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Murda
09-18-2012, 09:08 AM
I was thinking back to the days when the forum made useful contributions, and decided to make an attempt to collectively understand the boss events a little more clearly.

I started tracking my sister snake at level 14. I'm trying to get an understanding of the strength of the bosses by game level and the increase in boss strength by boss level.

I am level 161.

Sister Snake level 14 took 4 hits at 64,903 and the 5th and final hit is estimated to be about 30,000 (give or take 10k, because the game doesn't tell you exactly what you used, only what your total attack is)
So I'm estimating Sister snake level 14 at my current level to take 284,612 cumulative attack points to defeat.

I'm going to track my progress like this......

Level 161

Sister Snake Level 14 = ~284,612
Sister Snake Level 15 = ~ TBD
Sister Snake Level 16 = ~ TBD

If any of you stathead out there would like to join in and track this as well, we may be able to come up with some models to use as guidelines for how strong you need to be at various levels to beat the bosses.

Please join in and track your wins and attack needed in this thread. (even if you are starting to track late like me, any data is good data)

mxz
09-18-2012, 11:11 AM
MW folks did some deep analysis on the formula before CC even got boss events. Can't find the thread right now but maybe someone can dig that up.

They had a similar approach - estimating HPs. Of course there were like 3-4 ways people did that, but I think they came up with something worth reading for people who care about these.

Murda
09-18-2012, 11:25 AM
Level 161

Sister Snake Level 14 = ~ 285,000 Hit points used (~4 1/2 hits), +75xp
Sister Snake Level 15 = ~ 405,000 Hit points used (~6 1/4 hits), +80xp
Sister Snake Level 16 = ~ 476,000 Hit points used (~7 1/4 hits), +85xp
Sister Snake Level 17 = ~ 651,400 Hit points used (10 hits), +90xp
Sister Snake Level 18 = ~ 847,000 Hit points used (13 hits), +95xp
Sister Snake Level 19 = TBD
Sister Snake Level 20 = TBD

Level 18 and I've used all my free 13 hits.....WTF???

tomorrow I'll use a level up for 19 but with no reward for 20 I doubt I'm gonna spend any gold to go further than that cause 40 is not gonna happen.

Murda
09-18-2012, 03:13 PM
Nobody else is interested in tracking this? I'm more of a nerd than I thought I was.

MerlinBlack
09-18-2012, 03:29 PM
I'll start posting them next hit. Finished 27 so far. Will do one or two this evening.

The Billionaire
09-18-2012, 03:57 PM
I've been tracking all my boss events on both accounts so I'll come up with some stats after this event.

617Pats
09-18-2012, 04:50 PM
I have been tracking for awhile as well. Like you said the final hit does cause some innacurracy due to it always being larger. Here is my estimate based off of Chief OMalley last event. Note I was level 131-133 during it. Not really sure the beginning levels either because 1 free hit killed him. Anyway here is what I got.

20,000-level 1
25,000-level 2
30,000-level 3
35,000-level 4
40,000-level 5
60,000-level 6
75,000-level 7
100,000-level 8
125,000-level 9
150,000-level 10
175,000-level 11
200,000-level 12
250,000-level 13
300,000-level 14
400,000-level 15
500,000-level 16
650,000-level 17
800,000-level 18

617Pats
09-18-2012, 08:30 PM
level 5 on this boss was 50,000 damage

Murda
09-18-2012, 10:04 PM
Updated my tracking post, but level 18 took me all 13 free tries. These bosses get hard quickly.

The Billionaire
09-18-2012, 10:46 PM
They do get very hard very quickly at the higher levels

jmeijer
09-18-2012, 10:52 PM
I have been tracking for awhile as well. Like you said the final hit does cause some innacurracy due to it always being larger. Here is my estimate based off of Chief OMalley last event. Note I was level 131-133 during it. Not really sure the beginning levels either because 1 free hit killed him. Anyway here is what I got.

20,000-level 1
25,000-level 2
30,000-level 3
35,000-level 4
40,000-level 5
60,000-level 6
75,000-level 7
100,000-level 8
125,000-level 9
150,000-level 10
175,000-level 11
200,000-level 12
250,000-level 13
300,000-level 14
400,000-level 15
500,000-level 16
650,000-level 17
800,000-level 18I think that this is about right for this level. I'm at lvl 130 right now.. with 32,500 attack score (294 mafia members). Still in a doubt about accepting all my requests..

Ballerado
09-18-2012, 11:50 PM
I'm charting damage i did
Game at Level 71

1. 15712
2. 15745
3. 15774
4. 15803
5. 15845
6. 15863x2
7. 15896x2
8. 16033x2
9. 16169x3
10. 16202x3
11. 16231x4
12. 16267x4
13. 16443x3 16492x2
14. 16541x5
15. 16696x5 16715x1
16. 16744x5 17282x1 (during recovery time I was awarded Marauder Cutlass)
17. 17381x7 free hitx1
18. 17517x8
19. 17549x9 11756x1 free
20. 17657x11/harness
21. 17710x12/coupe
22. 17781x14/coupe
23. 17815x16/shotgun
24. 17875x5 17913x13/shiv (leveled up, 2 med paks)
25. 17948x6 18576x14/harness (I dumped like 1.6 mil on anthrax) (3 med paks)

Im trying to decide how far to go. it feels like its gonna start getting expensive.

Murda
09-19-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm charting damage i did
Game at Level 71

1. 15712
2. 15745
3. 15774
4. 15803
5. 15845
6. 15863x2
7. 15896x2
8. 16033x2
9. 16169x3
10. 16202x3
11. 16231x4
12. 16267x4
13. 16443x3 16492x2
14. 16541x5
15. 16696x5 16715x1
16. 16744x5 17282x1 (during recovery time I was awarded Marauder Cutlass)
17. 17381x7 free hitx1
18. 17517x8
19. 17549x9 11756x1 free

Interesting. Level 71 is a lot lower than I expected compared to 131 as 617pats reported and what I'm seeing at 161.

Level 71 - Boss #18 = 140,000
Level 131- Boss #18 = 800,000
Level 161- Boss #18 = between 780,000 and 840,000

I'd love to see more data on different people's level to see where the difficulty level is changing.

TZora
09-19-2012, 09:37 AM
is this boss event .. sister snake .. mobble gobble thing for ios players? cuz i'm on android and have never seen any of that stuff in the game :confused:

Ballerado
09-19-2012, 03:02 PM
is this boss event .. sister snake .. mobble gobble thing for ios players? cuz i'm on android and have never seen any of that stuff in the game :confused:Yeah ios only. sorry cause its fun. you will get it eventually.