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mac daddy
08-13-2012, 07:10 AM
Maybe I'm missing something.. thought I'd turn to the collective wisdom at the forum for the following:

1. I'm at level 130 with 371 mafia members.

2. My attack is 27xxx and defense is 33,xxx.

3. My income is $530,000 per hour.

4. My Daily Empire Times is almost always green. People attack or rob, but fail 90% of the time.

I'm getting messages to up my mafia to 399. Is there any advantage? If I add more members, I can take more items, but I have limited number of higher respect point items (e.g., only 117 Exeleros, 117 Chain Whips, 34 RPG, and 44 Full Combat Gear).

So... should I add members or just sit?

Thanks to all for your input.

BOS
08-13-2012, 07:23 AM
Stay where you are, if your newsfeed is always green, no reason to fix what isn't broken.

Gaming Will
08-13-2012, 07:39 AM
+1 what Bos said, solid advice.

Illuminati
08-13-2012, 07:44 AM
Hmm, I had a question along the same lines.

I'm currently level 172 with 478 mafia members. My attack is 38xxx and my defense is 40xxx. My news feed is a good mix of red and green and I've gotten attacked/robbed by level 200 players with 100k+ stats. Would it benefit me to drop my mafia count to something way lower? Can higher up players still see me then?

My only concern is if I drop my mafia count, I won't be able to see those with 500 mafia to do my thug life goals (at 232 at the moment).

jmeijer
08-13-2012, 07:46 AM
Hmm, I had a question along the same lines.

I'm currently level 172 with 478 mafia members. My attack is 38xxx and my defense is 40xxx. My news feed is a good mix of red and green and I've gotten attacked/robbed by level 200 players with 100k+ stats. Would it benefit me to drop my mafia count to something way lower? Can higher up players still see me then?

My only concern is if I drop my mafia count, I won't be able to see those with 500 mafia to do my thug life goals (at 232 at the moment).You just shouldn't do Thug Life when you have less than 500 mafia. You are a rat then. But if you want to know, I have 380 mafia members and I am pretty sure that people with 500 can't see me.

Illuminati
08-13-2012, 07:49 AM
I thought "rats" were people who intentionally kept themselves at 499 mafia to avoid being targeted for thug life goals? For me, I've posted my id on the "add more mafia" section of this forum and always accepts adds. 478 is just where I've ended up at for the time being.

BOS
08-13-2012, 07:56 AM
@ Illuminati, I think you can have up to 414 mafia and those with 500 mafia cannot see you.

You can go down to 50 mafia @ level 200 and see all the upper brackets. Even those with 500 mafia

Gaming Will
08-13-2012, 08:01 AM
Your number of mafia is completely dependent on your style of play. There are varying opinions on this topic, but I will share mine with ya. I was a no banker until just recently. My mafia was 350's and rarely got attacked (got kind of boring). If you are getting creamed... Drop some mafia to keep off the radar. In 350's you can still see 500's and they can see you occasionally. Don't listen to what people call you... It is all part if a game strategy!

itzkakarot
08-13-2012, 11:21 AM
Hmm, I had a question along the same lines.

I'm currently level 172 with 478 mafia members. My attack is 38xxx and my defense is 40xxx. My news feed is a good mix of red and green and I've gotten attacked/robbed by level 200 players with 100k+ stats. Would it benefit me to drop my mafia count to something way lower? Can higher up players still see me then?

My only concern is if I drop my mafia count, I won't be able to see those with 500 mafia to do my thug life goals (at 232 at the moment).

Are you looking to build econ/iph? Drop mafia.
Do you want to PVP? Keep Mafia up or even add

Currently, I'm opting for the former. To me, PVP takes far too much time for far too little gain. While building a solid econ takes less in game time and more strategy. To each his own. Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm in the $1MM/hr camp.

Illuminati
08-14-2012, 01:45 PM
Are you looking to build econ/iph? Drop mafia.
Do you want to PVP? Keep Mafia up or even add

Currently, I'm opting for the former. To me, PVP takes far too much time for far too little gain. While building a solid econ takes less in game time and more strategy. To each his own. Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm in the $1MM/hr camp.

I tried the whole camping at one level without any pvp/robbing while focusing solely on upgrading/constructing to build income, but that got boring very quickly. Right now, my game play consists of always having one building under construction (usually a missle turret) while another building is being upgraded.

