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sexkitteh
07-25-2012, 10:05 AM
Would anyone - or does anyone - have a spare device that is not running CC? or is but don't care?

I think someone (I would do it, but I only got 1 device) should set up an account (preferably on android, as it seems to be the easiest to hack) and hack the game and then report "yourself" (obviously be as discrete about this as possible) and see how your hacker account is dealt with and how long it takes and then report back to the forum...

What say you?

Preferably a "legit" forum member do this...

If no one is up for the task... I'll go on craigslist and buy a used android phone and do it... but it will be in a couple of months...

I think this will put many doubting members to ease because I strongly believe Funzio WILL do something about it *knock on wood*

If you don't want to disclose yourself, you can PM me and I'll post the results.

Babytway
07-25-2012, 10:11 AM
i read in a MW thread last night that some people already do this and report the hack or glitch and it never gets fixed

Boom
07-25-2012, 10:12 AM
"Funzio I'm a hacker ban me" Sincerely, (whoever does it) "We are currently investigating. Thanks for the info." Sincerely, (Whoever replies from support)

sexkitteh
07-25-2012, 10:16 AM
i read in a MW thread last night that some people already do this and report the hack or glitch and it never gets fixed

Well.... that's kind of discouraging...


"Funzio I'm a hacker ban me" Sincerely, (whoever does it) "We are currently investigating. Thanks for the info." Sincerely, (Whoever replies from support)

LMFAO!!!

"We will look into you, but I'm sorry, we can not let you know what actions we will be taking against you"

Sincerely, Funzio Team :rolleyes:

Babytway
07-25-2012, 10:18 AM
i was just trying to find the thread again but i dont remember where it was

hinofwars
07-25-2012, 10:18 AM
LMFAO!!!

"We will look into you, but I'm sorry, we can not let you know what actions we will be taking against you"

Sincerely, Funzio Team :rolleyes:

"We have looked at your account, seems legit and case closed."

Sincerely, Funzio Team

Boom
07-25-2012, 10:20 AM
"We have looked at your account, seems legit and case closed."

Sincerely, Funzio TeamLmao.......

Boom
07-25-2012, 10:22 AM
"We have looked at your account, seems legit and case closed."

Sincerely, Funzio Team"You've just bought a lot of gold and in game cash." Sincerely, Funzio team

sexkitteh
07-25-2012, 10:23 AM
"We have looked at your account, seems legit and case closed."

Sincerely, Funzio Team

LMFAO!

Ohhhh.... this is not the direction I expecting for this thread... I can see a big B swinging my way :rolleyes:

Boom
07-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Who cares. Laughs are better!

iteachem
07-25-2012, 10:40 AM
My first thought is that isn't this something funzio should currently be doing. What you are essentially describing is making yourself a white (or is it grey) hat hacker for the game. Given the recent posts linking to hacking sites, I can't imagine funzio not having some kind of quality control in place that is looking for these.....

I would hope this is the case...

Gaming Will
07-25-2012, 11:08 AM
To truly test the theory... One would need to be a moderate gold spender AND hack/cheat/glitch. I am fairly certain the free players that have hacked/cheated/glitches can be easily dealt with. However when real money is involved there is a slippery slope.

mxz
07-25-2012, 11:18 AM
To truly test the theory... One would need to be a moderate gold spender AND hack/cheat/glitch. I am fairly certain the free players that have hacked/cheated/glitches can be easily dealt with. However when real money is involved there is a slippery slope.There's even more variables than that, I'm afraid. There's differing types of cheats (money, items, time hacks), and there are probably varying ways to do these. Some may be easier to detect than others and/or be dealt with differently.

Mikecore
07-25-2012, 11:31 AM
Speaking for cheaters, the one that I have reported went down...

BDouble
07-25-2012, 11:45 AM
i'm not a hacker. there was an error in my favour when i bought a building. now i have two constructing at the same time, which is an error too. i got a free office building worth 24 million lol

more details in this thread i made earlier:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37710-Two-buildings-constructing-at-the-same-time

i'll report it to funzio after they have completed construction on friday. lets see what they do.

