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War Priest
07-03-2012, 01:04 PM
Have been thinking about this for awhile. I have 200,000 valor to spend. I have the 30% more attack from ground units so would get a big extra boost (supposedly) from all the Expert Attack Drones but won't see it.

Should I spend it on the helicopter which I will see the extra boost because I am Russia, or on the Attack Drone and not see the extra boost?

Expert Attack Drone 46/30 - 500 Valor
Elite Helicopter 37/48 - 600 Valor

Poopenshire
07-03-2012, 01:05 PM
I am up to 400 EAD simply because i have the Assualt bear.
I can build defense anytime, i want more offense, especally hidden offense.

War Priest
07-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Do you really feel it works from your experience with battles?

SeqWins
07-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Elite Chooper IMO...you're already Russia and therefore have the best potential for an attack score so go with the defensive driven unit....I might be a bit biased but I'm a defensive minded player I enjoy units with a higher defense a bit more..

magepker
07-03-2012, 01:16 PM
Have been thinking about this for awhile. I have 200,000 valor to spend. I have the 30% more attack from ground units so would get a big extra boost (supposedly) from all the Expert Attack Drones but won't see it.

Should I spend it on the helicopter which I will see the extra boost because I am Russia, or on the Attack Drone and not see the extra boost?

Expert Attack Drone 46/30 - 500 Valor
Elite Helicopter 37/48 - 600 Valor

Well heres the math, you'd be able to buy; 400 Drone's OR 334 (rounded up) Heli's unboosted that would be;

Drone - 18,400\12000
Heli - 12,358\16032

The difference between the two is 6,042 Attack for the drone, 4,032 Defense extra for the getting heli's... On that basis alone you should get the Drone's but lets add the 30%

Boosted would be;

Drone- 23920\15600
Heli- 13593\17635 (this is assuming the bonus is only 10% in country boost)

So... all in all, the drone is MUCH better purchase when you do the math, but that's if you have faith in Gree and Funzio that they're not bull****ting you and really giving you a boost in ground units.

but also, it depends on your playing style, are you aggressive? If not get the heli's for the defense...

i didn't take into account your other boosts though, the % of your airship hanger should be considered as well.

War Priest
07-03-2012, 01:20 PM
So... all in all, the drone is MUCH better purchase when you do the math, but that's if you have faith in Gree and Funzio that they're not bull****ting you and really giving you a boost in ground units.

That is basically what is holding me back from making the purchase. I don't trust Funzio and there may not really be a boost.

They said it would be updated by now but it's not.

Warfiend
07-03-2012, 01:20 PM
The way I would decide that if I was in your scenario is ask myself what will be more important to me at the top levels... being able to attack as powerful a player as possible, or being able to withstand an attack from as powerful a player as possible ?

Poopenshire
07-03-2012, 01:40 PM
I lose drones the same rate as Super Hornets, I would expect the same from the Heli. Remember Valor dies quickly no matter what.

manbeast
07-03-2012, 01:58 PM
i wouldnt get either. i'd wait for the 800 valor boat.

but if i was u and i had to choose between those 2, i'd buy the EAD. hidden boosts FTW

manbeast
07-03-2012, 01:59 PM
I lose drones the same rate as Super Hornets, I would expect the same from the Heli. Remember Valor dies quickly no matter what.

thats why u should save for the boat :)

Poopenshire
07-03-2012, 02:04 PM
I agree, i will save for the boat, but by the time i actually unlock the boat, I will have more than enough valor saved up. I mean i have all my valor while still not being half way to unlocking the heli yet. that EAD w the unit bonus and building boost is a 69 attack unit. thats not to shabby for 500 valor.

Maverick50727
07-03-2012, 02:27 PM
It will be up to you, but I went with the Water Cruiser. Here are teh top best valor units with costs and cunsumptions rates:

Stealth Frigate 31/18 275V .00125 Strong Against Sea
Super Hornet 36/26 350V .0015
Strike Eagle 19/11 150V .00315 Strong Against Air
M270 17/37 300V .00375 Strong Against Ground
Hardened Marine 31/35 400V .004
Expert Attack Drone 46/35 500v .004
Elite Ops Helicopter 37/48 600v .003
Elite Water Cruiser 41/64 800v .0015
Expiramental Soldier 64/61 400v .002
Elite Siege Tank 82/59 1,200v .002
Elite Ops Jet Figher 100/65 1,500v .0018

manbeast
07-03-2012, 02:29 PM
[QUOTE=Maverick50727;311582]It will be up to you, but I went with the Water Cruiser. Here are teh top best valor units with costs and cunsumptions rates:

Stealth Frigate 31/18 275V .00125 Strong Against Sea
Super Hornet 36/26 350V .0015
Strike Eagle 19/11 150V .00315 Strong Against Air
M270 17/37 300V .00375 Strong Against Ground
Hardened Marine 31/35 400V .004
Expert Attack Drone 46/35 500v .004
Elite Ops Helicopter 37/48 600v .003
Elite Water Cruiser 41/64 800v .0015
Expiramental Soldier 64/61 400v .002
Elite Siege Tank 82/59 1,200v .002
Elite Ops Jet Figher 100/65 1,500v .0018[/QUOTE

mav FTW!!! this is why i chose the water cruiser!! low casualty= less wasted valor!