In the meantime, I use my energy to farm for The Last Call, while I look for people to attack for Thug Life goals. This unfortunately has caused me to level up fairly quickly (almost at level 173 now) and the closer I get to 200, the more people I come across with much higher stats than me. That's fine but I'm wondering what my ideal mafia number should be where I have comparable stats with my rivals.

jobadass
08-14-2012, 01:54 PM
Maybe I'm missing something.. thought I'd turn to the collective wisdom at the forum for the following:

1. I'm at level 130 with 371 mafia members.

2. My attack is 27xxx and defense is 33,xxx.

3. My income is $530,000 per hour.

4. My Daily Empire Times is almost always green. People attack or rob, but fail 90% of the time.

I'm getting messages to up my mafia to 399. Is there any advantage? If I add more members, I can take more items, but I have limited number of higher respect point items (e.g., only 117 Exeleros, 117 Chain Whips, 34 RPG, and 44 Full Combat Gear).

So... should I add members or just sit?

Thanks to all for your input.With so many rp items, you're obviosly doing thug life goals. That's why you should go to 500.

sexkitteh
08-14-2012, 02:00 PM
With so many rp items, you're obviosly doing thug life goals. That's why you should go to 500.

What he really means is 499

jobadass
08-14-2012, 02:05 PM
What he really means is 499LOL. Not really, but I see OP's reasoning..doesn't make it right tho. OP, Even with only having such few mafia, you're pretty strong for your level. Hell I'm at 151 and you have more than half the people beat here.
My question is why NOT add mafia? Max it out and see how it goes. Only a few will be able to touch you. You can always go back to where the fun isn't.

Vile Lynn
08-14-2012, 02:36 PM
Really... You shouldn't worry about players with higher stats than you finding you.

They will find you & the game goes on for the weak & the strong.

Chris the Killer
08-14-2012, 02:46 PM
Hmm, I had a question along the same lines.

I'm currently level 172 with 478 mafia members. My attack is 38xxx and my defense is 40xxx. My news feed is a good mix of red and green and I've gotten attacked/robbed by level 200 players with 100k+ stats. Would it benefit me to drop my mafia count to something way lower? Can higher up players still see me then?

My only concern is if I drop my mafia count, I won't be able to see those with 500 mafia to do my thug life goals (at 232 at the moment).



You will still see them. I am at 160 with only 178 mafia, and I see plenty of 500 mafia guys (at TL 156).

caribean
08-14-2012, 09:03 PM
can someone help me im level 64 and have 490 mafia, 10014 def, 7032 att, i have have 2181 items weapons and 1072 def items 308 in cars 17 level 6 gaurd towers 1 level 7 gaurd tower 2 lvl 10 abandoned builds and 1 safe house lvl 6 and level 2 mahine gun turret . my problem is when people rob me they can have 5 to 6k att and when i try to rob someone even 1k higher then me i lose so my question is do i need to delete mafia to do better.

forgot to add that i win most fights when i get attacked.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 09:29 PM
My news feed is 98% always red and I only have 4 human mob members. The rest are computer members. What can I do to increase my chances?

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:33 PM
can someone help me im level 64 and have 490 mafia, 10014 def, 7032 att, i have have 2181 items weapons and 1072 def items 308 in cars 17 level 6 gaurd towers 1 level 7 gaurd tower 2 lvl 10 abandoned builds and 1 safe house lvl 6 and level 2 mahine gun turret . my problem is when people rob me they can have 5 to 6k att and when i try to rob someone even 1k higher then me i lose so my question is do i need to delete mafia to do better.

forgot to add that i win most fights when i get attacked.

If you have 490 mafia and 308 cars, you don't have enough cars. Bring your cars up to the same number as your mafia. Every car you add up until that point will give you the full attack & defense value for it.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:35 PM
My news feed is 98% always red and I only have 4 human mob members. The rest are computer members. What can I do to increase my chances?

It doesn't matter whether they're human or henchmen. Just make sure that they're well equipped: for every mafia member, be sure to have 1 gun, 1 melee, 1 armor, and 1 vehicle. It's too early to start with explosives because you'll just end up losing them all the time.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 09:40 PM
It doesn't matter whether they're human or henchmen. Just make sure that they're well equipped: for every mafia member, be sure to have 1 gun, 1 melee, 1 armor, and 1 vehicle. It's too early to start with explosives because you'll just end up losing them all the time.

