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hb bombers
07-10-2012, 10:44 PM
OK got it. Thanks for the help forum freinds. 7/30 all commons.

Right there with you Cope 7 for 7 on the commons. This sucks!!! Anyone get a rare yet???

bigflan
07-10-2012, 10:44 PM
holy crap are u serious?! are you using the cash option or the free option?? following that pattern boss 30 will take 30 hits and probably 500 gold or more!! heres my log so far:

Boss hits loot
1 1 free common ground
2 1 free common ground
3 2 free common ground
4 1 cash 1 free common ground
5 2 cash common ground

Number 5 took 6 attacks with the cash option something is fishy here

bigflan
07-10-2012, 10:48 PM
And on top of the event getting harder I got another common will try to go as far as I can but no hopes at all

SirNinja
07-10-2012, 10:56 PM
holy crap are u serious?! are you using the cash option or the free option?? following that pattern boss 30 will take 30 hits and probably 500 gold or more!! heres my log so far:

Boss hits loot
1 1 free common ground
2 1 free common ground
3 2 free common ground
4 1 cash 1 free common ground
5 2 cash common ground

I got a similar pattern. It took me 3 hits for the 3rd boss and 4 hit for the 4-th one. I guess I will never will the final item if I don't get more allies. I currently have only 92 allies and 1000 units. More allies means more attacks. Guys please help me by adding me. My ID is in my signature.

Thanks in advance. :)

Corsair
07-10-2012, 10:56 PM
Anyone else notice that each boss won gives a cash reward, plus XP? I wouldn't have known the XP but one leveled me up. I think they were supposed to do that in the last one too, but not sure they always did. Wonder if they give valor too? Keep your eyes out for that...

SirNinja
07-10-2012, 10:57 PM
Number 5 took 6 attacks with the cash option something is fishy here
Hi, bigflan,

What is your lvl, # of allies, and attacks?

Warfiend
07-10-2012, 11:02 PM
Anyone else notice that each boss won gives a cash reward, plus XP? I wouldn't have known the XP but one leveled me up. I think they were supposed to do that in the last one too, but not sure they always did. Wonder if they give valor too? Keep your eyes out for that...

Haven't seen valor, but it was giving xp in the last one as one leveled me up and messed up my chances to use a level up for an energy refill.

I've been using missions in the insurgent camp to trigger bosses in order to keep xp accumulation down so I have a shot at using leveling for a refill on the harder levels. Just throwing that out there for other free players to think about.

bigflan
07-10-2012, 11:06 PM
Hi, bigflan,

What is your lvl, # of allies, and attacks?

Level 55

59 allies

6500 attack

7400 defense

Corsair
07-10-2012, 11:07 PM
Good call warfiend, been thinking of doing that also. Didn't catch that they were giving XP last time, but I did use level ups to save gold, 3 times, 1 in each of the last 3 days. Almost did 2 in a day!

albeezy
07-10-2012, 11:08 PM
I've been using missions in the insurgent camp to trigger bosses in order to keep xp accumulation down so I have a shot at using leveling for a refill on the harder levels. Just throwing that out there for other free players to think about.
For me hitting a guard tower only costs 5 xp and will trigger a boss. How many XP is the insurgent camp missions? Im too lazy to go there and find out.

I have 745 XP before I level. Anyone tracking the XPs form the bosses too?

bigflan
07-10-2012, 11:09 PM
I just hope I don't fail I'm adding allies like crazy now everyone and anyone is accepted

Ashmw
07-10-2012, 11:09 PM
My LLP at lev 15 is following this pattern
1 boss 1 cash attack
2 boss 2 cash attack
3 boss 3 cash attack

SirNinja
07-10-2012, 11:10 PM
Level 55

59 allies

6500 attack

7400 defense

Wow, your attack is so high. I have 91 allies and 4052 attacks.

Warfiend
07-10-2012, 11:14 PM
How many XP is the insurgent camp missions?

Everything is 1 except for the insurgent leader, which is 2.

Vertex
07-10-2012, 11:16 PM
For some reason, I cannot trigger the boss. I've done over 30 pvp and 20 pve attacks. Is anyone else getting this issue?

Copenhagen
07-10-2012, 11:17 PM
Did we figure out if it is 30 or 50 bosses for the top prize? Mine still says 50.

spectra
07-10-2012, 11:18 PM
Did we figure out if it is 30 or 50 bosses for the top prize? Mine still says 50.

same as prior boss, icon shows 50, but in reality the mission states 30, so they have to honor the 30 no matter what

bigflan
07-10-2012, 11:19 PM
Wow, your attack is so high. I have 91 allies and 4052 attacks.You said you had 1000 units you should buy mid range sea units and farm the mini sub (located in emir island unlocked at Lv 32)

SirNinja
07-10-2012, 11:28 PM
You said you had 1000 units you should buy mid range sea units and farm the mini sub (located in emir island unlocked at Lv 32)

Will definitely do the farming of mini-sub. Thanks.

Thief
07-10-2012, 11:44 PM
Level 60: 15k Attack 480 Allies (but i only bring 300 into battle)
Level 1 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 2 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 3 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 4 (2 Cash Hit, Common)
Level 5 (2 Cash hit+ Free Hit, Common)
Level 6 (3 Cash hit, Uncommon)
Level 7 (4 Cash hit, Common)

I'm assuming i need to drop below 300 Allies to start Impacting my results? Has anyone started to play around with Ally Count to determine the factor?

Thanks

SirNinja
07-10-2012, 11:48 PM
Level 60: 15k Attack 480 Allies (but i only bring 300 into battle)
Level 1 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 2 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 3 (1 Cash hit, Common)
Level 4 (2 Cash Hit, Common)
Level 5 (2 Cash hit+ Free Hit, Common)
Level 6 (3 Cash hit, Uncommon)
Level 7 (4 Cash hit, Common)

I'm assuming i need to drop below 300 Allies to start Impacting my results? Has anyone started to play around with Ally Count to determine the factor?

Thanks
Hi, Thief,
How can you tell how many allies you bring into battle?

Jhoemel
07-10-2012, 11:51 PM
Its finnaly fixed... got 3 commons

Q Raider
07-10-2012, 11:59 PM
Well I can already say there is no way I will get close to thirty.
Elite six is already 6 times as many hit points as Elite one.
Will take either four cash and four free or nine free.
Elite ten I think I can get with thirteen cash hits.

Elite 11 and Elite 12, I should be able to get with a couple of level ups in the next five days. By then it will be over 1 million hit points for number 13. The current rate of increase looks like pegging number 16 at 2 million and number 20 around 4 million.
Hopefully my first analysis is incorrect and the increase rate levels out but four, five and now six are coming in pretty well where I expected them.

Oh well here is hoping for a few rares between now and number 12, currently have one rare and four commons.

Luck to all.

manbeast
07-11-2012, 12:26 AM
Boss hits loot
1 1 free common ground
2 1 free common ground
3 2 free common ground
4 1 cash 1 free common ground
5 2 cash common air
6 3 cash common ground
7 3 cash common ground
8 4 cash common air

i think mine is still running about the same as last time. 9 should be 4 cash as well. lets hope for something besides a common though

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 12:30 AM
Decided to play. Before they fixed the glitch i had no chance but now im ok

Beat 4 bosses all commons

mickymacirl
07-11-2012, 12:42 AM
I've one question, was this play tested? Because it certainly doesn't seem like it.

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 12:56 AM
Cmon funzio give me a rare, last event 9 common and 1 uncommon,


This event 4 commons so far, hahaha, im not whining coz its free indestructable

manbeast
07-11-2012, 01:19 AM
number 9- another common helicopter. jeez..

who is getting all the rares!??

Warfiend
07-11-2012, 01:30 AM
I got 8 with 7 free hits. All commons so far.

Bronson
07-11-2012, 01:34 AM
Dam only just noticed this event. Wacked 3 bosses so far and got all the common ground unit which sucks.

I need this ship in my life and have 28m on hand should I spend it all on attack units???

Bronson
07-11-2012, 01:47 AM
Update
3 common ground
1 common air

ckos
07-11-2012, 02:11 AM
Sorry guys if this has been answered before, this is my first boss attempt..sat the last one out.

The greater amount of allies/units I have, the greater damage to the boss?

Is there a strategy link? I've read the Link to Manbeast's 13 hit, and I read one by, I believe Capt Gin.

Right now, I'm level 93, with only 40 allies.

