Composite Factory: Test Subject

[Dreno33]

With many (including Xtro) wanting to get down to the bottom of the true effects of a Composite Factory, I have volunteered to record every ounce of data of my Composite Fcatory (Construction --> Level 10).


CONCLUSION:
My Defense (no unit change) went from 1901 (no composite) to 2266 (lvl 10 composite for a total of an additional 365 defense boost (19.2004% boost)



Lvl



DEFENSE









1
Before


1901


1
After


1937


1
# Change


36


1
# Total


36


1
% Change


1.8937


1
% Total


1.8937









2
Before


1937


2
After


1974


2
# Change


37


2
# Total


73


2
% Change


1.9101


2
% Total


3.8401









3
Before


1974


3
After


2010


3
# Change


36


3
# Total


109


3
% Change


1.8237


3
% Total


5.7338









4
Before


2010


4
After


2047


4
# Change


37


4
# Total


146


4
% Change


1.8408


4
% Total


7.6802









5
Before


2047


5
After


2083


5
# Change


36


5
# Total


182


5
% Change


1.7587


5
% Total


9.5739









6
Before


2083


6
After


2120


6
# Change


37


6
# Total


219


6
% Change


1.7763


6
% Total


11.5203









7
Before


2120


7
After


2156


7
# Change


36


7
# Total


255


7
% Change


1.6981


7
% Total


13.4139









8
Before


2156


8
After


2193


8
# Change


37


8
# Total


292


8
% Change


1.7161


8
% Total


15.3603









9
Before


2193


9
After


2229


9
# Change


36


9
# Total


328


9
% Change


1.6416


9
% Total


17.2541









10
Before


2229


10
After


2266


10
# Change


37


10
# Total


365


10
% Change


1.6599


10
% Total


19.2004

[Dreno33]

Name

x

Attack

Defense















INFANTRY








1

Army Infiltrator

6

12

7


2

Border Commander

1

7

11


3

Desert Leader

1

1

1


4

Desert Soldier

1

1

0


5

Green Tech Researcher

1

23

37


6

MARSOC

3

32

20


7

Naval Marine

1

76

63


8

Tree Sniper

5

3

0















GROUND








1

Anti-Aircraft Cannon

1

5

14


2

Army Transporter

5

9

12


3

Battle Tank

3

3

4


4

Fox Fighter

2

72

62


5

Mountain Citadel Tank

4

10

9


6

Satellite Truck

1

1

5


7

Tactical Truck

1

5

16















AIR








1

Air Lift

6

4

16


2

Border Gunship

1

5

5


3

Heavy Bomber

2

9

7


4

High Altitude Scout

2

10

40


5

Jungle Helicopter

1

1

3


6

Medic Helicopter

1

16

38


7

Wing Fighter

1

31

26


8

Viking Incursion Craft

1

80

56















SEA








1

Explorer Submarine

1

13

38


2

Fuel Supply Ship

10

11

54


3

Oil Aircraft Carrier

1

3

5


4

Old Battleship

1

2

2


5

Strike Hovercraft

1

85

58


6

Tarawa Drop Ship

1

110

290















# of Allies

20








# of Units

66

[Dreno33]

Reserved If Needed.

[JMC]

I thought it was pretty simple how the composites factory worked...
All defense stats of the units you bring to battle are increased by the percentage stated. That's all there is to it..

[enahs1]

Yeah, I am confused as well?
Also, being UK is a 10% increase not 20

[War Priest]

Is this kind of like the BP chart you had?

[Dreno33]

I thought it was pretty simple how the composites factory worked...
All defense stats of the units you bring to battle are increased by the percentage stated. That's all there is to it..

I thought there would be a comment like this. well, I have read in many other threads that there is more to it. I offered if they wanted me to make a thread like this, they did very much (Xtro is one of them for sure, forgot the other 2). I'll go see what thread it was

[Hassleham]

Is this kind of like the BP chart you had?

LOL. Don't hate! haha

[JMC]

Why do forum members always make this game out to be more complicated than it actually is?