My stats:

Level=22
Mafia=25
Weapons=241
Armor 79
Vehicles=9
Attack=423
Defense=535
IPH=840

What is something affordable for my IPH that would help me greatly?

Steve0
08-14-2012, 09:41 PM
I need more mafia to finish my goals, I have not recived my Golden guns yet then I will be droping down my mafia again.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:42 PM
My stats:

Level=22
Mafia=25
Weapons=241
Armor 79
Vehicles=9
Attack=423
Defense=535
IPH=840

What is something affordable for my IPH that would help me greatly?

More cars. You're 16 cars short. Avoid the Junkers IMO unless that's all you can afford. If you have any RP vehicles available, go for those.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 09:43 PM
I have 12,682 dollars and 1,145 respect.
Any cheap cars you know of?

Steve0
08-14-2012, 09:49 PM
I have 12,682 dollars and 1,145 respect.
Any cheap cars you know of?I got a 86 sentra I will sell 12,000 you can keep the change.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:49 PM
I have 12,682 dollars and 1,145 respect.
Any cheap cars you know of?

Do you have the Mustang in your vehicle list yet?

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:50 PM
I got a 86 sentra I will sell 12,000 you can keep the change.

If (s)he bought that, (s)he'd lose a lot of respect. :)

Steve0
08-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Not my problem

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 09:54 PM
If (s)he bought that, (s)he'd lose a lot of respect. :)
If you're referring to me, I'm a guy :P


Do you have the Mustang in your vehicle list yet?
Yes

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:56 PM
If you're referring to me, I'm a guy :P


Yes

Good starter car that you don't have to dish out any cash for.

Steve0
08-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Save for Camaro's, and save your respect for something better later.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 09:59 PM
Save for Camaro's, and save your respect for something better later.

The Mustang has better stats and he can buy a whole bunch right away. Instant gratification.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:01 PM
The Mustang has better stats and he can buy a whole bunch right away. Instant gratification.
Should I buy 10ish or save up for some other respect item?

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Should I buy 10ish or save up for some other respect item?

I'd buy as many as you can. You'll be earning plenty of RP with every fight, robbery, and fight goal you complete.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Old Attack:432
New Attack:534

Old Defense:541
New Defense:609

Thanks for the advice :D

Steve0
08-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Because you cant buy respect, use your econ to buy the cheep stuff and use your saved respect for the good stuff later, or not if I were to do it over again thats what I would do.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Old Attack:432
New Attack:534

Old Defense:541
New Defense:609

Thanks for the advice :D

No problem. Just be sure to check your opponent's profile for his attack & defense stats before throwing a punch or robbing them. Don't start a fight you can't finish.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:09 PM
No problem. Just be sure to check your opponent's profile for his attack & defense stats before throwing a punch or robbing them. Don't start a fight you can't finish.
Yep, I do that but sometimes even though I have 100 or so more attack then his/her defense, they still beat me :(

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:14 PM
What else can I do to increase my attack significantly with $11,584 and 20 RP?

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:21 PM
What else can I do to increase my attack significantly with $11,584 and 20 RP?

Not a whole lot. Get more money by doing jobs, robbing, and attacking people. Add more people to your mafia (plenty of game IDs here in the forum). Just keep in mind that you'll have to equip your mafia. Feel free to add me - my ID is in my signature.

You do have enough weapons and armor to add some decent points immediately by adding people. Just be sure to eventually buy them cars.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:23 PM
I removed everyone mob member since I had about 100 and lost 100% of fights and robbery's. I have 77 requests at the moment XD

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Old Attack:432
New Attack:534

Old Defense:541
New Defense:609

Thanks for the advice :D

And now my attack dropped down to 486....

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:30 PM
And now my attack dropped down to 486....

And my defense is down to 577 too...

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:30 PM
And now my attack dropped down to 486....

How did that happen?

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:32 PM
I don't know :(

I went to attack some people and was comparing skills when I noticed the drop

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Did you dump mafia members since you added the mustangs?

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:34 PM
Nope, nothing except going to fight people. Didn't even fight anyone, just checked 3 people.