Thanks all

Bronson
07-11-2012, 02:13 AM
Ckos - yes the higher your attack the more damage you do

Prisoner of War
07-11-2012, 02:24 AM
So much for trying to camp huh,well here's me so far:
Boss / hits / Loot
1 / 1 (free) / Base transport (Common)
2 / 1 (free) / Seaside Runner (Uncommon)
3 / 2 (free) / Base Transport (Common)
4 / 3 (free) / Base Infiltrator (Common)
5 / 4 (free) / Base Transport (Common)
6 / 5 (free) / Base Transport (Common)
7 / 6 (free) / Base Transport (Common)
8 / 7 (free) /Coast Command (Rare) ;)

I'll keep updating ,GOOD LUCK ALL!!

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 02:25 AM
Ok boss 5 down. Still only using free. Received experienced fighter.

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 02:34 AM
What are the stats on the General Command Ship?

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 02:40 AM
Dagnabbit.....:mad:

Was checking out how much damage free shots were doing on my Elite number seven to keep a check on how fast his hits are increasing (high tech stuff, I was using a ruler).

Accidentally hit the Megahit tab:o

Dusted him good and proper (another common) but I'm not sure how much the increase was now. Guess I will just have to reverse engineer it on number 8....

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 02:44 AM
Ignored the last event, but WANT this ship! What is the 'accepted' strategy for getting to 30? Is there a McDoc strategy yet?

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 02:48 AM
According to the Toolkit for MW(Thanks Khimsoo) the General Command Ship has 510 attack and 840 defense

Grabbed that from an earlier post on this thread TC.

Timing correctly will get you thirteen hits within the time limit.
A level up gets you to 18.

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 02:49 AM
Prize tally:
3 straight infantry common
1 common ground
1 common air


Oh cmon, give me something else :p

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 02:53 AM
According to the Toolkit for MW(Thanks Khimsoo) the General Command Ship has 510 attack and 840 defense Grabbed that from an earlier post on this thread TC.Timing correctly will get you thirteen hits within the time limit.A level up gets you to 18.Thanks QR!

I guess its gold after 18? Best used on health packs or megahits?

How long does it take for my health bar to fully recharge?

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 02:54 AM
Thanks QR!

I guess its gold after 18? Best used on health packs or megahits?

Totally health packs tc, megahit is not so mega anymore

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 02:57 AM
Ignored the last event, but WANT this ship! What is the 'accepted' strategy for getting to 30? Is there a McDoc strategy yet?

Full Health to start with.
Do NOT hit him for four times straight first up.
Hit for a MAXIMUM of THREE, wait a minute or two then go again, that will give you one additional hit.
Wait for 26-27 minutes and then hit him twice.
Repeating this at each 26-27 minute timing allows you to get in Thirteen hits within the 2 hour limit.

A level up will put you back to Full health (just like energy and ammo) so keep an eye on that and use to your advantage.

Free hit is 67% of your Raw Attack Stat.
Cash hit is 100% of your Raw Attack Stat.
Gold hit is 400% of your Raw Attack Stat.

The health bar is 1 7/8th Inches long (47mm if you prefer). Measuring it does give you an idea of what damage percentage you are doing. Watch out for the damn megahit button though as it's easy to touch that when trying to work out how you are going...:o

Bronson
07-11-2012, 03:00 AM
Update
3 common ground
1 common air
1 rare Aqua bomber whoo hoo!!!

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 03:01 AM
Cheers guys! Gonna try and pop my event cherry this time!

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 03:03 AM
Update 3 common ground1 common air1 rare Aqua bomber whoo hoo!!!Pi$$ off B! You're shaking my tree!

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 03:03 AM
Update
3 common ground
1 common air
1 rare Aqua bomber whoo hoo!!!


Dang bronson, you got a rare before me. Hahaha

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:08 AM
I can't beat boss 6 and last time I beat him at 25 that's total rubbish and all 5 were commons

Bronson
07-11-2012, 03:09 AM
Pi$$ off B! You're shaking my tree!

Someone's jelly!!!!


Dang bronson, you got a rare before me. Hahaha

I only had 1 rare in last boss event so good to get this one and it's sea and it's the highest for attack so happy days!

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 03:11 AM
Well if I win a rare I would go bananas here in the forums, so congrats B, i havent won a rare yet even in the last event

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:12 AM
Well if I win a rare I would go bananas here in the forums, so congrats B, i havent won a rare yet even in the last eventI won only 2 but this one is setup i can't probably beat boss 10 at this rate yeah something suspicous here

Bronson
07-11-2012, 03:13 AM
Well if I win a rare I would go bananas here in the forums, so congrats B, i havent won a rare yet even in the last event

I had the Eventide Gripan or whatever it was called in last one but I think the stats on the Aqua are higher so well happy with that and all free option so far as well

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 03:15 AM
Someone's jelly!!!! I only had 1 rare in last boss event so good to get this one and it's sea and it's the highest for attack so happy days!Congrats, fella! Need some of your luck!

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:16 AM
Congrats on the rare Bronson hoping to snag one for myself then sink it wait it's indestructible or is it

Aidan
07-11-2012, 03:19 AM
500/810?? O meeee godddd!!

No chance for my main tho. Tascha might.
If you start with low ally and go up as you go on, you'll have a good chance hitting it with cash up to boss #27/28.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:20 AM
500/810?? O meeee godddd!!

No chance for my main tho. Tascha might.
If you start with low ally and go up as you go on, you'll have a good chance hitting it with cash up to boss #27/28.I can't beat boss 6 but adding allies now so I can punish him come on rare

ckos
07-11-2012, 03:21 AM
Ckos - yes the higher your attack the more damage you do

Thanks, looks like I'll be hunting allies down fast!

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 03:21 AM
Thanks QR!

I guess its gold after 18? Best used on health packs or megahits?

How long does it take for my health bar to fully recharge?

You might get all the way without using Gold TC, though at our levels that is unlikely.

Pure supposition this, but I think there is a relationship between the average stats of players within a certain range of your level that is taken into account when calculations on the strength of your Elite are being made. The Elites this time round are coming up with twice the stats they had last time for me.

You are both lower in level and higher in stats then me so should get a lot further without having to go the Gold route.

Good Luck.

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 03:22 AM
Seen off 7 bosses for 3 common air, 2 common ground, and 2 common infantry!

I'll say it before either of the monkeys does - guess I'm common after all!

Aidan
07-11-2012, 03:25 AM
Seen off 7 bosses for 3 common air, 2 common ground, and 2 common infantry!I'll say it before either of the monkeys does - guess I'm common after all!

You will always be the rare pervert leather wearing grand lad to me!

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 03:25 AM
You might get all the way without using Gold TC, though at our levels that is unlikely.Pure supposition this, but I think there is a relationship between the average stats of players within a certain range of your level that is taken into account when calculations on the strength of your Elite are being made. The Elites this time round are coming up with twice the stats they had last time for me. You are both lower in level and higher in stats then me so should get a lot further without having to go the Gold route.Good Luck.Cheers again, QR!

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:33 AM
Lv 1= 1 cash hit

Lv 2= 2 cash hit

Lv 3= 3 cash hit

Lv 4= 4 cash hit

Lv 5= 6 cash hit

Lv 6=8 cash hits

What kind of garbage is this I won't even pass boss 9 at this rate rigged I say

Bronson
07-11-2012, 03:44 AM
Lv 1= 1 cash hit

Lv 2= 2 cash hit

Lv 3= 3 cash hit

Lv 4= 4 cash hit

Lv 5= 6 cash hit

Lv 6=8 cash hits

What kind of garbage is this I won't even pass boss 9 at this rate rigged I say

That sucks flan. I am on boss 6 and still using the free option.

Aidan
07-11-2012, 03:52 AM
Flan, Add 20-30 allies every 2 bosses. Need to be at full allies for boss#30.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:53 AM
Flan, Add 20-30 allies every 2 bosses. Need to be at full allies for boss#30.I added only 10 allies I use the VIP and forum

bigflan
07-11-2012, 03:56 AM
Will log my progress

2x Battle air lift 9/27 (common)
1x battle transporter 17/20 (common)
3x offensive infiltrator 23/11 ( common)

Yay Its a commonfest I hate it events hate me

Probably will get all commons

Aidan
07-11-2012, 04:00 AM
Used tht strategy for my LLP last boss event. If i'm nt mistaken, i managed to pass up to boss #28 using cash options. Got the tank with few golds.

