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andymac106
06-30-2012, 03:56 PM
Ok so I'm level 118 and I just finished attacking a level 92 person.(no screenshot) What does that mean about whale territory?? That it starts at 90-ish now instead of 120?? When I was at level 95 I couldnt even see to level 100 and now I can see people in the 90's. Any insight or similar experiences?

Poopenshire
06-30-2012, 04:31 PM
Ok so I'm level 118 and I just finished attacking a level 92 person.(no screenshot) What does that mean about whale territory?? That it starts at 90-ish now instead of 120?? When I was at level 95 I couldnt even see to level 100 and now I can see people in the 90's. Any insight or similar experiences?

level 114, nothing such for me yet. i can still only see plus or minus 2 levels.

magepker
06-30-2012, 05:29 PM
i have that problem too, i have 1 page of the same exact rivals ranging from lvl 63-92 and all have atleast 320 allies (i have 190 now) if i reload the rivals list it goes away but every few reloads the same page will show up.

next time it happens ill screenshot it.

Agent Orange
06-30-2012, 05:48 PM
Don't forget kids that the rivals list looks at TWO parameters. Level being the first and the number of ALLIES being the second so depending on the second parameter you may see a much broader range of levels.......

Fifth Reich
06-30-2012, 06:22 PM
Then I start whales in 5 levels and I'm only 25,000/25,000 :0

Agent Orange
06-30-2012, 07:17 PM
Then I start whales in 5 levels and I'm only 25,000/25,000 :0

If I may, do not add allies, in fact you might want to get rid of a few more.....

JMC
06-30-2012, 07:20 PM
The level 92 is a bugged player. He can be seen on ALL rivals lists. A friend was talking about him but i can't recall his name exactly. Something like Lob? or Mob?

Agent Orange
06-30-2012, 07:20 PM
I'm at L162 and can see down to L92 and up to L200.

JMC
06-30-2012, 07:21 PM
I'm at L162 and can see down to L92 and up to L200.

You can see other level 92s and levels 93-120? Or are you basing your range solely off that 1 player.

Agent Orange
06-30-2012, 07:23 PM
The level 92 is a bugged player. He can be seen on ALL rivals lists. A friend was talking about him but i can't recall his name exactly. Something like Lob? or Mob?

Hmm American Flag player is La..be feel sorry for the poor guy.

Ok so scratch him then I see down to L120.

magepker
06-30-2012, 07:24 PM
The level 92 is a bugged player. He can be seen on ALL rivals lists. A friend was talking about him but i can't recall his name exactly. Something like Lob? or Mob?

L.u.e? cuz i see him too lol

but i see lvl 60-86 not including the lvl 92. and im lvl 66

Poopenshire
06-30-2012, 07:27 PM
I just checked my lists and I cannot see him. 114 with 425 allies

Fifth Reich
06-30-2012, 07:37 PM
If I may, do not add allies, in fact you might want to get rid of a few more.....I have added nearly 100 and I am at 370s. If I remove 80 I think I would still have 20,000/20,000

Q Raider
06-30-2012, 08:04 PM
His game name is Laube.

Level 92, rivals list says 455 allies but his stat sheet indicates 589 ish.

Also has a Siege Helicopter in his Sea units which is kind of odd.

Nearly hit him as he was in the right ally range for my Valor hunt, but when I was looking at his stats realised there was something very wrong and went looking elsewhere.

Notice a few guys have told him to contact support to resolve it, hopefully they will do so soon as I gather he is getting a few whacks.

Agent Orange, that is interesting re how far down you can see, now explains why I am getting a few hammerings by level 150 plus players but I cannot see them in my rival list, level 130 is the highest I can see up.

CAPT.GIN
06-30-2012, 08:10 PM
His game name is Laube.

Level 92, rivals list says 455 allies but his stat sheet indicates 589 ish.

Also has a Siege Helicopter in his Sea units which is kind of odd.

Nearly hit him as he was in the right ally range for my Valor hunt, but when I was looking at his stats realised there was something very wrong and went looking elsewhere.

