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thesyllable (er)
09-19-2012, 01:45 PM
You know the drill!

http://i.imgur.com/vVHZH.png

http://i.imgur.com/WcTBs.png

Ph4ntom Stranger
09-19-2012, 01:54 PM
Will this Boss event be on Android as well?

Thief
09-19-2012, 01:59 PM
When are the boss Events in MW going to start offering intermediate Prizes like they do in KA?

Juaco
09-19-2012, 02:06 PM
Will this Boss event be on Android as well?

Yes it will not.

Fl@sh
09-19-2012, 02:09 PM
Hey er, the loot varies according to level. I have this loot for level 140: http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii520/natch82/E41F8A50-E543-4208-836A-2C6D58779108-229-0000000FD6246E0A_zpsac850d44.jpg

Vballmadam
09-19-2012, 02:37 PM
I still cannot initiate the boss!

manbeast
09-19-2012, 04:02 PM
Had to restart mw 3 times to get the pop up. Then I did 5 fights and nothing. Restarted again and did 3 more fights and it initiated.

Blackstone
09-19-2012, 04:15 PM
Had to restart mw 3 times to get the pop up. Then I did 5 fights and nothing. Restarted again and did 3 more fights and it initiated.

I see you are level 105. How far can you make it in these Boss events? I passed level 100 last time and can only reach boss 10 or so.

manbeast
09-19-2012, 04:30 PM
I see you are level 105. How far can you make it in these Boss events? I passed level 100 last time and can only reach boss 10 or so.

last boss i made it to 8 or 9. this one seems harder. i may only make it to boss 6 lol. before lvl 100 i was making it to lvl 21-25

i actually sent a ticket in on this today. i tried telling them they should reverse it. make it impossible for lower level players and easier for high level players. THAT would encourage people to level up.

the current system is just encouraging people to abandon their high level account and start and new one

Thief
09-19-2012, 04:43 PM
last boss i made it to 8 or 9. this one seems harder. i may only make it to boss 6 lol. before lvl 100 i was making it to lvl 21-25

i actually sent a ticket in on this today. i tried telling them they should reverse it. make it impossible for lower level players and easier for high level players. THAT would encourage people to level up.

the current system is just encouraging people to abandon their high level account and start and new one

I was actually thinking about it the other day and i came to the conclusion that what they should be doing is is not making the boss harder by level (well not exponentially harder by level) but to simply increase the number of bosses one has to defeat.

Structure it the same way you structure the Loot. (With 6 Levels?)

Level 1-25 has to beat 20 Bosses
Level 26-50 has to beat 25 Bosses
Level 51-75 has to beat 30 Bosses
Level 76-100 has to beat 35 Bosses
Level 101-150 has to beat 40 Bosses
Level 151-200 has to beat 45 Bosses

manbeast
09-19-2012, 05:17 PM
I was actually thinking about it the other day and i came to the conclusion that what they should be doing is is not making the boss harder by level (well not exponentially harder by level) but to simply increase the number of bosses one has to defeat.

Structure it the same way you structure the Loot. (With 6 Levels?)

Level 1-25 has to beat 20 Bosses
Level 26-50 has to beat 25 Bosses
Level 51-75 has to beat 30 Bosses
Level 76-100 has to beat 35 Bosses
Level 101-150 has to beat 40 Bosses
Level 151-200 has to beat 45 Bosses

So a lvl 1 and a lvl 200 get the exact same bosses, but the higher level has to beat more of them to get the grand prize. What an elegant solution. I love it

Ph4ntom Stranger
09-19-2012, 06:10 PM
Come on Gree, all devices should have the same content and events. So where's the Boss events for Android players!!??

vip3r
09-19-2012, 06:10 PM
I have not done any boss fights ever and i have been playing for a couple months now. what do i have to do to fight one?

vip3r
09-19-2012, 06:11 PM
i feel the same way.

Come on Gree, all devices should have the same content and events. So where's the Boss events for Android players!!??

Ph4ntom Stranger
09-19-2012, 06:52 PM
I have not done any boss fights ever and i have been playing for a couple months now. what do i have to do to fight one?

When the game loads the splash screen above should pop up, then you trigger the event by beating one of the bosses in any of the maps. However gree has not made these events available on android. The first event that both iOS and android participated together was the Hazmat leaderboard event from last week.

Skyser30518
09-19-2012, 06:59 PM
This definitely puts android players at a HUGE disadvantage. At least give us something. Other players are receiving many gold units and we get nothing except for an auction event where we are lucky if we get 2 units.