Vip is good but you need to buy it during your night time when the majority of players are log on

bigflan
07-11-2012, 04:08 AM
Used tht strategy for my LLP last boss event. If i'm nt mistaken, i managed to pass up to boss #28 using cash options. Got the tank with few golds.

Vip is good but you need to buy it during your night time when the majority of players are log onI refuse to spend gold and your LLP account is ridiculously strong

MadManDK
07-11-2012, 04:11 AM
Progress - @ level 10 Boss (5 cash hits):

3 x Offensive Infiltrator (23/11)
3 x Battle Transport (17/20)
2 x Battle Air Lift (9/27)
1 x Battle Runner (48/28)
1 x Battle Battle Command (100/113)

Happy hunting to all of you.

Poopenshire
07-11-2012, 04:15 AM
5 commons. i added 20 allies since the first boss and 5 took 5 hits to die. 2k attack increase was not enough it seems. Guess i need alot. More to have an effect.

Aidan
07-11-2012, 04:27 AM
I refuse to spend gold and your LLP account is ridiculously strong

Used lvl up strat then. My LLP is similar to yours.

Ps: i will tap you later today and post the pic. Gmt night time. Sry, been busy the last couple of days.

Bronson
07-11-2012, 04:32 AM
Just got the common air unit. It's good defense but rather get the higher attack loot to help with next boss.

Anyone get any rares or uncommons? The drop rate on those is low it's like a commonfest!!

Papa Tom
07-11-2012, 04:32 AM
Just got the ship,happy to get it but my parents are not movie stars or professional footballers so unless GREED start to act in a more proper way to the people who support them I for one won't be participating in these elite boss events anymore.Sorry for the *****n but there you go

Bronson
07-11-2012, 04:34 AM
Just got the ship,happy to get it but my parents are not movie stars or professional footballers so unless GREED start to act in a more proper way to the people who support them I for one won't be participating in these elite boss events anymore.Sorry for the *****n but there you go

You did all 30 already????

If so congrats!!!

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 04:34 AM
@ B and bf (for short of bigflan)

At least you won a rare man, and i hope you guys get more rares. Give me some of your luck

mickymacirl
07-11-2012, 05:07 AM
I cannot get passed level 11 boss even with gold... its just a waste at this stage, I'm bowing out of this event! 20 gold attack is doing about 1 out of 23 not including the gold needed to reset my energy. With my calculations worked out I would need close to 5,000 gold to complete this within the 6 days.

1 rare.. the rest commons.

Poopenshire
07-11-2012, 05:36 AM
I guess I cannot get away from this game. I permenantly "borrowed" my wifes Ipad2. I am even using it at work. I am determined to not let this event get me. I will be ready for boss 6 in about a half hour. I have a feeling I will be stuck at an earlier boss compared to last time, boss 16 was the last one I beat.

Thunder Child
07-11-2012, 06:05 AM
I guess I cannot get away from this game. I permenantly "borrowed" my wifes Ipad2. I am even using it at work. I am determined to not let this event get me. I will be ready for boss 6 in about a half hour. I have a feeling I will be stuck at an earlier boss compared to last time, boss 16 was the last one I beat.Good to see your cr@p again, Poop! Just finished #8, but I'm going to have to take care of the timing etc from this point... only just got him but the whole thing was unplanned and scrappy! Good luck, Poop!

Tctiger
07-11-2012, 06:11 AM
last boss event i got to 17 with no rares , this time i got the rare solider with the big gun on boss 5 so hoping my luck has changed , will need a lot more allies so get your requests in !

SeqWins
07-11-2012, 06:13 AM
7 straight commons.....Not complaining though...free indestructible units...

SirNinja
07-11-2012, 06:22 AM
Sorry guys if this has been answered before, this is my first boss attempt..sat the last one out.
The greater amount of allies/units I have, the greater damage to the boss?
Is there a strategy link? I've read the Link to Manbeast's 13 hit, and I read one by, I believe Capt Gin.
Right now, I'm level 93, with only 40 allies.
Thanks all

Yes, greater damage to the boss per attempt if you have greater numbers of allies. BUT when you have more allies, HP of boss becomes more. So it doesn't mean better when you have more allies.

Tctiger
07-11-2012, 06:26 AM
ar didn't know that dam so i just need to increase attack then only i tried that last time and it had no effect on my attack score on the boss.

big perm
07-11-2012, 06:29 AM
My boss will not come out, last event every raid he came out? Any ideas

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 06:32 AM
everybody who has got rare or even uncommon item should not complain here :) because it is really so far commonfest with only commons for me.

Hope it changes after lvl20, as last time.

Papa Tom
07-11-2012, 07:02 AM
I got to 30 and didn't get any rares but shed loads of the uncommons and commons,but once I got the ship I didn't really care

SirNinja
07-11-2012, 07:08 AM
Just finished level 7 boss with 13 cash hits. Yes, 13 cash hits. This means this event is officially over for me. I am level 55 UK and currently have 121 allies. Total attack is merely 4647. Two days ago, my attack was only 2900 with 75 allies. I managed to increase it but this made it worse as in previous boss event I got stuck at level 11.

I currently have Attack per ally (APA) ratio 38.40. I will try to increase APA by reducing the number of allies to 80 maybe. I would like to increase APA by buying more mid range weapon but I don't have much money left now. Will report back soon.

dokinus
07-11-2012, 07:10 AM
is it just me or does the boss have this invisible gun.

Sgt K
07-11-2012, 07:19 AM
My boss started at lvl1. Odd. Stopped at lvl 11 the last time I think.

Jhoemel
07-11-2012, 07:29 AM
Dang, the 6th boss game me some problems but I killed hi using free opens with 26min remaining, I hope I can get to 10 again. And after 5 straight commons, I finally got an uncommon

SirNinja
07-11-2012, 07:31 AM
Just finished level 7 boss with 13 cash hits. Yes, 13 cash hits. This means this event is officially over for me. I am level 55 UK and currently have 121 allies. Total attack is merely 4647. Two days ago, my attack was only 2900 with 75 allies. I managed to increase it but this made it worse as in previous boss event I got stuck at level 11.

I currently have Attack per ally (APA) ratio 38.40. I will try to increase APA by reducing the number of allies to 80 maybe. I would like to increase APA by buying more mid range weapon but I don't have much money left now. Will report back soon.

Well I reduced my number of allies to 80 and the Attack per ally ratio increase to 48.50. I attacked a level 8 boss and it looks like it's gonna take 20 cash hits to defeat him. So I guess I have to go the other way that is increase the number of allies and Attack number. Based on the stats of "Thief" and "manbeast", I (level 55) will probably need 200 allies and 10,000 Attack (bring my APA ratio to around 50). So I am out of this event and good luck to you all. In the meantime, I'd appreciate if you can add me as your ally.

Corsair
07-11-2012, 07:42 AM
5 commons. i added 20 allies since the first boss and 5 took 5 hits to die. 2k attack increase was not enough it seems. Guess i need alot. More to have an effect.I'm not so sure of that. No one has really yet found a proven strategy as far as adding stats or allies. For the last boss, I added allies throughout, started about 130 and ended about 250. Added as many high attack units as I could. But the number of hits to kill the boss was very consistently increasing from level to level. Roughly, I needed an additional hit every 2-3 levels from about 1-10, every 1-2 levels from 11-20, and every level from about 21-30. I predicted accurately (within 1 of 20+ used) how many medpacks I would need to go from level 20 to 30.

Maybe adding the allies throughout helped me, but I have a feeling it did not. Going to try to keep the same and just add attack as I usually do and see how it goes, for now.

Nooderz
07-11-2012, 07:46 AM
I am at level 134 with 474 allies and an attack of 46,743. It took me four cash hits to boss #4 to beat him. It's going to get difficult very quickly.

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 07:50 AM
Beat #6 boss- another common
Using free

Poopenshire
07-11-2012, 07:51 AM
Boss 7 just took 8 hits. thats with another 20 ally increase, after I started the battle. I am following pretty close the level +1 for hits, maybe if I add enough allies I might squeek out something above, but it doesn't look it.

Edit: Critical stats - Level 118
281 Allies
52730 Attack

previous event
Level 117
430 Allies
64935 Attack

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 07:53 AM
Well I reduced my number of allies to 80 and the Attack per ally ratio increase to 48.50. I attacked a level 8 boss and it looks like it's gonna take 20 cash hits to defeat him. So I guess I have to go the other way that is increase the number of allies and Attack number. Based on the stats of "Thief" and "manbeast", I (level 55) will probably need 200 allies and 10,000 Attack (bring my APA ratio to around 50). So I am out of this event and good luck to you all. In the meantime, I'd appreciate if you can add me as your ally.

