New Boss Event - defeat the Ettin King

[Funkey monkey]

They raised number of defeats for the first level of boss from 15 to 20. Defeat the Ettin King 20 times and a Bloodfang Bear will join your army.

I just received the splash screen too. Beat the boss 50x and receive the Ettin Champion 1105/1022 you have 6 day and 20 hours and 33 min.

Beat the Boss Attack Timeline
For those of you new to a boss event here's the attack timelines to get the 13 free hits.

Hit 3x
Wait one minute
Hit 2x
Wait 26 minutes
Hit 2x
Repeat every 26 minutes

If you get off schedule: Wait 26 minutes before giving him 2 hits

Full recovery time: 1 hr, 40 minutes

[spectra]

I got it on my quest and killed #1
counters shows 1/20
the down side is that they do not show the unit you could win and their stats, so players can determine if it is worth it to spend GEMS

[Chups]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Hobtuse]

it's on time as usual as predicted by most
good luck to the high level players as usual!!
and enjoy the boss event for the rest :)

my aim will be to clear boss #10

[The_Red]

cant wait to get to 8 and stop... whee!

[Hobtuse]

cant wait to get to 8 and stop... whee!
They seem to have lowered the stats of the commons?
Good or bad news depending on how you see it. I do see it as good news. Somewhat.

Commons
Enraged Brute: 23/29
Menacing Gnoll: 26/21
Bloodthirsty Bat: 20/15
Nice to know none will make it into my army.

Uncommons:
Troll Berserker 47/50
Scourge Wolf 57/35
Goblin Warmonger 67/34

Rares
Ogre Executioner 115/111
Goblin Chieftain 125/117
Black Venom Spider 125/84

I have to say the rares are not too appealing aesthetically-wise .. No Succubus or Spellweaver like the last event, or the freebie Hydra for low level players.

But still, thanks for the event :) Much appreciated!

2 commons out of 2 so far!

[spectra]

I am already on #3 and for the looks of it at 98k per gold hit I will only be able to make it to #14 using all 13 hits
I am not gona waiste my GEMS to get to 20 (which could be about 300 gems) for a unit that probably has 175/225 A/D just like the lame Hydra in the prior event

good luck to the rest

[Chups]

OMG! It's tougher!!

[The_Red]

I cant get it to trigger... ugh.

cant wait for 8 20/20 units that wont play!

[Nacon10]

what the heck is going on??????

im on the east coast in the states and haven't got the splash screen .

[ryano]

I haven't gotten the splash screen but the beat the boss 20 times is in my goals now. 1st boss down w/ a free hit. I've never gotten past 11 so I'm adding allies to try to get a little past that at least. I doubt I can get to 20 w/o max allies. I wish they would've left it at 15 for the first bonus.

[Ssne]

Eight down with one rare and one uncommon. Anyone know the stats on the bear yet?

[MaverickMunkey]

I can't quite believe it! 1st Boss and I got the Ogre Executioner and it is already appearing in my battle animation!

[Luke7676]

That's great a new boss event that I cannot even play until it pops up for me tomorrow as always.... Good luck y'all. Lol

[echus14]

Cleared boss 7. All commons that will never go to battle. Wish they had not changed the first level to 20. I don't think doing so will really encourage gem buying if it didn't previously.

[Nacon10]

through 5 bosses so far and all commons, 4 brutes and 1 bat

[Sethrotizall]

The event just started, I can't even trigger it, and you guys have taken out how many?

[Dr. Dengus]

The King has finally arrived ... trying to go full ally for this (350), so feel free to add me from my sig.

[Dexter Morgan]

Added you dengus

[Ssne]

10 down still just one rare. Much worse luck than last time. Not sure getting to 20 will be very easy, wish they had kept it to 15

[Dr. Dengus]

Added you dengus

Thanks man, just accepted.

[Nick-Clark1]

#1 Sluggish Brute (13/23)
#2 Afflicted Spider (142/108)
#3 Sluggish Brute (13/23)
#4 Sluggish Brute (13/23)
#5 Sluggish Brute (13/23)
#6 Sluggish Brute (13/23)
#7 Goblin Grunt (112/116)
#8 Untamed Wolf (49/36)
#9 Untamed Wolf (49/36)

[Sethrotizall]

Can't get em to pop up. He's afraid of me.

[tcapi]

Try kill all apps in memory, power down and on again.

[BadNews]

Log my boss stats
Lvl........health........reward
1..........70,000.........5,000
2........100,000.........6,000
3........150,000.........7,000
4........220,000.........8,000
5........310,000.........9,000
6........420,000.......10,000
7........560,000.......12,500
8........720,000.......15,000
9.....1,000,000.......17,500
10...1,300,000.......20,000
11...1,600,000.......22,500
12...1,740,000.......25,000
13...1,900,000.......27,500
14...2,070,000.......


Looks like I can only take down 16 bosses without gem.

[albeezy]

On boss 11 - 4 gold hits + 1 free hit
1 rare
10 commons

[dthfrmabv]

Is it just me or the drop rate on this boss event is really bad. 10 with only 1 uncommon and 9 common.

[ryano]

I had a boss trigger but I didn't get a message. Luckily I noticed the quest. I've killed 5 bosses. Have 5 extremely useless commons in a frenzied bat (15/13), 2 Brute Defenders (14/27) and 2 Forest Gnolls (20/17) At least the Brute is close to a HP!

BTW, I've got 4 of the 5 to trigger via PVP.

[echus14]

Tell me about it. 9 bosses, all commons. Just luck I guess since others are doing better.

[Sethrotizall]

Try kill all apps in memory, power down and on again.
Well, don't know how to kill all apps in memory but I tried powering down and on again. No luck.

[DIrishB]

Got 1 rare (Noxious Spider) and 4 commons so far (Brute Defender x4).

[Bruiserbrody]

1st kill I got a noxious spider :)

[Bronson]

4 bosses down and I am now the proud owner of 4 commons.