Notice a few guys have told him to contact support to resolve it, hopefully they will do so soon as I gather he is getting a few whacks.

Agent Orange, that is interesting re how far down you can see, now explains why I am getting a few hammerings by level 150 plus players but I cannot see them in my rival list, level 130 is the highest I can see up.




What did you notice that was very wrong??? He had no money?

Q Raider
06-30-2012, 08:12 PM
Then I start whales in 5 levels and I'm only 25,000/25,000 :0

Agent Orange is giving good advice re the allies.

From my recent experience things don't start to get messy till around level 122 when there seems to be a swag of "low cas" players with around 300 allies.

Admittedly I came through the levels with a low ally concept and didn't find the open water till level 123 and decided to go to 325 allies.

Q Raider
06-30-2012, 08:15 PM
What did you notice that was very wrong??? He had no money?

No, his ally count on his stats wall is over 500, his ally count in the star on the rivals list is 455.
That is likely to be causing some issues for a start.
He has some good units, don't remember the cash but I think he was pretty well set up for his level.

And it was off that he has a Siege Helicopter 600/520 in his Sea units.

CAPT.GIN
06-30-2012, 08:48 PM
No, his ally count on his stats wall is over 500, his ally count in the star on the rivals list is 455.
That is likely to be causing some issues for a start.
He has some good units, don't remember the cash but I think he was pretty well set up for his level.

And it was off that he has a Siege Helicopter 600/520 in his Sea units.



Ohhhhhh.... He sounds like a hacker...

Tate
07-01-2012, 09:48 AM
Ohhhhhh.... He sounds like a hacker.... Gin, i would think that if this guy was a hacker he'd be able to adjust the issues, get hundreds of high valor units and have the no cas glitch. As for the rivals list, I'm at 67 with 205 allies and can see up to lvl 78, and I just gotta say, it was fun attacking someone at that lvl with 400+ allies and winning! Did my little heart good! On the other hand, I have been attacked by rivals as many as 10 lvls higher than me as well, thankfully didn't lose those ones tho.

andymac106
07-01-2012, 02:13 PM
There is another one. Dave level 91. dont know if I can throw the name in there.

Laube and Dave both have the LE Set bonus units. Could that have to do with anything??

Hassleham
07-01-2012, 02:36 PM
My rivals list recently started alternating between showing rivals sorted by level/allies and sorting by rank.
When it sorts by rank i can see levels 49 - 75 ish (i'm level 55) and any number of allies.
I've seen as low as 12 allies and as high as 1000 and i have 275.

Art of War
07-01-2012, 02:56 PM
I've been having a similar issue my rivals list for the last few weeks.
It would only appear to be using a players level as its criteria. I'm level 58 with 81 allies. My list shows people similar in level, generally within ten levels above or below, however their ally counts range from 15 to 340!

Q Raider
07-02-2012, 04:39 PM
There are two players I know of who are level 90's appearing in the whale zone both above 500 and below 500.

Trying to help one now (Dave) by sending him here to put a PM to CCM as support reckon nothing is wrong....

The other guy is Laube, both have ally count discrepancies between the rival list and their actual stats.

Poopenshire
07-02-2012, 04:42 PM
There are two players I know of who are level 90's appearing in the whale zone both above 500 and below 500.

Trying to help one now (Dave) by sending him here to put a PM to CCM as support reckon nothing is wrong....

The other guy is Laube, both have ally count discrepancies between the rival list and their actual stats.

Is it possible one or both were messing with those people that offer to "hide" you account and something goofed?

albeezy
07-02-2012, 05:20 PM
I have seen a level 92 and I just saw a level 94, Dave22k A/D 470 allies. I am level 139. Refreshed and see Laube lvel 93, 32kA/D. Refreshed again and those two keep popping up. See others starting at high 120s up to 200.

Q Raider
07-02-2012, 05:22 PM
Don't know, haven't asked that. But would anyone bother at those levels.

PM reply from CCM said that the way the battle lists are sorted might be behind it.

They both have over 1000 allies now but the list indicates 455 ish for them, perhaps they will need to do a purge and reset.

