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CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 07:34 PM
as I said earlier I was attacked by a hacker who I knew was a hacker because he had units that weren't out yet! His stats were 20 some k attack and 20 some k defense!!! I reported him 5 times, ok now I go back and look at his account and his stats are 100k attack and 100k defense level 58!!! Wtf gree/funzio fix this bs!!! I can't play this game no more in the future if it's gonna keep going like this! I know I know you guys are gonna say report him. But these damn hackers are poping up left and rite it's crazy...

Crime City Mark
08-08-2012, 07:35 PM
We just added some increased cheat detection / prevention about an hour ago, FYI.

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 07:41 PM
We just added some increased cheat detection / prevention about an hour ago, FYI.



Really mark that's great news! Mark it seems that these hackers are all using the same files and getting the same units! Tell support to patch it! I'm gonna do some research on line to find out what ppl are doing to hack MW and then I'll pm you the information I'm tired of this...

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 07:44 PM
Oh and sorry for my language I was just upset.

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Mark do you think there will be a way for support to take away the losses the hacker gave me and get my money back? He took millions from me : (

SeqWins
08-08-2012, 07:47 PM
Gin, Sierra Tango Fox Uniform !

Dreno33
08-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Mark do you think there will be a way for support to take away the losses the hacker gave me and get my money back? He took millions from me : (

maybe you should vault your 2 million next time :rolleyes:

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 07:51 PM
maybe you should vault your 2 million next time :rolleyes:


My vault is maxed out at 10million already... It was millions I couldent vault and was saving for the boss... He ruined my strategy!!! Damn hackers... I hate cheaters

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 07:58 PM
We just added some increased cheat detection / prevention about an hour ago, FYI.

Was that added across all games?

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 08:05 PM
Fuzzy!!! Was up dude!!! How you and my cc ppl been?

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 08:09 PM
Hanging out over here for a little if u don't mind?

Just installed this silly MW game to give it a go 2 days ago or so.

Trying to read up on some things about how this game works.

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 08:19 PM
No your fine bro. Your always welcome here! I'm telling you give MW a chane you'll love it. It's more strategy in this game and the longer you play the funnier it gets. Just pick Russia or uk as you flag and any other questions just ask me or some of my buddies. The best thing is fuzzy theres so much stuff you could do with money in modern war unlike crime city.

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 08:23 PM
Thanks for the welcome.

I picked UK when I started.

I sent homework boy a couple of pm's and he just keeps sending me to his threads....

So sent KOD a pm now I'm afraid after reading some of her stuff I might get a 6 page article back....

Dreno33
08-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Thanks for the welcome.

I picked UK when I started.

I sent homework boy a couple of pm's and he just keeps sending me to his threads....

threaD, no (s). that thread was thought of b/c of other cc members coming to MW and PMing knowing i have been playing both. (and how bronson and one other lurker did the same visa versa)

the quick tip thread, if you read it, answered the questions you asked me in the PM, plus a lot more other stuff you should know

Crime City Mark
08-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Was that added across all games?

Yup, it certainly was.

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the welcome.

I picked UK when I started.

I sent homework boy a couple of pm's and he just keeps sending me to his threads....

So sent KOD a pm now I'm afraid after reading some of her stuff I might get a 6 page article back....


Haha I know rite! She can sure type. So there's hacks going on in cc to? Are they poping up left and rite?

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 08:34 PM
Haha I know rite! She can sure type. So there's hacks going on in cc to? Are they poping up left and rite?

Everyday....everyday

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 08:36 PM
Wow thats crazy... Buts it's good to hear that they are really working on it.

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 08:39 PM
Yup, it certainly was.

Now that is news the forum wants to hear about CCM. That is worth a sticky for at least a few hours so the forum knows your programmers are working on patches.

Boom
08-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Hey fuzzy!! We never talk on the CC forum :p

Buggs1a
08-08-2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the welcome.

I picked UK when I started.

I sent homework boy a couple of pm's and he just keeps sending me to his threads....