Including the last 2 boss events this would make 19 commons in a row 👍

[dthfrmabv]

12 GNOLLS are ringing and ooooneee golden wolf.....

[ezinap]

5 commons and a 96/86! I'm already happy.
Now my strongest infantry unit is.... a Goblin! Funny game it is.

[Dr. Dengus]

Anyone still not able to trigger it?

[Bea]

I haven't triggered it yet...

[Bronson]

Make that 5 commons in a row

[echus14]

Bron - race yer. I've 10 for 10 commons. Worst showing ever. LoL.

[MSH]

Six menacing gnolls in a row and then - bloodthirsty bat...can't use any of them - stats far too low...oh well, would be able to kill a couple more bosses without gems, who knows :)

[Bronson]

Bron - race yer. I've 10 for 10 commons. Worst showing ever. LoL.

All 11 bosses gave me commons in last event so I'm just carrying on where I left off lol

[Everson25]

I will start number 9. I have 7 common and 1 uncommon so far. Not a good start!

[dthfrmabv]

Maybe if we combined both our commons we can come up with a Super Common better than a rare! :)

[Bea]

Ok, finally off the mark... 2 uncommon and 2 common so far...

Edit: and a RARE!!!

Yay, didn't get a rare last time :D

[Winstrol]

20 bosses for 1 rare boss isnt worth spending gems for me , I had to spent over 400 last time to kill 15th boss with 100k attack

[SoccerStud]

Kind of saddening to see that the units I'm winning cant make it into my army

[jeffelms]

11 wins and 11 commons so far. Whoohoo.

[Addyman]

Wahoo!!

Just got an Ogre Executioner (115 / 111) on Level 3 :)

[Bea]

Wahoo!!

Just got an Ogre Executioner (115 / 111) on Level 3 :)

Brilliant!

[dthfrmabv]

Boss on level 3? You sure bud level 3?

[Luke7676]

10 down. 9 commons and 1 uncommon. Working on 11th as we speak. The first 8 bosses were only one hitters. 9 was 2 hits. 10 and 11 took over a health bar 5-6 hits

[Jhoemel]

Im getting all commons

[Helmi88]

11 down . 10 common . 1 rare (Ogre Enforcer) . Hope can make it to 20 without using any gold . Is it possible? Last time i got 15th without using any gold . But now my defense and attack increase more than 5k compare to last boss event . Is it possible?

[jeffelms]

13 wins and 13 commons now. when will my "winning streak" end.

[BadNews]

11 down . 10 common . 1 rare (Ogre Enforcer) . Hope can make it to 20 without using any gold . Is it possible? Last time i got 15th without using any gold . But now my defense and attack increase more than 5k compare to last boss event . Is it possible?

What's your level now?

[DragCro]

I kill monsters & do some quest & yet nothink! Advice??

[Alt2n8er]

I got the splash screen, but no action i take will trigger the boss. ie PvE, PvP.

[quantumace]

5 for 5 on common.

It seems pretty streaky on the number of actions it takes to trigger him.

[Alt2n8er]

Okay, i got it to trigger on the 1st map. just kept attacking till it finally popped. recieved Heavy Brute on 1st boss kill.

[Helmi88]

What's your level now?

Level 26
Attack : 20+++
Defense : 18+++

[Dr. Dengus]

Lol the commons are such garbage ... Frenzied Bat 15/13 at lvl 70 no thank you. Can we have an exchange program , 10 commons for 1 uncommon at least.

[dthfrmabv]

We need a trading post to trade all uncommons! Wow is the objective of this game t collect all commons. The should just call this the common event! N1 who collects the most common per event wins!

[dudeman]

Is it normal to do less damage per hit on the boss than your profile attack score? I'm just wondering because it's always been like that for me in KA (also no HP refill for level up), but in CC each hit I do does profile attack + attack skill*10 damage.

Doing boss 11 or 12 now, don't remember exactly. 1 rare, 1 uncommon, lots of bats and skittish whatever they are.

[Dr. Dengus]

Yeah it is dudeman, I always do ~500 - 1k less dmg than my profile attack score. I'm glad you brought that up for CC though. I always thought I was doing more dmg there because I have the crazy hit n runner, didn't even think about the attack skill multiplier. Now I'm truly convinced that hit n runner doesn't work lol.

[dudeman]

Yeah it is dudeman, I always do ~500 - 1k less dmg than my profile attack score. I'm glad you brought that up for CC though. I always thought I was doing more dmg there because I have the crazy hit n runner, didn't even think about the attack skill multiplier. Now I'm truly convinced that hit n runner doesn't work lol.

I'm not really convinced either way about the CH'n'R. I can't see it so I'm skeptical, but on the other hand, I robbed someone with ~20k+ better profile defense than my profile attack so I could tell him his true defense score and it didn't even cost me an explosive.

[Aha]

Stats on the Bloodfang Bear are:

A176 D309

The next challenge is to defeat the boss 30 times to receive a Tribal Cyclops but I don't know the stats on that one.

I don't have the increased unit stats that others have got so stats may be higher if you have these

[Vile Lynn]

Stats on the Bloodfang Bear are:

A176 D309

The next challenge is to defeat the boss 30 times to receive a Tribal Cyclops but I don't know the stats on that one

Thanks Aha, for the info. Not bad. I want one!

I haven't started beating bosses, yet. lol, maybe I should wait for them to up the award rates. The last boss I had 4 rares from the first 5 beatings... I have a feeling they made rares rarer this time.

[Deskjockey]

I'm up to boss 16, but have been getting mostly commons with only one rare and one uncommon. Sigh.

[Aha]

No problem

I'm having better luck this time - 3 uncommon and 3 rares in the first 20 bosses so maybe you should go for it

[Funkey monkey]

Congrats again Aha!





11 down . 10 common . 1 rare (Ogre Enforcer) . Hope can make it to 20 without using any gold . Is it possible? Last time i got 15th without using any gold . But now my defense and attack increase more than 5k compare to last boss event . Is it possible?

