Collect Viles of Hellfire

[The_Red]

New box quest just started.

[The_Red]

Big winners:

Top 500
Doom Elemental
337/210 + 2% alliance attack

Top 50
Guardian Elemental
478/622 + upgrade 2 buildings at once.

[enahs1]

What?
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[Populouspapa]

sweet change of events as well

[enahs1]

I'm in the top 50 ;)

[Hoodcrazy]

Upgrade 2 buildings at once is game breaking! Sweet event i hope i get some goodies.

[The_Red]

Upgrade 2 buildings at once is game breaking!

I agree as well - that's a pretty significant upgrade for high level folks.

[Jnesbitt82]

New box quest just started.

Thanks for the heads up! It hasn't started on my game yet. I've finished the last two events with 8 on each. Maybe this will be the one!

[asdfg12345]

How come we only got 4 days to do this lol

[John Snow]

Upgrade 2 buildings at once is game breaking! Sweet event i hope i get some goodies.

You're probably going to have to cough up some gems to get this baby.

[asdfg12345]

You're probably going to have to cough up some gems to get this baby.
I can see every gem user paying extra for this. This bonus is huge

[Timbathia]

This is rubbish. I emptied my energy bar on mine spiders 5 minutes before this event popped up.

[John Snow]

With new brackets for the units, I hope the success rates are better. I've never gotten 10, can't imagine getting 20.

[lucita]

Cool stuff!
For those who's played CC & MW before, do you know how many fire (or equivalent) would be needed, roughly speaking, to reach top 500 and top 50?
Many thanks!

[John Snow]

Ha ha ha!! First open: No.

[Crazy Canuck]

Big winners:

Top 500
Doom Elemental
337/210 + 2% alliance attack

Top 50
Guardian Elemental
478/622 + upgrade 2 buildings at once.
How does this work? Where does top 50 and top 500 come from

[The_Red]

How does this work? Where does top 50 and top 500 come from

box open count.

[enahs1]

How does this work? Where does top 50 and top 500 come from
Whoever has the most vials

[asdfg12345]

How does this work? Where does top 50 and top 500 come from
Top 50 people with most lanterns

[John Snow]

The leaderboard's a nice addition.

[The_Red]

already people with 6/7 of them. Silly.

[Joe Brown1]

Top 50 with one vial and one box in the hopper:D - this makes it much more interesting!

Edit - leaderboard lists me as #50 - that won't last long:p

[Crazy Canuck]

box open count.
Just seen that. That's good to know it's total opened and not total boxes collected.

Even though 1 guy already has 7. I have only found 4 boxes so far lol

[The_Red]

Top 50 with one vial and one box in the hopper:D - this makes it much more interesting!

Edit - leaderboard lists me as #50 - that won't last long:p

Im in the top 500 and I haven't opened one. ;)

[Bea]

I want a box!

[Chups]

This is sweet! The top 2 players right now are obvious gem buyers.....LOL!!

[The_Red]

I want a box!

***blink***

[Populouspapa]

50 will be impossible for non-gemmers, I'm going for 500..

[asdfg12345]

Got my first sorry :(

[Joe Brown1]

***blink***

Subtle but quite effective as I lmao:cool:

[Chups]

I think ima buy a bag of gems.............LOL!!!

I just want to see my name on the leaderboard. ahahaha!

[asdfg12345]

I think ima buy a bag of gems.............LOL!!!

I just want to see my name on the leaderboard. ahahaha!
Make Funzio proud!

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Yeah - this event is going to cause some chaos. I had some gems so used to reset timer and have two files. But will have to do hour-by-hour now as way too tempting to buy more gems. I'd be in big trouble.

We'll know in two days what the top 50 will be like competing with. Lol!

Good luck to all!

[asdfg12345]

I will be happy once i get 20 vials lol

[Jnesbitt82]

Any advice on how to get the event started on my iPad? Its still not showing up.

[Chups]

Any advice on how to get the event started on my iPad? Its still not showing up.

Did you update to the latest KA?