Paulio
07-25-2012, 11:46 AM
Speaking for cheaters, the one that I have reported went down...

Nice! Good to hear that stuff

iteachem
07-25-2012, 12:11 PM
i'm not a hacker. there was an error in my favour when i bought a building. now i have two constructing at the same time, which is an error too. i got a free office building worth 24 million lol

more details in this thread i made earlier:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37710-Two-buildings-constructing-at-the-same-time

i'll report it to funzio after they have completed construction on friday. lets see what they do.

I appreciate your integrity

G Wiz
07-25-2012, 12:18 PM
It's hard to say where th lines are drawn sometimes because of the 0% transparency that covers this area of support. however, I'm pretty sure GREE has their own internal set of hackers that they can monitor, or atleast thats what I would have in my company.

Boom
07-25-2012, 12:21 PM
What's a game without hackers/cheaters




Someone's gonna say "A good one" I bet..

Rodimus
07-25-2012, 01:28 PM
What's a game without hackers/cheaters




Someone's gonna say "A good one" I bet..

One game comes to mind, Chess

jobadass
07-25-2012, 02:18 PM
I can't be the only one who feels like a complete fool for thinking that support would have actually taken action against the cheaters we've reported.
The other night, I messaged one of the cheaters I've reported and told him I was tired of playing the game right and wanted to start cheating. I asked him to please tell me how he was pulling off the RP cheat...he hasn't replied nor removed me from his mafia.
Guess he's too busy robbing and attacking.

enahs1
07-25-2012, 02:28 PM
Jobadass, want me to try to find the cheat as well to report it

jobadass
07-25-2012, 02:39 PM
Jobadass, want me to try to find the cheat as well to report itI really don't see the use. I'm convinced that nothing will be done. Gree has moved on from this game and just doesn't care anymore. They will continue to give us the same, lame events until people stop spending money, and then the events will stop.

Everything has a life-span and CC is at the end of it.

sexkitteh
07-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Jobadass, want me to try to find the cheat as well to report it

I know you are young and you think Funzio and Gree and the staff are complete morons who have no idea what google is or how to type CC Cheats/hacks...

But I'm sure they are aware of some of the exploits... I don't think they need you sending them links on how to cheat...

In fact, I'm sure they are TRYING to get ahead of the "game" and trying to find ways to prevent it from getting hacked...

Unfortunately it's not that easy... and I'm sure when they first started out they didn't foresee this happening. And by this I mean 2 things:

The game getting so popular that people would actually drop thousands into a game and that consequently people would go out of their way to hack the game...

Not EVERY game has a hack... only games worth hacking... I guess they didn't foresee their game being one worth hacking on such a large scale...

I think the only way to solve the issue is by having the game reside 100% on a server. But with that comes other problems... like multiple mirrored server in multiple locations in case a server goes down, band width efficiency, packet transfer efficiency etc etc etc......

They would have to and probably are I imagine, recreating the game.

UNLESS!!!! They are not worrying to much about THIS game and are working on a NEW game that will be more hack proof...

anyways... a small input on what I think is going on... If I write everything in my head, I might as well right a book and sell it...

Plux
07-25-2012, 04:39 PM
Google will be the ones who deal with your phone with a discrete operating system disable update.

SeqWins
07-25-2012, 04:41 PM
i read in a MW thread last night that some people already do this and report the hack or glitch and it never gets fixed

Hey you should stop by MW more often. :)

ratpack499
07-25-2012, 05:06 PM
@enahs1

Why u in every cheat thread?

NightDragon
07-25-2012, 05:10 PM
@enahs1

Why u in every cheat thread?

Why are you looking at every cheat thread? 

Babytway
07-25-2012, 07:12 PM
Hey you should stop by MW more often. :)

why is there good stuff going on in there. i only stopped by to find out more about the epic boss event and then read a few threads that caught my eye.