Let me give my own opinion. Firstly - your attack stat for your level seems way too low for having any bigger chances with this event. I speak as lvl31 free player with like 2 weeks of playing experience. So I don't really fancy your chances here.

Secondly - for me, increasing nb of allies, or in other words - maximising my attack stat - worked clearly well. In first event I was going up to lvl22 or 23 without touching my allies. It would end there, but then I increased ally number in order to bring even my weakest units who have at least some attack >0, and I managed to go further in the event. In the end I got my warlord tank, but using up one medkit in 30th round.

So take care of your attack number - you can impact it in two ways - buying units and allies for bringing in all units able to attack. Clearly it will not lead you to lvl30, but 5-10 more levels could be expected for you. Really - depends what you have in inventory and how much value increasing allies number can bring.

For me it WORKS in both boss events.

And somebody asked regarding cash and xsp - you get it with every boss level. With increasing level you get increasing amount of cash and xsp, imo.

ckos
07-11-2012, 08:18 AM
Hmmm, I think I'll be camping for allies. I'm at level 6 boss and am taking a beating. Hopefully by the end, I'll have enough time to to get the grand prize!

Currently 50 allies, A/D: 10k/11k

enahs1
07-11-2012, 08:22 AM
I have gotten these unit so far
1. Common ground unit
2. Uncommon sea unit
3. Common ground unit
4. Common air unit
5. Common infantry unit
6. Uncommon air unit

Poopenshire
07-11-2012, 08:23 AM
7 commons. I am going great on this one.

Ryans67
07-11-2012, 08:24 AM
My problem with adding allies is that I have to add significant units with good stats. It's funny how after all of the complaining about the last event and the absurd strength of the bosses for the higher level players, and nothing changed.

Selfproclaimed
07-11-2012, 08:25 AM
Clearly, to reach and beat 30 , there's a good chance, gold will be needed. So as a consensus ,how much gold would everyone be willing to use to get the grand prize????

andymac106
07-11-2012, 08:27 AM
7 commons. I am going great on this one.

Same exact thing so far

Ryans67
07-11-2012, 08:31 AM
Clearly, to reach and beat 30 , there's a good chance, gold will be needed. So as a consensus ,how much gold would everyone be willing to use to get the grand prize????

Heres my take on the value of the prize.... Its worth spending about 50 gold per boss, about the same as a crate (old, not new). And as a bonus, you get a very nice unit. So for 1,500 gold, you get 30 units and a top tier prize. I think it will be different amounts necessary depending on stats, but that is the most I would spend. We don't really know the odds of the rares, but last event it was like 30%. This event I think its significantly lower, like 5-10% it seems.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 08:31 AM
I'm gonna cap out this event at 8 and at least I no longer level

-someone create a thread about this that starts with CCM he always respondes to it

bigflan
07-11-2012, 08:34 AM
Hey did anyone get the rare infantry u think no one got one yet

Bronson
07-11-2012, 08:37 AM
Boss 8 beat still free option for my second Aqua Bomber.

siL
07-11-2012, 08:46 AM
Just finished level 7 boss with 13 cash hits. Yes, 13 cash hits. This means this event is officially over for me. I am level 55 UK and currently have 121 allies. Total attack is merely 4647. Two days ago, my attack was only 2900 with 75 allies. I managed to increase it but this made it worse as in previous boss event I got stuck at level 11.

I currently have Attack per ally (APA) ratio 38.40. I will try to increase APA by reducing the number of allies to 80 maybe. I would like to increase APA by buying more mid range weapon but I don't have much money left now. Will report back soon.

SirNinja, i think you got your calculations wrong there....
If you want to calculate unit density, or as you call it APA, you have to multiply your ally number with 4 (because each ally, you could bring 4 units) is this what you want to calculate??
You have to beef up your stats for this event, because your atk density is low man...buy more attack power...
In my case for last event, i still have to spend about 400 gold to reach boss lvl 30, and my atk stat is 16k with 100 allies (roughly atk density of 40)
Good luck man...

enahs1
07-11-2012, 08:48 AM
Boss 8 beat still free option for my second Aqua Bomber.
What is an aqua bomber? The rare sea unit?

bigflan
07-11-2012, 08:49 AM
What is an aqua bomber? The rare sea unit?Yeah I have all commons and estimates this is my second last boss

Bronson
07-11-2012, 08:50 AM
Enahs - yeah the rare sea unit with the higher attack stat

manbeast
07-11-2012, 08:50 AM
Boss 8 beat still free option for my second Aqua Bomber.

well u are one lucky son of a gun

enahs1
07-11-2012, 08:51 AM
Wow, I hope to get one of those since I'm UK... Your lucky

Bronson
07-11-2012, 08:53 AM
well u are one lucky son of a gun

I know! Even if I dont reach 30 it was worth it just for these.

UK player as well.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 08:56 AM
I know! Even if I dont reach 30 it was worth it just for these.Share the luck man I'm struggling this event is a total bust all commons and this might be my last boss which me means I practically got nothing but Soem bad units at least I can get my aircraft carriers

Kiss Of Death
07-11-2012, 09:07 AM
SirNija below is not about you... just letting you know first.. I just hijacked your quote for the first section... not the bottom whine about all these free players out thee ruining my game for me :) lol.


Yes, greater damage to the boss per attempt if you have greater numbers of allies. BUT when you have more allies, HP of boss becomes more. So it doesn't mean better when you have more allies.

Definitely more allies means more hits on a boss... but dropping allies eventually gets you losing attack and the boss won't drop any more. I suspect that each player level has a base boss hit point value... then they selected a base number of allies a player should have at that level and a base density per ally of attack that is expected.

Pretty easy after that, each ally increases hit points by a certain amount and unless you can increase your density above that gain then don't add allies.

Problem is finding that magic number of allies for every level (200 of them)... so campers have a massive advantage if they have also been building up their unit selection while staying low level and can get a greater density than players like me who rushed in PvP style and raced up levels but can't afford high attack troops yet. Then gold players (also like me) have an advantage with density and dropping to that magic ally number.

I would never expect anyone to be able to beat boss 30 without gold... and that also means players who can already do that (WP I mean you) have gold units already so one way or another you need to spend to get up there.... but...

don't bloody whine! How many free indestructible units do you want without paying gold in all these events... ?

Maybe all gold players should start complaining all the free players are getting these items that we pay for... ?

So before complaining about how it's so unfair not to get top prize for free rather than looking at the free ones you ARE getting... if you complain enough... imagine Funzio's reaction when PAYING players complain that free players have too much advantage for nothing...?

Anyway... I think it's awesome we all get free units... I think those who have or do pay should get amazing units or at least a better chance... I think free players should shut up before they lose it all... Funzio wont give a rats if 50,000 'free' players quit.... but they'll care if a tenth of that i.e. 5000 paying players quit.

My thoughts only... anyone up for a challenge on this ?

bigflan
07-11-2012, 09:09 AM
Kod long speech

Still sad how does this happen to me boss 25 first boss event and can't beat 9 sad sad sad times and got all commons

bigflan
07-11-2012, 09:10 AM
I will challenge your speeche as soon as I read it

Kiss Of Death
07-11-2012, 09:12 AM
Oh,

and on boss 12 and going to bed.. kill him in the morning.... McDoc... McDoc... whee are you? you're supposed to be faster than a speeding jet... stronger than a locomotive! Grrrr... (not so grrrr on the faster than a speeding jet but I think you can get tablets for that one) Lol... but sadly I must admit, Bronson does have that ship and you don't... and an English accent (yes i know it's a Welshy one) is more charming. Perhaps both?

Good night boys.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 09:13 AM
Okay kod here is my counter argument flan style

Free players should not shut up they are how the game gets its popularity and supply people to beat for gold spenders

Free players like me have a argument I got to boss 25 without using gold on the first boss event and now cant beat boss 9 this is rubbish

Kiss Of Death
07-11-2012, 09:15 AM
Kod long speech

Still sad how does this happen to me boss 25 first boss event and can't beat 9 sad sad sad times and got all commons

It's because you quit... your MW account feels hurt and saddened by your rejection... love your device :) and it will love you too...

