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cookie monster
07-02-2012, 06:51 AM
With the increase in events with game-changing top prizes that are basically unattainable unless you're willing to drop hundreds of dollars, does anyone else feel like this game is beginning to lose its luster? I've gone from anger to apathy on the current event.


Also, on an unrelated note it feels like the further I go into the game the slower game play gets. i.e. Upgrade times... the need to stockpile RP and weapons, jobs taking so much energy. Anyone else experience this?

Euchred
07-02-2012, 06:57 AM
Yes but I just try not to think about it. I hardly spend stamina anymore and just go through the motions of upgrading and collecting.

Illuminati
07-02-2012, 07:00 AM
I was actually thinking the same thing. While the top prize (+10% mafia attack) is certainly awesome, to see where the top 50 are in their progress makes one realize how utterly unattainable said prize is unless you were willing to spend a ton of gold.

I think this is the first event where I've resigned myself to the fact that I will not be getting the end-event item. At least in the past, even though I always end up at 8 pieces, there was that very slight chance that I might get lucky and get the 10th piece.

For the casual player, this event will essentially confirm that the "end-game" in CC is utterly pointless. You can spend tons and tons of real money to obtain virtual in-game items which, at the end of the day, do what for you? You're either too powerful for anyone to successfully attack you, or too powerful to make successfully attacking someone else give any sense of accomplishment.

BeniBugatti
07-02-2012, 07:17 AM
I was actually thinking the same thing. While the top prize (+10% mafia attack) is certainly awesome, to see where the top 50 are in their progress makes one realize how utterly unattainable said prize is unless you were willing to spend a ton of gold.

I think this is the first event where I've resigned myself to the fact that I will not be getting the end-event item. At least in the past, even though I always end up at 8 pieces, there was that very slight chance that I might get lucky and get the 10th piece.

For the casual player, this event will essentially confirm that the "end-game" in CC is utterly pointless. You can spend tons and tons of real money to obtain virtual in-game items which, at the end of the day, do what for you? You're either too powerful for anyone to successfully attack you, or too powerful to make successfully attacking someone else give any sense of accomplishment.

Very insightful. I hope funzio reads your comments.

Dipstik
07-02-2012, 07:23 AM
Nope, I don't feel that way at all. If the fact that big gold players are stronger than you bothers you, then this game probably wasn't for you in the first place.

Luciferianism
07-02-2012, 07:25 AM
It's a great way to make money and keep the game afloat. You should have to spend a lot to get 600 attack and a mammoth 10% extra mafia attack. It makes more business sense this way than letting free players have a good chance of also getting it, if that were the case far fewer people would be spending money. I'd rather people be able to by success than the game to die out.

balax
07-02-2012, 07:43 AM
I was actually thinking the same thing. While the top prize (+10% mafia attack) is certainly awesome, to see where the top 50 are in their progress makes one realize how utterly unattainable said prize is unless you were willing to spend a ton of gold.

I think this is the first event where I've resigned myself to the fact that I will not be getting the end-event item. At least in the past, even though I always end up at 8 pieces, there was that very slight chance that I might get lucky and get the 10th piece.

For the casual player, this event will essentially confirm that the "end-game" in CC is utterly pointless. You can spend tons and tons of real money to obtain virtual in-game items which, at the end of the day, do what for you? You're either too powerful for anyone to successfully attack you, or too powerful to make successfully attacking someone else give any sense of accomplishment.

i totally agree,
this game is turned to a competition of who is spending more money
this is endless and pointless

RijilV
07-02-2012, 07:43 AM
Also a good sign of the end: players are directly competing with each other to out spend one another rather than against pure chance. All but the hardcore gold spenders are going to get tapped out from these events, in particular if they continue to be weekly. I'm quite sad to see this is the way things are going.

Nudie
07-02-2012, 08:05 AM
It's already the end. :(

cookie monster
07-02-2012, 08:14 AM
It's already the end. :(

Cue 'The Doors'

This is the end. My only friend, the end.

ShawnBB
07-02-2012, 09:06 AM
The reason I play this game is to build an awesome hood,
I don't care who spent more money and has a 90k or 100k stats, as long as they don't invade me.

My target for event is to get at least three items to help my stats so that I can fend off most of the free players.


The amount of money they jacked from those sick spenders has nothing to do with our free players, good attitude and good strategy can still hold on perfectly beforel shark pool.

kail
07-02-2012, 09:07 AM
I too get upset at how much money people spend that make this game less fun... I'd like android to get some love like the iphone gets. they get scratch cards and we don't... their events start a day before ours...

Crime city is in bed with apple?

sez
07-02-2012, 10:39 AM
I too get upset at how much money people spend that make this game less fun... I'd like android to get some love like the iphone gets. they get scratch cards and we don't... their events start a day before ours...