Swearengen
07-26-2012, 06:59 AM
Nice! Good to hear that stuff

Back for a reality check i r eported an obvious cheater 1 week ago (granted that is not allot of time), got the automatic response and found him today doing just fine.

Of course he could be ok right...?

lvl 113
Full combat gear x725
Military Body Armor x1000+
Blast shield x944
Blash guard helmet x326
Tactical vest x308
Naplam x508
Chain whips x1000+
Katana x1000+
Chaingun x800
Sawn off shotgun 1000+
Dual Machine gun x404
Flame Thrower x620
Armored limo x1001
Big Rig x116
Yacht x30
Mercedes x675
Monster trucks x100
City Bus x613
Hummers x609
Bull Dozer x 1000+
Yamaha Race bikes x625

enahs1
07-28-2012, 09:16 PM
Should I try to do this?

Steve0
07-28-2012, 09:23 PM
Back for a reality check i r eported an obvious cheater 1 week ago (granted that is not allot of time), got the automatic response and found him today doing just fine.

Of course he could be ok right...?

lvl 113
Full combat gear x725
Military Body Armor x1000+
Blast shield x944
Blash guard helmet x326
Tactical vest x308
Naplam x508
Chain whips x1000+
Katana x1000+
Chaingun x800
Sawn off shotgun 1000+
Dual Machine gun x404
Flame Thrower x620
Armored limo x1001
Big Rig x116
Yacht x30
Mercedes x675
Monster trucks x100
City Bus x613
Hummers x609
Bull Dozer x 1000+
Yamaha Race bikes x625
Glad to see he knows the game better than the rest of us. People at level 200 arnt that good and he did it at 113.

Steve0
07-28-2012, 09:26 PM
Should I try to do this? Only if you want to win the game. otherwise there is no point on trying some one else will find away to cheat. Play the game as it is and report and move on. If you are lucky milk them like its going out of style.

enahs1
07-28-2012, 09:33 PM
Only if you want to win the game. otherwise there is no point on trying some one else will find away to cheat. Play the game as it is and report and move on. If you are lucky milk them like its going out of style.
No, no, and no!
Should I go on my iPod, find a hack, do it, and then report myself

Sasha54
07-28-2012, 09:38 PM
No, no, and no!
Should I go on my iPod, find a hack, do it, and then report myself

What you should do is collect on time......
Just got your NC honey.......😃😃

Steve0
07-28-2012, 09:40 PM
I still say no, then you will know how to cheat. then the tempting will be there knocking at the door.

iteachem
07-28-2012, 09:42 PM
What you should do is collect on time......
Just got your NC honey.......😃😃

Lol..nice job Sasha

enahs1
07-28-2012, 09:42 PM
I don't care Sasha. This game is so broken. I just looked up for a hack to test Sexkitteh theory. Found one like a charm. Now to do it and send support an email. Should I follow through?

Steve0, just for this reason, I found the most obvious cheat in the world, the respect and scratcher cheat.

Steve0
07-28-2012, 09:52 PM
Yeah I read some stuff but dont want to discuss on here, Its easy.

joaquim
07-28-2012, 09:54 PM
Yeah I read some stuff but dont want to discuss on here, Its easy.

If you discuss it on here Mark will see it and know about the hack so he'll be able to patch it so please explain.

enahs1
07-28-2012, 09:55 PM
I did it. I sent the email to Funzio and reported myself and the hack. Let's see how long it takes. Wish me luck.

Day 1: Sent an email to Funzio and received the automated message.

If you don't believe me, check out the account for yourself


PS: Don't hold this against me, I would never use this exploit on my main account or my camping account.
Thanks for the idea Sexkitteh

Edit: this all happened today

Steve0
07-28-2012, 09:57 PM
added you
..........

enahs1
07-28-2012, 10:00 PM
Accepted. The name is Alex, level 12

Steve0
07-28-2012, 10:01 PM
ok thanks..............

joaquim
07-28-2012, 10:02 PM
Request sent.

