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YLL
07-16-2012, 02:40 AM
I just broke into the 7k IPH club this morning. Where is everyone else at? Oh, and I'm at Level 44, by the way.


EDIT: I can't seem to see how to edit the poll wording, but if anyone reads this, my intent was to survey IPHs as of today (July 16th). So, if you have a building or buildings completing today, please enter the upgraded IPH.

Also, please do post your IPH if it's over 10k - I see at least one person has this(!).

Everson25
07-16-2012, 04:23 AM
I'm still with 5.5k but now the event is over I will be concentrate my time to improve this area.

YLL
07-16-2012, 04:48 AM
Interesting, we have a classic bell curve distribution for the moment (n=8), with median and average at 5-5.9k.

Dewsy
07-16-2012, 05:52 AM
Will break 9k when my upgrade finishes in 1hr so voted that option :)

YLL
07-16-2012, 06:08 AM
Will break 9k when my upgrade finishes in 1hr so voted that option :)

That's fine, thanks - and good point - I intended the poll to survey today's IPHs, will amend wording accordingly.

YLL
07-16-2012, 06:21 AM
For those who might be interested in the stats, at n=18: average 5.63, median is 5-5.9k and standard deviation is 2.03.

Vile Lynn
07-16-2012, 07:54 AM
Thanks YLL, neat poll :)

I have been upgrading unit & boost buildings... this poll reminds me to upgrade my IPH.
(would be nice to get some new money buildings)

Hapl0
07-16-2012, 08:31 AM
Hi VL, i hope they'll add more money buildings, it will be interesting a prize like this in the old fashion (event).

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 09:33 AM
I'm just under 5k but mine is a more true income since I didn't pad my IPH stat with upgrading cottage, farm, bazaar and fish market type buildings. All my upgrades are on 12, 24 and 48 hour buildings

Cool Fella
07-16-2012, 09:46 AM
I am below 4000 but I didn't worry about cottages, farms, etc.

Vile Lynn
07-16-2012, 09:53 AM
Hi VL, ...

Hi back, Hap :D

ShawnBB
07-16-2012, 09:57 AM
Nice thread:). Emcee will pop out in few hours I guess.

I'm right at 8339 IpH. Will break 9000 in no time, have to bump my lvl6 farms.

YLL
07-16-2012, 12:39 PM
Thanks YLL, neat poll :)

I have been upgrading unit & boost buildings... this poll reminds me to upgrade my IPH.
(would be nice to get some new money buildings)

Hi VL, glad you like it. :) Have you been away from the forums lately - haven't noticed you around... but then, I've also had a number of days "away"!

YLL
07-16-2012, 12:44 PM
I'm just under 5k but mine is a more true income since I didn't pad my IPH stat with upgrading cottage, farm, bazaar and fish market type buildings. All my upgrades are on 12, 24 and 48 hour buildings


I am below 4000 but I didn't worry about cottages, farms, etc.

Thanks for taking part in the survey, guys. :) You're right that this is a poll of "apparent" rather than "effective" IPH, but there is no simple way of measuring the latter. And different people have different objectives playing this game, after all, so please don't feel that you have to defend your IPH stats - the survey's not about "winning", it's intended merely to provide anyone who's curious an idea of where their apparent IPH stands. :)

YLL
07-16-2012, 12:45 PM
Nice thread:). Emcee will pop out in few hours I guess.

I'm right at 8339 IpH. Will break 9000 in no time, have to bump my lvl6 farms.

Thanks. :) And wait for me! ;)

YLL
07-16-2012, 12:49 PM
And the stats before I go to bed: still looking like a bell curve with a rightwards skew (as could be expected); n=33, average=5.55, median=5 to 5.9k, standard deviation=1.99.

Chups
07-16-2012, 12:56 PM
My IPH is not in one of the choices! My IPH is 4.91....

;)

j/k
or Am I;)

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 12:57 PM
Thanks for taking part in the survey, guys. :) You're right that this is a poll of "apparent" rather than "effective" IPH, but there is no simple way of measuring the latter. And different people have different objectives playing this game, after all, so please don't feel that you have to defend your IPH stats - the survey's not about "winning", it's intended merely to provide anyone who's curious an idea of where their apparent IPH stands. :) its all good. Each to there own style and what they want.

The only big difference is 12, 24 and 48 hour collections upgrades Will help you later in game more with the costly high end upgrades.

YLL
07-16-2012, 12:59 PM
My IPH is not in one of the choices! My IPH is 4.91....

;)

j/k
or Am I;)

Haha... Ok, next time around, I'll make sure to have the options to three decimal places, especially for you. ;)

YLL
07-16-2012, 01:03 PM
its all good. Each to there own style and what they want.