Selfproclaimed
07-03-2012, 02:31 PM
I'd say , save it for a lil while longer until a definitive showing comes out of the increase. You've waited this long saving it,might as well save a lil longer. I know it's tempting to spend

Mcdoc
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
It will be up to you, but I went with the Water Cruiser. Here are teh top best valor units with costs and cunsumptions rates:

Stealth Frigate 31/18 275V .00125 Strong Against
Sea Super Hornet 36/26 350V .0015
Strike Eagle 19/11 150V .00315 Strong Against Air
M270 17/37 300V .00375 Strong Against Ground
Hardened Marine 31/35 400V .004
Expert Attack Drone 46/35 500v .004
Elite Ops Helicopter 37/48 600v .003
Elite Water Cruiser 41/64 800v .0015
Experimental Soldier 64/61 400v .002
Elite Siege Tank 82/59 1,200v .002
Elite Ops Jet Figher 100/65 1,500v .0018

But according to your numbers, The boat has the same casualty rate as the Super Hornet - and we all know how that plays out :/

I am able to maintain my Super Hornets now between 900 & 920 - kinda of the magic number for me. So I suppose I will switch over to the boat from here on out. I have the Russia Air boost plus a level 9 Hanger Boost - but I have been building up my a naval research center to level 6 for some Water unit boosts.

Now that I have a few powerful Ground units - I will upgrade the Electronics Factory to level 5 or 6. Eventually it will be smart to get all the boosts you can.

Makes me laugh when I see someone with the Russian Flag, loads of air units - and a level one Hanger - "Rookie" and obviously not a Forum participant :)

bigflan
07-03-2012, 03:00 PM
But according to your numbers, The boat has the same casualty rate as the Super Hornet - and we all know how that plays out :/

I am able to maintain my Super Hornets now between 900 & 920 - kinda of the magic number for me. So I suppose I will switch over to the boat from here on out. I have the Russia Air boost plus a level 9 Hanger Boost - but I have been building up my a naval research center to level 6 for some Water unit boosts.

Now that I have a few powerful Ground units - I will upgrade the Electronics Factory to level 5 or 6. Eventually it will be smart to get all the boosts you can.

Makes me laugh when I see someone with the Russian Flag, loads of air units - and a level one Hanger - "Rookie" and obviously not a Forum participant :)I'm Russia and mine is level 2 hahahahhahahahahah

Mcdoc
07-03-2012, 03:01 PM
I'd say , save it for a lil while longer until a definitive showing comes out of the increase. You've waited this long saving it,might as well save a lil longer. I know it's tempting to spendIf you wait too long though - those Sugarwalls might get Salty - LoLoLoLoLoL

War Priest
07-03-2012, 03:03 PM
I lose drones the same rate as Super Hornets, I would expect the same from the Heli. Remember Valor dies quickly no matter what.

Valor doesn't die for me as fast as you guys though. I haven't had a valor unit die in months.

Mcdoc
07-03-2012, 03:09 PM
Valor doesn't die for me as fast as you guys though. I haven't had a valor unit die in months.

So what is your meat shield unit? And if it's not the same as your meat shield - what unit do you carry the highest number of specifically to offset your Valor Units?

I used to farm AT's up to around 900. Been trying to keep them around 200 - but lately been hitting up Admiral Eno for cash so my AT's have dropped below 50. I need to go farm some more of them soon :)

I'm sure having almost half of my unit count as SH's is why I have lost so many. I used to keep them at 1150 - now 900 to 920 is easier to keep up with. Since I made Colonel the other night and finally was able to buy the Water Boat from completeing the Major Rank - I have been slowly building them up to offset and balance my forces :)

War Priest
07-03-2012, 03:11 PM
Commando's seem to always be my meat sheild. Which I don't care because I only care about gold and valor units and that's all I want in my army in the future.

Don't know what my shield will be once all the commandos die off.

Mcdoc
07-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Believe it or not - I often get the Tree Sniper As a PvP loot and build up like 20 or more then they die off within 30 Battles down to 3 to 5.

Those useless Defense Cannons, Armired Chargers, and The 2 Infantry units they dole out during the Crate Events must have the highest death rate of ANY units in the game - which sucks if you're opening with Gold as they technically cost you like a Gold Unit.

It would be nice since the that stats on those crappy units are pretty low if they at least had a low casualty rate since they are supposed to be a coveted prize for a success open :/

Hassleham
07-03-2012, 03:17 PM
Both. If you buy a lot of 1 unit then you'll get higher losses, if you buy half and half, then losses should be less.

What?
07-03-2012, 03:34 PM
You don't know what the next event unit could be. In the future it could be 30% boost to air and with your country boost the helicopter probably would be a better investment.

andymac106
07-03-2012, 03:49 PM
EAD because I have the 30% ground increase

War Priest
07-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Honestly, I lose a unit probably 3 times a month. And they are against other gold players with close stats.

Poopenshire
07-03-2012, 04:43 PM
You only loose a little because you send so few to attack if any at all. It would be nice to see your attack and def forces.

War Priest
07-03-2012, 04:45 PM
You only loose a little because you send so few to attack if any at all. It would be nice to see your attack and def forces.

Maybe gold have something to do with it. JMC said he attacked a guy with like 4 units and still had a casualty. No idea...

With Khimsoo's new app, I can get a pretty good idea what my defense units are.