Thief
09-19-2012, 07:10 PM
So a lvl 1 and a lvl 200 get the exact same bosses, but the higher level has to beat more of them to get the grand prize. What an elegant solution. I love it

Yea i mean Gree might have to look closer at the numbers. Then share those exact numbers with the players so we understand how it works.

Maybe they need to double starting health for level 1 as well for each bracket but even this would be MUCH better than players who cross the lvl 100 mark.

Thief
09-19-2012, 07:42 PM
Quick Numbers:

lvl 25 Boss 20: 97,500 Defense (Prize @ 20)
Level 50 Boss: 20 195,000 Defense (Prize @ 25)
Level 75 Boss: 20 390,000 Defense (Prize @ 30)
Level 100 Boss 20: 780,000 Defense (Prize @ 35)
Level 150 Boss 20: 1,560,000 Defense (Prize @ 40)
Level 200 Boss 20: 3,120,000 Defense (Prize @45)

What do you guys think? Level 200 Might end up being high...but still probably much better than it is now.

Blackstone
09-19-2012, 08:26 PM
Whatever they do something needs to be done for players level 100 and above. The game is not fun anymore when the boss events are so difficult at that level.

I also sent a ticket stating that I am a lot more likely to purchase gold to defeat 5 - 7 bosses than 25+. Got a reply thanking me for my input lol.

manbeast
09-19-2012, 09:16 PM
Thief- how do those numbers compare to the current bosses??

I like my original interpretation of your idea better. Bosses are the same exact strength for everyone at every level, high level players just have to make it through more bosses. Honestly my stats have hardly changed at all since level 90. There's not a lot of room for improvement until I unlock the 800 valor ship.

Edit- looked at the numbers some more. Still a strong prejudice against high level players. I don't believe low level players should have any advantage at all in boss events. Boss events should benefit whoever has the highest stats and level shouldn't be a part of it. If you make the bosses more difficult with level then it's always going to be easier for low level players

Gambit12
09-19-2012, 09:24 PM
Thief- how do those numbers compare to the current bosses??

I like my original interpretation of your idea better. Bosses are the same exact strength for everyone at every level, high level players just have to make it through more bosses. Honestly my stats have hardly changed at all since level 90. There's not a lot of room for improvement until I unlock the 800 valor ship.

Edit- looked at the numbers some more. Still a strong prejudice against high level players. I don't believe low level players should have any advantage at all in boss events. Boss events should benefit whoever has the highest stats and level shouldn't be a part of it. If you make the bosses more difficult with level then it's always going to be easier for low level players

Are you going all the way on this epic boss manbeast..??

manbeast
09-19-2012, 09:52 PM
Are you going all the way on this epic boss manbeast..??

No way lol. I probably won't make it to boss 8. If I could make it to boss 24 or 25 for free I'd spend gold to win for sure

Gambit12
09-19-2012, 09:56 PM
No way lol. I probably won't make it to boss 8. If I could make it to boss 24 or 25 for free I'd spend gold to win for sure


What if the grand prize is another ship again, you will get it..??

Thief
09-19-2012, 10:25 PM
@ManBeast

To be honest i'm not 100% sure as i don't have very good information i'm simply playing with some numbers to see what would be realistic. My goal isn't really to make it easier to get the top prize but to get players engaged in the event.

The Base Number i used was Level 75 @390,000 which is right around where i am at since my cash hit does 30k damage and i can beat boss 20.
From there i dropped level 50 in half and again for 25.

To go to 100 i doubled it but came to a new conclusion that i wanted someone @level 200 with 100k Stats to make it to level 20. Therefore i increased the number of Bosses by 10 since the gaps were 50 levels above level 100. I also think that each boss increases by 9% (yes it will still be hard to get TOP Prize..but with intermediate prizes people will still have incentive to go X far.)

lvl 25 Boss 20: 195,000 Defense (Prize @ 20)
Level 50 Boss: 20 292,500 Defense (Prize @ 25)~~~450,000?
Level 75 Boss: 20 390,000 Defense (Prize @ 30)~~~923,000?
Level 100 Boss 20: 585,000 Defense (Prize @ 35)~~~2,130,000?
Level 150 Boss 20: 877,500 Defense (Prize @ 45)~~~7,500,000?
Level 200 Boss 20: 1,316,250 Defense (Prize @55) ~~~11,350,000?

**All with 13 Cash Hits
Level 25 with 15,000 attack gets to 20 and Wins the Special Unit
Level 50 with 20,000 attack get to 20.~~~
Level 75 with 30,000 attack get to 20.~~~
Level 100 with 45,000 attack get to 20.~~~
Level 150 with 67,500 attack get to 20.~~~
Level 200 with 101,250 attack get to 20.~~~

*Note all calculations were done in my head or cellphone if you see anything wrong.

