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andymac106
07-28-2012, 07:24 PM
Well I know this is a touchy topic but here is my opinion: Make sure that no new people get it. I mean since nothing has been done to the people that already have it, at least set something up to make sure that no new people receive it. Just a short thought...

Poopenshire
07-28-2012, 07:50 PM
No just give it to everyone. That is the only way to make it fair.

albeezy
07-28-2012, 08:14 PM
No just give it to everyone. That is the only way to make it fair.
They did its called crime city. Lol

JMC
07-29-2012, 12:28 AM
They're not even acknowledging its existence. Doesn't help that some of the people that have it have now convinced themselves that their "superior strategy" led to their army becoming indestructible.

Brugernavn
07-29-2012, 01:04 AM
I LOVE the glitch...Still hate losing a Heavy Gunner once every 20 stamina point used, though.

Well, as long as I don't lose any Super Hornets, Rocket Trucks and Ballistic Missile Sub, I guess it's ok.

azy
07-29-2012, 03:29 AM
What Gree should do is create a mechanism by which one can select a piece of their inventory and kill it off. That would allow low casualty players to pay their war taxes and even the playing field.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 05:14 AM
I LOVE the glitch...Still hate losing a Heavy Gunner once every 20 stamina point used, though.

Well, as long as I don't lose any Super Hornets, Rocket Trucks and Ballistic Missile Sub, I guess it's ok.

How are your skill points distributes if i may ask.

Zoltarov
07-29-2012, 05:22 AM
How are your skill points distributes if i may ask.

I also hardly ever loose a unit when raiding. Only when I go for the real high stat players i loose units.
My skill points are concentrated in attack and defense, both topping my current level.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 05:26 AM
Andymac, how are you skill points assigned? please be as exact as possible including real numbers

Papa Tom
07-29-2012, 05:54 AM
I think the reason there has been so many units that decrease everyone's casualty rates is to even the playing field

Papa Tom
07-29-2012, 05:58 AM
What are the chances of one person getting this mythical glitch on two accounts because I know someone who is going through this now,but I would surgest it's more to do with point distribution and gold purchased
Just a thought

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 06:08 AM
We think so too at this point and are tryn
Ing to duplicate it.

Brugernavn
07-29-2012, 08:10 AM
How are your skill points distributes if i may ask.

My stats are as following:

Germany
lvl 67
Attack 85
Defense 67

Allies 403 (doesn't make a difference how many I have)

AA = 24951
AD = 27929

# of units = 3254

I'm not a gold player

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 08:20 AM
AO are you getting this. This is number with this type ditsrabution. Mickymac can shed light on this too but it looks to be a good lead as well.

Brugernavn
07-29-2012, 08:25 AM
Was this post for me, if so, I did not understand it:)

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 08:47 AM
No it wasnt. Multiple people are working on multiple leads. Thus far there are atleast 5 possibities people are looking at.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 12:35 PM
Just got my attack to 13 skill points
defense is 19 skill points.

at level 13. after the next leve up will have put on attack which would give 16 att and 19 def.

Thus far nothing, losing units like a seive at level 13. but did find someone with a few hundred thousand over vault.
took 110K away. felt good.

Brugernavn
07-29-2012, 01:19 PM
Too bad, poop.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 01:49 PM
After the next level up i will have both stats above my level. Anything else anyone can remwber they did or had happen before they stoppesosing unjts. I am still losing them like a sieve. 300 fight wins 4 lost fights and nothing changed yet.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Hit level 13. Att is 16 def is 19. 5 attacks one lost unit a sniper. Will keep updating.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 03:42 PM
5 more attacks. Lost 3 snipers and an avenger.

Jhenry02
07-29-2012, 04:12 PM
If I lost 3 snipers and an avenger I'd pee myself in happiness. I usually lose a 54,000 seal, a 150,000 leopard tank and a super hornet at 350 valor, per attack.

Level 121 Iraq
111 attack
111 defense
2000 units used.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 04:19 PM
This is my low level player at level 13. My high player is level 124. I lose million dollar units.

Agent Orange
07-29-2012, 04:27 PM
Some thinks to consider...