It is odd that Laube has a helicopter in his Sea units though....

Ryan5100
07-07-2012, 07:05 PM
Wow just got on to look for more crates by attacking and seen this? Wtf..
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg594/Ryanb5100/ee339be6.jpg

And this is what I am.
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg594/Ryanb5100/90d05bed.jpg

Ryan5100
07-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Yet again another terrible sight...
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg594/Ryanb5100/b5d9aaaa.jpg

Jhoemel
07-07-2012, 09:56 PM
That laube is appearing everywhere, ive seen him in my rival list also

Ryan5100
07-07-2012, 10:08 PM
That laube is appearing everywhere, ive seen him in my rival list alsoThis is crazy I can handle seeing like 70-80 but 107 with 500 allies and I have 200? That's just plain unfair...

Lordsloss
07-07-2012, 11:25 PM
I am a level 128, just Took about 2 million from a level 90. Probably thought his stats were fine for his level and had unvaulted cash. Guess again buddy. Hit him 20 times. All is fair in war!

JohnnyR
07-08-2012, 12:53 AM
Q- it could be that Laube's ally list got jacked with. Lot of my old allies I can't see right now, but they're on a list somewhere.... Ghosts I guess. My pending folder turned into my ally folder at some point, and all my allies got wiped. Still got messaged from time to time by allies who visited me afterward...

If anyone would like to do me the favor of visiting me and letting me know what my ally count is showing, I'd appreciate it very much. Just wanna see if things are matching b/w what I have on my end and what everyone else sees. My sig is up to date BTW. PM would be swell. Kinda wondering if the changes in my rivals list arerelated to my stupid ally list...

Q Raider
07-08-2012, 01:52 AM
Sent you a PM with your stats JohnnyR.

Q Raider
07-08-2012, 02:00 AM
I am a level 128, just Took about 2 million from a level 90. Probably thought his stats were fine for his level and had unvaulted cash. Guess again buddy. Hit him 20 times. All is fair in war!

Me personally, wouldn't touch him as he really isn't supposed to be seen by us. If he had attacked you, fair game, otherwise not for me.

From memory you experience the low casualty glitch, better hope it is still working as if you dumped on the wrong one you are likely to have a few visits yourself....

Tate
07-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Agree with Q, that is an unfair battle and his stats for his lvl are likely alright.
I've been able to see rivals on my list as many as 8 lvls lower with 72 allies. Wouldn't touch those guys.

On the other hand, I'm seeing lvls as high as 105 and 1500+ allies with some unvaulted cash so I'm picking my fights carefully right now. I'm at lvl 69 with 215 or so and I'm thinking that they messed with the rivals list pretty bad! And Support has to know that there is a problem but aren't doing anything about it.

As for what is showing, Laube isn't the only one. I have seen numerous showing between 200 - 355 with huge discrepancies once I look at their stats. Have taken pics to forward to CCMARK.

Ascent
07-08-2012, 12:46 PM
I just reached Level 130 and my rivals' list changed significantly...

I am not sure if they messed with it or this is the result of whale territory, but I noticed the following things which are new (I had 480 alies, and dropped to 420 but made no difference):

- I can see the top players (Level 200 with 200,000 attack) on the list regularly
- The list is no longer sorted by allies or levels but randomly mixed
- I can see a Level 200 player with 500 allies on the same page as a Level 127 player with 268 allies

WTF? Is this normal at this level or they messed with the list again?

I can see as high as L200 and as low as L120
I can see as high as 500+ allies and as low as 270 allies

Seems to me that there is no more hiding at my level from the whales, since lowering ally count simply puts me to a disadvantage (smaller army) without providing a hideout...

Can the high level forumites confirm this pls? :)

Q Raider
07-08-2012, 02:37 PM
Level 130 is currently the level when you can see up to the highest level. Seeing down to around the 120 mark is also correct. This might vary for the over 500 ally people, not sure as still working my way up to that point.

At 480 allies Ascent, you will be seeing the lower sectors of the 500 ally group but they cannot see you. At 400 allies I see to just under 500, apart from the obvious error of Laube. It is your choice as to whether you hit someone above 500 or not. If you do then obviously they have access to you via their feed.

