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spectra
07-16-2012, 12:06 PM
STRATEGY TO GET BREEDEN DEN TO LV-7 - Need help for lv-8!!

For level 2 to level 6 All you need is to make sure you have your vault at level 19 which will hold $250k to cover for the upgrade to lv-6 (all upgrades will take a total of 153 hours)

For level 7:
You need $415k gold for the upgrade
1–
make sure vault is at max (will hold $330k)

2 –
You still need $85k for the upgrade

Important!!!
It will help if you have lots of hero strength points and the higher your level in the mastery maps the better and at least 800+ energy points (my hero strength is 164 and have the last 2 maps at lv-5, the other lv2-4, and enery of 1,360)
Time to prepare this wil depend on your hero strength, me at 162, usually takes me 2 hits for most high level map monsters and about 5-7 hits for BOSSES3 –

you need to make the bosses of the last 4 or 5 maps appear……..how?
Hit all the monsters in the map to the point of only needed 1 more hit to kill them, after that, (if boss is not already there) then hit any random monster and see what respawns, if it is the same monster, then kill a diffenrent monster……WHY? MAP BOSSES DO NOT DESAPEAR……….they just reappear as a different monster when killed, so after you kill him the next monster to appear has to be the BOSS (since all other monsters have damage) just kill that monster, every time will become a different one until it changes back to the BOSS (sometimes it takes 4 -6 kills for the boss to reapear)

4-

Once a boss appear on the map, hit it until you only need 1 more hit to kill, do all this in ALL 4-5 Maps
(Each boss will drop between $13k and $17k, depending on what level is your map)

5 –

Good now that we have ALL the bosses of the last 4-5 maps with only one hit to kill them
Dwarven Mine – Bone Lord
Nomadic Encampment - Primal King
The dreatful thicken - Ancient Magician
Shipwreck cove - Kraken
Mountain of Blessing - Defiler

Your are ready to upgrade the breeden den to lv-7

AFTER COMPLETING THE ABOVE:

1 - Just make sure you have $330k in the vault
2 – You have a full energy bar (just in case)
3 – you have no building being upgraded
4 – just kill the bosses in the maps, that will give you over $85k
5 – UPGRADE THE BREEDEN DEN RIGHT AWAY, BEFORE YOU GET ATTACKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can use this to upgrade any high cost building you want, I am just trying to get my breeding den to lv-8

YOU CAN ALSO SYNC THE killing of the bosses with the collection of your 12/24 hour buildings such as Lenders, manors, playground and silos, to ensure you get the $415 needed for the upgrade



For Lv-8 I still have to figure out how to come up with the $690k needed for it

If anyone has an idea, please let me know


Hope this helps

War Eagle
07-16-2012, 12:27 PM
My plan is to just stay at a low enough level to where I'm not in whale territory. Then just make sure my defense stats are good enough to protect my unvaulted gold. This worked when I built my manors (I had 100k of unvaulted gold at the time for each one and was never attacked).

Hobtuse
07-16-2012, 12:37 PM
@Spectra: Great guide for players in whale terrority and without an absurd defense.

Some corrections though:
Mountain of Blessings: Defiler doesn't appear after you kill it twice. Devouring Devils is the one you would want to use for the run, gives you more gold too.

Shipwreck Cove: the Kraken doesn't appear too after you kill it twice. Kraken's Eye will be the one you would prefer for the run. It gives you 16k too.

To get to level 8 Breeding Den, for players without an absurd amt of defense,

Here is a possible way:
You would have to start the upgrade run at a higher amt of gold, meaning you start instead at say 450k instead of 330k.

Example Breeding Den Run
Unvaulted: 120k
Vault: 330k
Gold Collection: 100k+ (upgrade manors/lenders/silos)(level 2 manors give you 30k each)
Kill Sub-boss Monsters: 120k+
- (e.g. dragon apparition, kraken's eye, primal king, ancient magician, bone lord and mutated horror gives you 70k)

The more you can squeeze out of gold collection and killing monsters, the less unvaulted gold you will need.

mutated horror for e.g. gives a better output than devouring devils for gold per energy.
if done properly, you can get more than 120k at one go with 1,000+ energy.

@Spectra: this is easier for you as you are at level 126 and should have way more energy to sync more boss kills. if you still have some of the boss monsters like Dreadful Queen, Defiler, Dragon Troll, Kraken left, it will be easier.

if you don't think you want to upgrade manors to level 2, then you can sell them too as another measure. That would be 240k+.