Level 26
Attack : 20+++
Defense : 18+++

Helmi88,
20,000+ attack at level 26 is very impressive. Are your main attack units machines? If so, you shouldn't be using the Engineering Academy, so you can figure out your gold hit. I think level 26 is the same bracket that I'm in but can't guarantee. My guess is you can take 13 free hits and take down boss 16. You will need to use some gold for boss 17. You should be able to take down boss 20 without using gems but you will take gold. My guess is it will take you 11 gold hits and 2 free hits to take down boss 20.

Your free hits should be around 13400 damage. Let me know if it is lower, since you didn't give your exact stats.

Calculate how much health damage it took for your last boss and I can confirm if we are in the same bracket.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Boss 17 down. 2 rares, 15 commons. Much worse turnout so far this time.

[Ssne]

How can your attack be that high at L26? My LLP is at L28 with 14400 attack (with a 950A cursed lich in there). Adding flaming cats but it's only adding about 16 each so hard to move it up quickly from here. What units are out there that I'm missing? I'm at full allies.

[Jhoemel]

Do this boss stronger than the last boss or it is the same?

[Funkey monkey]

Boss is the same as last time for my level. I haven't made it to 20 yet, so I don't know about that one.

[Ssne]

Seems harder to me. Got to 26 last time without gems. No chance I get that far this time and I have not really leveled up.

[Funkey monkey]

Ssne -
If you could get to 26 without gems, my guess is you were in the lower bracket. I was thinking the new bracket started in either 25 or 26, but not for sure. Do you remember what your level was at the last boss event?

I also agree with you that 20,000 seems very high for level 26 attack stats, but who knows what gem units he might have in his troops. Just trying to answer his question based upon what he said.

[Aha]

Thanks again Funkey munkey and good luck to you

The boss doesn't seem any tougher than last time to me, but I've raised my attack by about 2K since last event so maybe that has made it seem easier than it would have otherwise

Ssne - The flaming cat is the strongest unit at your level. Adding 16 attack for 3600 is pretty good, they only add 7 attack for me. If adding units isn't raising your stats by much you should maybe look to add some weapons or armor, these are quite pricey though

[Ssne]

Funky, I think I was level 26, as I think getting 30 bosses down got me up two levels. Makes sense that I'm in the next bracket now that you say it...I thought with the lich in my army this boss event would be easier than the last...but I might have to use a cure potion or two to just make 20. Doesn't help that I've got no rares so far for 12 bosses:(

[boardgames rule]

I just did boss 17 with 4 gold and 1 free. Will make 20 on gold! Just got my 3rd rare

[Hapl0]

The new bracket start at level 26.

[Sethrotizall]

They seem to have lowered the stats of the commons?...

Commons
Enraged Brute: 23/29
Menacing Gnoll: 26/21
Bloodthirsty Bat: 20/15
Nice to know none will make it into my army.

Uncommons:
Troll Berserker 47/50
Scourge Wolf 57/35
Goblin Warmonger 67/34

Rares
Ogre Executioner 115/111
Goblin Chieftain 125/117
Black Venom Spider 125/84

I just got a "Brute Defender" but he isn't in the above list, is he super rare? If so his stats suck! 14/27

[Ssne]

I just got a "Brute Defender" but he isn't in the above list, is he super rare? If so his stats suck! 14/27

He's your level equivalent of the enraged brute in the above list.

[Funkey monkey]

Your Brute Defender is similar to Hobtuse's Enraged Brute, except he is in a higher bracket. If it makes you feel any better, being in a lower bracket than you, my similar unit is a Heavy Brute with 11/24 stats.

[echus14]

Truly brutal stats ... LoL!

[Sethrotizall]

I need to stop leveling up.

[boardgames rule]

Does any one know what the other 20.30 nits are and stats?

[Helmi88]

Ssne -
If you could get to 26 without gems, my guess is you were in the lower bracket. I was thinking the new bracket started in either 25 or 26, but not for sure. Do you remember what your level was at the last boss event?

I also agree with you that 20,000 seems very high for level 26 attack stats, but who knows what gem units he might have in his troops. Just trying to answer his question based upon what he said.

I dont have gems unit . I got 300 centurion unit . 200 necromancer . 300 wyvern . 80 flaming catapult . I dont remember my level for the last boss event . Btw thanks for advice . Really helpful . Hopefully can go for the 20 without any gems . Now im buying more flaming to increase my attack .

[Luke7676]

Well so far, 15 commons, and 3 uncommons. On boss 18 now. I may have to use a med kit for boss 20 the way things are looking but not sure. I'm around 70 allies now an do not really wanna push up much more at this time. But I'm going for 20 free like last boss event.

[Jhoemel]

Beat boss 9 and i have 9 commons. What the hell is happening

[Helmi88]

How can your attack be that high at L26? My LLP is at L28 with 14400 attack (with a 950A cursed lich in there). Adding flaming cats but it's only adding about 16 each so hard to move it up quickly from here. What units are out there that I'm missing? I'm at full allies.

My main is beast . 300 wyvern (41/38) . 100 flaming catapult (48/22) . 200 necromancer (30/18) . 300 centurion (12/14) . That alls for my unit .

[Jhoemel]

My main is beast . 300 wyvern (41/38) . 100 flaming catapult (48/22) . 200 necromancer (30/18) . 300 centurion (12/14) . That alls for my unit .

You have the boosted stats thats why a lot have been suprised

[The1nONLY]

Stats on the Bloodfang Bear are:

A176 D309

The next challenge is to defeat the boss 30 times to receive a Tribal Cyclops but I don't know the stats on that one.

