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War player
08-20-2012, 11:51 AM
Last 15 tries, I've gotten exactly 2 Brigand Lightnings. I used to be around 50% (+/-), but now I can't seem to get one. Is it just my bad luck, or does anyone else notice the drop in the drop rate?

I guess I can be happy I'm not getting grunts :-)

Monteverdi
08-20-2012, 12:12 PM
Well, I cannot confirm the drop rate, still believe I get 1/4 about, but I noticed that they die much easier now.

Ryans67
08-20-2012, 12:15 PM
I still get em about 25% of the time. And yes they die like flies for me. I would say that if I have 15 or more, they die just as quickly as my 600 expert attack drones.

Miner
08-20-2012, 12:17 PM
According to Khimsoo's MW Toolkit and the game files, the Brigand Lighting's consumption % is 2.5% compared to 0.4% for an EAD.

Poopenshire
08-20-2012, 12:31 PM
I have noticed times of day can effect the drop rate. i get better drop rates early AM for me.

Miner
08-20-2012, 12:38 PM
I have noticed times of day can effect the drop rate. i get better drop rates early AM for me.

Seems like speculation poopenshire. Nothing but respect for you, but I find it hard to believe this is accurate.

Poopenshire
08-20-2012, 12:40 PM
Seems like speculation poopenshire. Nothing but respect for you, but I find it hard to believe this is accurate.

it totally is speculation. But I will be darned if for some odd reason i get more back to back in the early am. Its not like when i was active PVE i was only doing it in the morning, but it just gave me better results.

Jp lfs
08-20-2012, 12:48 PM
The drop rate has halved for me, maybe worse. And now every time I lose a unit, it's a BL. Gotta wonder if it is because it was published again in the forum recently. The TR's aren't dropping for me either since that was published as well.

Dirk Durbin37
08-20-2012, 01:51 PM
My rate has dropped drastically ever since I did the update. I went from getting 1 of 3 to about 1 of 8. So I quit hitting the spot and moved on. I don't know what's worse for my sanity, feeling crazy and thinking its a conspiracy all by myself, or coming to the forum and seeing others going through the same thing. Chances are they didn't change the rate and I'm having a string of bad luck.

War player
08-20-2012, 02:11 PM
OK, thanks. It also seems that I get a BL when after 4 hits, I don't get one of those stupid crates/event boxes. If I get one, then I don't get a BL. I've got 75 of those things sitting there. Maybe during these events, I'll just go after the one that pays all the cash in the Naval Battle.

Tail gunner
08-20-2012, 02:15 PM
The drop rate has halved for me, maybe worse. And now every time I lose a unit, it's a BL. Gotta wonder if it is because it was published again in the forum recently. The TR's aren't dropping for me either since that was published as well.

JP, the TR's are dropping at the same rate as before. I am still picking these up at a rate of 1 in 4ish since the recent update and the disclosure on the forum.

Thunder Child
08-20-2012, 04:42 PM
JP, the TR's are dropping at the same rate as before. I am still picking these up at a rate of 1 in 4ish since the recent update and the disclosure on the forum.I can confirm this.

Jhoemel
08-20-2012, 06:09 PM
What does tr stand for?

Lordsloss
08-20-2012, 06:11 PM
I have noticed times of day can effect the drop rate. i get better drop rates early AM for me.I have 100 of them and and second this. When I wake up in the morning I can get sometimes four in a row. Afternoon, barely any.

Matt Thornton
08-20-2012, 06:25 PM
What does tr stand for?transport raider J :)

Jp lfs
08-20-2012, 06:53 PM
Good to hear y'all are still having good luck. I went 0-12. Gave up. But it has been streaky before. I'll give it another run. My BL's are dropping like flies now, so I might as well try something different. Thanks everyone.

Jhoemel
08-20-2012, 07:21 PM
transport raider J :)

I see, hahaha, were can I farm tr man?

Matt Thornton
08-20-2012, 07:24 PM
I see, hahaha, were can I farm tr man???????????????

Jhoemel
08-20-2012, 07:34 PM
inner sea canal / advanced destroyer - sink x4 @161 energy

Is that the rare loot for that, i got brigand lightning from that hit

Ranger4Life
08-20-2012, 08:47 PM
Is that the rare loot for that, i got brigand lightning from that hit

No, the TR doesn't come from there. Only the BL drops there.

Jhoemel
08-20-2012, 08:58 PM
No, the TR doesn't come from there. Only the BL drops there.

Where can i find tr?

Q Raider
08-20-2012, 09:07 PM
Fourth and fifth keys on the top row of letters of a QWERTY keyboard.... :-)

Matt Thornton
08-20-2012, 09:20 PM
Where can i find tr? some target, some map:confused: sorry bro i gave you the wrong info before.

Jhoemel
08-20-2012, 09:23 PM
some target, some map :confused: sorry bro i gave you the wrong info before.

I see, no problem man

Matt Thornton
08-20-2012, 09:29 PM
I see, no problem mancheck out the other threads.

Aidan
08-21-2012, 12:21 AM
Ahhh, so the location has been revealed in the forum....sigh

0 in 10 tries now for TR

Mcdoc
08-21-2012, 12:32 AM
***** some map - some target **** - blast :confused: sorry bro i gave you the wrong info before.YO MATT - that's what we have PM's for Bro! Every time a good loot gets blasted on the forums it quickly gets nerfed. If someone asked out in the open where something is - just send them a Pm. . . .

Quick - delete the post :)

And Jhoemel - fix your quote of Matt to look like mine :)

Jhoemel
08-21-2012, 12:41 AM
YO MATT - that's what we have PM's for Bro! Every time a good loot gets blasted on the forums it quickly gets nerfed. If someone asked out in the open where something is - just send them a Pm. . . .