One or less defence skill points, try only having valour units going to battle.

andymac106
07-29-2012, 04:30 PM
Sorry for the late reply poop, but my skill points are: A: 93 D;155 E:1150 S: 35

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 04:40 PM
AO see what andymac has, he is a confirmed glitcher. Starting to get a pattern. Andy your level 123 still right.

Agent Orange
07-29-2012, 04:41 PM
Ok my test player is at 400 attack wins and 2 lost with zero unit losses. The two attackers that won have lost every return attack so far.

260 successful raids, zero losses and none failed.

andymac106
07-29-2012, 04:44 PM
AO see what andymac has, he is a confirmed glitcher. Starting to get a pattern. Andy your level 123 still right.

'Confirmed glitcher' makes me sound like a cheater xD Nope 121. And AO, just to put in perspective, during the battle event I did 1750 battles and lost no more than 16 units

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 04:48 PM
Sorry amdy, we know you didnt pick this. It just happened. You like alot of forum memebers that have it dont abuse it.

Agent Orange
07-29-2012, 04:49 PM
AO see what andymac has, he is a confirmed glitcher. Starting to get a pattern. Andy your level 123 still right.

Nope.... My other players have similar stats and are not glitchers. I think you need to broaden your data to include weighting of units, specifically valour and how they are going into battle.

On a different note, I added about 1200+ drones to my defence and have been getting reports that I am taking down a lot of hornts and elite ops. But no reports from confirmed glitchers yet.

andymac106
07-29-2012, 04:55 PM
Sorry amdy, we know you didnt pick this. It just happened. You like alot of forum memebers that have it dont abuse it.

wait what?? when you say it like that, it seems like I'm missing out on something!! lol that or I'm just being a nice guy. not sure which...

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 04:57 PM
I know the super high level player are not rocking valor armies. They cant and have att 160k and above. We might be on to something else here.

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 04:58 PM
wait what?? when you say it like that, it seems like I'm missing out on something!! lol that or I'm just being a nice guy. not sure which...

Yes you are missing out. Some very.high level players are farming large loot items because.they will not die. This creates effectively a gold army at no cost. It has caused a bit of problems at the high levels.

andymac106
07-29-2012, 05:02 PM
Yes you are missing out. Some very.high level players are farming large loot items because.they will not die. This creates effectively a gold army at no cost. It has caused a bit of problems at the high levels.

....thats cool.... i have one transport raider and that is all the boss loot that i have. I was under the assumption that they werent the energy spent. Hmmm guess i was wrong

Poopenshire
07-29-2012, 05:07 PM
There are other ones that drop more frequent like the brigiand lightning. Its a 99 att amd 80 def. Get a couple hundred of them and your dping good. I myself have 60. But i am not attacking right now, infact when i fought you in FFN i lost one.

Ranger4Life
07-29-2012, 05:08 PM
....thats cool.... i have one transport raider and that is all the boss loot that i have. I was under the assumption that they werent the energy spent. Hmmm guess i was wrong

If you don't have to worry about losing them, then they are MUCH more valuable.

andymac106
07-29-2012, 05:15 PM
There are other ones that drop more frequent like the brigiand lightning. Its a 99 att amd 80 def. Get a couple hundred of them and your dping good. I myself have 60. But i am not attacking right now, infact when i fought you in FFN i lost one.

I have about 20 of those. I'm going to go get more eventually but I'm camping now and building up my economy. 200K IPH increase in 3 levels. Would have been only 1 but the boss and crate events are too tempting. I'm going to go pick up a few of those boss loots now! Not like 400 but 4 is a good start

JMC
07-29-2012, 09:23 PM
What are you guys testing with the skill point distribution? Andymac's isn't irregular or anything. I myself have 2500 energy so i don't have that many skill points in attack/defence in comparison to my level, but there are many people that have very low amounts of energy with lots of points in attk/def. None of which have the glitch.