[enahs1]

Is this kind of like the BP chart you had?
Lmao, I remember that

[Dreno33]

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37134-Boosts!&highlight=composite

here's the link. scroll down a bit. JohnnyR was one of the others

[War Priest]

There is no secret mystery behind this building...

[Arizona]

I thought there would be a comment like this. well, I have read in many other threads that there is more to it. I offered if they wanted me to make a thread like this, they did very much (Xtro is one of them for sure, forgot the other 2). I'll go see what thread it was
Yeah I asked about all defence buildings and what they added to the scores. I'm interested to see how the raw numbers of the comp worked, and Dr. Eno had a pretty basic base uncorrupted by the ravages of war. A good test study.

[Corsair]

Why do forum members always make this game out to be more complicated than it actually is?Why do some people still insist on a "casualty glitch" even though it's been debunked? Just how some people roll...

Seriously though...Dreno, this isn't rocket science. Go for it, but you only need to do the math one time. If you go and make a research paper on this, you're officially nuts. How you are playing the game is really not that deep.

The funny part to me is Kitty actually updated her A/D formula (this is what started the thread Dreno referenced) and once again no one seems to have noticed. Her theory is boost buildings don't boost D, mainly because she has been told that by support. She's pretty darn close to figuring it out. Now, if you want to analyze THAT it would make sense. Confirm that boosts do actually boost both A and D. And how do D buildings and D of other buildings play in to the D score, the real mystery remaining. Build off of other's advanced research and don't waste time in kindergarten. Of course you'd have level up enough to actually get the boost buildings...

[Ryans67]

I just finished taking my ground boost building from 1-2, and my D went up 130 or so points. I don't have a fancy chart, but nothing else has changed in that 18 hour period.

[manbeast]

my naval research upgrade finished this morning. my defense went up by 900 points.

[JMC]

Why do some people still insist on a "casualty glitch" even though it's been debunked? Just how some people roll...

Seriously though...Dreno, this isn't rocket science. Go for it, but you only need to do the math one time. If you go and make a research paper on this, you're officially nuts. How you are playing the game is really not that deep.

The funny part to me is Kitty actually updated her A/D formula (this is what started the thread Dreno referenced) and once again no one seems to have noticed. Her theory is boost buildings don't boost D, mainly because she has been told that by support. She's pretty darn close to figuring it out. Now, if you want to analyze THAT it would make sense. Confirm that boosts do actually boost both A and D. And how do D buildings and D of other buildings play in to the D score, the real mystery remaining. Build off of other's advanced research and don't waste time in kindergarten. Of course you'd have level up enough to actually get the boost buildings...

This is very different from the casualty glitch. This is something that is VERY obvious and can be seen by just about any player everytime s/he does an upgrade or purchases the building. All those people experiencing very low losses have nothing there that would legitimately be allowing them to experience such losses. Hasn't been debunked, rather no one has found exactly what is causing it, or cannot without seeing stuff that is server side.

As for about hello kitty, im not sure exactly what you're talking about as i havent been reading every single post, but there's no doubt that boosts effect both attack and defence. Have you guys never seen the stat raises before and after an upgrade is complete? Mine jumps up by around 1700 in both att and def now when i upgrade my airship hangar. Why this was even a question, especially one that apparently hasn't been answered, i don't understand.

[Blackstone]

I'll save you the trouble. You get a 20% boost on defense once you get to level 10. No tracking needed.

[Dreno33]

lol the hate on this thread was entertaining. I'm doing this b/c some people wanted me too. Complain and talk down to me all you want, it just reflects your character. Or, shut up with the cocky- and rudeness of your posts as if you know everything.

I don't know exactly what JohnnyR and Xtro are going to do with the data, but i do know that your guys' "know-it-all" attitude should be turned down, it looks foolish.

I'll update this Monday, bye.

[ucantwin1]

I'll save you the trouble. You get a 20% boost on defense once you get to level 10. No tracking needed.

Second on what Blackstone is saying. My 10 comp gives me 20% on D plain and simple.......NOT on A though.