I don't have the increased unit stats that others have got so stats may be higher if you have theseU have snap shot of unit? I would like to see

[Sethrotizall]

1) Frenzied Bat (common, beast, 15/13).
2) Orge Brawler (rare, infantry, 112/110).
3) Forest Gnoll (common, infantry, 20/17).
4) Forest Gnoll (common, infantry, 20/17).
5) Orge Brawler (rare, infantry, 112/110).
6) Frenzied Bat (common, beast, 15/13).
7) Brute Defender (common, infantry, 14/27).
8) Frenzied Bat (common, beast, 15/13).
9) Forest Gnoll (common, infantry, 20/17).

[Helmi88]

15 down . 12 common . 3 rare . 5 to go .

[Jhoemel]

Boss 10 down and i have 10 commons

[Funkey monkey]

Helmi88-
With the boosted stats, my earlier guess as to how far you could go isn't likely to be correct. Sorry, it does make sense now how you could have 20,000 attack with boosted stats. For example, my wyren has an attack of 23 compared to your 41, so I would imagine our boss health at each level will be different also.

Curious though, on your next boss, tell me what your free attack is worth (number that goes up next to the boss). Write down how many hits it takes of your free attacks to get through the boss. Do this for the next two bosses or so and post them on the forum with the boss number. We can compare the two boss tables - boosted vs unboosted stats.

[Aha]

U have snap shot of unit? I would like to see

It looks exactly the same as the Dire Bear that you can buy for 50 gold

[Ssne]

Helmi88-
With the boosted stats, my earlier guess as to how far you could go isn't likely to be correct. Sorry, it does make sense now how you could have 20,000 attack with boosted stats. For example, my wyren has an attack of 23 compared to your 41, so I would imagine our boss health at each level will be different also.

Curious though, on your next boss, tell me what your free attack is worth (number that goes up next to the boss). Write down how many hits it takes of your free attacks to get through the boss. Do this for the next two bosses or so and post them on the forum with the boss number. We can compare the two boss tables - boosted vs unboosted stats.

I would love to know what "boosted" stats are and how I can get them? Is this some kind of glitch in the game?

[Funkey monkey]

This explains boosted stats from what we see but not everyone likes them.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37777-A-D-Stats-Massively-Changed&p=347589&viewfull=1#post347589

[Ssne]

This explains boosted stats from what we see but not everyone likes them.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37777-A-D-Stats-Massively-Changed&p=347589&viewfull=1#post347589

That is nuts. And it's been going on since July. Thanks for the info FM.

[Jhoemel]

Finally got an uncommon. Yay

[BadNews]

Helmi88-
With the boosted stats, my earlier guess as to how far you could go isn't likely to be correct. Sorry, it does make sense now how you could have 20,000 attack with boosted stats. For example, my wyren has an attack of 23 compared to your 41, so I would imagine our boss health at each level will be different also.

Curious though, on your next boss, tell me what your free attack is worth (number that goes up next to the boss). Write down how many hits it takes of your free attacks to get through the boss. Do this for the next two bosses or so and post them on the forum with the boss number. We can compare the two boss tables - boosted vs unboosted stats.

The boss health are the same, but the attack is higher with boosted stats.
I have two accounts in the same boss bracket. One account have higher a/d stats with old unit stats. Another account have lower a/d stats, but this account got boosted stats before the last boss event. So, the lower account got higher stats number, and it got more bosses in last boss event. :-(

[Aha]

The boss health are the same, but the attack is higher with boosted stats.
I have two accounts in the same boss bracket. One account have higher a/d stats with old unit stats. Another account have lower a/d stats, but this account got boosted stats before the last boss event. So, the lower account got higher stats number, and it got more bosses in last boss event. :-(

In that case I want the boosted stats too

[Winstrol]

2 rare 1 uncommon rest common from 9 bosses , feeling lucky :P

[Helmi88]

2 rare 1 uncommon rest common from 9 bosses , feeling lucky :P


Helmi88-
With the boosted stats, my earlier guess as to how far you could go isn't likely to be correct. Sorry, it does make sense now how you could have 20,000 attack with boosted stats. For example, my wyren has an attack of 23 compared to your 41, so I would imagine our boss health at each level will be different also.

Curious though, on your next boss, tell me what your free attack is worth (number that goes up next to the boss). Write down how many hits it takes of your free attacks to get through the boss. Do this for the next two bosses or so and post them on the forum with the boss number. We can compare the two boss tables - boosted vs unboosted stats.

Next boss will be the 17th . I will tell you how it goes . My Force Attack is worth 20656 . Its true . How far i can go isn't likely correct .

[Toddm27p]

I also have boosted stat units. I'm level 59 attack:24858 def:24511. And I couldn't pass boss 16 without using 10gems. (used all 13 attacks with gold). Am curious does boss gets harder the more you level up?

[Winstrol]

I also have boosted stat units. I'm level 59 attack:24858 def:24511. And I couldn't pass boss 16 without using 10gems. (used all 13 attacks with gold). Am curious does boss gets harder the more you level up?
yeah at level 125 tbh is waste of gems to kill these bosses even if you have 120k attack , since level 15 boss has over 2mil health and level 20 will maybe have 5mil

[Helmi88]

Helmi88-
With the boosted stats, my earlier guess as to how far you could go isn't likely to be correct. Sorry, it does make sense now how you could have 20,000 attack with boosted stats. For example, my wyren has an attack of 23 compared to your 41, so I would imagine our boss health at each level will be different also.

Curious though, on your next boss, tell me what your free attack is worth (number that goes up next to the boss). Write down how many hits it takes of your free attacks to get through the boss. Do this for the next two bosses or so and post them on the forum with the boss number. We can compare the two boss tables - boosted vs unboosted stats.

17th boss down . Force Attack 20656 x 9 times . I dont think i can make it to 20th without using gems . I just realise that i got boost stat . Thanks for the info . Its good for stat but totally suck for casualty rates . Lose more than 5 wyvern every 10 times attack .

