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The1nONLY
07-25-2012, 02:21 AM
Be warned guys this event is another costly event in the hundreds of dollars to score the gladiator prize. Pass level 10 and so on needs mega hit and health to win = gem purchases

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 02:28 AM
I respectfully disagree with you. Especially since you know past level 10 for you (level 7 for me), you would be required to use gems, then you can just take it that this event is an event that gives u 10 free indestructible units (7 free units for me).

This event is only costly, if you can see the ultimate prize (i.e. perhaps defeat only 20 levels of the gladiator king, then people are more willing to spend)

At 30 or less levels away from getting to 40, only those who REALLY want the ultimate prize will spend the gems/money.

echus14
07-25-2012, 02:47 AM
A funny thought ... if you built a SMALL army of indestructible units and just played the game to finish the quests, maps and levels ... would that be possible? People could defeat you in PvP, but they would get nothing (assuming you vault your gold). I assume here that an indestructible unit cannot be "stolen" by a winner party in PvP. Is this possible?

Edit - a clarification - by build a small army, I mean as a Free Player.

The_Red
07-25-2012, 03:33 AM
I respectfully disagree with you. Especially since you know past level 10 for you (level 7 for me), you would be required to use gems, then you can just take it that this event is an event that gives u 10 free indestructible units (7 free units for me).

This event is only costly, if you can see the ultimate prize (i.e. perhaps defeat only 20 levels of the gladiator king, then people are more willing to spend)

At 30 or less levels away from getting to 40, only those who REALLY want the ultimate prize will spend the gems/money.

how do you know what level you would need to start using gems in order to defeat him?

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 03:39 AM
how do you know what level you would need to start using gems in order to defeat him?

I don't know for you guys. But for me, I have already reached a plateau.
Needed 12 hits to defeat my level 6 boss, so probably 13 gets rid of the level 7 boss for me.
I can buy units with gold or clean out my 60k honor stash to pump attack but that probably means I can kill an extra boss or two.

So ceteris paribus, for a conservative estimate, level 8 onwards will be the level I have to start using gems to defeat the Boss. To do that for 32 straight levels in exponential usage kinda deters one from using gems right?

Crazy Canuck
07-25-2012, 06:45 AM
Be warned guys this event is another costly event in the hundreds of dollars to score the gladiator prize. Pass level 10 and so on needs mega hit and health to win = gem purchasesWhy would you need to use mega hits?

Refill your health with cure potion and just keep hitting him with the gold attack.

I have beat all 3 bosses on MW and it usually has cost me about 1000 gold/gems or less and really with hoelw powerful the end prize is that's a very reasonable price for it.

But yes if you are capping out at the 10th boss your in trouble and it will cost you alot. Right now I'm just done boss 7 and it only took me 8 free hits, haven't even had to start using gold yet

YLL
07-25-2012, 06:57 AM
Why would you need to use mega hits?

Refill your health with cure potion and just keep hitting him with the gold attack.

I have beat all 3 bosses on MW and it usually has cost me about 1000 gold/gems or less and really with hoelw powerful the end prize is that's a very reasonable price for it.

But yes if you are capping out at the 10th boss your in trouble and it will cost you alot. Right now I'm just done boss 7 and it only took me 8 free hits, haven't even had to start using gold yet

Perhaps you should consider changing your handle to "Rational Canuck"? ;)

Jhoemel
07-25-2012, 08:03 AM
And by the way if you are a lower level player and have a really nice stats. You can win the boss event for free. Someone in mw did that

Sludgeboy
07-25-2012, 08:07 AM
Refill your health with cure potion

What cure potion? I don't see it. Does KA have it or are you referring to MW?

Boom
07-25-2012, 08:08 AM
I wish I could do that jho in KA... But my iph needs to be better first..

Boom
07-25-2012, 08:09 AM
What cure potion? I don't see it. Does KA have it or are you referring to MW?This is the KA forum...

Masterjojobinks
07-25-2012, 08:17 AM
I won the first MW event for free (I could only get to level 16 on the second two MW events), I was about the same level I am now in KA. I have finished Boss 9 using only 3 free hits so I am optomistic about getting to at least 30 using only gold.

Jhoemel
07-25-2012, 08:17 AM
I wish I could do that jho in KA... But my iph needs to be better first..


Me too. I want to follow his footsteps too

spectra
07-25-2012, 08:26 AM
how do you know what level you would need to start using gems in order to defeat him?