[Arizona]

I was curious to see if numbers you expect to see are what you actually get, or are they truncated or rounded. It can make a difference when your stats are in the thousands, or tens of thousands.
I saw a thread where HK had some formulas for boost buildings and what they added to defence numbers, but I can't remember where, but I do remember I had some doubts over her calculations. I should have got into a discussion there and then but never got round to it.

I haven't figured out defensive numbers yet. I also want to know how defensive buildings whose ranges overlap affects numbers. For instance, If you have all your defensive buildings bunched up next to each other, are all the numbers added together, or is there some redundancy? I might start a post on this if I don't get some answers here,

[JMC]

I was curious to see if numbers you expect to see are what you actually get, or are they truncated or rounded. It can make a difference when your stats are in the thousands, or tens of thousands.
I saw a thread where HK had some formulas for boost buildings and what they added to defence numbers, but I can't remember where, but I do remember I had some doubts over her calculations. I should have got into a discussion there and then but never got round to it.

I haven't figured out defensive numbers yet. I also want to know how defensive buildings whose ranges overlap affects numbers. For instance, If you have all your defensive buildings bunched up next to each other, are all the numbers added together, or is there some redundancy? I might start a post on this if I don't get some answers here,

I think i remember someone trying it out and saying that boosts add cumulatively. So if you have 2 10% boosts to air, your total air boost is 21% and not 20%. If so this may be where you are seeing a difference in stats. If not, it is likely that since every different type of unit in your army is experiencing different boosts and you'd have to go through every unit individually to find out if how much boost your getting is exactly as you should be getting. Easiest way would be to not have a nation boost and to get all boost buildings to the same level. Then rounding also comes into play, since you can't have partial stats.


Defence buildings add to your defensive score as much defence as stated on the building. If it says 15 it will add 15. If they overlap it does not add extra to your defence. Each individual building has a defense score. More expensive buildings like nanotechs will have higher defense than a supply depot. I think the nanotech's defence is something like 48. Having a defence building with 15 defence will change this value to 63 defence on the nanotech. Not exactly sure how much these defensive numbers help to prevent a raid on a building, but for the most part they're useless other than to give your actual defence stat a little boost. If someone with 85K attack can successfully raid someone with 142K defence. Those numbers aren't going to help you much.

[Arizona]

I think i remember someone trying it out and saying that boosts add cumulatively. So if you have 2 10% boosts to air, your total air boost is 21% and not 20%. If so this may be where you are seeing a difference in stats. If not, it is likely that since every different type of unit in your army is experiencing different boosts and you'd have to go through every unit individually to find out if how much boost your getting is exactly as you should be getting. Easiest way would be to not have a nation boost and to get all boost buildings to the same level. Then rounding also comes into play, since you can't have partial stats.


Defence buildings add to your defensive score as much defence as stated on the building. If it says 15 it will add 15. If they overlap it does not add extra to your defence. Each individual building has a defense score. More expensive buildings like nanotechs will have higher defense than a supply depot. I think the nanotech's defence is something like 48. Having a defence building with 15 defence will change this value to 63 defence on the nanotech. Not exactly sure how much these defensive numbers help to prevent a raid on a building, but for the most part they're useless other than to give your actual defence stat a little boost. If someone with 85K attack can successfully raid someone with 142K defence. Those numbers aren't going to help you much.

All my attack numbers add up perfectly, and yes I agree the boosts are compounded instead of just adding them, which is a bonus. I input it all into a spreadsheet that accounts for category and nation boosts. Even before I get a new unit, I can see what my attack stats will be, and so far it's spot on. Still figuring the D side of things.
I had no idea unit buildings had a defensive value attached to them. Where did you get that from, and that a Nanotech is 48?
I suppose at the end of the day, all this number crunching is only going to help you so far. The simple solution would be to get hold of the best units and buildings you can.

[JMC]

All my attack numbers add up perfectly, and yes I agree the boosts are compounded instead of just adding them, which is a bonus. I input it all into a spreadsheet that accounts for category and nation boosts. Even before I get a new unit, I can see what my attack stats will be, and so far it's spot on. Still figuring the D side of things.
I had no idea unit buildings had a defensive value attached to them. Where did you get that from, and that a Nanotech is 48?
I suppose at the end of the day, all this number crunching is only going to help you so far. The simple solution would be to get hold of the best units and buildings you can.