Crime city is in bed with apple?

I think it'll get smoother for the android users. It is pretty wild how much money some people must have spent on just this event alone. I know I spent 70$ U.S on this event and I have 18 chips. What's the top player at? like 118? It's crazy to me. It's not crazy that they are spending there own money how ever they want to, but just crazy at how much Gree can make off of it. I'm with ShawnBB, my fav part of the game is building up my hood. If being attacked and robbed bothers you that much there are ways you can get around it, but you will also have to make sacrifices. You can remove all your mafia down to 0, but you will not be able to complete any "Thug Life Goals" and also your inventory that you have worked hard to build will be almost useless, etc.

G Wiz
07-02-2012, 11:10 AM
Crime City is in transition to a spender's game, realized or not. The frustrated will fade away, the strongest will try to remain such and the way I see it is that funzio will have to create another "free" app to handle the gaps in power.

I mean 200k/200k stats? No event, will help me get there before the iphone 10 comes out.

Dangerous Greg
07-02-2012, 11:16 AM
I was actually thinking the same thing. While the top prize (+10% mafia attack) is certainly awesome, to see where the top 50 are in their progress makes one realize how utterly unattainable said prize is unless you were willing to spend a ton of gold.

I think this is the first event where I've resigned myself to the fact that I will not be getting the end-event item. At least in the past, even though I always end up at 8 pieces, there was that very slight chance that I might get lucky and get the 10th piece.

For the casual player, this event will essentially confirm that the "end-game" in CC is utterly pointless. You can spend tons and tons of real money to obtain virtual in-game items which, at the end of the day, do what for you? You're either too powerful for anyone to successfully attack you, or too powerful to make successfully attacking someone else give any sense of accomplishment.

I have to agree that there is a point where a good portion of the users will simply resign from engaging in competitive gameplay. At that point, revenue will fall off for Funzio/Greed. We shall see if/when strains law will come into play!

Eyelusion
07-02-2012, 11:17 AM
Crime City is in transition to a spender's game, realized or not. The frustrated will fade away, the strongest will try to remain such and the way I see it is that funzio will have to create another "free" app to handle the gaps in power.

I mean 200k/200k stats? No event, will help me get there before the iphone 10 comes out.

Last I saw it was 240k/240k and after this event an invisible 24k will get added to that, on top of the 20% invisible increase from the vehicles from the event before that. So, close or at 300k?

I'll be dead before I can sell a spending budget to my wife that would get me there.

Primal
07-02-2012, 11:39 AM
It's smart in one way because it gets people to spend money, but it only gets a few people spending a lot. I buy gold regularly, but I know there is no chance that I'll get this one....I'll just be happy in the top 500....especially since I'm always upgrading anyway...

sez
07-02-2012, 11:47 AM
It's smart in one way because it gets people to spend money, but it only gets a few people spending a lot. I buy gold regularly, but I know there is no chance that I'll get this one....I'll just be happy in the top 500....especially since I'm always upgrading anyway...

Will the "Top 500" item stack with the "Loaded Dice"? Hope so, that would be pretty sweet.

LeDude
07-02-2012, 12:08 PM
Will the "Top 500" item stack with the "Loaded Dice"? Hope so, that would be pretty sweet.

That would be sweet. It would be even cooler if they do the same thing they did with the Loaded Dice and boost it from 10% to 25% mid way through the event. Stacking the two bonuses and cutting upgrade time in half would be real cool... For those who end up with both anyways.

Dangerous Dan
07-02-2012, 12:28 PM
This is not the end. There are plenty of free players out there to rob and fight. The problem isn't on our end. It's funzio's problem. They have seen a decrease of good spending since the first event. Along with the decrease I spend they have also seen a decline in morale. Any smart business will see this and take action accordingly. This current even is only the first of many tests. It seems like a better format although they didn't fix the odds aspect of it. One day they will realize that you have to give the dog the bone every now and then. If you keep teasing the dog with the bone but never give it to him, he will lose interest. Funzio is attempting to work on this I think. I jut don't think they are working fast enough.

Plux
07-02-2012, 01:56 PM
The game's improving and evolving for the better. It's re-vitalising!

Most "Free-Spenders" who claim to have the moral high ground will have subscriptions aplenty in various guises. Gold Spenders regard this as a subscription to improved accessibility, like paying more for extra channels on cable of satellite. In the real world this is normal.

If this game was $39.99 as an App, nobody would buy it, same with other mobile game apps from various companies. Makes you wonder how long the games consoles have left as a viable product....
Edit: Where did all the phone boxes go....product evolution!

