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montecore
06-27-2012, 12:51 PM
How do you even get to level 82 with your best building being a level 4 house? I am sick of searching for leveled up lofts and finding level 1 sports bars and arcades.

sexkitteh
06-27-2012, 12:54 PM
I find good hoods at my lvl all the time...

maybe you aren't looking hard enough?

These past 2 days I've made about 3mill just robbing. The key is to find that guy with a couple of NC and visit him allllll the time...

Knowingmeknowingyou
06-27-2012, 12:55 PM
Level 132..... That's where my hood is at

Paulio
06-27-2012, 12:56 PM
I'm lvl 125 and more than 90% of the hoods are garbage.

Gaming Will
06-27-2012, 01:01 PM
I'm 116 and still find alot of crappy hoods.




Try dropping mafia to around 150, maybe there are some better ones down there. I dropped to roughly 260 yesterday and found some decent ones, mind you they were also a bit stronger than where I sit at (was 330ish).

Zendfrim
06-27-2012, 01:12 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, this thread makes my point about encouraging good hood development. No good hoods, no fun. Montecore, there is no level at which 90% of hoods aren't garbage. At this point in time funzio has made developed hoods of little use. There are still those that develop them anyway. Come see mine when you hit 99. There are many people I know with good hoods but they are vastly the minority.

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 01:26 PM
There needs to be an incentive to increase your mafia, level up, and increase your IPH. As it stands, cash pretty useless for anything except upgrading buildings to get more cash. Mafia size and level are arbitrary because you're only exposed to other people at your same power level, so getting "stronger" won't really accomplish anything. Until there is an incentive to do "well" (I consider leveling up and growing your hood to be pretty fundamental to games like this), you're going to see people holding back.

Rhino72
06-27-2012, 01:31 PM
There needs to be an incentive to increase your mafia, level up, and increase your IPH. As it stands, cash pretty useless for anything except upgrading buildings to get more cash. Mafia size and level are arbitrary because you're only exposed to other people at your same power level, so getting "stronger" won't really accomplish anything. Until there is an incentive to do "well" (I consider leveling up and growing your hood to be pretty fundamental to games like this), you're going to see people holding back.

Golden Defense gun at 312 attack 488 defense was a pretty nice incentive...

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 01:35 PM
No, the Golden Defense Gun was a reward, not an incentive. There wasn't single person in the game who grew their hood to get that gun. If they tell us that rewards like that will be given in the future, it will be an incentive. That's a nice start. Giving us something useful to do with our cash would also be helpful.

murf
06-27-2012, 01:39 PM
How do you even get to level 82 with your best building being a level 4 house? I am sick of searching for leveled up lofts and finding level 1 sports bars and arcades.

I'm L200 and I find it hard to rob anything that makes a significant impact on my income (to be fair, I prefer PvP)....75%+ of hoods aren't great and the vast majority of the last 25% do a good job at collecting or have insane stats...remember the 500th hood had 375k/hr income over L101. And a bunch of those spend a lot on crates too...I don't know how Babytway finds great hoods to rob....

Rhino72
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
No, the Golden Defense Gun was a reward, not an incentive. There wasn't single person in the game who grew their hood to get that gun. If they tell us that rewards like that will be given in the future, it will be an incentive. That's a nice start. Giving us something useful to do with our cash would also be helpful.

Yes it was a reward for people that had the foresight to grow hood income. That alone should now be an incentive to increase your IPH. I would guess most people think something like that could happen again. Your incentive now should be to grow your hood to get the next version of the Golden Defense gun when it comes out.

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 01:53 PM
Yes... that was my entire point on the reward vs. incentive distinction. I'm glad we agree now, and thank you for repeating my post in case someone had me on ignore =P

Sasha54
06-27-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm 116 and still find alot of crappy hoods.




Try dropping mafia to around 150, maybe there are some better ones down there. I dropped to roughly 260 yesterday and found some decent ones, mind you they were also a bit stronger than where I sit at (was 330ish).