So sent KOD a pm now I'm afraid after reading some of her stuff I might get a 6 page article back....

But well worth it.

Besides, KOD is extremely special lady :)

fuzzy
08-08-2012, 09:16 PM
Hey fuzzy!! We never talk on the CC forum :p

You are correct, let's keep it that way over here also.

joaquim
08-08-2012, 09:21 PM
You are correct, let's keep it that way over here also.

Reading this gave me a good laugh. lol

David P
08-08-2012, 09:27 PM
You are correct, let's keep it that way over here also.


Haha Flan is the ugly redheaded stepchild

Miner
08-08-2012, 09:47 PM
I just ran across a player with 143 allies and an unboosted attack of over 247,000. That's over 400 attack points for every unit in battle! I reported him obviously.

Boom
08-08-2012, 09:49 PM
You are correct, let's keep it that way over here also.Kinda hurts.. Oh well

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 09:51 PM
I just ran across a player with 143 allies and an unboosted attack of over 247,000. That's over 400 attack points for every unit in battle! I reported him obviously.



Dude it's getting crazy with these hackers!!! I'm telling once again my report player button sounds really good now...

Boom
08-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Gin u think that's gonna help?

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Yes it is!!! It will make it easier in all of us...

Mad
08-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Dude it's getting crazy with these hackers!!! I'm telling once again my report player button sounds really good now...

Yeah, hackers seem to be reported almost daily now. Now we don't know if they are all hackers, some may be legit, some may even be developers.

albeezy
08-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Okay do these stats sound like no casualty glitchers? I know they, meaning Funzio, say it doesnt exist, but with all of the hackers popping up I decided to check out the people attacking me and I found 2 on my list with insane amounts of valor units. Essentially they have armies of all valor and event loot units

Level 160 - 50671 fights won
76904/77042 (2,793 valor units)
HM 31/35*76 = 2356/2660
EAD 46/30*191 = 8786/5730
M270 MLRS 17/37*500 = 8500/18500
SH 36/26*1911 = 68796/49686
EOH 37/48*615 = 22755/29520

Level 140 - 32963 fights won
78723/79601 (1,812 valor units)
HM 31/35*343 = 10633/12005
EAD 46/30*513 = 23598/15390
SE 18/11*240 = 4320/2640
M270 MLRS 17/37*250 = 4250/9250
SH 36/26*466 = 16776/12116
EOH 37/48*363 = 13431/17424


I have pics but didnt feel like uploading them

CAPT.GIN
08-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Yeah, hackers seem to be reported almost daily now. Now we don't know if they are all hackers, some may be legit, some may even be developers.


If your always on the forms you'll know if there hackers or not but a lot of ppl out there dont hang around the forms so they wouldent be able to tell they'll just think there heavy gold players! Also there are a lot of hackers to who play it smart and make there accounts look legit and hacked with a few units here and there, these guys are the hard ones to find. The one who attacked me today had a account like this but I caught him after I studied his inventory.

Ryans67
08-08-2012, 11:14 PM
Just a FYI, they will not replace your units lost to attacks by accused hackers. Reason being that if they were to replace the units, it would be a tacit admission that the person is in fact cheating.

That's just what they told me..... Not something that I agree with.

albeezy
08-08-2012, 11:23 PM
I would love to hear an explanation of people can actively PVP with all valor unit armies and they do not dwindle to zero? Three people I have seen have 1000+ super hornets. With as many people that have posted here about valor unit losses I am sorry but math and luck as an answer just doesn't cut it? Not as bad as hacking but it strikes me as strange

mickymacirl
08-09-2012, 12:28 AM
I can safely say funzio is actively catching cheaters and banning them.

ShawnBB
08-09-2012, 12:48 AM
lol, cc folks are all over here.

It's good to hear from CCM that they are at least taking some sort of actions.
Casualty glitchers made me quit being active in MW,because there is no live target for me to attack... Glitchers beat them all up. Which makes me impossible to farm battle points and my banked valor will never be used.
Game went to pointless.