Flan... I am crushed by your disrespect giving me a 1 star vote... Come up a few levels and I'll give you a good thumping... so stay down low where you belong... we are at war honey!

Watash
07-11-2012, 09:42 AM
Well Flan, it looks like KOD has issued a war threat. How will you respond? Man up and go fight her or stay down and hide. No recommendations from me, just curious. I like you and hate to see you get thumped so maybe you should stay down a few levels.

manbeast
07-11-2012, 09:47 AM
KOD- i've considered that same exact theory regarding the boss's health points/level/ally number.

however it seems there is always an example that proves every theory wrong. i dont think WP or luke could have made it to number 30 on our event. the only reason they made it is bc they were playing the beta version. even pirates with 200k couldnt make it to 30.

example- me and poop are close in lvl and he had 20k higher stats than i last event. he stalled out at 16, and i made it to 24. its insanity.

and about free players complaining-
i agree. free indestructibles are great. however for this boss they have also nerfed the drop rate of loot. everyone is getting crappy ground units that dont even make it to battle. why should we be grateful for completely useless units?

bigflan
07-11-2012, 09:49 AM
It took me 10 hits to beat boss 7 Flanished

And once again got the common infantry that's 5 in a row

Warfiend
07-11-2012, 09:54 AM
Funzio wont give a rats if 50,000 'free' players quit.... but they'll care if a tenth of that i.e. 5000 paying players quit.

I agree in general on the whining and wish it would stop, however, I don't think the above is entirely accurate. If 50,000 active free players quit and weren't replaced, that would alter the game play. Strength is relative, and without a thriving large number of free players, the cost of becoming strong through gold would go way way way up.

To put it another way, Instead of having mostly free players on your rivals list with their free player stats, you'd have gold players with their gold player stats and you would have to spend to beat their average to experience a sense of being strong. That would reduce the number of people willing to spend money in the game, I guarantee it.

Also, tapjoy makes a lot of money for game companies. I have no idea what it's bringing in for gree, but there are iOS game companies who get the majority of their revenue through tapjoy. If Gree lost 50,000 free players who bring in 10 bucks a month through tapjoy, they would lose as much revenue as if they lost 5000 players who spent a hundred bucks a month.

So, while I agree that there's entirely too much whining, free players add to this game and help make it what it is. You take a substantial number of free players out of the picture, and the game dynamics change for the worse for paying players and for Gree's bottom line.

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 10:22 AM
Another common. That makes 6 commons 1 uncommon. Last event i only received 1rare as well.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 10:23 AM
I want a rare jdkskflssirhksoaozorjksosoakaiaim

Corsair
07-11-2012, 10:37 AM
Oh, yes, please, let's get into a gold player/free player conversation in the middle of the event thread... /sarcasm

Warfiend makes a great point, it would be really nice if we could leave it there.

Aaaaanyway...I have gotten up to 11, took me 7 cash and 1 free hit on that one. Still no rares.

Thief
07-11-2012, 10:41 AM
My thoughts only... anyone up for a challenge on this ?

KOD i respect you as a valued member of the forums and a key strategy player so i'll take up your point of view and give my input.

I will preface that by no means do i want this event to be easy and honestly i felt like too many individuals won the first event (soley based on the comments on the forums). I like the events and as a free player if i play the event and only get 1-2 uncommons and a rare then i will be happy. It certainly beats the crate events that i sometimes only get 8 and then sometimes 9 but NEVER 10. (Those are also more costly to me and cause me to level 1.5-2 times where this event should only cause me to level about a .5)

With that being said i would like to have a clearer understanding of how this event even works? We know that the event is based on Level and your raw attack score. While we have assumptions based on the fact that allies played an important role in the first event i question if it's the same for this event? I know you had some hard statistics on the first event but have you ran the same numbers on this event?

As for your comment about never expecting anyone to beat the event without gold.....I half way agree. I think that the Event should be difficult but it should be tiered so that the top 2% of each level (or level Bracket) set the baseline of being able to beat the Boss without gold and then all others if they wish to make it to that point would have to spend gold. (Thus Campers and Gold Spenders still have the advantage as you have said but at least Funzio has communicated as to how the boss is created....We obviously don't truly know what the top 2% attack value of the level are but we can get a good idea of how powerful the boss is)

I also think that Allies should NOT play an important role in defeating the boss (other than increasing your allies to max) This is a war game and while i level slowly i think those that keep maximum allies should have the advantage not those that keep low allies so that they don't get attacked. If they want to make it based on allies that's fine but then they should state what are the approximate value of allies so the players understand this component.

Finally when i come across an "Enemy" after the event who has the Warlord Siege Tank who is the same level as myself with the same Allies No gold Units and Half the Raw Attack Value of myself then i question how the recieved the unit? Obviously i have no proof that they didn't use gold but it would have cost me a few hundred gold at the very least to get the Tank and it would have cost him (who agian had nothing gold related) 3x the amount of gold that it would have cost myself. As for the Free vs. Gold Argument. Gold Players will always be the priority in this game and i believe they should. However the gold players buy gold so they can beat up on the free players (as battling each other is boring if everything can't die) Also i don't think gold players would complain that "free players" are getting units in the events as this event is inteded for players with high attack stats (almost always gold players) to get the 30 or at the very least much further than most free players.

Last Comment is: I made it to Level 19 for free on the 1st Boss. (max allies) Since then i have leveled once and increased my attack stats from 13k to over 16k (spending MILLIONS on Comandos) and i don't think i'm going to make it past level 16. (max allies still). While i don't expect to win with those stats i expected to make it to at least level 20 this go around with all of the work i put into my offense for this event. (granted i'll probably spend millions more to keep increasing my attack score but i was hoping this would push me even further in the event not try to break even where i was last time)

~Ace

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 11:00 AM
1. Common air.
2. Uncommon air.*
3. Common air.
4. Common infantry.
5. Common infantry.
6. Rare infantry. Wish it was one of the sea units :(
7. Common air.
8. Common infantry.*

Hopefully I can get some sea rares :p

spectra
07-11-2012, 11:06 AM
Well It seem boss #9 will take all 13 hits if I am lucky, and that will be my last
Another NERFTED event by FUNZIO/GREE-D

manbeast
07-11-2012, 11:22 AM
Well It seem boss #9 will take all 13 hits if I am lucky, and that will be my last
Another NERFTED event by FUNZIO/GREE-D

yea i'm really upset they nerfed it. after the last boss event i was really happy and thought it was a great reward for players with good stats who want to spend a little gold. but now even players with awesome stats are goin to have to spend 500+ gold.

dont fix it if it aint broken

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 11:22 AM
Definitely more allies means more hits on a boss...

My thoughts only... anyone up for a challenge on this ?

Any facts on the statement above? Just asking, because as I wrote previously, my first event gave me different results.

We are in one of many situation when we try to guess how the game logic is actually running. It is guessing.

As there was post regarding similar level and allies nb, but different attack stat players and a weaker of them had a warlord tank. Just the idea came that maybe Funzio specifies the boss strength by attack stat / days of playing.

Logically active attacking players are main target group for Funzio. If you are attacker, you are likely to be kind of person, who will need high stat gold units...

Anyway, I am just saying that we don't know exactly the mechanism, and in discussions we try to share our experiences and observations.

Bronson
07-11-2012, 11:25 AM
Your all getting to deep for me guys (and girl) I don't wanna work out exactly what I need to win I just wanna kick his a$$!!!!

Just hit boss 9 with 7 free hits and only get him down to half so looks like cash from here on out.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Everyone knows that if you wait a few hours in between bosses your life regains full heath right?

bigflan
07-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Your all getting to deep for me guys (and girl) I don't wanna work out exactly what I need to win I just wanna kick his a$$!!!!

Just hit boss 9 with 7 free hits and only get him down to half so looks like cash from here on out.

I can't beat boss 9 with 13 cash hits lucky

Bronson
07-11-2012, 11:47 AM
I can't beat boss 9 with 13 cash hits lucky

It's taken me 7 free and 4 cash and he has a sliver left so will hit him with another free in 26 mins for my next Indy and then start off on cash from 10

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 12:00 PM
Everyone knows that if you wait a few hours in between bosses your life regains full heath right?

right. Generally should be 1hp/min, but just in case I usually start next boss in 1:50-2:00 hours. 100hp is 1:40h.

Bronson
07-11-2012, 12:17 PM
Just got the reinforced guardian - 3 rares in first 10 battles!