Steve0
07-28-2012, 10:04 PM
Very nice ...... yeah would like to see whow long it will take.

TonySpaghetti
07-28-2012, 10:05 PM
That's a lot of Crime Lords. Lol Did you have to have a jail broken device to do that?

enahs1
07-28-2012, 10:07 PM
Yup, absinthe 2.0 on a 5.1.1 iPod touch 4g

TonySpaghetti
07-28-2012, 10:09 PM
I'll just stick to the absinthe in my cupboard. Haha

Steve0
07-28-2012, 10:11 PM
My guess its going to get shut down faster than normal beacuse CCM will be reading this thread and make things happen alot faster.

enahs1
07-28-2012, 10:15 PM
Mafia code is down... Now he can't speed it up.

enahs1
07-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Haha, now check my account

TonySpaghetti
07-28-2012, 10:32 PM
Your stats seem to be stuck at 19,000 though even though you have way more weapons.

joaquim
07-28-2012, 10:34 PM
101 mil on hand! Congratulations on legitely winning the scratcher prize! LOL

NightDragon
07-28-2012, 10:37 PM
Your stats seem to be stuck at 19,000 though even though you have way more weapons.
It's because he doesn't have enough mafia members yet..... I would mess with some no bankers if I was him xD

TonySpaghetti
07-28-2012, 11:11 PM
I have to say that I find it odd that Funzio don't have any automated scans of this kind of thing. They shouldn't have to rely on people to report stuff like this.

enahs1
07-28-2012, 11:47 PM
My stats are 4 million attack and 4 million defense now :p
This game is broken

Steve0
07-28-2012, 11:49 PM
what was the time stamp on the ticket.

enahs1
07-29-2012, 12:34 AM
Jul 28 20:09 (PDT):
Describe the issue here...
I took advantage of an exploit, please ban me.
Just check my inventory. Thanks

dudeman
07-29-2012, 12:21 PM
Jul 28 20:09 (PDT):
Describe the issue here...
I took advantage of an exploit, please ban me.
Just check my inventory. Thanks

Find the gold hack half the leader board is using. Lol!

TRAZ
07-29-2012, 12:45 PM
My stats are 4 million attack and 4 million defense now :p
This game is broken

Holy cow! LOL...crazy.

TonySpaghetti
07-29-2012, 01:23 PM
I'm thinking it probably would have been better for someone to report you instead of reporting yourself.

joaquim
07-29-2012, 01:27 PM
I'm thinking it probably would have been better for someone to report you instead of reporting yourself.

You're probably right. I keep thinking that support would think that he's just joking around.

Auxilium
07-29-2012, 01:31 PM
Maybe it's even better to tell them you are finding exploits and with checking your actions they mind find a way to get more people. Right now, a instant ban won't help a thing.

Maybe an idea to create a Crime City cheat crew who are registered and allowed to find and use exploits for the good of the rest. Offcourse not playing with cheats, just finding and fixing them.

enahs1
07-29-2012, 02:32 PM
Maybe it's even better to tell them you are finding exploits and with checking your actions they mind find a way to get more people. Right now, a instant ban won't help a thing.

Maybe an idea to create a Crime City cheat crew who are registered and allowed to find and use exploits for the good of the rest. Offcourse not playing with cheats, just finding and fixing them.
This is a great idea! I want to be head leader.

Auxilium
07-29-2012, 02:38 PM
This is a great idea! I want to be head leader.
I think your head is big enough for that task.

Second Comming
07-29-2012, 06:53 PM
Can you post the mafia code so we can all add the acc to see what yuve done. Would like to know how long you stay around :)

enahs1
07-29-2012, 07:04 PM
536 269 743
This will be up for a couple minutes. Add it quickly

TRAZ
07-29-2012, 07:08 PM
I've got to see this! Added.

