***** Moments

[CRAWFORD]

Whats up dudes. My first thread. I must say, I've had some crappy moments on this game. The worst was trying to get that Bad Ass Pilot boss. I spent gold on that thing and I was constantly opening boxes non-stop to get the boss and I got 8 fricken golden Cups. What the hell!!! BS! I seriously got sooo many boxes open. I almost want to complain, but in their defense they don't promise you anything. I just feel that I spent sooo much gold openning this crap not to get anything.

There really should be a limit to the money and crappy units they give you. Because literally, I felt like there was a guy through the game watching me open the boxes and literally just giving bull**** instead of the prizes I deserved. I got so much money and crap units its just unbelievably unlucky. It sucks for Modern War because I'm probably never going to be purchasing Gold anymore after that stunt.

But seriously 8 Gold Cups? How? Okay 9? Sure, I could see not making it. But I opened way tooo many boxes just to get 8.

Anyhow, enough of my moaning. How about yours?

[Poopenshire]

Your about ten events too late. The complaining started on the furst one. The percentages are very low. To get 10 its 1.4% chance of getting. Thats each time you open successfully.

[CRAWFORD]

I've heard people say its very possible though. Even without gold and openning items early it seemed people were being pretty successful. But your saying there really isn't any stratedgy am I correct? Its just pretty much a 1.4 chance?

[Poopenshire]

The unoffical chances were posted in another. They are unoffical as they were not released by gree(d). They were taken directly from the code by other players. I myself have won 3 events with cash only. It really is chance.

[Poopenshire]

This is similar to Gree's legal problema in japan. Ita called gacha. Plenty of articles on it.

[Selfproclaimed]

Lmao. I was reading this and I know how you feel. There has been people that have spent over a few THOUSAND gold and still not get to 10. A lot of it really is a matter of luck, I wouldn't spend gold or at least much gold at all on crate events. Unless you have a thousand your willing to part with and go by mcdocs strategy. But since these crates events started, this last one was the only one I won and got to 10th, I had spent 60 gold though in total on it

[Jhenry02]

I agree, I got to 9 crates with cash only, 3 days left in event. The final 20+ crates opened netted cash, dragon warriors, assault cannons, but no cups. I find that a little odd. Seems like a Bait and Switch routine.

[CRAWFORD]

Alright. Thanks for your guys responses. Lol. And I guess I could see worse cases. I didn't spend as much so I'm not dieing of dissapointment. I'm glad I didn't spend that much.

[Corsair]

Yeah the 10 item events are similar in style and odds to a slot machine. First you have to get them to line up (open), then you get a different prize depending on what lined up. The difference is the odds for the key prize (the event item) change every time you get another one. So you'd have better luck with slots. I figure this type of event will eventually get regulated out of games like this when enough kids ring up $1000+ bills pushing the gold button.

And not to be picky, but the odds are not in "code" per se...at least not the game code...they are in plist files (roughly the Apple equivalent of XML) located on the web (or visible on a jailbroken device). It's a technicality...but one I've had to do presentations on and explain in great detail with much wailing and gnashing of teeth from skeptical customers. :)

[Poopenshire]

Isnt xml technically code? Hahaha probably gonna lose this one but i beleive its still call code.

[Lawyer]

Boxes are like women ... You can spend all your money on them but in the end there is no guarentee you will get lucky.

[Corsair]

Isnt xml technically code? Hahaha probably gonna lose this one but i beleive its still call code.
Hmm...probably the best answer it is depends on how you are using it, or maybe it depends on whether you are getting paid to write it. :) The way we use it in my work, both code and XML require a developer to design, but the code also requires a developer to maintain, while the XML can be maintained by a business analyst/SME. With Modern War, anyone can "hack" a plist but it takes quite an achievement to hack the actual game engine.