Does that affect you with doing your TL - or are you finished.
I dropped a bit but was thinking of coming down to the 300's....

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Out of curiosity, can anyone think of a good reason why people with 500 mafia shouldn't be able to see and fight with people with 10 mafia once you reach level 120 or so? "I want to hide from people stronger than me" is not a good reason.

sexkitteh
06-27-2012, 01:58 PM
Out of curiosity, can anyone think of a good reason why people with 500 mafia shouldn't be able to see and fight with people with 10 mafia once you reach level 120 or so? "I want to hide from people stronger than me" is not a good reason.

I think it's a valid reason... why make godlike gold spenders... more godlike lol...

Sasha54
06-27-2012, 02:00 PM
I don't know either!
Yesterday I had my biggest score so far - 2 level 7 lofts - that gave me total of 300 K plus some other buildings - so highest I've done with 1 hood....

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Of course it's a valid reason... in fact, it's the only valid reason. I don't begrudge anyone the right to use an in-game mechanic to their own advantage, but from a gameplay standpoint, it's pretty stupid to allow people to do that. The point of the game, flavorwise, is to grow your economy and your mafia. Any incentives that work against those goals should be eliminated. If you want to keep only 10 mafia members, that's fine... but I should be able to pound you with my hundreds. If you don't like it, get stronger.

Dreno33
06-27-2012, 02:03 PM
There needs to be an incentive to increase your mafia, level up, and increase your IPH. As it stands, cash pretty useless for anything except upgrading buildings to get more cash. Mafia size and level are arbitrary because you're only exposed to other people at your same power level, so getting "stronger" won't really accomplish anything. Until there is an incentive to do "well" (I consider leveling up and growing your hood to be pretty fundamental to games like this), you're going to see people holding back.

i completely agree. the HLs don't seem as fun as the low levels b/c competition seems to be fueled by gold. No free player can excel much further in the HLs, ima stay down here(:

PawnXIIX
06-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Level 110 and most of these hoods are garbage by my standards. My standard being 2k/hit min. Spamming beach nightclubs, sports bars, and clothing stores.

I like finding clothing stores though...so i'm not complaining about that. There's never really anything. I come across occasional upscale clubs, lofts, and mid-level dominicans. Right around 100 mafia seems to be the point people start using lofts, and I noticed the hoods started to get better right around then.

dudeman
06-27-2012, 02:08 PM
I find it a little bit funny that apparently a majority of players don't understand the reason for having a strong economy. There are at least 3 reasons I can think of, but I guess they might depend on play style. I'm not a big fan of the "suck ass" strategy, and one of the only ways to not suck for free is to actively work towards increasing your IPH.

Robberies happen. This may sound like a contradictory statement to some people, but if you can't collect on time and you don't like being robbed, the best thing you can do is increase your IPH. 40% of $100,000 is way better than 40% of $10,000.

If you ever want to clear the maps you will need to buy equipment to unlock jobs. All I need to say here is that some of the unlock costs are ridiculously expensive, especially when some of the jobs don't even have the potential to drop loot, and if they do, a lot of the loot is junk.

Any other reason I have for working towards a high IPH is confidential. :p

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 02:10 PM
"If you don't improve your iph, you suck ass" - This is currently one of the best arguments in favor of doing it. That alone should tell you why something should change =P

PawnXIIX
06-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Any other reason I have for working towards a high IPH is confidential. :p

Whenever you're done building your pool filled with money you need to invite me.

I think it's just players being naive when it comes to IPH. They see these buildings that cost so little to build then don't know that upgrading them beyond a certain point becomes too costly if not harmful in the long run with insane build times and low boost of income. Then there's buildings that despite the cost provide so much in return so quickly that they boost your economy sky high. I think it's just luck if non-forum players pick up on this trend. If anything, they see it in other players hoods then determine it's worth value.

montecore
06-27-2012, 05:20 PM
I'm at level 82. Don't get me wrong, in that 10% of good hoods I find some serious gold - there was one guy who I was able to pull 340K from once or twice a day. At my level, that's a fortune. He asked me to stop so I did. That's what happens with most of my victims - I find a good hood, rob them blind, then eventually get a message asking for a truce and I'm too nice to say no.