Red that is very easy
EVERYBODY can do a max of 13 hits within the 2 hour limit
if you use the "gold" option to kill the boss, then when you can determine how many hit will it take you to kill him, you can easyly determine when you will not be able to kill him withoug GEMS

EX: if boss #6 took you 12 gold hits to kill him then 100% sure you will not kill #7 with 13 gold hits (his Health is raised by about 20% of prior health

for me boss #5 to kill him I did total damage of 406,344 (5 gold hits and 2 free hits) and for boss #6 I did total damage of 534,926 (7 gold hits and 2 free hits). As you can see boss #6 health increase by 128,582 or 24%
as you can see I have already use 9 hits out of the possible 13 (18 if I level up during the fight) I only have 4 more hits for the next fights and probably will be able to kill 2/3 bosses max, before having to use GEMS for cure potions

Doing the average of ALL 6 bosses I have kill boss #6 health was 6.67 times higher than boss #1 health or an average increase in health of 31% per level (this is in my personal experience with the boss)

Crazy Canuck
07-25-2012, 08:43 AM
What cure potion? I don't see it. Does KA have it or are you referring to MW?Fight a boss till you have no more health left and then read the message it tells you

spectra
07-25-2012, 09:54 AM
I like the event becasue I will get at least 10 free units, but will not spend any money to kill the other 30 bosses just to get a whole bunch of common units and a "prize" with only 700 attack
It would cost me over 2,000 gems (maybe if I am lucky) to get to 40, if I had the gems, I would rather use them to buy Units that will give me way more than the combine stats of the prize and another 30 common units

just my 2 cents

will keep trying at every event to get my 10 units and I will be happy

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 10:16 AM
I won the first MW event for free (I could only get to level 16 on the second two MW events), I was about the same level I am now in KA. I have finished Boss 9 using only 3 free hits so I am optomistic about getting to at least 30 using only gold.

!! what are your stats? curious..

I finished my Boss 6 in 12 gold hits so there must be something I can learn from you..

The_Red
07-25-2012, 10:43 AM
3 free hits at level 9? This is a joke.

I couldn't clear #2 off with 3 free hits.

Level 7 boss for me took 7 gold hits @ 38k/hit.

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 10:52 AM
3 free hits at level 9? This is a joke.

I couldn't clear #2 off with 3 free hits.

Level 7 boss for me took 7 gold hits @ 38k/hit.

Level 6 boss 12 gold hits @ 47k/hit. oh and gold hit does 1.5x that of a free hit.

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
07-25-2012, 11:38 AM
I think it's cool The1andOnly made a thread. Cheers!

But I would have to agree - it will take gems later on. And some good strategy to get up to 20 or so. I'm at 15, about full health then will have at it to see if I can do it without him chasing tail. Might consider gems (had 10, used it but only filled half health), then again may not. We shall see.

Masterjojobinks
07-25-2012, 12:14 PM
Here are my results so far:

Enemy.Damage...Att..Unit.......................... .........My
Level.Recorded.Type.Won..Att.Def.Ally.Wpn.Armor.At t..Def...level
1.....5585.....f....SB...28..13..120..495.593...82 70.10561.24
2.....?........f....SG....9...8..120..495.593...82 85.10567.24
3.....5601.....f....GCN...3..13..120..495.593...82 87.10568.24
4.....5596.....f....SBL..11...4..120..495.593...82 87.10574.24
5.....5603.....f....SG....9...8..120..495.593...82 91.10574.24
6.....?........f....GCN...3..13..120..495.593...82 99.10578.24
7.....5718.....f.................125..495.593...84 58.10775.25
7.....5717.....f....GCN...3..13..125..495.593...84 58.10775.25
8.....6514.....f.................125..506.594...96 46.10899.25
8.....6513.....f....SG....9...8..125..506.594...96 46.10899.25
9.....6514.....f.................125..506.594...96 47.10901.25
9.....6514.....f.................125..506.594...96 47.10901.25
9.....6513.....f....SG....9...8..125..506.594...96 47.10901.25

Joie
07-25-2012, 12:26 PM
No event is costly, the are all free. If you want to spend money than that's on you

procsyzarc
07-25-2012, 02:08 PM
In modern war my account is stronger and I have spent $500 on gold and I can't get passed six, so far in KA I am two hitting number 10 and have spent nothing on gems. So it does seem correct what people have been saying in MW that low levels have a real advantage

ChaosRules
07-25-2012, 04:00 PM
I'm on Boss 9 and have been able to defeat each one with gold and free only, boss 8 took 5 hits. I'm level 74 with 25k attack. The gold hits only cost $450 to start and are now about $600 each...