Ascent
07-08-2012, 03:20 PM
Yeah, Laube puzzled me too... :D

How do we know that if I see the lower 500 players they cannot see me? My theory was that if they show up rarely (but do show up) on my list, then I must also show up on theirs, although rarely (which I can live with as a risk).

I am searching for a spot on the ally count where I can camp for a while and upgrade my over 30 million buildings... I have 600,000 valor which I plan to spend on 2000 MLRSs to give me around a 100,000 defense with composite, boost building, nation boost and the higher valued event prize gold units. This would give me peace of mind from most players but the gold whales to accumulate tens of millions outside the vault.

An thoughts on this strategy?

Miner
07-08-2012, 06:31 PM
Anyone else experiencing screwyness on the rivals list today? I am at level 75 with 188 allies and seeing guys at 108 with 500 allies. I took several screen prints for support ticket... Just curious if others are having similar issues.

Ryan5100
07-08-2012, 06:36 PM
Anyone else experiencing screwyness on the rivals list today? I am at level 75 with 188 allies and seeing guys at 108 with 500 allies. I took several screen prints for support ticket... Just curious if others are having similar issues.So it is u :p. and yes go back a few pages and I have a screenshot of a level 107 with 502 allies. I thought it was u that attacked me and never answered my question that I asked u

Tate
07-08-2012, 06:48 PM
Sent a ticket to support with about 10 pix of different issues. Let's see if I ever hear back. If I do, I'll let you know!

Ryan5100
07-08-2012, 06:50 PM
Sent a ticket to support with about 10 pix of different issues. Let's see if I ever hear back. If I do, I'll let you know!Ok thanks. Hopefully they fix it. Really don't feel so safe going for upgrades seeing level 107 with 500 allies and me being level 75 with 200 allies

Ryan5100
07-08-2012, 07:44 PM
I'm guessing they made it where u only see your rank and higher because I'm not seeing any ranks below me but seeing the same rank and higher up to level 107 so far with max allies

Miner
07-08-2012, 07:45 PM
So it is u :p. and yes go back a few pages and I have a screenshot of a level 107 with 502 allies. I thought it was u that attacked me and never answered my question that I asked u


Ha ha! I know I ran into a week or two ago. I thought I did reply to your post on my comment section. Sorry if I didn't reply. Wondered why I didn't here back from you! :) shoot me an ally invite or PM and I'll add you.

Miner
07-08-2012, 07:48 PM
That laube is appearing everywhere, ive seen him in my rival list also

He's showing up on mine as well. Just leveled to 76 with 188 allies. Just for fun I attacked one of the guys at over 100 with 500 allies and won without losing any units.

But then I checked another guy and not even WP with his ridiculous stats for 180 allies could have taken him down.

Ryan5100
07-08-2012, 07:49 PM
He's showing up on mine as well. Just leveled to 76 with 188 allies. Just for fun I attacked one of the guys at over 100 with 500 allies and won without losing any units.

But then I checked another guy and not even WP with his ridiculous stats for 180 allies could have taken him down.What were his stats? Bc WP has near 50k or over boosted..

Tate
07-08-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm guessing they made it where u only see your rank and higher because I'm not seeing any ranks below me but seeing the same rank and higher up to level 107 so far with max allies I'm not sure what you guys are seeing but I see all ranks, levels from 62 - 107 and allies from 15 to 435 so this is totally messed up! Started about 3 days ago, since about the end of the Epic Boss event

Ryan5100
07-08-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm not sure what you guys are seeing but I see all ranks, levels from 62 - 107 and allies from 15 to 435 so this is totally messed up! Started about 3 days ago, since about the end of the Epic Boss eventStarted 2 days ago for me and I'm seeing 150 allies to 500 and in setting at 200 also the levels in seeing is 68-107

Tate
07-08-2012, 08:21 PM
I'll check my email tonight to see if I got nothing back. Will keep you informed

bushobama
07-08-2012, 09:00 PM
I know! it's like anyone can attack anyone now?!

