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Thief
09-20-2012, 09:30 AM
This Discussion was Prompted by Manbeast and other players who have recently crossed over to level 101 and Higher.

I was looking at trying to make the Boss Event more Engaging for all players not to make the event easy to beat without gold.

I broke down Level Brackets to match the Loot Brackets.

The Base Number i used was Level 75 @390,000 which is right around where i am with my cash hit doing 30k damage and i can just barely beat Boss 20.

From there i dropped level 50 25% and and for Level 50 i Dropped it 50%

To go to 100 i increased by 50% and worked out that @level 200 with 100k Stats a player should be able to make it to level 20. Therefore i increased the number of Bosses by 10 since the gaps were 50 levels above level 100. I also think that each boss increases by 9% (yes it will still be hard to get TOP Prize..but Gree needs to introduce intermediate prizes people will still have incentive to go X far.)

lvl 25 Boss 20: 195,000 Defense (Prize @ 20)
Level 50 Boss: 20 292,500 Defense (Prize @ 25)~~~450,000?
Level 75 Boss: 20 390,000 Defense (Prize @ 30)~~~923,000?
Level 100 Boss 20: 585,000 Defense (Prize @ 35)~~~2,130,000?
Level 150 Boss 20: 877,500 Defense (Prize @ 45)~~~7,500,000?
Level 200 Boss 20: 1,316,250 Defense (Prize @55) ~~~11,350,000?

**All with 13 Cash Hits
Level 25 with 15,000 attack beats 20 and Wins the Special Unit
Level 50 with 20,000 attack beats 20.~~~
Level 75 with 30,000 attack beats20.~~~
Level 100 with 45,000 attack beats 20.~~~
Level 150 with 67,500 attack beats 20.~~~
Level 200 with 101,250 attack beats 20.~~~

*Note all calculations were done in my head or cellphone if you see anything wrong
This is also a repost

Please Post any Feedback on what you guys think Especially those of you above level 100 as this was one of the primary reasons for playing with the numbers. Basically if your above level 100 right now and your making it to boss 6-7 you would now make it to boss 20.

Also Note that the Final Bosses for Level 150 and 200 Might be a Little too hard to beat but the numbers would need to be played with to determine what is fair.

Fun
09-20-2012, 09:34 AM
Sounds good to me I hate the bosses 101+ realy would love to see this happen!

Lucky4u
09-20-2012, 09:36 AM
Very nice idea!hope GREE will listen...make the game enjoyable by all

Thief
09-20-2012, 09:47 AM
The Other Suggestion would To simply Make all of the Bosses the Same Strenth for everyone but Depending on what level an individual is they would have to beat X amount of more bosses.

This would also work but the numbers would become Very Skewed i noticed when i plotted them and the strenth of the bosses after level 20 would need to grow but a higher number than 13%

War Priest
09-20-2012, 11:26 AM
Make people beat all 50 bosses for the unit that way it costs 15,000 gold for it. That's what GREE is probably thinking anyways.

Baraka
09-20-2012, 01:10 PM
Sounds really good. Chances of Gree doing it, slim what WP says is more likely. God damn GREEd

Bronson
09-20-2012, 02:09 PM
To help us guys out they should just add an extra 5 bosses for no reason.

EDIT - oops they already did that

imscrewed?
09-20-2012, 02:51 PM
:D Bronson, don't give GreeD any ideas. They will probably increase the Boss Event to 40 if they have a bad quarter.

Baraka
09-20-2012, 02:56 PM
:D Bronson, don't give GreeD any ideas. They will probably increase the Boss Event to 40 if they have a bad quarter.I don't think GREEd have bad quarters with the money we give them lol.

Agent Orange
09-20-2012, 03:34 PM
I guess the problem is as soon as a free player sees the leader board they are going to say screw this. I know I do but I also don't care at this point. I just pick off the three or four bosses I can get for free and then leave it at that.

Granted a paying player is also going to look at the leader board and realize it is hopeless as well and that is where Gree'd is really going to loose out.

I think the entire event scheme needs an overhaul. Legit players are sitting here wondering if they are being hosed because hackers seem to be able to walk in and rob them.

Other players are spending thousands of dollars to get to the top. The entire thing seems screwy if you ask me. Granted that would be the journalist in me red flagging this entire mess.

mickymacirl
09-20-2012, 03:43 PM
Same as orange pretty much, takes A LOT of gold for a not so worth it prize, since it's all on percentages that do not favor a free player.

Thief
09-21-2012, 02:03 PM
@Agent Orange. I hear you i don't participate in the auction events at all as they provide me with nothing but maybe a unit that may or may not make it into my Army.

However with the boss Battles i do get enjoyment of at least trying to make it to beat 20 Bosses and i think most players would get some enjoyment out of that. It fundamentally doesn't change the ease of getting the final prize which wasn't my goal (although there is no reason we can't petition for that as well). I just assumed that if everyone even free players have a chance to at least participate in the event then it would be Beneficial.

Note the one thing that i mentioned that does need to get incorpated is an intermediate prize for Beating Boss 20? That is where the incentive is to participate.

@Mickymacirl: I agree it doesn't favor free players...but none of the game does to be honest. I'm a free player so i feel your pain im just trying to show gree that they can make the event fun for all even if we don't make it all the way.

Tctiger
09-21-2012, 05:58 PM
I agree it should not go that hard over level 100 same as old box events were good for all players , if they don't sort boss event out over 100 I will have no events to play soon but I guess that's what they want . it's all about the money now at the games expense it seems. They seem to forget most players are free or light gold ,lose the average players and you have glitches v heavy gold . I think the priority with gree is money oh and poetry ect ,where as funzio seemed more in to game development . Where is the fun in buying your way to the top anyway I don't get i, playing for free is a challenge and with that comes satisfaction .

stickjohnsonaah
09-21-2012, 06:52 PM
Any idea when the boss events will reach Android. If like to try that instead of unlocking hazmat bins again

MonkeyPuppy2012
09-22-2012, 08:18 PM
Why are all of the winnable prizes male?

Joaquim Jose
09-23-2012, 04:35 PM
Why are all of the winnable prizes male?

Because this game is sexist. The next boss will probably be a female since the current CC boss is a female.