It is time to fix this now, been 3 months already!!!! Gamer without casualty is literally=cheating.

Mark Bodenhausen
08-09-2012, 03:14 AM
Am I dealing with cheats???

P*****
Level 14
3 alliance members
British
Robotics facility level 3...thought that you had to be level 20

C******** W******
Level 14
3 alliance members
British
Elite training facility level 5...

a***
Level 14
3 alliance members
US
Elite training facility and dry docks...a level 50 upgrade!

And what are the black boxes they have under the battle results? How come I can't see attack/defense numbers for the units or what they are called, just how many they have?

Just a noob asking questions...

leo23
08-09-2012, 03:19 AM
I can safely say funzio is actively catching cheaters and banning them.

I can second that, I've been reporting all dodgy accounts and they all got banned after investigation. Just report to customer service and they will take care of it.

Q Raider
08-09-2012, 05:28 AM
Hi Mark.
In the early days level limits were not placed on buildings so it is possible that they are players who are in the extreme camping category.

I have a Low Level Player moving through at present and often come across people with advanced airbases etc etc.

Not sure about your comment re black boxes. If you select a unit in the post battle screen it should show you an expanded view of the unit. There have been some issues with units going missing recently so they may also be some of those.

Kiss Of Death
08-09-2012, 07:37 AM
Okay do these stats sound like no casualty glitchers? I know they, meaning Funzio, say it doesnt exist, but with all of the hackers popping up I decided to check out the people attacking me and I found 2 on my list with insane amounts of valor units. Essentially they have armies of all valor and event loot units Level 160 - 50671 fights won76904/77042 (2,793 valor units)HM 31/35*76 = 2356/2660EAD 46/30*191 = 8786/5730M270 MLRS 17/37*500 = 8500/18500SH 36/26*1911 = 68796/49686EOH 37/48*615 = 22755/29520Level 140 - 32963 fights won78723/79601 (1,812 valor units)HM 31/35*343 = 10633/12005EAD 46/30*513 = 23598/15390SE 18/11*240 = 4320/2640M270 MLRS 17/37*250 = 4250/9250SH 36/26*466 = 16776/12116EOH 37/48*363 = 13431/17424I have pics but didnt feel like uploading themNo. Let's see in 3 weeks I have lost ... 340+ attack drones still have under 100 left.... Lost 400 super hornets, lost 300 whatever planes @150 valor each and recently 25 elite ops jellies out of my 140 let alone the 60 I lost a month ago, in 5 days I have banked nearly 20,000 more valor... Nothing they have sounds wrong... Why have I lost so many? Simple. I attack up not down to get high BP... I have no decent high attack cash units so I lose valor units... Had I been smarter and camped for a few months and support my valor units properly I would easily had numbers nearly as high as those above and I am only level 123... Now I buy no more valor units (she says for a tenth time...) until I get my IPH and cash units up and unlocked. So now pvp only weaker selected targets to get zero losses every attack... Mind you i am only 76000 BP from colonel now

Arizona
08-09-2012, 07:47 AM
So now pvp only weaker selected targets to get zero losses every attack... Mind you i am only 76000 BP from colonel now
Sam, what sort of BP numbers were you getting from attacking up? and what now going after the weak?
I think that's a good strategy when you miss out on building an economy. Doesn't stop you from levelling up your $ buildings though.

albeezy
08-09-2012, 07:59 AM
No. Let's see in 3 weeks I have lost ... 340+ attack drones still have under 100 left.... Lost 400 super hornets, lost 300 whatever planes @150 valor each and recently 25 elite ops jellies out of my 140 let alone the 60 I lost a month ago, in 5 days I have banked nearly 20,000 more valor... Nothing they have sounds wrong... Why have I lost so many? Simple. I attack up not down to get high BP... I have no decent high attack cash units so I lose valor units... Had I been smarter and camped for a few months and support my valor units properly I would easily had numbers nearly as high as those above and I am only level 123... Now I buy no more valor units (she says for a tenth time...) until I get my IPH and cash units up and unlocked. So now pvp only weaker selected targets to get zero losses every attack... Mind you i am only 76000 BP from colonel now
But when going into battle with only event loot units which are indestructable and valor units, ALL losses will be valor units. I do not see how fielding a 2000 unit army with maybe 100 event units and 1900 valor units enables you to maintain those numbers? I am by far not an expert at this stuff, but I lose units attacking up and down. Every person that attacked me yesterday that I check had the same stats. About 70k/70k with all valor and event loot unit armies. Just noticed a trend and I was curious. BTW KOD, what is your total valor unit count?