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Build up your 12, 24 and 48 hour building get them all synced is best bet IMO

So far I have 2 lvl 10 silos and taverns. Lvl 5 have 2 leatherworks, 2 printing press and 2 pottery makers. Now I'm starting on upgrading lenders and playhouses to lvl 5 atleast. Hoping I should be able to pull in over 100k in 1 shot when all done

spectra
07-16-2012, 01:26 PM
Thank you guys

this will be very helpfull to determine how to best maximize my resources to be able to upgrade to level 8
I should be able to start lv-7 this evening and it will give me a couple of days to prepare to raise the money for lv-8

Cheers

Funkey monkey
07-16-2012, 05:13 PM
I also plan to upgrade prior to whale territory. A little late for this strategy if your at 126.

I've also noticed that attacks do not seem random. I'm trying to see if there is reason why one might appear on top of battle list. For example, it seems that when I level up I get attacked that first day several times. I can go a week without getting attacked then get attacked again several times. I asked CCM during the AMA and he said he couldn't say. My guess is the list isn't random. If we can figure out the triggers on what makes you higher on the Battle List, that might help your upgrading the Breeding Den. Anyone else notice any triggers?

d_nickels
07-16-2012, 05:28 PM
Great ideas on helping protect some money for a large upgrade. Now, how to get to level 10 breeding den!?! haha

Another thing that might help is to lower your alliance number. Yes, it will lower your total defense score, but depending on how high your alliance number is, it might be making you a good target to whales for the higher pvp quests. I personally gave up looking for good gold targets on the pvp list a long time ago, but I do frequently look for good pvp quest targets and this means getting high enough alliance targets no matter how much gold they might have on hand.

spectra
07-16-2012, 05:30 PM
I also plan to upgrade prior to whale territory. A little late for this strategy if your at 126.

I've also noticed that attacks do not seem random. I'm trying to see if there is reason why one might appear on top of battle list. For example, it seems that when I level up I get attacked that first day several times. I can go a week without getting attacked then get attacked again several times. I asked CCM during the AMA and he said he couldn't say. My guess is the list isn't random. If we can figure out the triggers on what makes you higher on the Battle List, that might help your upgrading the Breeding Den. Anyone else notice any triggers?

I too go days withoug being attack, (and I am trying to "determine" a patter to use it for when I am ready to upgrade to lv-8 ) my stats are not that but actually for my level (62k/61k A/D)
but there are always players with higher stats than mine that attack to complete missions

Thanks for the info

Euchred
07-16-2012, 05:58 PM
Did the 665k manor level 3 upgrade today. I didn't sell a level 1 manor to do it but that's an option if you haven't upgraded them yet.

d_nickels
07-16-2012, 06:26 PM
If you sell back a level 1 manor do you get full price back and then you can build it again later on?

Euchred
07-16-2012, 06:30 PM
As with other buildings you get half of the purchase price back, so 125k. Then it costs the full amount to build it back.

Muddy
07-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Spectra,
If I write understand you can reduce the costs of the building upgrades to upgrade Lumber Mill. Right now your is 1st level. On the 10th level it will save 10%. 400-40=... Not a lot but...

ShawnBB
07-16-2012, 09:21 PM
Did the 665k manor level 3 upgrade today. I didn't sell a level 1 manor to do it but that's an option if you haven't upgraded them yet.

Damn,that's two times of the vault! Where are the whales :p

spectra
07-16-2012, 09:37 PM
If you sell back a level 1 manor do you get full price back and then you can build it again later on?

whatever you sell, you only get 50% of what you paid for it

spectra
07-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Spectra,
If I write understand you can reduce the costs of the building upgrades to upgrade Lumber Mill. Right now your is 1st level. On the 10th level it will save 10%. 400-40=... Not a lot but...

thanks, I know, it suck only a 10%, even on the $690k upgrade to lv-8, I only save 90k, but to get the lumber to lv-10 would take too long
Thanks

Buddha44
08-10-2012, 10:49 AM
This is a great guide. Will start implementing more of it soon.

spectra
08-10-2012, 10:53 AM
This is a great guide. Will start implementing more of it soon.

Glad to share and I hope works well for you

Cheers

Funkey monkey
08-11-2012, 01:12 PM
Spectra,
Congrats Spectra. Tried to send you a PM but it said you were full. I also would like to add you as an ally fellow Forum Knight.

spectra
08-11-2012, 01:17 PM
Spectra,
Congrats Spectra. Tried to send you a PM but it said you were full. I also would like to add you as an ally fellow Forum Knight.

thanks

just cleaned my inbox

cheers