As pointed out earlier, a lot of the guys with great hoods are also very good about collecting. So the hoods with the great buildings and lazy owners are very few and far between.

Sounds like it's a problem at every level. For the record I did try to build to get the golden defense but it was too little too late. I think I was in the late 40s at the time and just couldn't compete with the guys closer to 100. Wish they'd done more brackets.

Hank
06-27-2012, 06:24 PM
hood stop being garbage when funzio decides to make in-game cash less useless

joaquim
06-27-2012, 06:31 PM
there was one guy who I was able to pull 340K from once or twice a day. At my level, that's a fortune. He asked me to stop so I did. That's what happens with most of my victims - I find a good hood, rob them blind, then eventually get a message asking for a truce and I'm too nice to say no.

No,no,no you've got it all wrong. When a someone asks you to stop robbing them they're actually begging you to rob them some more.

Dipstik
06-27-2012, 06:32 PM
Yeah that's your problem. You can't complain about a lack of good targets when you avoid the ones you find.

mnju_03
06-27-2012, 06:38 PM
Ya'll don't know nothin! My hood is dope! The illest!

<3 Hz
06-27-2012, 06:38 PM
L197 and I gots two Casinos, blang blang!

Zendfrim
06-27-2012, 09:10 PM
hood stop being garbage when funzio decides to make in-game cash less uselessOnce again hank and I are on the same page.

Eyelusion
06-27-2012, 09:37 PM
I've not slowed to camp at all and am at lvl 188.

The best level that I've seen where 90% of the hoods are great is above lvl 165 or so. That's where the Nightclubs, Casinos, Office Buidings, High Level buildings, etc are in almost every hood. There's still some crap around, but there's also a lot of great hoods to visit.

Anything below that and it's always been hit or miss for me. Looking for a level below 165 where everyone has great buildings to rob is a waste of time...unless you like to hood hop looking for a great robbery every night. It's just not my style.....

If you camp and still complain that the hoods suck on your level, then....

Stop Camping and Level Up Folks!

Behzat
06-27-2012, 10:52 PM
Thats why Best Earners event with a reward of Golden Defense gun was a brilliant event and idea.if it is repeatable it can motivate people to make investments for their hood and this will make the game more fun.

Bala82
06-27-2012, 11:40 PM
I know how you feel most hoods i visit are not worth robbing and when i do find a good hood rob their defence way too high. I can't increase my attack much because i am non gold players and we don't have scratchers which really annoy me but what can you do. i was hoping new update would have these but patch update.

PawnXIIX
06-28-2012, 12:32 AM
I usually don't rob for money. Usually I sulk around trying to grab up all the uncollected RP that is lying around. Take advantage of these garbage hoods while they're still around. I say it everywhere I go hoping somebody else will notice. Clothing Stores + Meat Factories + Warehouses all drop 9+ per hit at level 1, and this is a good way to increase your RP quickly if you'd rather not fight. Right now i'm making 2x the RP in comparison per tap robbing instead of fighting :D

Take advantage of the players while you can ;D

Bala82
06-28-2012, 02:33 AM
Well i had thought of respect farming because i don't want level up too much :)

montecore
07-06-2012, 08:34 AM
I'm at level 92 now and while I still see some awful hoods, things are much better. My standards are pretty low - I'm happy to find level 4/5 internet companies/MTs and even level 1 UCs and crematoriums. I'd say the hoods that used to be mediocre I'd now call "good" and the ones I used to see as good are great. The 80s were rough although I could always find 2-3 people on each level worth stalking.