[Bob_55]

I really dont know whats going on, I'm level 82 my boost stats ATT: 42,... DEF: 39,... and I can't defeated the boss 11, you know when I press the attack button it show me 38,890 (what's' that mean) I'm totaly lost, by the way I got 1rare, 1 uncommon and 8 common

[Baraka]

I very rarely ventur onto KA forum so sorry if this has been said somewhere but wat are the stats for the twenty boss unit. Just wondered if it's worth spending gems on.

[Winstrol]

I really dont know whats going on, I'm level 82 my boost stats ATT: 42,... DEF: 39,... and I can't defeated the boss 11, you know when I press the attack button it show me 38,890 (what's' that mean) I'm totaly lost, by the way I got 1rare, 1 uncommon and 8 common
Because you can hit boss with unboosted stats , thats why its only showing 38.890

[Bob_55]

Thanks Winstrol for the reply

[Toddm27p]

Yes Ty Winstrol for help definitely having to cool it on leveling.

[Funkey monkey]

17th boss down . Force Attack 20656 x 9 times . I dont think i can make it to 20th without using gems . I just realise that i got boost stat . Thanks for the info . Its good for stat but totally suck for casualty rates . Lose more than 5 wyvern every 10 times attack .

Helmi88
Good news for you! Even with the boosted stats, your boss has the same health strength as my bracket. (Doesn't seem fair for me with unboosted stats, but oh well). My last boss 17 had a strength of 185773, which your 17 boss had a strength of 185904 (you probably slightly overkilled him). That being said, I think you can take on boss 20 without gems. Be sure and use all 13 hits (see first post). Your strength is even higher than what I first calculated (used 20,000 assumption last time). I'm calculating you can take boss 20 with 3 free hits and 10 gold hits. If you want to be safe, use all gold hits. I think you can take the boss 20 with 12 gold hits (if boss 20 has the same stats as last boss event).

Wow, still can't believe Gree would give such an advantage in boss event to some players and not to others.

[steve_r]

Wow, still can't believe Gree would give such an advantage in boss event to some players and not to others.

CCM, could we get a word about this?

Thanks,
Steve

[Ssne]

Just got blood fang bear, 179/309 at my level. anyone know the stats on the cyclops? I will have to use gems starting around boss 25 so trying to determine if it's worth it.

[myxzyden]

All the different boss strength/hp is totally confusing me.....
I just completed boss 16 with 13 normal hits. 2 rares, 2 uncommon & 12 commons. My attack is appox 42k, hitting boss at 27k w normal attack. I'm gonna need gold hits from boss 17 onwards. Can any experienced members show me how to calculate if i'm gonna reach boss 20 without gem hits?

P.s. I'm at level 67

[Winstrol]

All the different boss strength/hp is totally confusing me.....
I just completed boss 16 with 13 normal hits. 2 rares, 2 uncommon & 12 commons. My attack is appox 42k, hitting boss at 27k w normal attack. I'm gonna need gold hits from boss 17 onwards. Can any experienced members show me how to calculate if i'm gonna reach boss 20 without gem hits?

P.s. I'm at level 67

Well you gotta contact support and ask them how much each boss has hp at your level.

[Ssne]

Myx, if by "normal" you mean free, you are easily going to make 20 without gems. In fact, you should get pretty close to the cyclops without gems.

[boardgames rule]

I just got the bear 266/456 something like that alll free level 24.

[Ssne]

boardgames I assume you have the "boosted" stats? My L29 bear was 176/309.

[Eragon]

boardgames I assume you have the "boosted" stats? My L29 bear was 176/309.

Can you post a screenshot?...I am currently at 18 kills.

[boardgames rule]

here it is
http://i46.tinypic.com/30c9fz8.png

[Funkey monkey]

All the different boss strength/hp is totally confusing me.....
I just completed boss 16 with 13 normal hits. 2 rares, 2 uncommon & 12 commons. My attack is appox 42k, hitting boss at 27k w normal attack. I'm gonna need gold hits from boss 17 onwards. Can any experienced members show me how to calculate if i'm gonna reach boss 20 without gem hits?

P.s. I'm at level 67

Myxzyden,
Here you go. You need to find someone that is in the same bracket that can tell you what they were able to get to level 20. You should feel blessed by H.K. She documents better than anyone else and is willing to share. She was level 67 during the Gladiator King. Her gladiator king has boss strength of 328944=(14*23496) and her hayden boss had 333089=(24687*12)+36845. You didn't give exact figures but 13*27000=35100. Roughly the same as her two tables.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?39130-New-Boss-Event-Hayden-the-Wicked&p=403569&viewfull=1#post403569
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

Looking at her two tables you can find the boss 20 strength
21*24292=510132
13*39023=507299
You should be able to take down the boss 20 with 507299

You didn't share your exact hit. A free hit is .67 of a gold hit. 27000/.67=40298
Your maximum is 13*40298=523,874
523874 is greater than 507299 boss strength

You should be able to take down boss 20 without gems, provided the boss 20 is the same strength as last boss event. Compare each boss with her boss strength on those two tables and you should be able to go along with the boss strength. At 67, I don't think you are close to a bracket increase.

You need to send a PM to Hello Kitty and thank her for taking such good notes for you.

Funny, I'm about to hit Post Quick Reply. Hehe

[boardgames rule]

Just did boss 21 in 7 gold hits. Do u think i can make it to 30 on gold?

[Ssne]

Just did boss 21 in 7 gold hits. Do u think i can make it to 30 on gold?

I would guess no, unless you have a lot of gold and you can add several hundred attack to your army over the next four days. I'd guess around boss 26 or 27 you will need gems.

[BadNews]

yeah at level 125 tbh is waste of gems to kill these bosses even if you have 120k attack , since level 15 boss has over 2mil health and level 20 will maybe have 5mil

I believe level 125 and level 200 should be in the same boss bracket. Here is my log

Lvl........health........reward
1..........70,000.........5,000
2........100,000.........6,000
3........150,000.........7,000
4........220,000.........8,000
5........310,000.........9,000
6........420,000.......10,000
7........560,000.......12,500
8........720,000.......15,000
9......1,000,000......17,500
10....1,300,000.......20,000
11....1,600,000.......22,500
12....1,740,000.......25,000
13....1,900,000.......27,500
14....2,070,000.......30,000
15....2,250,000.......32,500
16....2,460,000.......35,000
17....2,680,000.......37,500
18....2,920,000.......40,000
19....3,180,000

According to current data, I can only kill the level 18 boss w/o gems

[boardgames rule]

Okay thanks any way i will wait for the next boss. But at least i got a great unit.