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 12:19 PM
Congratulations? We are all envious yet happy for you

albeezy
07-11-2012, 12:30 PM
yay I got an uncommon on boss 7. Give me 1 rare out of the next 3-5 bosses and ill be happy
So far I have received
Boss 1 - 2 hits - Shadow Infiltrator 28/16
Boss 2 - 3 hits - Shadow Infiltrator 28/16
Boss 3 - 4 hits - Stealth Trembler 39/51
Boss 4 - 5 hits - Shadow Infiltrator 28/16
Boss 5 - 6 hits - Shadow Infiltrator 28/16
Boss 6 - 8 hits - Stealth Transporter 22/26
Boss 7 - 10 hits - Experienced Fighter 50/44

Bronson
07-11-2012, 12:32 PM
Congratulations? We are all envious yet happy for you

I know I felt the same last event where I pretty much sucked.

Thief
07-11-2012, 12:35 PM
Just got the reinforced guardian - 3 rares in first 10 battles!

Yea i'm Jealous. last event was much Kinder to me as i ended with 5 Rares and every unit.

This event i can only go a couple further and i only have 1 rare and 1 uncommon (but based on what others are recieving i feel even lucky with that)

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 12:36 PM
Just got the reinforced guardian - 3 rares in first 10 battles!

keep going :) crazy luck :) This time still only commons for me. Anyway understructables ones - I try to think like that :)

Bronson
07-11-2012, 12:38 PM
Yea i'm Jealous. last event was much Kinder to me as i ended with 5 Rares and every unit.

This event i can only go a couple further and i only have 1 rare and 1 uncommon (but based on what others are recieving i feel even lucky with that)

Yeah just to get 1 rare I was happy but 3 I'm over the moon so can't complain at all.

Hassleham
07-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Yeah just to get 1 rare I was happy but 3 I'm over the moon so can't complain at all.


Which ones did you get? I just got the infantry one but i'm UK unfortunately.

albeezy
07-11-2012, 12:57 PM
Funny, all GIN talked about after the last event was bring it back and now he disappears. Where's GIN at on this thing?

Corsair
07-11-2012, 02:01 PM
Gin (and Fifth Reich) were banned last night. Gin posted on his in-game wall that the ban is for 2 days.

Bronson
07-11-2012, 02:05 PM
Which ones did you get? I just got the infantry one but i'm UK unfortunately.

I got the infantry and 2 Aqua Bombers

bigflan
07-11-2012, 02:05 PM
I got the infantry and 2 Aqua BombersWhat give me one I'm sad as always

Bronson
07-11-2012, 02:06 PM
What give me one I'm sad as always

Sorry flan I'm collecting them I want to get around 8 lol

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 02:08 PM
Sorry flan I'm collecting them I want to get around 8 lolYou should really share the rares :D. I've got the rare infantry but would much rather have either of the sea units since I'm uk also :p

albeezy
07-11-2012, 02:09 PM
ah......................

War Priest
07-11-2012, 02:11 PM
What give me one I'm sad as always

You are. Haha, you live a depressing game life Flan. I feel bad for you.

Masterjojobinks
07-11-2012, 03:13 PM
Ok this is what I think I think between the last event and this one. First, I am a free player. I got through 40 bosses on the last event spending no gold. My guess is that Gree established each person’s attack value at the beginning of the event and set the bosses HP accordingly. I say that because in the last event my attack was about 5K (and it was easy to beat him). By the time I got done with the event my attack was 8K. I spend over 10 million in game cash to add units as I leveled and to get the best units I could. I did not have to wait to regenerate health until about round 25. I believe that is why I was able to progress as far as I did. When this event started my boss was at level 41, four hits and I did maybe 7% damage to the boss. This morning when I got on and the boss was at level 1 (thankfully), I hit him with the same 8K I did last night, one cash hit and dead. I am on level 10 right now will have to wait a full 100 mins before I can take him to about 15%. Then wait the remaining 20 mins to try to get him the rest of the way. If I still had 10 mil in cash to spend I could increase my attack by about 500, but no way I will keep up with the increasing HP of the boss. Won’t get to the grand unit this time.
Perhaps I will focus on keeping my attack level down for the next event and hope my bosses HP is set accordingly.
Makes me wonder, will dropping a bunch of allies drop my bosses HP level? I am sure it only go up from the value set at the start of the event. But if I drop a bunch before the event starts, what would happen?
Right now I just need 10 mil in game cash to spend.

Blackstone
07-11-2012, 03:22 PM
My guess is that Gree established each person’s attack value at the beginning of the event and set the bosses HP accordingly.

Aaahahahahha...

Bob_55
07-11-2012, 03:37 PM
Hi everyone, I need allies to defeat the bosses

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Just got my 7th common. I had to use cash on this boss though.

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 03:57 PM
I must be doing something wrong because when I do the 13 hit strategy I hit him 3 times wait 3 mins try to hit 2 more times but I hit him once and die I can't get the 5th hit in am I Doing something wrong?

SeqWins
07-11-2012, 04:09 PM
Ryan get a gold of Manbeast he pioneered that strategy and if you find out please post it here I wouldn't mind seeing it again.

Ryans67
07-11-2012, 04:12 PM
Ive been waiting 4 minutes instead of 2, because I was having the same result. So now I go attack at like 29 minutes or so. I get the 13 hits, although I've exhausted all the bosses I can do with cash only. LLP at 16, HLP at 7.

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 04:13 PM
hit 3 times, wait 1 minute (timer should say 1:57 or so) hit 2 more times. 5 hits

at the 1:30 mark hit him twice. 7 hits
at the 1:03 mark hit him twice. 9 hits
at the 0:36 mark hit him twice. 11 hits
at the 0:10 mark hit him twice. 13 hits

this gives u 10 minutes to use med kits and finish him off if the first 13 didnt do it. buy a med kit. hit 3 times. wait 1 minute. hit 2 more times. 5 hits for each med kit

This is what he said but when the timer says 1:57 I can only hit him once then I die :(

albeezy
07-11-2012, 04:14 PM
I must be doing something wrong because when I do the 13 hit strategy I hit him 3 times wait 3 mins try to hit 2 more times but I hit him once and die I can't get the 5th hit in am I Doing something wrong?
Yes. Are you starting with a full health bar? With full health (100) 3 hits takes off 3/4 your health (100-75) leaving you with 1/4 health (25). Health regenerates 1 point per minute so 3 minutes puts you at 28 health allowing you another hit causing you to lose 1/4 health (28-25) and leaving you with 3 health points to do another hit. If you start with less than 100 the whole thing is messed up

albeezy
07-11-2012, 04:17 PM
Question to the masses, I am not likely to finish all of the bosses so I was wondering when yall thought the next crate event would start. I am almost to a level up and am thinking of saving the XP for the start of the next crate event to get extra energy right at the start?

Before you even have to lift a finger WP, I already know, if I am not going to beat all 30 bosses why do I need to worry about having to wait 2 hours after initiating the boss to check my health status. What can I say, I need better Attack units

Corsair
07-11-2012, 04:27 PM
Ok this is what I think I think between the last event and this one. First, I am a free player. I got through 40 bosses on the last event spending no gold. My guess is that Gree established each person’s attack value at the beginning of the event and set the bosses HP accordingly. This is the way I am leaning. Manbeast actually brought it up at one point during the last event. What I saw is that no matter what I did, the boss strength seemed to increase in a relatively predictable pattern. Seeing the same thing in this event. This boss seems slightly stronger to me. I may need to use gold on 1 or 2 more levels. What I think it boils down to is unit density per level. I'm 3 levels higher and my attack density has gone from about 25 at the start of the last event down to 21.5 now, mainly due to additional allies.

It's also possible they just decided to make this one a little harder since the grand prize has slightly better stats, and a lot more people play UK than Germany. :)

Corsair
07-11-2012, 04:30 PM
with full health, hit 3 times, wait 1 minute, hit 2 more times. 5 hits

wait 26 minutes hit him twice. 7 hits
wait 26 minutes hit him twice. 9 hits
wait 26 minutes hit him twice. 11 hits
wait 26 minutes hit him twice. 13 hits

this gives u 10 minutes to use med kits and finish him off if the first 13 didnt do it. buy a med kit. hit 3 times. wait 1 minute. hit 2 more times. 5 hits for each med kit

This is what he said but when the timer says 1:57 I can only hit him once then I die :(See my edits above. Don't go by the timer in the game, use an external timer. The internal timer will only work if you aren't off in your actions by a minute or two, which is pretty easy to do.

