturdy SMG - 25/24
04 - com - Quick Sports Car
05 - 300 - com - sturdy SMG
06 - 350 - Uncom - efficient OC14 Rifle - 55/35
07 - 400 - com - Quick Sports Car- rare? was a lie -
end day 1
08 - 450 - com - sturdy SMG
09 - 500 - com - Quick Sports Car-
10 - 550 - com - sturdy nunchuks - 17/32
end day 2
11 - 600 - com - Quick Sports Car-
12 - 650 - Rare - Sturdy Samurai Armor - 60/158
13 - 700 - com - sturdy nunchuks
totals
rare - Savage Gatling gun - 100/118 -
rare - Capable Humvee - 120/78 -
Rare - Sturdy Samurai Armor - 60/158 - 1
Uncom - Rugged Ops Mask - 25/71 -
Uncom - Rugged Samurai Mask - 42/58 -
Uncom - efficient OC14 Rifle - 55/35 - 1
com - sturdy SMG - 25/24 - 3
com - Quick Sports Car - 28/17 - 6
com - sturdy nunchuks - 17/32 - 2
kitzune
10-03-2012, 12:45 PM
O'Maley Loot
fight - cost - item
1 - 100 - service patrol car 128/90
2 - 150 - Service Mace 15/34
3 - 200 - Service Baton
4 - 250 - service pistol 1 hit
5 - 300 - service pistol 2 hit
6 - 350 - service pistol 2 hit
7 - 400 - service pistol 2 hit
8 - 450 - Service Baton 3 hit
9 - 500 - Service Mace
10 - 550 - Service Mace
11 - 600 - Service Baton - 4 hits
12 - 650 - Service Baton - 5790 wih cash
13 - 700 - service shotgun - 5 hits
14 - 750 - Service Baton - (3/20 on O'Maley goal)
15 - 800 - service flash grenade - 5975 7 hits
16 - 850 - Service Mace 8 hit 6094
17 - 900 - service pistol 9 hit
18 - 950 - service vest
19 - 1000 - service vest - 6123 damage 5+
20 - 1050 - service pistol
21 - 1100 - service riot helmet
22 - 1150 - Service Mace - 13 hits with level reset
23 - 1200 - Service Flash Grenade - rifle 3/20; cruiser 12/20
24 - 1250 - Service Mace
25 - 1300 - Service Flash Grenade
26 - 1350 - Service Mace
27 - 1400 - Service Truck
28 - 1450 - service patrol car
29 - 1500 - Service Baton
30 - 1550 - Service pistol
prizes
rare (4)
gun - Service shotgun - 135/83 - 1
armor - Service Riot Helm - 75/123 - 1
vehicle - service patrol car 128/90 - 2
uncommon (5)
armor - service vest - 24/72 - 2
vehicle - service truck - 57/34 - 1
explosive - service flash grenade - 35/65 - 3
common (19)
melee - Service Mace 15/34 - 6
melee - Service Baton 22/23 - 6
gun - Service Pistol 26/23 - 7
I see so far on this list (From highest to lowest)
tier 5 - Captain's - 100+?
tier 4 - Officer's - seen on level 70
tier 3 - Deputy's
tier 2 - Service ??-50? (Started at level 48-49 from what I recall)
tier 1 - Rookie 1-??
given this we might need to re-examine this breakdown
So we've had a few boss events now and i have to say i am throughly enjoying them, thanks Gree.
I'm currently in the process of working out all the ins and outs of these boss events. Thanks to some great work from White Frog he has figured out the different tiers and they are as follows:
Tier 1 - Levels 1 to 25
Tier 2 - Levels 26 to 50
Tier 3 - Levels 51 to 75
Tier 4 - Levels 76 to 100
Tier 5 - Levels 101 to 200
Also has anyone found the pattern for the cash rewarded for each boss kill level? I saw Billionaire had the experience...
kitzune
10-04-2012, 05:43 PM
Jimmy the Gooch
23 kills and done
2 rare classic mustang
2 rare dangerous dagger
1 rare petrol flamethrower
1 uncommon dyed leather jacket
1 uncommon crimson knucks
1 uncommon deadly automatic
6 common bloody baseball bat
8 common concealed shotguns
1 common steel toed combat boots
rares 5/23 = 21.7%
uncommon 3/23 = 13.1%
common 15/23 = 65.2%
the kill data
Fight
cost
number of hits
attack type
damage per hit
notes
1
150
1
free
10454
classic mustang
2
225
1
free
10606
bloody baseball bat
3
300
1
free
10626
Concealed Shotgun
4
375
2
free
10644
classic mustang
5
450
2
free
10708
Concealed Shotgun
6
525
2
cash
16010
Concealed Shotgun
7
600
2
cash
16035
Dangerous Dagger
8
675
2
cash
16155
Steel Toed Combat Boots
9
750
3
cash
16169
Concealed Shotgun
10
825
3
cash
16184
Concealed Shotgun
11
900
4
cash
16219
bloody baseball bat
12
975
5
cash
16257
Petrol Flame Thrower
13
1050
5
cash
16363
bloody baseball bat
14
1125
5
cash
bloody baseball bat
15
1200
6
cash
16418
Concealed Shotgun
16
1275
7
cash
16444
Concealed Shotgun
17
1350
7
cash
16914
Deadly Automatic
18
1425
9
cash
18822
added mafia
bloody baseball bat
19
1500
9
cash
19036
crimson knucks
20
1575
10
cash
19148
Dyed Leather Jacket
21
1650
11
cash
19700
added mafia
bloody baseball bat
22
1725
12
cash
20032
Dangerous Dagger
23
1800
13
cash
20252
added mafia
Concealed Shotgun
started at 71 and finished at 72 if that makes any difference also for the data.
kitzune
10-05-2012, 07:51 AM
Anyone else have damage done data for Jimmy the gooch or what items were shown to their character(s) and what level they were at beginning of the event?
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