spectra
07-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Current damage done to bosses (gold option) 70,313 per hit, took 14 hits to kill #8 used a "cure potion" which only replenish 50% of health bar -- THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seem this is the end of the road for me, at least the 10 gems I used for the cure was worth it, I got as reward a

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd299/spectra69/IMG_8451.png

Cheers

Hobtuse
07-25-2012, 05:03 PM
Current damage done to bosses (gold option) 70,313 per hit, took 14 hits to kill #8 used a "cure potion" which only replenish 50% of health bar -- THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seem this is the end of the road for me, at least the 10 gems I used for the cure was worth it, I got as reward a

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd299/spectra69/IMG_8451.png

Cheers

spectra, my friend... you still at least got a rare out of it.. cheer up!!

spectra
07-25-2012, 05:28 PM
I was hopping that if the KA event was exactly the same as MW, the I would have good changes of making it at least to 20, then spend gems to get to 30, BUT NOooo!!!!!!!, GREE HAD TO NERFTED IT, just like they did the the AUCTION EVENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In MW my stats are pretty much the same as in KA, and yet in MW I was able to make it to #11 and here only to #8 WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

technically I should be in KA about 80 stronger compare to MW based on the game format, yet the "modify" the KA event to ENSURE over 96% of the player would never make it to the top unless they spend lots of GEMS

GREE keeps making the same mistake over and over, yes right now they are happy milking the CASH COWS, but in the short run people will react and stop waisting money to buy something they will never own, and for entertainment purposes is not worth it

I like to spend from time to time on the game because I find it fun, but since the AUCTIONS started and now the Nerfting f the Boss events, I see myself playing free for as long as I can and eventually stop playing at all because of too much GREE-D by GREE!!!!!!!!!

The1nONLY
07-25-2012, 09:34 PM
Why would you need to use mega hits?

Refill your health with cure potion and just keep hitting him with the gold attack.

I have beat all 3 bosses on MW and it usually has cost me about 1000 gold/gems or less and really with hoelw powerful the end prize is that's a very reasonable price for it.

But yes if you are capping out at the 10th boss your in trouble and it will cost you alot. Right now I'm just done boss 7 and it only took me 8 free hits, haven't even had to start using gold yet once you are up to level 20 boss you will see what i mean, up to 10 is free with gold but over that it gets harder to kill the bosses with gold and if you dont mega attack or use cure potion he will get away and you have to start over again

-->FISH<--
07-25-2012, 09:39 PM
once you are up to level 20 boss you will see what i mean, up to 10 is free with gold but over that it gets harder to kill the bosses with gold and if you dont mega attack or use cure potion he will get away and you have to start over again

Fixing to start on 14.. free player this could be the last one for me...

@Spectra...I like this one better than MW, I could only get to 8 on it

The1nONLY
07-25-2012, 09:40 PM
I'll spend 1500 gems to get to level 20 boss with mega attacks and cure potions. My stats are 56+A/58+D at level 92 and Iam struggling to defeat the bosses after that

-->FISH<--
07-25-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm still down at 70 almost 32k for both

echus14
07-26-2012, 12:33 AM
Is it my imagination or are there multiple loot avatars which are the same, but with different names and A/D specs? Eg, Gladiator Spirit (121/59) and Fighter Spirit (101/49)?

MaverickMunkey
07-26-2012, 01:00 AM
Is it my imagination or are there multiple loot avatars which are the same, but with different names and A/D specs? Eg, Gladiator Spirit (121/59) and Fighter Spirit (101/49)?

They will be different loot stats and similar names depending on which level bracket you fall into.

Tikius
08-21-2012, 09:21 AM
Does anyone know if when fighting a boss if it's better to arm yourself with hero or army weapons? I've noticed my hits get better the higher my attack goes up but I'm not sure which type of weapons works better (or if matters at all).

Dewsy
08-21-2012, 09:29 AM
Does anyone know if when fighting a boss if it's better to arm yourself with hero or army weapons? I've noticed my hits get better the higher my attack goes up but I'm not sure which type of weapons works better (or if matters at all).

The weapons don't make a difference to the damage dealt. It is based on your overall attack score.