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 04:32 PM
Yes. Are you starting with a full health bar? With full health (100) 3 hits takes off 3/4 your health (100-75) leaving you with 1/4 health (25). Health regenerates 1 point per minute so 3 minutes puts you at 28 health allowing you another hit causing you to lose 1/4 health (28-25) and leaving you with 3 health points to do another hit. If you start with less than 100 the whole thing is messed upI might know the problem I'll try once more when I get full health

Selfproclaimed
07-11-2012, 04:51 PM
When using gold, how is the mega attack?? Is it worth it ?

War Priest
07-11-2012, 04:56 PM
When using gold, how is the mega attack?? Is it worth it ?

During the last event it wasn't. Don't know about this event.

EDIT: Last even, the mega attack was like a cash + free attack put together. So it really didn't cause much damage.

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 04:57 PM
The Mega attack is equivalent to 4 cash hits.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 04:58 PM
The Mega attack is equivalent to 4 cash hits.

On what level?

War Priest
07-11-2012, 05:00 PM
During the last event it wasn't. Don't know about this event.

EDIT: Last even, the mega attack was like a cash + free attack put together. So it really didn't cause much damage.


The Mega attack is equivalent to 4 cash hits.

Yeah, looks like they adjusted it. Just tested it out.

Selfproclaimed
07-11-2012, 05:05 PM
Would you say it's worth it now? . I haven't yet ,and still unsure , If I do end up using gold, it won't be until the last couple days and if I'm actually withing reach

War Priest
07-11-2012, 05:09 PM
Would you say it's worth it now? . I haven't yet ,and still unsure , If I do end up using gold, it won't be until the last couple days and if I'm actually withing reach

Yes, I think it's worth it now. I am at boss 15 and still don't need gold yet, but when you do need to use gold, I would recommend using a mega attack from the start, then finishing the rest with cash if possible.

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 05:10 PM
Used all cash and still had to use med kit to finish off boss 9. My stats are high so i believe they made it even harder for others like myself. I thought i could defeat more bosses than this before having to use cash or gold. This could be a very expensive event. By the way i received another common.

Good luck to you all

Blackstone
07-11-2012, 05:17 PM
I must be doing something wrong because when I do the 13 hit strategy I hit him 3 times wait 3 mins try to hit 2 more times but I hit him once and die I can't get the 5th hit in am I Doing something wrong?

You need to retreat then wait 3 min.

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 05:19 PM
Would you say it's worth it now? . I haven't yet ,and still unsure , If I do end up using gold, it won't be until the last couple days and if I'm actually withing reach

If you are cashed up then use it on a Med Pack as you get five cash hits Vs an effective Four with the Mega attack.

I do a "Free shot" test on my next opponent to get an idea of what points are needed to defeat them. After 3 or 4 free hits you can get a reasonable idea. Number 10 for me will be close to 850K, within my reach with a level up coming up in a day or so but that will be it. From around 40k for number 1 to 850K for number 10, pointless going on with those numbers.

Warfiend
07-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Would you say it's worth it now? . I haven't yet ,and still unsure , If I do end up using gold, it won't be until the last couple days and if I'm actually withing reach

If I get close enough that I think I can do it with my about 400 gold, I'll do it.

Corsair
07-11-2012, 05:40 PM
Medkit is still a slightly better deal. You can get 5 hits out of one of those. Unless you need to save cash or run out.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 05:42 PM
Medkit is still a slightly better deal. You can get 5 hits out of one of those. Unless you need to save cash or run out.

Doesn't the medkit depend upon the level though also?

PreDFalcon
07-11-2012, 06:29 PM
KOD- i've considered that same exact theory regarding the boss's health points/level/ally number.

however it seems there is always an example that proves every theory wrong. i dont think WP or luke could have made it to number 30 on our event. the only reason they made it is bc they were playing the beta version. even pirates with 200k couldnt make it to 30.

example- me and poop are close in lvl and he had 20k higher stats than i last event. he stalled out at 16, and i made it to 24. its insanity.

and about free players complaining-
i agree. free indestructibles are great. however for this boss they have also nerfed the drop rate of loot. everyone is getting crappy ground units that dont even make it to battle. why should we be grateful for completely useless units?

I agree my units dont even make it on my list i am a gold spender and couldn' t pass 16 last time with 81k ahit plus the guy ran early 4 times this time i dont think i will pass 10 with all commons this is a flop for me.

PreDFalcon
07-11-2012, 06:32 PM
They should increase the run time to 4 or 5 hours and make you goto 50

War Priest
07-11-2012, 06:41 PM
They should increase the run time to 4 or 5 hours and make you goto 50

Not a bad idea but 30 is all you really need to get too. Anything more is just extra loot.

bigflan
07-11-2012, 06:42 PM
Not a bad idea but 30 is all you really need to get too. Anything more is just extra loot.I can't beat 9 I'm done

Poo

Being back the box events only at least I only gained 100xp

War Priest
07-11-2012, 06:47 PM
I can't beat 9 I'm done

Poo

Being back the box events only at least I only gained 100xp

Looks like my gold units are actually helping me. I read that poopenshire can't get past 9 either. I am on 16 and still have spare time for now.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 06:47 PM
Flan, did you wait a few hours for your health to become full before starting a new boss so you can get those extra hits in?

bigflan
07-11-2012, 06:47 PM
Looks like my gold units are actually helping me. I read that poopenshire can't get past 9 either. I am on 16 and still have spare time for now.Give your units there useless to you GIVE THEM

Lordsloss
07-11-2012, 06:52 PM
I'm at 9, looks like that's it for free.

Corsair
07-11-2012, 07:42 PM
Doesn't the medkit depend upon the level though also?Nope. It gives a full recharge so you can do 3 hits, wait 1 min, then 2 more. Equal to 5 cash hits instead of 4 with the super attack.

Hondo
07-11-2012, 07:46 PM
I just want to put this out there to see if i can help anyone figure out why there is such a large gap in the difficulty of the new boss event between players. I am at 14, I just got 5 cash attacks out of about 80% health. The last event I got off to a slow start, and with 3 hrs left I decided to buy gold for the first time to finish the event (i think i could have finished without gold had i tried harder in the beginning). I bought $15 worth and got the tank. I am at level 46 with a fully armed unit. I have only seen one other account that is anywhere close to my attack and defense. I am generally about 10000 higher than everyone else at my level. I hope this helps.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 07:46 PM
Nope. It gives a full recharge so you can do 3 hits, wait 1 min, then 2 more. Equal to 5 cash hits instead of 4 with the super attack.

Honestly, I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that. Must have been confused about something.

Vballmadam
07-11-2012, 07:59 PM
I dont know how they figure the attack on the boss. I could only do 7 using the free and 1 using all cash. Number 9 boss was cash with 1 medpack. Number 10is barely moving at all. There are too many bosses left to do all gold. Dont like to loose events though but all have gotten is commons and 1 uncommon. Like Flan debating whether to stop or not. Unlike Flan if i stop, i stop.

Corsair
07-11-2012, 08:08 PM
Honestly, I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that. Must have been confused about something.Hah, I was wondering too. Man you're too young to start in with CRS disease.

War Priest
07-11-2012, 08:14 PM
Hah, I was wondering too. Man you're too young to start in with CRS disease.

Haha

I think I was thinking about the amount of attacks depending on level.

Ryan5100
07-11-2012, 08:17 PM
On boss 12 im doing a lot better on this boss than the last one. But I also missed where manbeast said how to get 13 attacks on one boss. Bought the $50 thing of gold to use when needed :)

Giedrybe
07-11-2012, 10:38 PM
Not really tested and double checked, but it looks like that after beating the boss you are getting:

game cash = 4 x value of last boss cash hit
XSP = 2 x value of last boss cash hit /1000

Say cash hit costs 100 000 cash to hit. After beating the boss you should get 400 000 cash and 200 XSP.

Need to double check though. In case it is true, then you can plan your XSP development and estimate level ups.

Ryans67
07-11-2012, 11:02 PM
It was interesting on one of my last boss kills, the game did not award me any xp or cash. I closed the game to wait for my health to regen. Then I logged back about an hour later to see something and I had leveled. It awarded the xp while the app was closed. Wasted about an hour since I had full health from leveling.

ckos
07-12-2012, 12:28 AM
I've decided that I will continue as far as cash attacks and 1 med pack will take me. Currently at level 9 and have needed med packs since 6. Love the carrier, but I have better uses for my gold. All I'm hoping for is a rare item now (I feel calmer already).