They're in the game files. Not sure if the 48 is correct cause i wasn't looking for defence values when i saw it.

How much is your defence score off by? Remember to compare the units you're bringing into battle only by their raw stats. Only boost that will put one unit ahead of another is nation boost. Boosted stats from boost buildings don't change the order. This is why some people can actually see stats go down slightly, when purchasing certain units, usually infantry replacing an air or sea unit that has more stats from the naval research and airship hangar.

EDIT: Also composites factory does not effect the defence score earned from building defence buildings. Just sold a bunker and lost 5 defence. If it had the 20% boost from my composites i would of lost 6 defence.

[Dreno33]

Level 1 data inputted.

Waiting for current upgrade to finish to start Level 2
(finishes ≈ 5 hours)

[Lordsloss]

Level 1 data inputted.

Waiting for current upgrade to finish to start Level 2
(finishes ≈ 5 hours)I don't mean to be rude, but I'm pretty sure this is almost pointless seeing as it will add what it says.

[Dreno33]

I don't mean to be rude, but I'm pretty sure this is almost pointless seeing as it will add what it says.

i don't mean to be rude, but if you're so dam lazy as to not read the entire thread than your input holds no value considering your assumptions is based on ignorance. But if i must, i will repeat once more, I am doing this for a few of the forum members, those with a much higher IQ than you have proven yourself to have via posts. Shush, please.

[Dreno33]

Inputted data for level 2. (≈ 24 hours till next upgrade completion)

[Lordsloss]

i don't mean to be rude, but if you're so dam lazy as to not read the entire thread than your input holds no value considering your assumptions is based on ignorance. But if i must, i will repeat once more, I am doing this for a few of the forum members, those with a much higher IQ than you have proven yourself to have via posts. Shush, please.So, you are testing this for the forum members who are too lazy to do it themselves? Your test is pointless. It will add what it says. I like your logic of me having a low IQ based on my forum posts, real original.

[manbeast]

I am surprised it added less than 2%. That is frustrating. Hope it compensates with future upgrades.

How come you only have 66 units? When you go to battle, 4 of your allies are bringing nothing.

[Dreno33]

I am surprised it added less than 2%. That is frustrating. Hope it compensates with future upgrades.

How come you only have 66 units? When you go to battle, 4 of your allies are bringing nothing.

b/c i have spent my time upgraded money buildings instead of unit buildings. i will worry about that when the air hanger and docks are unlocked later. no need to put the time upgrading other unit buildings.

@Lordsloss - you're started to annoy me. get out of the thread already, anyone with a sense of process of elimination could figure they couldn't b/c (1) they have probably already leveled it up (2) get attacked and loose units (3) need to buy units still to stay in the game.

Can you still not see the stupidity in your posts? Or is your ignorance still clouding your thick head? Seriously, you sound foolish in what you think you know.

[Fazhang]

I am surprised it added less than 2%. That is frustrating. Hope it compensates with future upgrades.

How come you only have 66 units? When you go to battle, 4 of your allies are bringing nothing.
I think it's due to round off.

[Lordsloss]

b/c i have spent my time upgraded money buildings instead of unit buildings. i will worry about that when the air hanger and docks are unlocked later. no need to put the time upgrading other unit buildings.

@Lordsloss - you're started to annoy me. get out of the thread already, anyone with a sense of process of elimination could figure they couldn't b/c (1) they have probably already leveled it up (2) get attacked and loose units (3) need to buy units still to stay in the game.

Can you still not see the stupidity in your posts? Or is your ignorance still clouding your thick head? Seriously, you sound foolish in what you think you know.Blah blah blah, I'm annoying Dreno. Does this post annoy you as well? Still say it's a stupid things to do.