Kiss Of Death
08-09-2012, 09:35 AM
But when going into battle with only event loot units which are indestructable and valor units, ALL losses will be valor units. I do not see how fielding a 2000 unit army with maybe 100 event units and 1900 valor units enables you to maintain those numbers? I am by far not an expert at this stuff, but I lose units attacking up and down. Every person that attacked me yesterday that I check had the same stats. About 70k/70k with all valor and event loot unit armies. Just noticed a trend and I was curious. BTW KOD, what is your total valor unit count?

Attacking down I don't lose any. My attack skill is 159 (def is 10) and my valor count is down down down as I have not been replacing... its down from over 1200 to 361 left.. thanks Madbach you french Grrrr. Don't forget I have over 400 gold/event units going to battle too.

albeezy
08-09-2012, 09:43 AM
Attacking down I don't lose any. My attack skill is 159 (def is 10) and my valor count is down down down as I have not been replacing... its down from over 1200 to 361 left.. thanks Madbach you french Grrrr. Don't forget I have over 400 gold/event units going to battle too.

I think that answers my question

maxxyme
08-09-2012, 09:44 AM
Hi all,

Is this a possible reason why I came across a user called "manfred" (GER flag) - yes I drop names - who was only at level 10 but had two buildings that can only be available when you're at higher levels: Elite Training (lvl 20) and Robotics F(actory?) (lvl 30).

Cheers,
Maxx

Mark Bodenhausen
08-09-2012, 10:31 AM
Hi Mark.
In the early days level limits were not placed on buildings so it is possible that they are players who are in the extreme camping category.

I have a Low Level Player moving through at present and often come across people with advanced airbases etc etc.

Not sure about your comment re black boxes. If you select a unit in the post battle screen it should show you an expanded view of the unit. There have been some issues with units going missing recently so they may also be some of those.

Doesn't seem fair. Should not be able to operate under different rules.

I've been attacked by a player for days, even though I never fought back hoping I would scroll off his list but he finds me anyway. I've lost close to half million, but he is level 22, has 400 attack 518 defense. How does a level 14 defend with 100 points? I get robbed and beaten by him several times a day.

:-(

Mark

Ryans67
08-09-2012, 10:37 AM
Get that vault up.... It's critical at those levels if you have a good economy. My LLP would make a fortune attacking blindly at the lower levels, up until about 50ish. Also, the most fun I had was buying a vault of gold at the start and buying crates. Nobody could touch me for a while. It was a blast.

David P
08-09-2012, 12:33 PM
No. Let's see in 3 weeks I have lost ... 340+ attack drones still have under 100 left.... Lost 400 super hornets, lost 300 whatever planes @150 valor each and recently 25 elite ops jellies out of my 140 let alone the 60 I lost a month ago, in 5 days I have banked nearly 20,000 more valor... Nothing they have sounds wrong... Why have I lost so many? Simple. I attack up not down to get high BP... I have no decent high attack cash units so I lose valor units... Had I been smarter and camped for a few months and support my valor units properly I would easily had numbers nearly as high as those above and I am only level 123... Now I buy no more valor units (she says for a tenth time...) until I get my IPH and cash units up and unlocked. So now pvp only weaker selected targets to get zero losses every attack... Mind you i am only 76000 BP from colonel now

KOD, by my account you lost 45,000 worth of valor in strike eagles, 140,000 in super hornets, 170,000 in drones, and 51,000 in elite ops for a total of 406,000 valor lost.