WHAT...another crate event...AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

albeezy
07-12-2012, 12:47 AM
might go for one more. Most likely going to stop here at 9. Got 1 rare, 1 uncommon, and 7 commons. Not too bad for 20 gold. Wish I knew how the boss's strength was determined so I could prepare for the next event (get more attack, drop allies, camp, ...).

manbeast
07-12-2012, 12:53 AM
might go for one more. Most likely going to stop here at 9. Got 1 rare, 1 uncommon, and 7 commons. Not too bad for 20 gold. Wish I knew how the boss's strength was determined so I could prepare for the next event (get more attack, drop allies, camp, ...).

dont we all! mark better tell us this during his "ask me anything"

Giedrybe
07-12-2012, 04:53 AM
I don't understand something.

How the hell I was able to get to warlord tank like a week or so ago, if currently lvl10 seems my maximum?

It is not whining, just trying to benchmark my two different situation. Obviously I need to figure out what has changed.

In a week I leveled up a level or two. From base point of view, I was mainly building up money buildings. The rest of cash - from raids etc - was going to defense, which grew up quite rapidly and significantly. But when event started I also invested in quite a lot attack numbers. Allies nb stayed the same and was going everyday small decrease after Shamba event, so density increased with new units bought.

I cannot see any significant factor here. My balance of a/d has changed towards d, and now I have uncomparable situation with previous event. Any chance that players who have less than 50% of combined power in attack struggle here? Would be interesting to see if players advancing have higher attack than defense, and vice versa.

Bronson
07-12-2012, 06:32 AM
Just got rare #4 and my second Guardian

Arizona
07-12-2012, 06:50 AM
How the hell I was able to get to warlord tank like a week or so ago, if currently lvl10 seems my maximum?

It is not whining, just trying to benchmark my two different situation. Obviously I need to figure out what has changed.


Yes. If you built up D as you said, then that's maybe a factor. Try and build up Attack to compare with the last event, though I'd expect it would be higher today. At least it might give a fare comparison. Remember Gree can change the game mechanics to whatever they want, and rightly so to keep people on their toes.

Giedrybe
07-12-2012, 07:13 AM
I checked my data now, as I record it. Even on my first event total attack was a bit less that total d, about 45-47% going to attack. Right now it is lower at level of 38-39%. But density is higher.

Last boss event I believe I started somewhere at level of 23-24, finished with leveling up to 29. Current event started at 31, currently on 32. Attack is 3,5 times larger compared to start of previous event... So it looks like such increase does not compensate level increase. OR you are right that they just changed some mechanics.

Anyway, I am not the first and only one to be fully lost on what is change factor or key factor for success/misery.

Masterjojobinks
07-12-2012, 10:17 AM
So it looks like such increase does not compensate level increase.


I really think that the boss HP level is set at the start of the event for each person based on the attack value of the person when the event started. I don't think level or allies directly has anything to do with it.


I don't understand something.
How the hell I was able to get to warlord tank like a week or so ago, if currently lvl10 seems my maximum?


I am in the same boat, I breesed through the first event and now have to plan and stratagize to get past level 13. Looks like my final will be 14 or 15, unless I level and add about 8 mil in units. I have spent 2 mil on Eagle Fighter Jets and that have increased my attack about 800 points per hit. Still need 81 to max my attack.

Giedrybe
07-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Now, when it is clear that lvl30 boss is not for me, it is time to experiment. I've recorded some data from previous bosses.

Now I decreased allies by some 30 units. Increased density of attack with units bought and with previously mentioned reduction. But the attack itself is a bit lower than with previous allies. I'll see how it goes.

But I would also vote that strength of boss is decided at the start of event, so for me it does not seem likely that current changes with have an effect. But as I said, now it is worth to try.

Masterjojobinks, if you think that "HP level is set at the start of the event for each person based on the attack value of the person when the event started. I don't think level or allies directly has anything to do with it."

=> logically if HP are predefined according to your attack value at the start of event, then increasing allies will bring your low density untis into the battle and your attack power will be higher than at the start of event. So it should have effect if assumption is correct.

Anyway, let's see how increased attack density works...

Masterjojobinks
07-12-2012, 11:13 AM
=> logically if HP are predefined according to your attack value at the start of event, then increasing allies will bring your low density untis into the battle and your attack power will be higher than at the start of event. So it should have effect if assumption is correct.

Anyway, let's see how increased attack density works...

It was not my intent to infer that increasing your allies or units has no effect. It clearly does, I have increased by attack by 1000 points since the start of the event by increasind units and allies. I just don't think the Boss HP is set directly by ally count or level. I think the Boss HP increases a set rate per level beaten (it may even increase a certain percentage over the base amount, based on your current level), but the base HP is set at the begining of the event.

Thunder Child
07-12-2012, 04:48 PM
Half way... bleeding cash and mining gold!

Ryan5100
07-12-2012, 04:51 PM
Half way... bleeding cash and mining gold!Nice TC I'm also half way :D but looks like I'm done... I can't buy gold and I can figure out why

Ryan5100
07-12-2012, 09:46 PM
Should I spend 10k valor on stealth frigates and 2m on idk what but I have 2m over vault lol. To help on the boss? I'd spend more than 2m but I'm not sure on how costly the attacks get

manbeast
07-12-2012, 09:55 PM
Should I spend 10k valor on stealth frigates and 2m on idk what but I have 2m over vault lol. To help on the boss? I'd spend more than 2m but I'm not sure on how costly the attacks get

depends on your level. last event my 30th boss was 155k per hit

i'd say spend all the in game cash you can to help. if it'll save u gold, its def worth it

Ryan5100
07-12-2012, 09:58 PM
depends on your level. last event my 30th boss was 155k per hit

i'd say spend all the in game cash you can to help. if it'll save u gold, its def worth itThe thing is I need to have cash to attack. I guess I'll spend 5m on units but what? I already spend 3m earlier in the boss on commandos should I buy more of those or what?

Ryan5100
07-14-2012, 03:21 PM
After 5 hits on boss 23 it only did 1/4 damage... I'm thinking about quitting the boss... Could always buy geothermal plants with my left over gold. If I can only do 1/4 damage in 5 hits on boss 23 what would boss 30 be like? :rolleyes:

Vballmadam
07-14-2012, 06:08 PM
Just defeated the boss 30 times. I wont do this again. It cost me an arm and a leg to defeat him. Just Boss 30, including med pacs cost me 320 gold. Next event ill just play for free and spend my money on upgrades!

Good luck to all of you

boardgames rule
07-14-2012, 06:17 PM
Yea i decided not to go for this boss event because you need gold for it and i dont have any. Also it is better to camp as a free player than do the event if you cant make it.

War Priest
07-14-2012, 06:20 PM
Yea i decided not to go for this boss event because you need gold for it and i dont have any. Also it is better to camp as a free player than do the event if you cant make it.

I understand your point but getting indestructibles for free is pretty cool. Especially if you score a rare.

Vballmadam
07-14-2012, 06:24 PM
Yeah wp. Ill trade you 1 of your rares for 1 of mine. Unlike you, i only got 2

War Priest
07-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Yeah wp. Ill trade you 1 of your rares for 1 of mine. Unlike you, i only got 2

Would if I could. I only got 5 out of 30. :(

negotiator
07-14-2012, 06:28 PM
Just finished number 16 and so far have not received 1 rare unit.

War Priest
07-14-2012, 06:32 PM
Just finished number 16 and so far have not received 1 rare unit.

The drops are terrible. I think I got about 12-15 rares last boss event. Only 5 this time.

Vballmadam
07-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Wow wp thats great. I got 2 rare, 9 uncommon and 19 common. I wasnt as lucky. Last boss event i got only 1 rare. Did you have to use much gold this time? I did and dont know why.

War Priest
07-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Wow wp thats great. I got 2 rare, 9 uncommon and 19 common. I wasnt as lucky. Last boss event i got only 1 rare. Did you have to use much gold this time? I did and dont know why.

No gold last boss.

Vballmadam
07-14-2012, 06:41 PM
How did you do it? Is it because your level is so much lower than mine?

War Priest
07-14-2012, 06:47 PM
How did you do it? Is it because your level is so much lower than mine?

No idea...

Vballmadam
07-14-2012, 06:49 PM
If you find out - fill me in please and spread your luck in my direction!!!!!