kingoftwilight1969
04-04-2013, 11:11 PM
So I guess the only thing to do is missions now.. Since I cant attack anyone without losing 4 units per attack and just get weaker and weaker... Lost 500 attack and def. today before I realized WTF I attack win but lose more than I won I raid samething same thing... Cant get stronger cant upgrade... SO THERES NO POINT PLAYING ANYMORE!!! CANT GET MY GOLD EITHER!!! Its a good thing I only started playing bout 3 weeks ago or I would really be pissed... Im pissed as it is I was just getting into it just joined a faction and was looking forward to it...Same dam thing with mafia wars i even spent money on that game... STUPID ME... ZYNGA AND GREED AND ANY OTHER COMPANIES THAT PUT OUT GAMES THAT DONT WORK BUT TAKE YOUR HARD EARNED CASH SOULD BE SUED FOR STRESS!!! MONKEYS COULD MAKE A GAME THAT DOESNT WORK TOO!!! HELL THEY WENT TO SPACE... LOL

PsychoGrunt
Level 52
Att.10,000+
Def.17,000+
ID. 663 667 093 Feel free to add me if you like...

Jhenry02
04-05-2013, 12:06 AM
If it helps
I don't have the glitch, I always figured I had the opposite.
But
level 189
Like 55k/75k
182 each attack and defense
I have 175ish allies.

I had to drop allies during China because I went from 4200 units to 1800 in one battle.
I bring like 700 units to battle, about 400 of which are indestructibles.

I lose a strike eagle about every 10th attack.
I lose a super hornet about every 20 attacks.
I lose a stealth frigate about every 15 attacks.
And I lose one of the 800 valor boats about every 40 attacks.

Now I'm no computer guy, freakin far from it. I'm a redneck luddite most of the time.

But it seems to me that the algorithm for battles is completely off base.
Like hypothetically, say your Poopenshire. You have maybe 100k in real real high end indestructibles; prizes from 4 straight WD wins. And you have another 50k of assorted cash and valor units. Now if Poopenshire with his 150k (just call it guesstimations) goes up against an opponent of 75k; he can and will lose units. Even if his 100k in indestrucibles are 1000 stat points each and the remaining 50k are all like 40/40 random bombers. He will lose his bombers when his indestrucibles alone should in theory be enough to take down his opponent.

Now my logic on this is backwards because I'm basing it off of what would happen in real life. If you have an m1 Abrams with titanium struts housed in a cadmium/rhodium shell; that can withstand a 600 kiloton fart bomb from Trebekistan. Why would you roll out a fat guy like me in crutches ahead of the impervious tank?

Makes no sense to me. It seems that if I have 60k stats and 40k is indestructible and can beat my opponents 30k, why should I lose units? In fact why am I losing the battle at all? Because I am still seeing losses where their defense scores are drastically lower than my attack score. And I'm fairly certain a player 50 level below me isn't rocking 180 attack stat points.

I hope this offers insight, ideas, or at least information.

-Jason

BADMARKX
04-05-2013, 12:28 AM
If it helps
I don't have the glitch, I always figured I had the opposite.
But
level 189
Like 55k/75k
182 each attack and defense
I have 175ish allies.

I had to drop allies during China because I went from 4200 units to 1800 in one battle.
I bring like 700 units to battle, about 400 of which are indestructibles.


Wow Jhenry02. Although I've paid attention to how many indestructible units I have 300+, dropping allies so most of your army is indestructible is a great idea :-)
Something ELSE to consider if you know what I mean....

psxnitro
04-05-2013, 12:35 AM
lol, didn't realize skill points might actually matter in MW. I'm lvl 32 with 93 skill points un-allocated

Jhenry02
04-05-2013, 01:05 AM
2 things.
1. mxnitro, I'm not convinced they do anything. Supposedly they work in favor of the randomized generator that is used when battle stats are figured.

2. Poop, you know that wasn't meant to out your statistics; honestly don't know them off the top of my head. I was just trying to use easy to understand numbers. And it wasn't meant to be personally derogatory just used you as an example because you have all your faction accomplishments in your signature. So it's not a big secret you have a buttload of good indestructibles.

-J

mcarri04
04-06-2013, 08:05 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/gree-international-inc-correct-compensate-fully-refund-gold-purchasers?utm_campaign=share_button_chat&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

Please pass along and share

Alo
04-09-2013, 06:17 AM
No just give it to everyone. That is the only way to make it fair.

well all no-noers should go to yes-yes from now and vice versa for a year, that should be fair enough. I'm one of the yes-yes guy losing 2-8 units every 3 raids (its only less if rival is 2-4x weaker than me).