[Hassleham]

I just did a few calculations with the numbers you've posted so far and they don't really tell you anything.
If you didn't have the UK boost then it would be showing a boost of exactly 2% because you are calculating the % boost using the boosted defence stat, rather than the raw stat.
Therefor the % difference that you are calculating will be different for everyone because it depends entirely on your boost buildings, so there isn't any point.

i'm just trying to explain this in case you hadn't already realise, to save you the bother of spending a lot of time on this.

[Dreno33]

I just did a few calculations with the numbers you've posted so far and they don't really tell you anything.
If you didn't have the UK boost then it would be showing a boost of exactly 2% because you are calculating the % boost using the boosted defence stat, rather than the raw stat.
Therefor the % difference that you are calculating will be different for everyone because it depends entirely on your boost buildings, so there isn't any point.

i'm just trying to explain this in case you hadn't already realise, to save you the bother of spending a lot of time on this.

idk about others, but it literally takes 4 minutes to edit the OP with the new numbers and bumpy the thread, lol

also, i know the UK boost is already in there. as it was BEFORE the building of the composite

[Dreno33]

I think it's due to round off.

why can't it round up? :rolleyes:

[Arizona]

Second on what Blackstone is saying. My 10 comp gives me 20% on D plain and simple.......NOT on A though.
Nope!
It gives you 20% defence boost to units, not on your total defence, and I believe the figure is compounded onto the country boost and not added as some people assume. i.e. it's not 10% country boost +20% Composite boost.

Dreno
Thanks for taking the time to do all this. I don't have a comp factory, so I wanted to see what numbers you actually got levelling up and how it affects your D. A lot easier to interpret when you only have a handful of units such as yourself.
I'm trying to work out how total Defence score is calculated. Country, Composite, Unit buildings all seem to have a part to play as well as the Defensive buildings and their "blue range coverage".

I haven't gone through the numbers' but I'll guess the discrepancy in the 2% number might be due to what I stated above. The Composite is only going to boost your unit defence and not your total defence. Therefore your buildings are adding a small amount of defence that isn't boosted by the Composite.

[JMC]

Buildings have their own defensive score but this in no way adds to your defence stat. Only the defence buildings do so.
The number i told you about for the nanotech factory is only a number that helps it be more raid resistant. No one knows how raids work, as the attacker has such a huge advantage. My brother was raided by someone with 88K attack, while he has 142K defence. Therefore i assume that these numbers and the radius defence of defence buildings are negligible.

All boost buildings only boost the raw stat. He obviously has defensive buildings, other boost buildings or nation boost skewing his number down from 2%. His actual defence stat is likely in the mid 1800s.

Cannot be certain unless he lists all his units, and we see what the UK boost may be doing to the numbers.

[Dreno33]

Cannot be certain unless he lists all his units, and we see what the UK boost may be doing to the numbers.

I am UK, and check the 2nd post of the thread.

[JMC]

I am UK, and check the 2nd post of the thread.

Lol, didn't even see that, because it was reserved before and the first post is so long i never bothered to scroll down after.

[Arizona]

Buildings have their own defensive score but this in no way adds to your defence stat. Only the defence buildings do so.
The number i told you about for the nanotech factory is only a number that helps it be more raid resistant. No one knows how raids work, as the attacker has such a huge advantage. My brother was raided by someone with 88K attack, while he has 142K defence. Therefore i assume that these numbers and the radius defence of defence buildings are negligible.

All boost buildings only boost the raw stat. He obviously has defensive buildings, other boost buildings or nation boost skewing his number down from 2%. His actual defence stat is likely in the mid 1800s.

Cannot be certain unless he lists all his units, and we see what the UK boost may be doing to the numbers.
That makes sense and I thought that's what I was saying. Only the units get the Comp boost. and yes I just checked, he has 13 low end defensive buildings.

[JMC]

Ok, your raw defence is 1808. 2% boost of this is approx 36 defense score as it gave you.

Your sea boost from UK amounts for 93.3 of your defense stat, which is rounded to 93.

1808 + 93 = 1901
1808 + 36 = 1844 + 93 = 1937

Boost is working exactly as it says.

[JMC]

Ok, your raw defence is 1808. 2% boost of this is approx 36.16 defense score as it gave you.