Zoltarov
07-09-2012, 05:41 AM
For me this rival list mess up started after the boss event when i saw a group of different level players with Laube topping this list.
Every couple of times refreshing the rival list i saw the same group again.
I asked some of them to be allies resulting in replacement by a new name.
Since this morning it looks the group is larger now, resulting in multiple pages of them, but Laube currently level 108 moved away from the rival list.
I am level 72 myself and can see now players level 68-82.
Those players all have similar characteristics, like over 4500 fights won and always are together on a rival list page.
It looks like when you are over 4500 wins you are visible for levels beyond your reach, but this is of course hypothetical.
Perhaps i can better stick to raiding an do not so many attacks.

I am a little bit sad that Laube is not in my rival list any more because I started to admire him last week.
He moved from level 93 to 108 in 5 days having over 5000 fights and increasing his A/D with more then 20K.
Even he had been offered protection from the pirates sometimes on his wall, who warned everybody do not attack him.
I was monitoring his stats every day and took some screenshots. Almost Hollywood material his fighting, must have been on Red Bull all week.

Miner
07-09-2012, 05:46 AM
What were his stats? Bc WP has near 50k or over boosted..

Both were well into the 50k range without boosts.

Q Raider
07-09-2012, 05:58 AM
Laube is still visible in the above level 130 range, he was level 111 last I saw. Dropped a bit of Gold into the equation to keep himself afloat looking at the number of missions he has done and that he has picked up a Leviathan in his inventory.

There is a new name in this mixed up list, something like Giauie, same scenario as the others when they first appeared, 455 allies indicated but well over 500 in their stats.

JohnnyR
07-09-2012, 07:24 AM
Laube is still visible in the above level 130 range, he was level 111 last I saw. Dropped a bit of Gold into the equation to keep himself afloat looking at the number of missions he has done and that he has picked up a Leviathan in his inventory.

There is a new name in this mixed up list, something like Giauie, same scenario as the others when they first appeared, 455 allies indicated but well over 500 in their stats.

Laube I keep seeing is level 111 and has 500 visible allies, and I do believe 500 in his stats.

Tate
07-09-2012, 07:35 AM
I know! it's like anyone can attack anyone now?! ya, damn, don't you just hate losing crates lol!

JMC
07-09-2012, 07:42 AM
Just attacked that dave guy by accident and he's actually level 122, rivals list displays him as level 94 though.

Tate
07-09-2012, 07:47 AM
Wow, that's a huge screwup! Have to check closer from now on....

Arizona
07-09-2012, 09:00 AM
Laube I keep seeing is level 111 and has 500 visible allies, and I do believe 500 in his stats.
I see Laube at L112 500 allies and stats in the 50k+. He's surrounded by others with a lowest ally count of 200+ up to 500. Same names all the time but around L70-71. It will probably disappear in a few days...hoping!

Ryan5100
07-09-2012, 09:30 AM
I see Laube at L112 500 allies and stats in the 50k+. He's surrounded by others with a lowest ally count of 200+ up to 500. Same names all the time but around L70-71. It will probably disappear in a few days...hoping!Dont u have like 100 allies though? Or can u see him. I can see him all the time and his stats are double mine :(

Arizona
07-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Dont u have like 100 allies though? Or can u see him. I can see him all the time and his stats are double mine :(I'm at 85 allies now. I'm not sure these guys can see us though. Not too bothered. If they attack they attack. I've checked a few of their bases out and they are stronger than me, Laube has the highest stats, but most of the rest aren't especially strong. If I added from my req list, I think I'd be ok.

Ryan5100
07-09-2012, 09:59 AM
I'm at 85 allies now. I'm not sure these guys can see us though. Not too bothered. If they attack they attack. I've checked a few of their bases out and they are stronger than me, Laube has the highest stats, but most of the rest aren't especially strong. If I added from my req list, I think I'd be ok.if they can see us I just got really lucky bc I had 18m on hand lol. Down to 600k now but I'd probably have to ally up and buy more mine launchers

Arizona
07-09-2012, 10:05 AM
if they can see us I just got really lucky bc I had 18m on hand lol. Down to 600k now but I'd probably have to ally up and buy more mine launchers
Last time this happened it only lasted a few days. Maybe same thing will happen again. Yeah you might have got lucky there with all that cash lying around. I'll drop by your base and see what you were saving for.