At a rate of 20,000 valor per 5 days, you only gained ~ 80,000 over 3 weeks.

Unless I'm missing something, you also said that a significant percentage (greater than 50) of your army was cash. Based on this math, granted it could be off, there is no way you could grow a valor army to the size that gin listed.

Am I missing something?

albeezy
08-09-2012, 12:46 PM
KOD, by my account you lost 45,000 worth of valor in strike eagles, 140,000 in super hornets, 170,000 in drones, and 51,000 in elite ops for a total of 406,000 valor lost.

At a rate of 20,000 valor per 5 days, you only gained ~ 80,000 over 3 weeks.

Unless I'm missing something, you also said that a significant percentage (greater than 50) of your army was cash. Based on this math, granted it could be off, there is no way you could grow a valor army to the size that gin listed.

Am I missing something?
I was speculating about players being low-casualty/no-casualty glitchers (not a hack or cheat to my knowledge, just a blessed bug for those who got it). And yeah, if she is losing that many despite 400 gold units and lots of cash units, a player with an ALL VALOR army that actively engages in PVP is impossible in my eyes without the low cas glitch

Wambo
08-09-2012, 12:51 PM
You can't stop the hackers, i have seen myself when you jailbreak your iOS device, you have a file called OpenSSH - Every hackers friend... Funzio/Greed can't stop them cos you can hide your trails. Early detection they say huh? Pffff! I say it's down to all this group bullying that goes on. You fight someone, they can't beat you, so they bring other heavy fighters to fight their battles. No wonder why hackers are crawling out from the woodworks, I bet most want revenge so they can mess up these golden armies stats... Funzio will never stop the group bullying since Funzio know they earn so much commission from the golden army guys, but that in turn fuels these hackers. I doubt this game will go no further as a respected strategic game. Funzio keep changing the rules of the game so you can't create a good strategy, then you have all these silly bullies, then there's the hackers...

Ascent
08-09-2012, 02:22 PM
By the way, is there a thread where all the data is available about the no casualty glichers? Something similar to the Boss event data thread...

Suppose funzio is right, there is no such glitch... can we figure out what is going on by looking at the data?

I know very little about this, because I do not have it nor did I notice anyone attacking me with an obvious casualty glitch. However, I did wonder, how can JMC do thousands of attacks without losing units, when I was losing units even when I was attacking abbandoned accounts with a few hundered troops in all.

Now, that I upgraded my stats I did notice that those players who I was milking for valor suddenly stopped causing me losses. To me it seems that there has to be atleast a 25k-30k difference in stats for not suffering losses... at least in my case.

Is it possible that the no casualty glitchers also stumbled upon a formula, an army composition without knowing how it works? Can we figure it out?

It is also quite possible that the data will quickly show that there must be a glitch... in that case it will also be useful... for fixing it.

Ascent
08-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Or maybe it is not my attack increase that lowered my casualties, but a much more drastic defense increase? What if the losses we incur during an attack is not determined by our attack strength but by our defense strength (relative to the opponent's)?

SGT Barr
08-10-2012, 02:01 PM
As much as well all hate the people who hack this game, give themselves all these gold/money/units/upgrade and then turn around and attack up and down until they are board with us. What about all the hackers who give themselves a billion, trillion, fa-hillion dollars and never play the game again. There are a ton of accounts with crazy money in the Lvl100 area. Bases are not upgraded, no defenses to speak of, poorly build army... You can tell someone came into some quick money and played for a week and got bored. How many of us stumble across those bases and walk about a multi millionaire.

Look I dislike losing 30 straight attacks from a hacker just like you. Heck I'm a gold buyer so it should really piss me off. I buy gold to be better than others (in the game). But at the end of the day... We reap as much money from them as they steal. If not much, much, much more.

If your not attacking, ie. camping for weeks on end, then you are missing out the bright side of hackers. Their abandoned profiles and bases that still have tons of loot to steal.