Your sea boost from UK amounts for 93.3 of your defense stat.

1808 + 93.3 = 1901.3 or 1901
1808 + 36.16 = 1844.16 + 93.3 = 1937.46 or 1937

4% boost is 72.32 defense stat

1808 + 72.32 = 1880.32 + 93.3 = 1973.62 or 1974

So it appears partial values are accounted for and rounding is not done until the end.

Boost is working exactly as it says.

[Lordsloss]

Ok, your raw defence is 1808. 2% boost of this is approx 36.16 defense score as it gave you.

Your sea boost from UK amounts for 93.3 of your defense stat.

1808 + 93.3 = 1901.3 or 1901
1808 + 36.16 = 1844.16 + 93.3 = 1937.46 or 1937

4% boost is 72.32 defense stat

1808 + 72.32 = 1880.32 + 93.3 = 1973.62 or 1974

So it appears partial values are accounted for and rounding is not done until the end.

Boost is working exactly as it says.Really? I would have never guessed :)

Note: Sarcasm directed at Dreno, not you.

[Dreno33]

Inputted Level 3 data.

[Dreno33]

Inputted Level 4.

[Dreno33]

Inputted level 5.

[Lordsloss]

Inputted level 6.

[Dreno33]

Inputted level 6.

Yup, what this sh!thead said(:

[Lordsloss]

Inputted level 7.

[Letsgoravens]

this was wierd, my composite was a minute from completeing an upgrade so i checked out my stats
as soon as it completed upgrade my defense stayed the same but my attack jumped up by 2%
im ok with that happening but of course didnt expect that

[Wambo]

Second on what Blackstone is saying. My 10 comp gives me 20% on D plain and simple.......NOT on A though.

If I remember right, before I brought it, it says it's to boost defence. Nothing more. I've not seen my attack go up but I have seen the defence rise up.

[Dreno33]

7 has been added. 84 hours now :P

[Fun]

can you please tell me the price range for upgrades to the composite please pm me or reply back, thanks.

[Lordsloss]

Inputted level 8.

[Lordsloss]

can you please tell me the price range for upgrades to the composite please pm me or reply back, thanks.They are not big at all compared to the others. I believe to go from level 7-8 is only like 3.5 million maybe?

[Dreno33]

They are not big at all compared to the others. I believe to go from level 7-8 is only like 3.5 million maybe?

something like that, 3.something, and Lordloss, quit with the sarcasm.

[Lordsloss]

something like that, 3.something, and Lordloss, quit with the sarcasm.Ok, I've had my fun with you. I'll stop :D

[Dreno33]

Updated for level 8. lvl 9 done in 94 more hours

[BODA82]

Great info! Thanks, Dreno! :D

[Arizona]

Thanks Dre.

[SGT Barr]

Just a question. I'm currently upgrading my Composite Factory to lvl9 for the defense boost. But does anyone ever raid someones base and say "gotta take out that darn composite factory!". When I raid I go after mid-high level $$ buildings. Ore Factory, Military Markets, Munitions Stockpiles, etc... I never focus on a rivals Composite Factory. Just asking to see if I need to beef mine up with defense buildings.

[MadManDK]

My Composite has been raided once, so someone could attack me and win rather than loose. I haven't done it, but I would consider it if someone with high defense stats and low attack stats had some money I wanted.

[Dreno33]

Lvl 9 is in now. but only 49 more hours until last upgrade is done

[Watash]

Thanks Dreno for your effort on this composite building issue. It was informative and useful. There are plenty of smart people who post here and you are right at the top of that heap. As an aside, for those who occasionally disparage you I would offer the unsolicited advice of ignoring them. Don't even bother to respond to those scurrilous posts.

There is an old Irish saying "Never fight with a pig, you will just get dirty and the pig likes it".

Chive on....

[Dreno33]

CONCLUSION:
My Defense (no unit change) went from 1901 (no composite) to 2266 (lvl 10 composite for a total of an additional 365 defense boost (19.2004% boost)

[War Priest]

Dreno... You know most of us already knew that percentages weren't 100% correct.