The only big difference is 12, 24 and 48 hour collections upgrades Will help you later in game more with the costly high end upgrades.

I completely agree. Myself, I have a mixture of high-level 6/12/24-hour buildings and high-level cottages and farms. The reason for the former is that I am a "low touch" player most days (usually when I'm at work); the latter, that I can be a "high touch" player on occasion (some weekend and holiday days) - and at such times, those frequent-yield buildings really provide good effective income.

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 01:32 PM
I would agree the fish market, bazaar, farm and cottage when upgrade can be a big help to pay for the events if you are using the middle option and tring 10-16 times a day.

The_Red
07-16-2012, 01:36 PM
I would agree the fish market, bazaar, farm and cottage when upgrade can be a big help to pay for the events if you are using the middle option and tring 10-16 times a day.

Ive been upgrading the caravans - one of them pumps out 1100/hour. When I get the other one there - it'll effectively be paying for the opens.

Vile Lynn
07-16-2012, 02:07 PM
Hi VL, glad you like it. :) Have you been away from the forums lately - haven't noticed you around... but then, I've also had a number of days "away"!

As far the forums go, I'm in & out :)
lol, mostly just checking for new event announcements, but then some threads are good & I want to post, like this one.

Euchred
07-16-2012, 05:53 PM
Going to break 7k soon with level 2 and 3 manors

ShawnBB
07-16-2012, 06:08 PM
Going to break 7k soon with level 2 and 3 manors

Amazing CC hood bro! 2m+ is absolutely sick man!

Euchred
07-16-2012, 06:22 PM
Thanks ShawnBB Almost at level 7 NightClubs Which reminds me I can do an upgrade XD
I stopped banking I'm walking around with 430 million on hand lol!

Doc Rumpies
07-16-2012, 07:15 PM
Just under 8.1K at level 8

Hapl0
07-16-2012, 07:38 PM
That's fantastic Doc, i'll look for your kingdom (just for research).

Doc Rumpies
07-16-2012, 07:43 PM
PM'd you my ID number, Hap

ShawnBB
07-16-2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks ShawnBB Almost at level 7 NightClubs Which reminds me I can do an upgrade XD
I stopped banking I'm walking around with 430 million on hand lol!

I'm no banking as well, still working on my second level 2 NightClub.
What level is your casino? May I have the honor to add you in CC :) craving for a visit!

Euchred
07-16-2012, 07:54 PM
I'm no banking as well, still working on my second level 2 NightClub.
What level is your casino? May I have the honor to add you in CC :) craving for a visit!

Still rocking level 1 casinos I'll add the code in your sig.

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 08:20 PM
Are you guys that strong in CC you don't have to worry about getting hit that you can go without banking?

I'm lvl 135 and 36K defense but don't think I would want to dare leave money out

Euchred
07-16-2012, 08:45 PM
Are you guys that strong in CC you don't have to worry about getting hit that you can go without banking?

I'm lvl 135 and 36K defense but don't think I would want to dare leave money out

Haha nope my stats are in the 40 thousands. I just make enough so that the amount people can take from me is less then what the bank would take if I banked the money. Plus there's other ways to successfully no bank if your willing to go to extremes.

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 08:57 PM
Do I want to know what the extremes are? Lol


I wish I had got the event item that gave free bank deposits.

Timbathia
07-16-2012, 09:09 PM
Do I want to know what the extremes are? Lol


I wish I had got the event item that gave free bank deposits.

CC is ridiculous. I am only 25k defense at level 130 (above average for free player but well below the top players), and I have about a 15 minute window most days to make my collections on MT, loft, condos, upscael club, etc. before they get robbed.

ShawnBB
07-16-2012, 09:13 PM
Are you guys that strong in CC you don't have to worry about getting hit that you can go without banking?

I'm lvl 135 and 36K defense but don't think I would want to dare leave money out

I'm one of the not many free players who is able to go no banking with a proper stats distribute:)
Don't ever spend RP on RPG or exelero if you are aiming for no banking, that's not for defending.

Lol,euch. I saw your wall,people are beating the SH!t out of your money:( sad to see your beautiful symmetric hood got tortured.

600 post!

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 09:33 PM
CC is ridiculous. I am only 25k defense at level 130 (above average for free player but well below the top players), and I have about a 15 minute window most days to make my collections on MT, loft, condos, upscael club, etc. before they get robbed.
I'm a free player on CC aswell. Was so happy to get my 1st office building built the other day.