[tcapi]

Thanks BadNews, i'm going to check this out.

[KA_Yes]

Hi Guys,

I am currently at level 112, with attack of 52k. I can only reach level 7 so far.

Does anyone know what is the boss bracket for level 112? Thanks.

Regards,

Yes

[GetItOn]

Hi Guys,

I am currently at level 112, with attack of 52k. I can only reach level 7 so far.

Does anyone know what is the boss bracket for level 112? Thanks.

Regards,

Yes

Anything past lvl 100 seems to be clumped together and you're pretty much screwed on Boss events. I'm lvl 117 with 156k attack and I'm struggling to even hit 14 w/out gems.

[BadNews]

Hi Guys,

I am currently at level 112, with attack of 52k. I can only reach level 7 so far.

Does anyone know what is the boss bracket for level 112? Thanks.

Regards,

Yes

Anything past lvl 100 seems to be clumped together and you're pretty much screwed on Boss events. I'm lvl 117 with 156k attack and I'm struggling to even hit 14 w/out gems.

Are you fail into this bracket ?
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?39633-New-Boss-Event-defeat-the-Ettin-King&p=413837&viewfull=1#post413837
You can try to count your total attack to match my boss health.

[asdfg12345]

the level 100 bracket's monsters are also alot stronger than the other brackets.

[Chups]

There's something wrong with the bracketing in boss events. At level 75 33K attack (which is a little above average than most of level 75) I can defeat up to boss 21. Now at level 77 52K attack (added almost 20K and way above average among others) I can only defeat up to boss 13. Sad sad calculations.

[KA_Yes]

Anything past lvl 100 seems to be clumped together and you're pretty much screwed on Boss events. I'm lvl 117 with 156k attack and I'm struggling to even hit 14 w/out gems.



Wow.. your attack is 3 times higher than mine.

I tried for the second time and without any success to clear level 8. I still need one more hit to kill the Boss.:(

Oh well, I think I can forget about clearing level 8 for any boss events from now, not unless I can double or triple my attack in recently month to come. ;)

Cheers...

[EiZ]

@chups, thats strange, i have little above 34k att, and i get to boss 10.... added 20k? how did yu manage that, thats impressive, nice work!

[emcee]

I finished boss 20 yesterday which took 9 gold hits. I'm not sure if I would participate in any more as I was on level 17 at start of event with 3816 experience and ended at level 19 with 4976 experience. Typically on other events I probably usually gain under 300 experience (probably 200) and have reached on average the 3rd unit reward. Last event was the worst and ended on 2. Granted units are not as good as boss tier 1 item but over time stats increase should be greater with other events vs boss.
By the way Meloric has an attack of 9611 and 56 army attack skill points with plenty of room for improvement.

It may be possible for Meloric to reach boss 50 with fewer than average gem usage but I'm not going to find out.

On level 34 Sparhawk account, I'm currently on boss 19 with estimated 11 gold hits to defeat. May cut it close to reach boss 20 on 13 hits. Not sure if the temple boost upgrade was worthwhile. At the start of last boss even I was at level 1 temple and finished off boss 15. I've now upgraded temple to level 9 with 18% boost and don't seem to see a big difference. Sparhawk has an attack score of 25,541 with 93 army attack skill points.

Update:
Just finished boss 20 for Sparhawk. Bloodfang Bear 264/464
Meloric. Bloodfang Bear 176/309

[echus14]

Boost buildings don't have any effect on Epic Boss events. Only your raw scores (including armor and weapons).

[emcee]

Boost buildings don't have any effect on Epic Boss events. Only your raw scores (including armor and weapons).

Thanks for the info. I'm going to assume its the same for MW.
Just don't say army attack has no effect.

[Funkey monkey]

Emcee -
I haven't checked this boss but last KA boss event 1 Attack skill point gained 4 gold attack towards boss. I don't play MW or CC, but I understand over there you get 10 points. (I'm still waiting for your KA guide.)

Gold = raw unboosted unit +w/a + (4xattack skill points)
Free = .67*gold hit

[EiZ]

doesnt matter how i calculate my boss att, i dont get it right, i keep a spreadcheet over my units and gear, i get that correct, so im not missing anything, but i do hit the boss with 300 more than i should, i do have unboosted stat, maybe thats it?

[emcee]

Emcee -
I haven't checked this boss but last KA boss event 1 Attack skill point gained 4 gold attack towards boss. I don't play MW or CC, but I understand over there you get 10 points. (I'm still waiting for your KA guide.)

Gold = raw unboosted unit +w/a + (4xattack skill points)
Free = .67*gold hit

FM, thanks for the calculation. Unfortunately, my level of experience in this game is rudimentary at best. Most of it is adapted from CC and MW. So a guide isn't going to happen.

Sorry bro.