Found this out a long time ago. Even with the money for purchase isn't exactly even with eachother.

[Dreno33]

Dreno... You know most of us already knew that percentages weren't 100% correct.

Found this out a long time ago. Even with the money for purchase isn't exactly even with eachother.

WP, there's that stupid post of yours again popping up in another one of my threads providing nothing but useless banter. you already know exactly why this thread was created. shut it with your dumb negatory. just b/c you spend a fortune (or exploited a glitch in TJ awhile ago) doesn't mean your opinion holds value. these unneeded posts of yours are quite annoying now

[Ryans67]

One of your soldiers probably deserted during that time. He was bored. ;)

[Dreno33]

One of your soldiers probably deserted during that time. He was bored. ;)

haha it better have been a dam tree sniper. i have barely done any PvP to get this lvl and already have 5 of those dumb things

[War Priest]

WP, there's that stupid post of yours again popping up in another one of my threads providing nothing but useless banter. you already know exactly why this thread was created. shut it with your dumb negatory. just b/c you spend a fortune (or exploited a glitch in TJ awhile ago) doesn't mean your opinion holds value. these unneeded posts of yours are quite annoying now

What? You pissed because we already told you this whole test was dumb and I am just shoving it in your face?

[War Priest]

Or are you pissed because you made that retarded ass comment about my joke and I threw that in your face?

[Dreno33]

What? You pissed because we already told you this whole test was dumb and I am just shoving it in your face?

I'm annoyed b/c you think your opinion holds credibility. whether YOU think it was dumb or not doesn't change the fact i did it for someone else. Now, quit ranting on and post something more useful then trying to be a d!ck. thanks

[War Priest]

Your probably sending a Crime City Mark a PM right now... Suck up!

Everyone knows you are. That's why we laugh our asses off on the other forum in the thread dedicated to you. :)

[War Priest]

I'm annoyed b/c you think your opinion holds credibility. whether YOU think it was dumb or not doesn't change the fact i did it for someone else. Now, quit ranting on and post something more useful then trying to be a d!ck. thanks

I was just saying we already knew it. It's funny how I reply kindly then you twist it all up like I am the bad guy. Same with the joke yesterday.

By the way, I am not going to stop being a d*ck to you. You asked for it, your going to get it!

[Dreno33]

Your probably sending a Crime City Mark a PM right now... Suck up!

Everyone knows you are. That's why we laugh our asses off on the other forum in the thread dedicated to you. :)

not replying means I'm done stooping to your level for this retarded internet bantering. I've done that too much just already today by replying to you once. ciao

[CasualPlayer]

Dreno, you wanna take some of your own advice! You were in my thread earlier with nothing to say but stupid comments. I was looking for advice and all you could pipe up with was a non funny remark about the thread headline

[Dreno33]

Dreno, you wanna take some of your own advice! You were in my thread earlier with nothing to say but stupid comments. I was looking for advice and all you could pipe up with was a non funny remark about the thread headline


there is no such thing as a casualty glitch...

CCM couldn't stress it enough how funny it was that you all thought of it as a realistic thing. He said he has checked into tons of ppl who have said to have had the glitch and found them all with just extreme luck in their records of fights/raids

ill keep that in mind

[War Priest]

Dreno... You know most of us already knew that percentages weren't 100% correct.

Found this out a long time ago. Even with the money for purchase isn't exactly even with eachother.


WP, there's that stupid post of yours again popping up in another one of my threads providing nothing but useless banter. you already know exactly why this thread was created. shut it with your dumb negatory. just b/c you spend a fortune (or exploited a glitch in TJ awhile ago) doesn't mean your opinion holds value. these unneeded posts of yours are quite annoying now

Look at this sh*t. So how is my post a "dumb negatory" comment. I was just saying.

Somebody needs slapped around. Everybody knows how Seq gets when he is pissed, you would be surprised to know I get worse when pissed.

[CasualPlayer]

ill keep that in mind

Yeah keep reading on in the thread

[War Priest]

Ok, content deleted. You had enough time to soak it up. :)