Crazy Canuck
07-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Don't ever spend RP on RPG or exelero if you are aiming for no banking, that's not for defending.


Well I'm done on that idea then I have sunk a lot into Exelero

YLL
07-16-2012, 09:50 PM
"Final" results (as of 6am UK time): n=48, average=5.4, median=5 to 5.9k, standard deviation=2.0.

Anyone know how to close the poll so we can preserve the current results as a "historical" snapshot? The idea is to conduct regular surveys (say once a month) so we can look back at IPH evolution over time.

YLL
07-16-2012, 09:59 PM
As far the forums go, I'm in & out :)
lol, mostly just checking for new event announcements, but then some threads are good & I want to post, like this one.

Thanks again. :) You should consider changing your username to Lovely Lynn, hehe. ;)

GetItOn
07-16-2012, 11:48 PM
Thanks again. :) You should consider changing your username to Lovely Lynn, hehe. ;)

Keep it in your pants bro. 8)

YLL
07-17-2012, 12:24 AM
Keep it in your pants bro. 8)

How do you know I'm a bro and not a sis? ;)

GetItOn
07-17-2012, 12:51 AM
How do you know I'm a bro and not a sis? ;)

Thats hot then.

MSH
07-17-2012, 01:05 AM
Interesting, we have a classic bell curve distribution for the moment (n=8), with median and average at 5-5.9k.

Just a couple of brief comments here:

- Forum/Poll participants tend to be serious, yet very conservative players with tendency to camp. Overall KA IPH curve should be more skewed to the left, especially if the newer players are concerned. In fact, the lower the mean - the fastest the players population is growing, as the newly joined tend to have lower IPH

- I am lvl 104 in the middle of whale territory. Whales tend to be outliers, when IPH is concerned, but not only to the right - I routinely see IPH of 15 k, or higher, but also to the left - I so quite a few with serious gem armies (high 5 digits to 6 digits a/d) with REALLY LOW IPH at around 2.5 -4.5k - they don't seem to need gold - can buy whatever they need anyway,,,

YLL
07-17-2012, 03:58 AM
Just a couple of brief comments here:

- Forum/Poll participants tend to be serious, yet very conservative players with tendency to camp. Overall KA IPH curve should be more skewed to the left, especially if the newer players are concerned. In fact, the lower the mean - the fastest the players population is growing, as the newly joined tend to have lower IPH

- I am lvl 104 in the middle of whale territory. Whales tend to be outliers, when IPH is concerned, but not only to the right - I routinely see IPH of 15 k, or higher, but also to the left - I so quite a few with serious gem armies (high 5 digits to 6 digits a/d) with REALLY LOW IPH at around 2.5 -4.5k - they don't seem to need gold - can buy whatever they need anyway,,,

Good points, thanks in particular for the info about the whales(!).

I'm sure most realise that results from a survey of forum participants cannot necessarily extrapolated to the wider (non-forum) KA community - I seem to recall having seen a few threads on the differences between the two (albeit possibly on the MW forum rather than the KA one). Nonetheless, it can be nice - and even useful - to have some sort of benchmark.

DoubleBarrelMob
07-17-2012, 08:48 AM
I have a camper account in KA and am interested in becoming more active. I was wondering if $3100/IPH at level 8 was good enough or should I continue to raise it before moving forward? Any advice would be much appreciated.

YLL
07-17-2012, 12:27 PM
I have a camper account in KA and am interested in becoming more active. I was wondering if $3100/IPH at level 8 was good enough or should I continue to raise it before moving forward? Any advice would be much appreciated.

I personally wouldn't sweat it too much... But yes, 3.1k is pretty respectable, particularly if that's mostly "effective income" (i.e. if you can collect most of it).

Joe Brown1
07-17-2012, 12:29 PM
Welcome to the KA forum DBM - seen you on the CC forum a bit:cool:

DoubleBarrelMob
07-17-2012, 03:11 PM
Welcome to the KA forum DBM - seen you on the CC forum a bit:cool:

Thanks! The CC forum is too dramatized!

Thanks to you as well YLL!

Baraka
07-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Has to be. Gem player to be over 10. I been upgrading since day game came out I'm at 6000.

Hapl0
07-17-2012, 05:51 PM
If i were you DBM, i will raise a bit more.

GetItOn
07-17-2012, 08:00 PM
I have a camper account in KA and am interested in becoming more active. I was wondering if $3100/IPH at level 8 was good enough or should I continue to raise it before moving forward? Any advice would be much appreciated.

I only have slightly higher than that and I'm lvl 55. lol But I can't stand camping. I pve and pvp every time my energy/stamina is filled almost.