Thief
09-19-2012, 10:33 PM
Edit- looked at the numbers some more. Still a strong prejudice against high level players. I don't believe low level players should have any advantage at all in boss events. Boss events should benefit whoever has the highest stats and level shouldn't be a part of it. If you make the bosses more difficult with level then it's always going to be easier for low level players

Take a look at the new numbers. I made the event more balanced to get further in the event and actually if anything reaching the Speical Unit at the End game is near impossible for a free player now. A level 25 would need 250 Units Averaging 30 attack each.

It would also still make it so FERR would be spending Gold to get the Final Item (which i know Gree will always want to make sure their top players are still paying to play)

Thief
09-19-2012, 10:43 PM
Also i have nothing against Just making it standard Tiered. That would be the simplist approach i was just trying to make it "Fair" for all Level of Players.

Also keep in mind that Under level 25 Players would level 2-3 Times just from a boss event. Which means they maybe get 2 or 3 Bosses before moving to the next tier.

The numbers of course can always use some adjustment...just trying to get everyone to play the Boss event and get to 20+ if your an active player.

Gambit12
09-19-2012, 11:20 PM
You know the drill!

http://i.imgur.com/vVHZH.png

http://i.imgur.com/WcTBs.png


I think you need this 3rd picture for the grandprize thesyllabler...

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/Swyn1221/0F0C9F2D-1B46-4C2A-8B64-288699E97808-9542-000006728D289217_zps4c95dc20.jpg

cheiz
09-20-2012, 03:22 AM
hmmm, still no splash screen for me...
Event only shows in my goals, it will not activate

Jhoemel
09-20-2012, 03:49 AM
It activate in mine even without the splash screen cheiz

Captain Orgazmooo
09-20-2012, 04:12 AM
Good afternoon.
I have a problem, prompt please.
I am 112 lvl, my attack of an order 52к +, BUT I can't pass further the 6th boss, it is impossible - constantly there is no time and POWER to kill them quicker.
Tell please - that I do not so? What parameter needs to be pumped over for more best attack?
For my English excuse, I use the translator.
Hello from Russia =)

Jhoemel
09-20-2012, 04:15 AM
Good afternoon.
I have a problem, prompt please.
I am 112 lvl, my attack of an order 52к +, BUT I can't pass further the 6th boss, it is impossible - constantly there is no time and POWER to kill them quicker.
Tell please - that I do not so? What parameter needs to be pumped over for more best attack?
For my English excuse, I use the translator.
Hello from Russia =)

Thats natural man, i also have that much of attack and cant beat that boss too. Boss are stronger after level 100

Captain Orgazmooo
09-20-2012, 04:23 AM
Thats natural man, i also have that much of attack and cant beat that boss too. Boss are stronger after level 100

And how against it to fight? Donat not an exit, not really we are doomed to defeat only because we do not invest money?
the exit should be.

Gambit12
09-20-2012, 06:37 AM
Boss event is so ridiculous..!! C'mon GREE make it fair for us higher level...Can you guys make the boss event the same difficulty level as for lower & higher level...It's really not fair for us higher level..!!

Jhoemel
09-20-2012, 06:39 AM
Yeah totally right gambit, i can only beat 4 bosses now

Vballmadam
09-20-2012, 10:45 AM
Very hard and wondering if we can beat 35 if we have to take so many hits and time between bosses to regenerate health! Pretty soon we won't be able to many events because it will be to costly.

I am level 138, will level up very soon and have raised my raw stats over 107,000. Don't know how far I'll get this time.

Also, I thought a cash hit was the equivalent of your raw attack. Is this correct?

Miner
09-20-2012, 11:40 AM
Very hard and wondering if we can beat 35 if we have to take so many hits and time between bosses to regenerate health! Pretty soon we won't be able to many events because it will be to costly.

I am level 138, will level up very soon and have raised my raw stats over 107,000. Don't know how far I'll get this time.

Also, I thought a cash hit was the equivalent of your raw attack. Is this correct?

I haven't figured this out 100%. My cash attack is slightly LESS than my raw attack. I know attack skill points also have a very slight impact. According to CCM, the assault bear boost counts, but I still think this is not the case. There's no way my cash attack would be less than my raw attack in that case.

dthfrmabv
09-20-2012, 11:50 AM
I haven't figured this out 100%. My cash attack is slightly LESS than my raw attack. I know attack skill points also have a very slight impact. According to CCM, the assault bear boost counts, but I still think this is not the case. There's no way my cash attack would be less than my raw attack in that case.