Welcome to the forums by the way :)

albeezy
08-21-2012, 10:22 AM
I think I will be able to beat boss 20 without gems this time. Last boss I got 17 using free and gold hits. In last two events picked up 7 rares and 10 uncommons without spending gems. Working on IPH and attack stats with no PVP or PVE except to trigger bosses. 18500+ attack at level 39 with max allies and still cannot afford a full armory or weapons as I am only buying astral bows ($16k each have 24) and diviner robes ($12k each have 2 or 3). Trying not to waste gold on weapons and armor that I will have to replace later. Also using trebuchets as my primary attack unit. Have 251 of them, 102 of those added since last boss event. At max allies they add 22 attack points each to my stats for only 2200 gold. Considering upgrading seige workshop to 10 for the flaming catapults which would add 29 attack points each to my stats but need to get my IPH to 10k first, at 7k now.

In my army right now I have 21 loot units with attack stats higher than 27, 251 trebuchets with 27 attack and am fielding an army of 585 units. So by adding 313 more trebuchets I could raise my attack score by about another 6886 points before having to go heavy spending on armor and weapons to raise my attack. With a 10k iph I can buy that many in about 3-4 days giving me an attack of 24k raw based on my current inventory which should propel me to 26-27 bosses. I will need more armor and weapons if I hope to beat all 40, but I think it is possible. This is the strategy I am using at level 39 (was level 38 when boss event started, but have leveled up from beating bosses only).

EDIT: The trick is to only upgrade and buy attack units without doing pvp or pve between bosses (about 1 week in between).

My goal is to try and get 40 without gems, even if it is just once.

albeezy
08-21-2012, 10:28 AM
The weapons don't make a difference to the damage dealt. It is based on your overall attack score.

Welcome to the forums by the way :)

I do not agree. Your attack score is 1/3 units, 1/3 weapons, and 1/3 armor. I am using trebuchets (27 attack), astral bows (19 attack) and diviner robes (11 attack). So at level 39 I can field 585 units/weapons/armor in battle and my attack score is based on those 585 units/weapons/armor. So for my configuration I could get an attack score of 15795 from 585 trebuchets + 11115 from 585 astral bows + 6435 from 585 diviner robes for a total attack of 33345, which hopefully is enough to beat all 40 bosses. If I was fielding 585 flaming catapults I could add 4095 more to that score. Weapons make a huge difference

The_Legend_Shall_Live_On
08-21-2012, 10:32 AM
I got to and killed boss 22 using gold hits. Attack is about 45k (when I killed him), having about 490 basilisks. Last boss I killed 20 without gems. So got two bosses further. I plan to have 650 basilisks by the time the next boss event comes.

The fact that I have 11 rares from all three boss events, I'm pretty happy about that. Then another 16 uncommons (most of which will be used until end game for both attack and defense) adds to that happiness.

Yeah, kind of stinks that I know I won't get to the end of the boss event without gems; however, if I continue to play my cards right, I should be able to get to boss 30 without gems. THEN I would highly consider using gems to defeat the last 10. Probably could get away with using only 250 gems at that point. I just can't level up between events.

But good luck to those still having at the current event! Hope you get the unit -- stats are pretty good!

Dewsy
08-21-2012, 10:33 AM
I do not agree. Your attack score is 1/3 units, 1/3 weapons, and 1/3 armor. I am using trebuchets (27 attack), astral bows (19 attack) and diviner robes (11 attack). So at level 39 I can field 585 units/weapons/armor in battle and my attack score is based on those 585 units/weapons/armor. So for my configuration I could get an attack score of 15795 from 585 trebuchets + 11115 from 585 astral bows + 6435 from 585 diviner robes for a total attack of 33345, which hopefully is enough to beat all 40 bosses. If I was fielding 585 flaming catapults I could add 4095 more to that score. Weapons make a huge difference

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. The way I interpreted Tikius' question was whether there was a difference between using hero weapons or regular army equipment. Weapons obviously do have a significant impact! ;)

GetItOn
08-21-2012, 10:59 AM
My goal is to try and get 40 without gems, even if it is just once.

One tip to aid you in your planning, when you try for 40 be sure to stock up on ALOT of gold beforehand. Once you pass into the 30+ Boss range it might take you 100 hits or more to kill him. This last boss (34 or 35) I had a net loss of 54k (at 3.2k a hit). And it will only go up from there if you don't use Gem attacks. 330k would be a good starting point and then you could see how it goes once you get higher bosses.

ezinap
08-21-2012, 11:33 AM
@ albeezy, I leveled up to 40 during this Boss event. I had the impression the boss also went up a bracket.
The step was something like 48000hp to 72000hp, which of course also covers 1 level (8 to 9).
I dont really mind, I wont be camping until I get to level 50... But it could influence your calculations.