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:37 PM
I dunno what to say. Have you read the Best of the best post in the stickies?

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
I started to. And is this a normal occurrence or should I ask CCM or someone about it?

TonySpaghetti
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
I don't think its ever happened to me, but I don't pay close attention to my stats. Don't pm CCM about that. If you're really worried about it, cut a ticket with support.

Dudebot121256
08-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Ok, It's not that big of a drop so I guess I'll leave it for now since I already have a ticket sent for something else.

Khayman
08-15-2012, 12:44 AM
Had you consumable explosives? If you don't drop your mafia i think is the only "not bugged" way.

Other thing. I'd recommended stay a little bit over 300 mafia. You can buy the nightclub, you are near near invisible for 500 mafia guys but you can see them and do Thug Life to gain respect points. Even with 300 you'll be stronger than many 500 and only need to refresh the rival list 2 or 3 times.

I do, at level 107, because i can not-bank with 300 (only one sucessfull attack in month) and save the 10% fee (it's millions dude). But if i go to 500 i can't have the money in my hands and need to bank it.

This is the idea, find the mafia bracket optimun for your level. Mine is 300 but you must test by yourselves. Keep in mind another thing, if you drop your mafia a 10% you dont miss 10% of your stats because you still use the best 90% items in each category and "discard" the 10% worst.

I hope you can understand me, my english as you can see is only so and so.

Dudebot121256
08-15-2012, 12:46 AM
Nope, never touched explosives.

Khayman
08-15-2012, 12:49 AM
:S Seems rare to me.

By the way i read NOW that you are 22. I was speaking thinking in a level 100+ guy who can recruit 500 mafia.

Stupid Khayman... ...Meh, keep the advice for the future.

Dudebot121256
08-15-2012, 12:56 AM
Yep, I'm a noob :P
If I wanted, right now, I could have a 100 man mob but I don't want to yet.

Khayman
08-15-2012, 01:03 AM
Then gain more requests. Save it to 300 for when you want to go for the NCs, after you can drop again.

Don't accept anybody now but you can use this: http://www.crimecitymafiacodes.com/

Dudebot121256
08-15-2012, 01:09 AM
I'm not sure how but I keep getting requests daily and I'm up to 77 atm.

caribean
08-15-2012, 01:42 AM
If you have 490 mafia and 308 cars, you don't have enough cars. Bring your cars up to the same number as your mafia. Every car you add up until that point will give you the full attack & defense value for it.

thanks thats what i thought but wasn't sure.

sexkitteh
08-15-2012, 08:38 AM
I removed everyone mob member since I had about 100 and lost 100% of fights and robbery's. I have 77 requests at the moment XD

Just as an FYI - dreno had issues when adding 300+ members in 1 shot... so may or may not work...

Don't spend any of your RP.... just stock up on lots of cheap items...

what level are you?

Like 200 AK's is a good target get about 200 of the pickup trucks etc....

and get 200-300 of the tennis r and the tazers obviously tazers if they are unlocked for you...

DON'T DO MISSIONS... if you are going to level up ONLY do PVP... you will get items from this and won't level TOO fast...

ABH FOR LIFE :D lolz

Illuminati
08-15-2012, 09:06 AM
@ Illuminati, I think you can have up to 414 mafia and those with 500 mafia cannot see you.

You can go down to 50 mafia @ level 200 and see all the upper brackets. Even those with 500 mafia


Your number of mafia is completely dependent on your style of play. There are varying opinions on this topic, but I will share mine with ya. I was a no banker until just recently. My mafia was 350's and rarely got attacked (got kind of boring). If you are getting creamed... Drop some mafia to keep off the radar. In 350's you can still see 500's and they can see you occasionally. Don't listen to what people call you... It is all part if a game strategy!

So at my level (173), is 414 mafia the number to be at to avoid being attacked by level 200 players with 100k+ stats? Because I dropped my mafia from 478 to 440 and am still being attacked/robbed by the same people...only my stats are lower now.

BOS
08-15-2012, 09:15 AM
So at my level (173), is 414 mafia the number to be at to avoid being attacked by level 200 players with 100k+ stats? Because I dropped my mafia from 478 to 440 and am still being attacked/robbed by the same people...only my stats are lower now.

Yes, 414-415 is the cutoff (as of right now) to stay off the radar from the upper bracket.