Tomatoneverdie
07-29-2012, 09:31 PM
4 mil Att/Def, I'm so excited I need to see this too!!

iteachem
07-29-2012, 09:44 PM
536 269 743
This will be up for a couple minutes. Add it quickly

Why only for a couple of minutes...if you are legitimately helping funzio by hacking the game should it matter

enahs1
07-29-2012, 11:31 PM
If you payed attention to any of the thread. I do not want the process to be sped up.
Good night!

iteachem
07-29-2012, 11:46 PM
If you payed attention to any of the thread. I do not want the process to be sped up.
Good night!

Oh trust me I paid attention to the entire thread...And I want the process as fast to happen as fast as possible. I don't think you deserve any kind of kudos for hacking the game.

enahs1
07-29-2012, 11:54 PM
I don't want kudos. And I want to see how long it takes for them to respond.

iteachem
07-30-2012, 12:10 AM
I don't want kudos. And I want to see how long it takes for them to respond.

If all you wanted was to see how long it takes why publicize your cheating... You could have easily done this and reported this to funzio without all of the publicity...Sorry enahs, but IMO its cheating plain and simple...

I will not comment further in this thread.

enahs1
07-30-2012, 12:19 AM
Your forgetting all of us want to know what the hell they do to cheaters.

Capt. Mo
07-30-2012, 12:35 AM
Wouldn't it make sense to check the leaderboard against the purchase records? It would be a start anyway.

k0de
07-30-2012, 12:36 AM
Sorry enahs, but IMO its cheating plain and simple...

Indeed. Blatant cheatery, I say! The kind that should be dealt with swiftly and forcefully. Such thing has no place in a game like this and cannot be permitted under any circumstances, and certainly must never be seen to be condoned.

...and yet still the clock is running. A likely explanation is that the ticket in question is on hold while the development team investigates to see if there is any way to exploit the situation in a way that could generate delicious profit.

youj
07-30-2012, 01:04 AM
You guys do know that if you are banned, your account still exist in the server. It's just that you can't login and you would not appear on the battle lists.

Some players you guys reported may already been banned, but you still can travel to their hood and look at their account.

enahs1
07-30-2012, 07:08 AM
Alright, it took 34 hours for them to ban my account. It is a bit slow, but it was a good result. Nice job Funzio

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/enahs1237/d7329737.jpg

ColdMaffiaBaroness
07-30-2012, 07:22 AM
Alright, it took 34 hours for them to ban my account. It is a bit slow, but it was a good result. Nice job Funzio



Shane,

Given you have already been accused of being a hacker in another thread (you were posting on hacker forum w same name) you were called out on it, you admitted you were looking to cheat but diddnt do it. Was this a good idea? Not sure you would be the one to do this?

Now you show up and have hacked it with supposed good intentions. If I recall this was your defense the last time as well. You stated that you were looking for hacks to pass on to CCM.

Personally, just looks like your a hacker/ cheater to me.

enahs1
07-30-2012, 07:29 AM
Shane,

Given you have already been accused of being a hacker in another thread (you were posting on hacker forum w same name) you were called out on it, you admitted you were looking to cheat but diddnt do it. Was this a good idea? Not sure you would be the one to do this?

Now you show up and have hacked it with supposed good intentions. If I recall this was your defense the last time as well. You stated that you were looking for hacks to pass on to CCM.

Personally, just looks like your a hacker/ cheater to me.
I could care less what you think. I reported the hack, if you visit the forum I found it from, they are saying it does not work. So if I didnt do this, you would be facing people with 100s of top scratcher items. And besides the fact, even though I did hack for a test on my camping account, I did not attack anyone or rob anyone, I bothered no one.
Good day

Auxilium
07-30-2012, 09:54 AM
Hacking the game is like taking candy from a kid.. But i also see that many get banned within a couple of days. If a real player of this game thinks he might go into hacking, he faces a ban of his account wich means all his time and effort is lost. The people who exually hack are probably just starters and don't mind if they get banned. The fun runs out after a while with this.