Mcdoc
08-10-2012, 02:32 PM
I would love to hear an explanation of people can actively PVP with all valor unit armies and they do not dwindle to zero? Three people I have seen have 1000+ super hornets. With as many people that have posted here about valor unit losses I am sorry but math and luck as an answer just doesn't cut it? Not as bad as hacking but it strikes me as strange

Those who camp and don't do PvP very often are missing out on all the high valor payouts. I camped for about 5 or 6 weeks and only did PvE missions to avoid the insane casualty rates - but then when I started back up on PvP - like every 10th attack gave me 1200, 1400, 1500, 2,000 valor - I was literally banking 20,000 valor A DAY for a short period while my PvP valor missions caught up to my level.

I point This out because campers see people with lots of Valor units and sometimes automatically call "Foul" just because they haven't experienced the big Valor payouts for themselves.

With that said - as I hit the Valor Paydirt - I was completely focusing on Super Hoernets - so at one point in time I had -1900 of them - then I realized I only bring 2000 units into battle and I probably have over 400 gold units. So now I maintain my SH count between 900 - 910 and sometimes when I unload a clip of attacks on someone I may drop down to 890 - but I work a day or so to get it back up to 910.

When I attack people near my level & rank - I lose an SH or 2 with EVERY attack - even when I win the battle. I will get 150 to 230 BP for each hit - but in my mind not worth the insane casualties - but if I pick my target correctly - I can get 75 to 95 BP and not lose any units. I know when I am in the 95 to 105 BP range I am likely to lose a unit in every 3rd or 4th attack. Kind of a way for Funzio to Nerf PvP I suppose.

Again - I mention this because if Someone saw my inventory and posted "this guy has 910 Super Hornets - he must be a hacker" - you will know that there are legit ways to reach that count. I have also now build up about 120 of the BP Valor Boats. If I was careful and only attacked down - I could have easily spread my Valor over several other units and probably achieved high counts on all those units. In my case - I focus SO much on Air and Sea units - I haven't even unlocked the MLR? Valor unit some guys love so much and I'm level 154.

KoD isn't the only long winded (handed) poster in the Forums :)

albeezy
08-10-2012, 03:25 PM
Those who camp and don't do PvP very often are missing out on all the high valor payouts. I camped for about 5 or 6 weeks and only did PvE missions to avoid the insane casualty rates - but then when I started back up on PvP - like every 10th attack gave me 1200, 1400, 1500, 2,000 valor - I was literally banking 20,000 valor A DAY for a short period while my PvP valor missions caught up to my level.

Funny you should mention those pesky valor pre-level 100 mission payouts as they are the reason I leveled too fast! I went from level 80 to well over 100 in a week or so because I kept getting all those valor mission payouts.

I just thought it strange for someone to have 2700 valor units of which they bring about 1900 to battle. Seems like it would be impossible to keep those numbers up. I get about 10-12 valor per battle so it takes me about 100 battles to bank 1000 valor. Not too bad, but if I was bringing 1900 valor units to battle fore each of those 100 fights, and the other 100 units were indestructibles, ALL losses would be valor units.

Its all good. Have fun at the meet this weekend Mc!

Kiss Of Death
08-11-2012, 02:16 AM
We just added some increased cheat detection / prevention about an hour ago, FYI.Does selling my body just to buy gold and gems make me a cheat?

Kiss Of Death
08-11-2012, 02:18 AM
....KoD isn't the only long winded (handed) poster in the Forums :)Can't not respond, but hey big M at what point does valor hit those insane payouts? The most I've had in a pvp is in the high teens!

Can't give this my usual flair... Holding a sleeping baby

mickymacirl
08-11-2012, 04:29 AM
Does selling my body just to buy gold and gems make me a cheat?

How many gold units can you buy with 20 dollars and a used mint?

Q Raider
08-11-2012, 04:49 AM
Wanders through and tosses Micky a flak jacket.... :-)

mickymacirl
08-11-2012, 09:23 AM
Wanders through and tosses Micky a flak jacket.... :-)

haha that made me lol out loud!