Quick - delete the post :)

And Jhoemel - fix your quote of Matt to look like mine :)

Fixed it man

mickymacirl
08-21-2012, 12:43 AM
Lightning drop rates HAVE changed, check ur code guys.

Dreno33
08-21-2012, 12:53 AM
I have noticed times of day can effect the drop rate. i get better drop rates early AM for me.

this is true for CC. makes sense.

Jhoemel
08-21-2012, 01:00 AM
Lightning drop rates HAVE changed, check ur code guys.

Hey micky where can we see the codes? Pm me man

Matt Thornton
08-21-2012, 01:40 AM
YO MATT - that's what we have PM's for Bro! Every time a good loot gets blasted on the forums it quickly gets nerfed. If someone asked out in the open where something is - just send them a Pm. . . .

Quick - delete the post :)

And Jhoemel - fix your quote of Matt to look like mine :)
Done. thanx McDoc.

mickymacirl
08-21-2012, 02:02 AM
Use Khimsoo's app

Jhoemel
08-21-2012, 02:25 AM
Use Khimsoo's app

I see, thanks

Poopenshire
08-21-2012, 04:54 AM
Micky what was the old drop rate?

mickymacirl
08-21-2012, 04:59 AM
Don't know off hand, I'd have to check backups and to be honest, I couldn't give two ****s anymore.

SGT Brody
08-21-2012, 05:19 AM
During events drop rates change and sometimes you get some weak unit. On two of the final missions in Central America I have gotten a unit with less than 15/15 since this even started and on a third final mission there was no drop and it was the first time I had done the mission. I was not farming. I think that the drop rates for the more powerful units change during the event so they can push you towards participating in the event.

Thunder Child
08-21-2012, 06:06 AM
During events drop rates change and sometimes you get some weak unit. On two of the final missions in Central America I have gotten a unit with less than 15/15 since this even started and on a third final mission there was no drop and it was the first time I had done the mission. I was not farming. I think that the drop rates for the more powerful units change during the event so they can push you towards participating in the event.I have noticed the same thing.

mickymacirl
08-21-2012, 08:04 AM
Yep, that's old news, they also used to drop the cas rates but since version 2.2 went it.... you can guess.

Noghri_ViR
08-21-2012, 08:26 AM
According to Khimsoo's MW Toolkit and the game files, the Brigand Lighting's consumption % is 2.5% compared to 0.4% for an EAD.

EAD? What mission/map is that from?

Hellstorm
08-21-2012, 11:25 AM
You people share too much information on here... Keep quit about the loot units, their strength, casualty rate and drop rates. There used to be days where the venal fighter was indestructable but people had to talk too much and the casualty rate was changed to worst. So keep quit damn it... We are always telling you. If you wanna know pm the person. And those who know need to shut it.

Ryans67
08-21-2012, 11:34 AM
EAD? What mission/map is that from?

EAD is the Expert Attack Drone, the valor unit, not a loot unit.

Maverick50727
08-21-2012, 11:57 AM
Lightning drop rates HAVE changed, check ur code guys.
Actually nothing has changed. Looking at the 20120816_2 file the drop rate and consumption are still the same.

If you want to check the rates, I posted the top 3 drops here:
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?38580-Whale-Zone-Survial-Tips!&p=378308#post378308

Remember the drop is an average. Just because it says .33 doesn't mean 1 in 3 you will always have one. On the Transport Raiders I've got 3 in a row and other times gone for 1 in 8. Over a large period of time is how the drop rates match. IMO, you can't really test it over a few days during an event unless you really have a large amount of energy or gold to reset and try.

Maverick50727
08-21-2012, 12:12 PM
During events drop rates change and sometimes you get some weak unit. On two of the final missions in Central America I have gotten a unit with less than 15/15 since this even started and on a third final mission there was no drop and it was the first time I had done the mission. I was not farming. I think that the drop rates for the more powerful units change during the event so they can push you towards participating in the event.

Sorry, I don't see this. You would have to provide more info on exactly what missions and locations. ALL missions have fixed drop rates and loot. The loot doesn't typically change. The top boss has 3 loot with .1, .3. and .6 drop rates. ALL other missions only have a single llot drop and drop rate varies by the mission. If you got a low unit under 15/15 then that is probably the correct loot for that mission. Just because the mission shows a loot, doesn't mean you get anything. The average drop rate for all missions excluding the top boss for each map in Central America is .271555556.

Maverick50727
08-21-2012, 12:45 PM
You people share too much information on here... Keep quit about the loot units, their strength, casualty rate and drop rates. There used to be days where the venal fighter was indestructable but people had to talk too much and the casualty rate was changed to worst. So keep quit damn it... We are always telling you. If you wanna know pm the person. And those who know need to shut it.

Actually the rate for the venal is better. 4/9/12 it was .25 and now it is .025. I think the real problem is not the unit consumption changing but the qty you have along with other aspects of your unit makeup. Without know exactly how they match up units, the strong against works, skills points, dice rols, etc. I'm afraid we may always be in the dark waht is going on.

Phillis Barton
03-06-2013, 03:19 AM
I get em 6/10 but lose em even quicker... Like check b4 I start had 9 collected 4 during job checked back in
Inventory I've got 7...Yeah Right

Phillis Barton
03-06-2013, 03:27 AM
Finding them 3/4 times but very hard to keep them...

Perilous
03-12-2013, 04:01 PM
The loss rate seems to have increased. When I am attacked I seem to lose only the BL's with a rare instance of the drone or something else. For example attacked twice lost four BL's. Despite being about 1/10 of the units I use to attack or defend they are about 90% of the lost units. If this is their way of evening it out it needs to be moved from a low to a high/very high casualty rate