Some hack it in a way you can't really know if they hack, but i think funzio is still tracking people down who have a suspicous way of playing. So even those people probably get banned anyway.

TRAZ
07-30-2012, 09:56 AM
Well done to Gree for taking care of business. Well done enahs1 for sending in the report to test the system.

Sasha54
07-30-2012, 10:00 AM
I could care less what you think. I reported the hack, if you visit the forum I found it from, they are saying it does not work. So if I didnt do this, you would be facing people with 100s of top scratcher items. And besides the fact, even though I did hack for a test on my camping account, I did not attack anyone or rob anyone, I bothered no one.
Good day

Nicely put .........

Second Comming
07-30-2012, 10:24 AM
Nice testing, I think I would of prefferd if you did it in secret then posted the screenies/results just incase CCM was lurking this thread and pushed the ban through speedily. Still, nice to know vigilante justice was done :)

silverbackspur
07-30-2012, 11:51 AM
Nice testing, I think I would of prefferd if you did it in secret then posted the screenies/results just incase CCM was lurking this thread and pushed the ban through speedily. Still, nice to know vigilante justice was done :)

I agree with this, should have been done in secret.

Crime City Mark
07-30-2012, 06:01 PM
This should not have been done publicly on the forums.

sez
07-30-2012, 06:07 PM
This is not a personal attack but there are so many MASSIVE cheaters right now CCMARK. Does it really matter? You got players running around with 1 million in stats and 20 of the current end event item!

Steve0
07-30-2012, 06:14 PM
This should open there eyes on what us true players are frustrated about. Free players and gold players, all of us have put some serious time and investment into this game.

M00nsh1n3
07-30-2012, 06:28 PM
Well I'm done playing cc, I tried a hack that took 5 mins to complete and allowed me to get 2 each of scratcher items, basically every time I complete a job it gives me one of the top items, how can this not be patched? I definetly feel like I wasted a couple of months playing the game the right way.

sez
07-30-2012, 06:34 PM
Yea I finally did a lil research earlier today and found the hacks, I also found where E got the hack from because he posted under the same name. Also these hackers don't even care, the use a UID blocker so when Gree bans there account they're able to create another player right away and do it all again.

fuzzy
07-30-2012, 06:43 PM
This should not have been done publicly on the forums.

The this thread has been open for 5 days where was the community manager to lock the thread 5 days ago when it was started?

Steve0
07-30-2012, 06:45 PM
Or deleted like many others.

TruthHurts
07-30-2012, 07:18 PM
Shane,

Given you have already been accused of being a hacker in another thread (you were posting on hacker forum w same name) you were called out on it, you admitted you were looking to cheat but diddnt do it. Was this a good idea? Not sure you would be the one to do this?

Now you show up and have hacked it with supposed good intentions. If I recall this was your defense the last time as well. You stated that you were looking for hacks to pass on to CCM.

Personally, just looks like your a hacker/ cheater to me.

Guy goes outta is way to test a theory and get us players an answer and this is the thanks he gets? Wow, you're sweet.

617Pats
07-30-2012, 08:08 PM
You guys do know that if you are banned, your account still exist in the server. It's just that you can't login and you would not appear on the battle lists.

Some players you guys reported may already been banned, but you still can travel to their hood and look at their account.

True. But if you keep seeing their stats increase then you know they were still playing and cheating. I have observed this with several reported hackers (who I added to my mafia to monitor).

Dreno33
07-30-2012, 08:44 PM
"Funzio I'm a hacker ban me" Sincerely, (whoever does it) "We are currently investigating. Thanks for the info." Sincerely, (Whoever replies from support)

"im a hacker ban me"
"anything is possible"

Steve0
07-30-2012, 08:53 PM
Anyone notice that enahs1 was banned.