@miner - I thought that skills points does not affect your attack on boss events.

@Vball - I think HK has some calculation on boss strength and cash attack. I am not sure about higher levels though but my level 90 account has a lower cash vs my raw attack.

Miner
09-20-2012, 12:01 PM
@miner - I thought that skills points does not affect your attack on boss events.

@Vball - I think HK has some calculation on boss strength and cash attack. I am not sure about higher levels though but my level 90 account has a lower cash vs my raw attack.

They do affect your attack on boss events. Not by much though. About 10-12 levels ago, I leveled up in the middle of a boss, put all 3 skill points on attack and then hit the boss again. My damage went up by a measly 14 points. No units purchased, no allies added. The only thing that changed was the additional skill points.

Thief
09-20-2012, 12:21 PM
They do affect your attack on boss events. Not by much though. About 10-12 levels ago, I leveled up in the middle of a boss, put all 3 skill points on attack and then hit the boss again. My damage went up by a measly 14 points. No units purchased, no allies added. The only thing that changed was the additional skill points.

I too can Confirm that Skill Points do Contribute to the boss.

Whats confusing is that Sometimes my Cash attack is higher than my Boosted Attack and Sometimes it's just under my Raw Attack? Making it very difficult to pin anything down.

Right now for example i do almost 800 more damage with a cash attack then my profile shows my attack is at? I only have 29 poinnts in attack too.

Vballmadam
09-20-2012, 01:01 PM
My cash hit is over 10,000 less than my raw attack this boss. Same level. Last event it was a littlt less.

mxz
09-20-2012, 02:34 PM
They may have changed something to not allow campers to compete. My level 8 cannot trigger a boss with any sort of action (HL player can, though). Even tried waiting 20 minutes to see if it was just delayed. Sent in a ticket, hoping they get back to me before the event's over.

Vballmadam
09-20-2012, 03:18 PM
They may have changed something to not allow campers to compete. My level 8 cannot trigger a boss with any sort of action (HL player can, though). Even tried waiting 20 minutes to see if it was just delayed. Sent in a ticket, hoping they get back to me before the event's over.

I believe you have to be level 10 to do events.

mxz
09-20-2012, 04:08 PM
I believe you have to be level 10 to do events.Box events, yes. Boss events were previously open to all levels.

cheiz
09-21-2012, 03:58 AM
They may have changed something to not allow campers to compete. My level 8 cannot trigger a boss with any sort of action (HL player can, though). Even tried waiting 20 minutes to see if it was just delayed. Sent in a ticket, hoping they get back to me before the event's over.

mxz, it took a lot of hits on both my accounts to trigger the event. I had given up for my LLP, but it did trigger after all.

LeBarticus
09-21-2012, 08:31 PM
What's the prize unit? Level 76

GUID
09-22-2012, 06:37 AM
How much damage can take boss on each level of Boss???

my damage in fight with Boss is 4925.
I can`t bit the Boss-lvl 6.

I can hit 13 times per round (2 hours).

My totaldamage per round cann`t be more then 4925*13=64025

without money of couse!

I would like to know, HOW MUCH damage can take The Boss lvl 6 befor his deaf??


Could anyone answer to me???

Nce007
09-22-2012, 02:08 PM
I had to put my two cents in on this thread too, I totally agree with what everyone is saying about these boss events they are unbalanced for instance I'm level 165 & two events ago on beat the boss I managed to get to level 17 with ease only using in game cash, now the last two beat the boss events the one before this new one I only managed to get to level 7 & now this latest beat the boss I can not get past level 6 it's like it wants me to purchase gold to carry on now imagine how much that would cost to reach level 35 & the big boss, come on Gree I think you need to make these beat the boss events more balanced & fair for everyone who plays, I know your there to make money but come on to use gold from level 6 to level 35 is a joke & unfair, please ask the team to look into this problem thank you.

Fivestars02
09-22-2012, 02:09 PM
It is very hard, without gold it's impossible to win. Got
Lucky with rare price but spent a lot of money

Fivestars02
09-22-2012, 02:11 PM
It is very hard, without gold it's impossible to win. Got
Lucky with rare price but spent a lot of money

Giedrybe
09-23-2012, 03:39 AM
GUID, boss health/strength depends on your level as well.

Say you are level 80lvl and do only 5k damage and if you are level 15 doing 5k damage - you will have totally different story. And success as well.

I can confirm that skill points have affect to damage made to boss. Does it make impact on its health - cannot tell you.
Regarding cash attack value - last three event it was 94% till 98% of my boosted attack. This event for no particular reason it is 101,4% of my boosted attack.