Boxes are like women ... You can spend all your money on them but in the end there is no guarentee you will get lucky.True, but there is a guarantee you will get screwed. :D :D

[Boom]

Alright. Thanks for your guys responses. Lol. And I guess I could see worse cases. I didn't spend as much so I'm not dieing of dissapointment. I'm glad I didn't spend that much.How much u spend ?

[manbeast]

The unoffical chances were posted in another. They are unoffical as they were not released by gree(d). They were taken directly from the code by other players. I myself have won 3 events with cash only. It really is chance.

link to that thread por favor?

[Corsair]

I'm not sure it was posted here...it was posted "elsewhere"...

[CRAWFORD]

How much u spend ?

200 gold when it was on sale. So I'm not sure how much.

[mickymacirl]

Hmm...probably the best answer it is depends on how you are using it, or maybe it depends on whether you are getting paid to write it. :) The way we use it in my work, both code and XML require a developer to design, but the code also requires a developer to maintain, while the XML can be maintained by a business analyst/SME. With Modern War, anyone can "hack" a plist but it takes quite an achievement to hack the actual game engine.

True, but there is a guarantee you will get screwed. :D :D

XML is basic a transport and data store, usually used in conjunction with HTML as a display. Most apps use it as a local data store, you will see the function that Khimsoo has on his brilliant Toolkit for Modern War App (Available on Apple Itunes Store btw, search Toolkit) for syncing, that's just copying Funzios current plist update, .i.e. when they add new content like LE units they update a server side read only to public plist files that are pushed to your iDevice.

This has all sorts of information that can shed some light on the math of the game, but it's pretty damn impossible to workout the real math of the game, like Corsair says.

We use it a hella lot in work too, because its cross platform and good for transmitting data between different platforms in an easy and workable format.

[Mackdaddy]

Lmao. I was reading this and I know how you feel. There has been people that have spent over a few THOUSAND gold and still not get to 10. A lot of it really is a matter of luck, I wouldn't spend gold or at least much gold at all on crate events. Unless you have a thousand your willing to part with and go by mcdocs strategy. But since these crates events started, this last one was the only one I won and got to 10th, I had spent 60 gold though in total on it

That is awesome Self, 60 gold! The players that have spent 500 + gold, wonder how they feel when they read that.

[Miner]

I've won 2 with minimal gold (45 bars or less). But I've also had events were I opened over 45 crates looking for the last item and never got it. This is the first I have heard about the "unofficial" odds on that last part, but I would have guessed it around 2-3% just based on experience.

I'm done chasing the 10th part with gold on these events unless the event boost is stronger sea units OR something related to the boss events again (like less damage from boss attacks).

[Poopenshire]

I won 3 events with no gold. its in my sign line

[Mackdaddy]

I won 3 events with no gold. its in my sign line

Looking back now, I wish I could say the same as you P. The first event, response unit, spent about 700 bars! Any event after that it's been at least less 140-600 bars. Never have won a free one yet. And when you see such low stats with the four units before 10, its not with it. No matter what the bonus.

[Poopenshire]

Never give up hope and don't blame the company like Flan. Some times its just good to try. Myself I am camping again so no more events for a while.

[bigflan]

Never give up hope and don't blame the company like Flan. Some times its just good to try. Myself I am camping again so no more events for a while.It is the companies fault though


Never the flans

[Ryans67]

I spent 4,000 or so gold on the last one, without receiving the tenth item. There really should be better odds for gold spenders, (besides the increased odds created by the guaranteed open). You get tired of spending money when after your done you feel you have been ripped off. That kind of feeling does not generate repeat customers.

[Tanner]

I spent 4,000 or so gold on the last one, without receiving the tenth item. There really should be better odds for gold spenders, (besides the increased odds created by the guaranteed open). You get tired of spending money when after your done you feel you have been ripped off. That kind of feeling does not generate repeat customers.

it amazes me that people continue to buy in spite of this though?

That kind of business generates gold bans. Are gold buyers still really not buying gold?