Dakid
07-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Mark's right this should not have been handled publicly for a number of reasons. we have to remember that we are not just talking to a few players in a small room, this is a public forum. I lurked for months before i registered in the forum and im sure im not the only one.

Trust me im as disappointed by the cheater issue and a few other changes to the game as anyone else. However, it's a real herp derp to go onto the game's moderated forum and discuss your own violations of tos .... complain about cheaters, discuss them, but don't become one in the name of "testing" funzio, they have better things to do. You really want to get involved make a ticket... <sprays on some flame retardant> the test isn't even valid btw because it was discussed so it was all just a big waste of everyone's time and energy...

Sasha54
07-31-2012, 06:45 AM
Of course he's banned!
He walked a fine line but was up front about it and put it out there - so that will result in a ban.

However if you just cheat, hack, troll or do any other bothersome things that everyone has been complaining about for months - then NO ban for you - just business as usual.

Rodimus
07-31-2012, 06:48 AM
Wow! He seriously wanted to be the fall guy.

Illuminati
07-31-2012, 07:44 AM
Mark's right this should not have been handled publicly for a number of reasons. we have to remember that we are not just talking to a few players in a small room, this is a public forum. I lurked for months before i registered in the forum and im sure im not the only one.

Trust me im as disappointed by the cheater issue and a few other changes to the game as anyone else. However, it's a real herp derp to go onto the game's moderated forum and discuss your own violations of tos .... complain about cheaters, discuss them, but don't become one in the name of "testing" funzio, they have better things to do. You really want to get involved make a ticket... <sprays on some flame retardant> the test isn't even valid btw because it was discussed so it was all just a big waste of everyone's time and energy...

They (Funzio/Gree) have better things to do? Really? Like what? Sit back and collect money while ignoring the complaints and suggestions of the playerbase regarding the game? Cheating/hacking isn't some new and recent phenomenon, it's been going on for as long as I can remember. Funzio/Gree asks the players to do THEIR job for them by reporting cheaters. But at the same time, what exactly has Funzio/Gree done to curb/stop it? It's not like these people are using secret cheats/hacks...they can be widely found on the internet. I don't know about you, but if I were Funzio/Gree and saw rampant cheating and complaints from the legit players, I would investigate and work on changing the code/programming of the game to patch whatever holes there are that the cheaters are exploiting.

In the mean time, I would at least acknowledge the problem and tell the legit playerbase that they're working on fixing the problem. So much for more open communication huh? The people who keep coming to the defense of Funzio/Gree are those who probably have real money invested in the game, and as such, are trying to justify their spending on a mobile game.

Boom
07-31-2012, 08:25 AM
Theres a new cheater every minute. One gets banned once a week.. (or longer)

sexkitteh
07-31-2012, 08:34 AM
This should not have been done publicly on the forums.

Sorry Mark - this was my idea... I was trying to help moral a bit... everyone kept complaining that hackers don't get dealt with... I think clearly we can see now that they do....

I personally feel a lot better now reporting the cheaters knowing maybe it's not a waste of time and I think many will agree...

EDIT: dakid you are a retard... I believe this was an excellent test...

Now EVERYONE knows the consequences to cheating... cheaters and players...

Auxilium
07-31-2012, 09:46 AM
I hope it's only a forum ban for enahs1 wich is temporary..

ColdMaffiaBaroness
07-31-2012, 10:53 AM
For some who weren't here when Shane made clear his first attempt at cheating....

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37099-Philo-Beddoe-s-getting-to-know-the-forum-thread-D/page5

Good riddance there is no honor in it regardless of motive and doing it publicly tested nothing but how FAST they can respond when they want to, certainly not real world conditions.

TonySpaghetti
07-31-2012, 11:43 AM
doing it publicly tested nothing but how FAST they can respond when they want to, certainly not real world conditions.