Miner
07-09-2012, 12:31 PM
if they can see us I just got really lucky bc I had 18m on hand lol. Down to 600k now but I'd probably have to ally up and buy more mine launchers

Ryan -- I saw you on my rival list the other day and you had just under that 18m on hand. My finger hovered over your avatar for a minute before I decided to leave it in your bank and walk away. Felt bad for hitting you so hard the other week!

Ryan5100
07-09-2012, 12:51 PM
Last time this happened it only lasted a few days. Maybe same thing will happen again. Yeah you might have got lucky there with all that cash lying around. I'll drop by your base and see what you were saving for.Oh u couldn't see it I spent 10m on composites upgrade (level 10) and 10 more mine launchers


Ryan -- I saw you on my rival list the other day and you had just under that 18m on hand. My finger hovered over your avatar for a minute before I decided to leave it in your bank and walk away. Felt bad for hitting you so hard the other week!Oh thanks! :) only reason I probably got me everytime was bc u raided my composites! Haha

Miner
07-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Oh thanks! :) only reason I probably got me everytime was bc u raided my composites! Haha

Never hurts to be smart in your attacks. Don't make me bring down the Leviathan on you! ;)

Ryan5100
07-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Never hurts to be smart in your attacks. Don't make me bring down the Leviathan on you! ;)Lol :D how do u get the leviathan?

Miner
07-09-2012, 02:41 PM
Lol :D how do u get the leviathan?

Buy all 4 LE units and hope you get the rare item bonus. Still can't believe I got it.

Ryan5100
07-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Buy all 4 LE units and hope you get the rare item bonus. Still can't believe I got it.Ah ok yea I won't ever get one. Look at my sig :p

Miner
07-10-2012, 08:37 AM
Ah ok yea I won't ever get one. Look at my sig :p

You know you can change your signature, right? :rolleyes:

Q Raider
07-11-2012, 02:13 AM
Odd things with the rival list, seems to be a lot of new names popping up.

Given what just happened I am wondering if there have been people not appearing on the list for a long time.
Cruising around and spotted a level 200 over vault at 12,300,000 so dropped in for a few hits.
Got one of $300K and then the "Can't attack" came up, but the flag was still showing above their character (often happens) so I kept going till I got another recorded hit (only $140 instead of $300K and then the game crashed).

When I went back in I had almost 5,000,000 extra and was missing quite a few units???

Still ended up almost $4 mil in front after replacements so was happy with that, opponent sent an unhappy face message a bit after so obvious that the hits were going on I just didn't get a record of them.

Then I remembered for some reason I had taken a screen shot of them and checked it. Wasn't 13 million, it was 130 million and there stats are under 30k defence. Cannot see how they could have gone so over vault and kept it safe???

Can't find them again now either......(But i am getting visions of flotillas of Aircraft Carriers:p)

Miner
07-11-2012, 05:18 PM
Got an update from support on this:

"We're tinkering with the rivals list now to try and get a better balance"

Hello Kitty
07-11-2012, 09:24 PM
Got an update from support on this:

"We're tinkering with the rivals list now to try and get a better balance"Ditto for my response Miner:

"The rivals list situation is due to the self-adjusting nature of the rivals list; we're working on that right now to get the best balance for everyone..."

Right now I'm level 71 with 130 allies and on one refresh could see down as far as level 64 with 544 alllies and up to 73 with 603 allies (on the same list!), but that changes constantly with refreshes.

hobofromthestars
07-12-2012, 11:04 AM
I hope they get that fixed - this is has made a week straight of getting attacked by levels 140-185, and i am level 128 - getting attacked by someone that is almost 60 levels above me is bull.

Jhoemel
07-13-2012, 05:59 AM
Look at this, well i feel for the guy

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc446/syuusuke09/575a96f1.jpg