[Corsair]

I spent 4,000 or so gold on the last one, without receiving the tenth item. There really should be better odds for gold spenders, (besides the increased odds created by the guaranteed open). You get tired of spending money when after your done you feel you have been ripped off. That kind of feeling does not generate repeat customers.Oh I don't know...casinos are doing quite well...

It's gambling, pure and simple folks. Gree might disa-gree, but that's all it really is.

And with that said, it's laughable to think gold should get you better odds...everyone has to play from the same shoe. If you get tired from spending money you should probably spend less. :)

[Miner]

Are gold buyers still really not buying gold?

I'm done buying gold.

[CRAWFORD]

Wouldn't people be more inclined to buy gold if it was worth it?

I mean seriously. I can see that a company would rip you off like that if the game wasn't good and you know you would lose the players anyway. But the game is pretty good and its got a pretty loyal fan base. So why have a bunch of people play your game when most of them have learned their lessons about gold. I don't think the people who run the game are really thinking too smart about how much money they could make if their was a set benefit to gold.

I'm thinking about it and this game really rely's on the nubes to spend gold once or a few times until they go "CRAP!" and stop playing the game entirely, and the few people who have the money to spend on this game. Why rely on those people? Sooner or later, they'll stop playing, and their co-financer's will be gone. Isn't beneficial to have pretty much everyone rely on gold?

Anyhow. Those are just my thoughts. Again, not whinning too much, because I didn't get ripped of like a lot of people. But I am surprised this game doesn't take advantage of me and kind of go... "Your close!" or "Nice try! Here's something pretty good. You should try again. If you fail again you'll still get something. Its worth it! Spend your money!"

And no, these peasant common/like units are not worth it.

[el_gringo]

Whats up dudes. My first thread. I must say, I've had some crappy moments on this game. The worst was trying to get that Bad Ass Pilot boss. I spent gold on that thing and I was constantly opening boxes non-stop to get the boss and I got 8 fricken golden Cups. What the hell!!! BS! I seriously got sooo many boxes open. I almost want to complain, but in their defense they don't promise you anything. I just feel that I spent sooo much gold openning this crap not to get anything.

There really should be a limit to the money and crappy units they give you. Because literally, I felt like there was a guy through the game watching me open the boxes and literally just giving bull**** instead of the prizes I deserved. I got so much money and crap units its just unbelievably unlucky. It sucks for Modern War because I'm probably never going to be purchasing Gold anymore after that stunt.

But seriously 8 Gold Cups? How? Okay 9? Sure, I could see not making it. But I opened way tooo many boxes just to get 8.

Anyhow, enough of my moaning. How about yours?


Ha.

I've got 8 in every single event they've had I think. And one I spent 200 gold and set my alarm to wake me up hourly - still didn't make any difference compared to the events where I've not really bothered at all.

[el_gringo]

it amazes me that people continue to buy in spite of this though?

That kind of business generates gold bans. Are gold buyers still really not buying gold?

I might buy some gold for this event (the only prize I feel is a big enough game changer) but ONLY if I get to 9 - if you see my above post, the chances of that happening are non existent, I feel.

Other than for a unit that decreases upgrade times, I will not be putting any more money into gold on this game. I've probably only spent £200, but thats still £150 more than I've ever spent on a game before.

[TMaColo]

Every time an "epic enemey approaches," regardless of wether I fight or skip it, when I get back to the action (raiding/attacking) that initiated the cut scene, the results are nullified. I still lose the stamina/energy, but it never records the result on the confrontation (win or lose). Obviously it's a small glitch, but hate to waste the effort...

Also, if this n00b can ask for a little more assistance, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong here, any advice is appreciated:

# alliance: 90
# units: 2860
alliance attack:2056
alliance defense: 2845
income/hr: $49,482

[Jhenry02]

You only can use 2000 units at a time. Buy higher valued units like snipers and such and those numbers will increase.
Because if you have 2000 light gunners, your attack would be 2000 an defense 0.