[albeezy]

Boss Event Loot

Level 41 for Bosses 1-20, leveled to 42 after defeating boss 20
Stats @ max allies = 25025/18851

Boss 1 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 2 - Skittish Gnoll 17/15
Boss 3 - Cave Bat 13/11
Boss 4 - Goblin Warrior 96/86
Boss 5 - Skittish Gnoll 17/15
Boss 6 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 7 - Cave Bat 13/11
Boss 8 - Skittish Gnoll 17/15
Boss 9 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 10 - Cave Bat 13/11
Boss 11 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 12 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 13 - Skittish Gnoll 17/15
Boss 14 - Infected Spider 98/72
Boss 15 - Skittish Gnoll 17/15
Boss 16 - Infected Spider 98/72
Boss 17 - Ravenous Wolf 47/52
Boss 18 - Cave Bat 13/11
Boss 19 - Heavy Brute 11/24
Boss 20 - Skittish Knoll 17/15 (Blodfang Bear 176/309)
Boss 21 - Savage Troll 35/41 (11 gold hits + 1 free hit 23,310/gold hit)
Boss 22 - Orc Seer (54/25)
Boss 23 - Skittish Knoll 17/15
Boss 24 - Savage Troll 35/41
Boss 25 - Infected Spider 98/72 (16 gold hits + 1 free hit 23365/gold hit)
Estimated the total health for boss 25 at level 42 is no more than 397,205. Seems slightly lower than the last event Heyden the Wicked, results for bosses 23-30 posted below for comparison.

Summary:
Bonus: Bloodfang Bear
Rare: 4
Uncommon: 4
Common: 17

Where is my rare ogre?


Someone had PM'd me about the boss strength.
Here are my numbers at level 40/41 attack 23188 200/205 allies:

23 - 21065/hit - 16 hits @ 21140 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 23 = 330086
24 - 21140/hit - 18 hits @ 21140 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 24 = 380520
25 - 21140/hit - 19 hits @ 21140 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 25 = 401660
26 - 21140/hit - 21 hits @ 21140 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 26 = 436986
27 - 21140/hit - 22 hits @ 21140 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 27 = 443940 (30,800 gold)
28 - 21152/hit - 25 hits @ 21152 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 28 = 528800
29 - 21175/hit - 27 hits @ 21175 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 29 = 571725 (40500 gold)
30 - 21582/hit - 30 hits @ 21582 TOTAL HEALTH OF BOSS 30 = 647460 (46500 gold)

[Funkey monkey]

EiZ
I have a confession to make. I worked on the formula with another member. She gave me the formula from CC and MW and we tested it, but I didn't enter all my raw data. I thought she did. I tested it by adding a weapon and seeing effect, then armor, unit, skill point testing after each one noting what it was replacing and net effect. Then we looked at the relationship between gold and free.

Is your gold hit exactly 300 more?

I would like another player to test the formula if you have all your units and w/a in a spreadsheet and can tell what you take into battle.

[Chups]

@chups, thats strange, i have little above 34k att, and i get to boss 10.... added 20k? how did yu manage that, thats impressive, nice work!

Indeed. I was preparing exactly just for this boss event. I spent a lot of time adding to my attack stats. I was very disappointed when this Ettin Boss came, that either they kick the boss stats up or my level (77) belongs to the top bracket.

[d_nickels]

Those of you getting the reward units at lower levels, as you level up do the units actually change their stats to reflect the higher tier as you level, or are they stuck at the lower stat values that you actually obtained them at? Its great that low level campers can get more units for free/gold compared to higher level players, but the advantage is greatly reduced by getting units with crappier stats compared to the high level players.

[echus14]

Stats remain the same as when you got the unit. Thing is, unless you are a big gem buyer, the higher you go the harder it becomes for you to progress in the Boss event. So, the lower player may get, say, 15 tries and a reasonable chance to get some Rares which will serve him for a long time whereas the higher player may only get to boss 7 and only commons.

[ryano]

Ooops, accidently hit retreat on the 13th boss. Would have been 11 gold hits, 1 free hit but I missed one chance earlier and now I can't get back in until after time runs out. bummer. Wanting to see the possible prizes before I killed him cost me 13k gold or so. Oops.

[Dexter Morgan]

Anyone got the stats on the lvl 30 unit?

[Ssne]

One thing I cannot figure out. My LLP (level 29) has an attack of 15.3k. At full allies this means an average attack per unit of about 35.3. I am struggling on this event to get boss 18 down without gems.

At the same time, my HLP (level 51) has an attack of 26.7k, which at full allies is an average attack per unit of 34.9. And I am currently going to kill boss 23 without gems, although I bet 24 will require gems.

So it seems like my LLP is relatively stronger, yet doing worse on the boss event. Any insight? Seems like I should try and level up my LLP just to bring more units to the fight.

[GetItOn]

Anyone got the stats on the lvl 30 unit?

Tribal Cyclops - 945a / 757d (Infantry)

Ettin Champion is also a Infantry unit.

[Dexter Morgan]

Pretty good stats. Thanks for the info

[myxzyden]

Myxzyden,
Here you go. You need to find someone that is in the same bracket that can tell you what they were able to get to level 20. You should feel blessed by H.K. She documents better than anyone else and is willing to share. She was level 67 during the Gladiator King. Her gladiator king has boss strength of 328944=(14*23496) and her hayden boss had 333089=(24687*12)+36845. You didn't give exact figures but 13*27000=35100. Roughly the same as her two tables.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?39130-New-Boss-Event-Hayden-the-Wicked&p=403569&viewfull=1#post403569
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37679-Beat-the-Boss-(for-when-it-shows-up-in-KA)&p=345529&viewfull=1#post345529

Looking at her two tables you can find the boss 20 strength
21*24292=510132
13*39023=507299
You should be able to take down the boss 20 with 507299

You didn't share your exact hit. A free hit is .67 of a gold hit. 27000/.67=40298
Your maximum is 13*40298=523,874
523874 is greater than 507299 boss strength

You should be able to take down boss 20 without gems, provided the boss 20 is the same strength as last boss event. Compare each boss with her boss strength on those two tables and you should be able to go along with the boss strength. At 67, I don't think you are close to a bracket increase.

You need to send a PM to Hello Kitty and thank her for taking such good notes for you.

Funny, I'm about to hit Post Quick Reply. Hehe

Hi Funny Monkey,
Sorry for e late reply, Ive been busy KA-ing :)

I've finally beaten Boss 20 n got my Blood Fang Bear (264/464) for my bracket. Right now I've got 1 super rare, 2 rares, 3 uncommons & 15 commons.