The_Red
08-21-2012, 11:38 AM
@ albeezy, I leveled up to 40 during this Boss event. I had the impression the boss also went up a bracket.
The step was something like 48000hp to 72000hp, which of course also covers 1 level (8 to 9).
I dont really mind, I wont be camping until I get to level 50... But it could influence your calculations.

good to know the L9 boss for people around my level is at 1M or so HP.

albeezy
08-21-2012, 11:46 AM
One tip to aid you in your planning, when you try for 40 be sure to stock up on ALOT of gold beforehand. Once you pass into the 30+ Boss range it might take you 100 hits or more to kill him. This last boss (34 or 35) I had a net loss of 54k (at 3.2k a hit). And it will only go up from there if you don't use Gem attacks. 330k would be a good starting point and then you could see how it goes once you get higher bosses.

That is a good point and something I will have to consider in future events. I usually stock up on gold in between bosses and right before I start I make sure to have more than enough gold to get the boss complete. Once I trigger the boss, I figure out how much gold is going to be required and see which money buildings I will collect during that time. Usually try to get my 1 hour buildings just before triggering him so that I can collect it once more during the event (about 3k). After I know what I am going to collect during the 2 hours, and how much the boss will cost for all 13 hits, I then buy as many units as I can while making sure I will collect enough gold by the end to finish him. Then I start the process. By purchasing as many units as I can before attacking him I maximize my hits, as opposed to adding units during the 2 hours

If I can't beat the boss 40 times that is okay, my ultimate plan is to stay at the lowest level possible by only getting XP during events. This will allow me to build an army that has a significant number of boss loot units and hopefully a good percentage of those will be rares and uncommons.

Bjornfell
09-18-2012, 06:53 AM
Hey,

Im new to the Forum, and dont realy know were this post is going to end up. I have a question though, What determins the healt of an epcik boss?

im asking because i want to beat the boss for free, but my inital tactick of boosting my attack stat as much as possible between the events obviosly didnt work, as i got to lvl 10 bouth times thoug i trippled my attackpower. so if somone out there knows the spesifics i wold like to konw them to (like a function or coralation or someting) and plz dont give me an "i think" answer.

Thanks allot!

and, sorry if this is of topic or postet worong or something.

Talkazar
09-18-2012, 07:05 AM
Short answer: your level. (although the exact brackets seem to be changing from event to event judging by what people say.)

Erm, and I suspect it is impossible to 'beat' the boss (ie 50 times) without using gems, although it seems a few people have achieved the first (20 kills) level without using gems.

albeezy
09-18-2012, 10:56 AM
Hey,

Im new to the Forum, and dont realy know were this post is going to end up. I have a question though, What determins the healt of an epcik boss?

im asking because i want to beat the boss for free, but my inital tactick of boosting my attack stat as much as possible between the events obviosly didnt work, as i got to lvl 10 bouth times thoug i trippled my attackpower. so if somone out there knows the spesifics i wold like to konw them to (like a function or coralation or someting) and plz dont give me an "i think" answer.

Thanks allot!

and, sorry if this is of topic or postet worong or something.
If you don't want an "i think" answer, please post your level and ally count.

Shinazueli
04-30-2013, 06:55 PM
Wow. Best necro ever. There's a spreadsheet linked somewhere near here. It's mostly accurate.

Ratma2001
04-30-2013, 08:13 PM
Necro is an understatement..... but interesting to see The1nONLY's stats back then !! Level 92 with only 56/58K wow !

-OP-
04-30-2013, 09:02 PM
And reading some these old posts show just how good we have it now with all these high atk/def units and so many quests.

What's that old saying...kids these days don't know how easy they have it. Hmm I think I'm one of those kids. Been playing for almost a year but spent a long, long time camping.

Shadows
04-30-2013, 09:19 PM
and if it has, my apologies...

but when you attack the boss, it's always with your _unboosted_ attack stat.... so it may show a little different than some expect...

my two cents

Nacon10
04-30-2013, 09:21 PM
Fantastic than you

steve_r
04-30-2013, 09:42 PM
Funny to see the1 complaining about hundreds of dollars. Also cool to see other old forum regulars. Thanks for bringing this back from page 1million :)

marko101
05-01-2013, 12:19 AM
Lol one off my guild members put his low level account in are guild for first war! After beening top 25 in war he went on to finish over 50 bosses with no gems!!