I agree that it wasn't a valid test. One thing that it did do was burst my "The world's an awesome place and nobody cheats in this game" bubble. How naive of me. The leader board also helped prove that too. I can accept that people might be spending real money on buying gold (I myself have done it) but when you see people with almost 200 diamond rings, it changes things. They won't be getting any more of my money, that's for sure.

Dakid
07-31-2012, 01:36 PM
Sorry Mark - this was my idea... I was trying to help moral a bit... everyone kept complaining that hackers don't get dealt with... I think clearly we can see now that they do....

I personally feel a lot better now reporting the cheaters knowing maybe it's not a waste of time and I think many will agree...

EDIT: dakid you are a retard... I believe this was an excellent test...

Now EVERYONE knows the consequences to cheating... cheaters and players...

if i have to explain to you why it's invalid, im not sure it's worth it...it should be kinda obvious to anyone who took 7th grade science, if you were in Iteachem's class im sure you would know why it's invalid ;). teach you wanna come in and school the forum on why this "experiment/test" is invalid?

cheating and hacking in all games will never be completely resolved. No matter what funzio does you will still find cheaters (hopefully much less than what we see currently which is certainly a legitimate problem) and if you want to help, do what they asked (which was made very clear in other threads). If you really can't deal with it try playing a less popular game there will be less hacking there. The success of the game is the reason for all the energy invested in producing hacks. BTW do you realize by going to the websites that post the hacks/cheats etc...doing research or whatever anyone wants to call it you are only contributing to the problem.

Funzio and Gree are definetly out to make money (aka a living, hopefully a nice one since Funzio has been such a success), welcome to the business world. Thats why they WOULD work on this, people are essentially stealing and devalueing their product. Just because we can find cheats doesn't mean they don't work on it, be reasonable here. game forums are notorious for incessant complaining and some in this group are no different, it's to be expected. It's also part of the reason the forums exist for troubleshooting and feedback, however it doesn't take a genius to realize how dumb this was...

Can you imagine if you called 911 saying you were being robbed and then when they showed up you go, "oh just kidding, i was just testing your response time, nice job you passed my test". QC issues are dealt with discretely for reasons that should be obvious with a little thought...

mxz
07-31-2012, 01:45 PM
BTW do you realize by going to the websites that post the hacks/cheats etc...doing research or whatever anyone wants to call it you are only contributing to the problem.I agree with everything you said except this. It's similar to saying Symantec, McAfee or people at home trying to figure out the best way to protect their computers are contributing to Windows virii and bugs - its a flawed argument based on two related, but ultimately independent things. Information isn't a bad thing...using it nefariously is. In fact, the case could be made that more people understanding the problem leads to better solutions.

Dakid
07-31-2012, 08:37 PM
I agree with everything you said except this. It's similar to saying Symantec, McAfee or people at home trying to figure out the best way to protect their computers are contributing to Windows virii and bugs - its a flawed argument based on two related, but ultimately independent things. Information isn't a bad thing...using it nefariously is. In fact, the case could be made that more people understanding the problem leads to better solutions.



I see your point, if it is done in a professional way.

I guess im operating under the assumption these sites make money on hits (they may not, it's easy to tell do they have ads?). When you give them hits (either by visiting yourself or increasing their traffic through your very public discourse), you encourage them by making them money. True you are not making them much money per hit, but you are still contributing to the problem albeit a small amount.

If you could offset the revenue you generate for them, by actually being productive like the examples you cited (symantec etc...), then it may be a net gain for the good guys (this was your point mxz?)... but when you publicly discuss it on the forum its up for debate how the seesaw balances out. Bottom line is, this could of all been done in a much more discrete, and productive way. If you really enjoy this game with all of its frustrating moments (like yesterday's 5 consecutive epic fail cash opens in a row, or finding someone with 50 scratcher grand prizes), imho nobody should be encouraging additional traffic to these sites even in the name of "research" (using this term is very generous in this case).

If the goal was to reinstate confidence in the process, and people believe this was accomplished, maybe there was a net gain here. I'm not so sure this is the case...but I hope so :)