I did it with 11gold hits at 43217 , 1 free hit at 28956. Last free hit was way overkill as the boss was left with barely visible sliver of health left. So i'll put the Boss 20 health at approximately 480k for my bracket (lvl51-75).

Here are some of my observations:-
1) Boss & Units brackets are in 25 level intervals....Lvl1-25, Lvl26-50, Lvl51-75, Lvl76-100, Lvl101-200(?)
2) Boss health increase by 1.75x for every bracket jump. (Can players from diff verify this by comparing boss 20?)
3) Each progressive boss have a 8-10% health increase, which approximate an an extra free hit, e.g. If boss 15 needs 12 free hits then boss 16 requires 13 free hits (at least for my case)

I reckon I could attemp Boss 21 with 11gold hits +2 free hits, then maxout at Boss 22 with 13gold hits. However its getting really expensive now... 1675x13gold hits = 21775 gold. Maybe I'lltry buff up my attack to 50k first before attempting. With e addition of e blood bear n an uncommon from boss 20 My attack now stands at 44500.

Thanks Funny Monkey n Hello Kitty for e data n explanation. Its been really informational :)

Cheers!!!!!!

[Jhoemel]

Im trying to get my attack to 20k before attempting to beat boss 20.

[echus14]

Does anyone know how much time left on the boss event?

[Sanguine]

Hi Funny Monkey,
Sorry for e late reply, Ive been busy KA-ing :)

I've finally beaten Boss 20 n got my Blood Fang Bear (264/464) for my bracket. Right now I've got 1 super rare, 2 rares, 3 uncommons & 15 commons.

I did it with 11gold hits at 43217 , 1 free hit at 28956. Last free hit was way overkill as the boss was left with barely visible sliver of health left. So i'll put the Boss 20 health at approximately 480k for my bracket (lvl51-75).

Here are some of my observations:-
1) Boss & Units brackets are in 25 level intervals....Lvl1-25, Lvl26-50, Lvl51-75, Lvl76-100, Lvl101-200(?)
2) Boss health increase by 1.75x for every bracket jump. (Can players from diff verify this by comparing boss 20?)
3) Each progressive boss have a 8-10% health increase, which approximate an an extra free hit, e.g. If boss 15 needs 12 free hits then boss 16 requires 13 free hits (at least for my case)

I reckon I could attemp Boss 21 with 11gold hits +2 free hits, then maxout at Boss 22 with 13gold hits. However its getting really expensive now... 1675x13gold hits = 21775 gold. Maybe I'lltry buff up my attack to 50k first before attempting. With e addition of e blood bear n an uncommon from boss 20 My attack now stands at 44500.

Thanks Funny Monkey n Hello Kitty for e data n explanation. Its been really informational :)

Cheers!!!!!!

With your math lvl26-50 bracket would have a level 20 boss with 275k. It took me 12 gold hits and one free hit at 21,931 per gold hit, so that number should be close.

Level 30 boss would be 594k - 713k, to defeat boss 30 without gems I would need 46k-55k attack. Any idea which end of that range it would be closer to? I am contemplating boss 30.

[Dr. Dengus]

Does anyone know how much time left on the boss event?

Pretty sure it ends noon PST tomorrow, haven't gotten the splash screen in a while though.

[Funkey monkey]

Lowest I've seen for your bracket - from Albeezy
Boss 20 243100
Boss 30 647460

If you decide to go for it, post your boss strength for each level.

[albeezy]

Pretty sure it ends noon PST tomorrow, haven't gotten the splash screen in a while though.
sounds about right to me. saw the splash screen this morning

[albeezy]

With your math lvl26-50 bracket would have a level 20 boss with 275k. It took me 12 gold hits and one free hit at 21,931 per gold hit, so that number should be close.

Level 30 boss would be 594k - 713k, to defeat boss 30 without gems I would need 46k-55k attack. Any idea which end of that range it would be closer to? I am contemplating boss 30.

Boss 29 took 25 hits at ~ 23512/hit, so health for Boss 29 at level 42 is around 587,800. In the last event boss 29 for me was 571725 but I was at level 41 I think. Also, my last hit on boss 29 had only a tiny amount of health and a free shot would have killed him.

Assuming that boss health does in fact increase 10% with each boss, boss 30 for me should be somewhere around 646,580 which would be somewhere around 27-28 gold hits. This number is also pretty close to what I calculated boss 30's health to be in the previous boss event.

How much time do you have, or rather, how many have you defeated? I will beat 30 later this evening and post my numbers for him, but if you are at 20 you will be cutting it close.

[Dr. Dengus]

Did the event get extended? Thought it was supposed to end at noon PST today (roughly an hour ago), but I still see the goal in my Quests tab. Wish there was another way to find out how much time is left besides the splash screen that pops up 1/15 times lol.

[Mervic]

Did the event get extended? Thought it was supposed to end at noon PST today (roughly an hour ago), but I still see the goal in my Quests tab. Wish there was another way to find out how much time is left besides the splash screen that pops up 1/15 times lol.

Event will end around 3pm tomorrow, Eastern Time.

[Mervic]

Finally defeated boss 20.
Boss #20 health - approx 1,224,888. 35k bonus for defeating the boss.

Level 103 with 51k/49k A/D, 510 allies.

[Baba2000]

Dear Senior,
Do any senior know how much you need to defeat the Boss at each level so that we can calculate at what level to stop and save money attack? I mean without using diamonds!
Thx!

[The1nONLY]

Finally see they got the event end at the correct times so it can be fix just they screw it up with the previous boss event costing people money trying to finish the event

[Funkey monkey]

Baba2000
Welcome to the forum. Sometimes Gree will tweak the events. No reason to do calculations now. At the next boss event, let us know what level you are on and how much attack is your free or gold hit. We will see what we can do to help.

[Mervic]

Learn the 13 hits attack by heart, and you will maximize your damage. Thanks Funkey for posting the 13 hits timeline at the beginning of this thread.