Brooklyn Boy
07-02-2012, 03:04 PM
This is not the end. There are plenty of free players out there to rob and fight. The problem isn't on our end. It's funzio's problem. They have seen a decrease of good spending since the first event. Along with the decrease I spend they have also seen a decline in morale. Any smart business will see this and take action accordingly. This current even is only the first of many tests. It seems like a better format although they didn't fix the odds aspect of it. One day they will realize that you have to give the dog the bone every now and then. If you keep teasing the dog with the bone but never give it to him, he will lose interest. Funzio is attempting to work on this I think. I jut don't think they are working fast enough.

+1 Interesting point of view Dan.

magebomba318
07-03-2012, 06:31 AM
The reason I play this game is to build an awesome hood,
I don't care who spent more money and has a 90k or 100k stats, as long as they don't invade me.

My target for event is to get at least three items to help my stats so that I can fend off most of the free players.


The amount of money they jacked from those sick spenders has nothing to do with our free players, good attitude and good strategy can still hold on perfectly beforel shark pool.

^Agreed
I play for the look of my hood and such, and still enjoy fighting and robbing, although it is getting tougher to find a non gold buying good player to match up against. It's pretty clear that when you get to a higher level a solid portion of free players just give in and quit, making the higher levels simply flooded with CC charity cases that insist on spending their welfare checks on gold.
For those who complain about such, and are free players, our voices are falling on deaf ears. CC does not give two ****s about us because we choose not to buy our fame and glory.
You know, gold buying wannabe's remind me of how really decent MMORPG's (not free to play ones with in game purchases either) always end up with a plethora of idiots who pay other players for in game money. Then when said player is in your group he is the ****tiest player in the group because he didn't grind like the rest did and learn the ins and outs. Instead he bought his way up the ladder because his intelligence level does not make leveling up without RMT a viable option. Before higher levels I would still successfully rob and win fights against

Kind of fell off track, but yea, I am still having fun as a free player and will continue to spend some of my downtime keeping my hood in check.

Another quick note, the best hood I have ever seen was actually a free player. It warmed my heart to see it lol.

Max Power
07-03-2012, 07:00 AM
As far as the spending contest for this event, all us moderate spenders can hold out for is people hitting their credit limit or going bankrupt. For all the nerfs the devs have done to protect "game balance", there has never been a further divide between spenders and non-spenders. All their events are for short term gain, typical corporate america. Chase immediate profits at the expense of sustainability.

I used to spend gold on occasional events if I liked the prize. Now, the way events have gone lately, I and many like me realize that a 10% boost in attack is essentially meaningless. I don't think there is a prize they could come up with that could get me to spend gold at this point. For the carrot on the treadmill to work, you actually have to have some expectation that there is a chance that you will get the carrot.

I am just building casinos now. After that, just getting to level 200 is the only thing left resembling a goal, other than just building economy.

I have a camper account, and it is a dedicated non-gold account. Seeing how game balance is so screwed up at upper levels, I really don't see much reason to move up anymore. I will never have a prayer as a non-spender. The balance is that bad. It's kinda sad that these guys are basically making this up as they go along. This game had such solid promise. I heard they came from other games, so you would think that they would know better than to make the fundamental mistakes that they have made. I can only assume that in spite of their experience, that just aren't that good in what they do.

AppleMacGuy
07-03-2012, 07:12 AM
I heard they came from other games, so you would think that they would know better than to make the fundamental mistakes that they have made. I can only assume that in spite of their experience, that just aren't that good in what they do.

No, you overlook a fundamental point...ultimately they were all in it for the promise of a big payday...in this case that was the buyout by GREE. Now GREE have to justify the price tag...

cookie monster
07-03-2012, 07:23 AM
As far as the spending contest for this event, all us moderate spenders can hold out for is people hitting their credit limit or going bankrupt. For all the nerfs the devs have done to protect "game balance", there has never been a further divide between spenders and non-spenders. All their events are for short term gain, typical corporate america. Chase immediate profits at the expense of sustainability.

I used to spend gold on occasional events if I liked the prize. Now, the way events have gone lately, I and many like me realize that a 10% boost in attack is essentially meaningless. I don't think there is a prize they could come up with that could get me to spend gold at this point. For the carrot on the treadmill to work, you actually have to have some expectation that there is a chance that you will get the carrot.

I am just building casinos now. After that, just getting to level 200 is the only thing left resembling a goal, other than just building economy.

I have a camper account, and it is a dedicated non-gold account. Seeing how game balance is so screwed up at upper levels, I really don't see much reason to move up anymore. I will never have a prayer as a non-spender. The balance is that bad. It's kinda sad that these guys are basically making this up as they go along. This game had such solid promise. I heard they came from other games, so you would think that they would know better than to make the fundamental mistakes that they have made. I can only assume that in spite of their experience, that just aren't that good in what they do.

Well said, I'm strongly considering going back to games where I have a chance to be paid back if I pay in.