[John Snow]

Any advice on how to get the event started on my iPad? Its still not showing up.

There was a recent update, you might want to try that first if you haven't already.

[ShawnBB]

Any advice on how to get the event started on my iPad? Its still not showing up.

Just updated my game in app store, and event showed up.

Hell of a nice move by giving out a leader board. Hopefully I will be in the 500 lucky dudes.
Top 50,LOL. 100 bucks might not be enough.

[Populouspapa]

lol 9 already (not me, leaders on the board)

[Jnesbitt82]

Thanks guys! I guess since the last event just appeared, I just assumed. Anyways, first box, middle option, and got my first sorry.

[LAX]

this event is sweet.

[Joe Brown1]

Hey CCM - good job with the new event - looks like you've generated some serious excitement!:cool:

[LAX]

i'm ranked 24 in top 50 yeaaaaa

[Jnesbitt82]

Someone is at 15 already. Wow!

[BrodawgCanada]

Big winners:

Top 500
Doom Elemental
337/210 + 2% alliance attack

Top 50
Guardian Elemental
478/622 + upgrade 2 buildings at once.
2% alliance attack, does that mean that we can bring an extra 10 members into battle??

[Bea]

***blink***

Yes, that worked and I have my 1st vial :)

[Bea]

2% alliance attack, does that mean that we can bring an extra 10 members into battle??

I doubt it, I'd guess just overall attack stat, ie not attack skill points.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

"Remember, ties are determined by level." (event rules)

So, higher or lower? I only ask because I'd be lower. Darn. Lol

[Dr. Dengus]

Very interesting change to the lockbox events. I like. I like.

Edit: So if more than 50 people get 20 vials , do they just get shafted and stuck in the top 500?

[Jnesbitt82]

Finally got my first vial! Probably my last with my luck. Lol

[Bea]

Already someone on 21!

[Dr. Dengus]

Oh damn. Never mind then, I assumed it capped at 20. That's crazy, wonder how many resets that person has done lol.

[Winstrol]

9 ? not 25 haha , thats just crazy

[Jnesbitt82]

Already someone on 21!
They have 23 now.

[Timbathia]

Already someone on 21!

23 now - seems kinda stupid. Why spend all that money to be first when you only need to be in the top 50? I would have thought pacing yourself would make better economic sense.

[asdfg12345]

23 now - seems kinda stupid. Why spend all that money to be first when you only need to be in the top 50? I would have thought pacing yourself would make better economic sense.
The ending amount will probably be really high regardless so they might as well get a head start.

[Chups]

Wow...you can go over the vials (20)?? Dang!@!!

[Euchred]

I'll be playing this event for top 500, The top 50 prize is way to good to expect to get close without spending real money. But 2 buildings at once would be a game changer good luck to those trying to get it :)

[roghorrorfreak]

this is going be a long four days, 5 viels just to get the first >.<. Forget sleep this week.

[jeffelms]

Why did it take so long for mine to start? I've been loading this game every 30 minutes for the last 3 hours and it just started on mine about 20 minutes ago. Now I have to try and catch up.

[Freekizh]

Oh sweet lord..and I only got 100 gems left...

Man..these are hard to open..anyone else find this? I've already blown my last 100 gems just to get the first one...uuurgh

[Nick-Clark1]

I've already accepted the fact that I won't be in the top 50 (top 500 though perhaps...?) because I won't be using gems at all :( Upgrading 2 buildings is completely groundbreaking, like someone else said.
Still an awesome event, thanks Funzio :D

[Everson25]

Leader on 26 already! That's just crazy!

[MaverickMunkey]

I'll be playing this event for top 500, The top 50 prize is way to good to expect to get close without spending real money. But 2 buildings at once would be a game changer good luck to those trying to get it :)

I agree that it is a game changer and I'm wondering of it is too much of a game changer. To be able to upgrade two building simultaneously is awesome but coupled with the stats of the units itself is - in my opinion - going a little bit too far.

[jeffelms]

I agree that it is a game changer and I'm wondering of it is too much of a game changer. To be able to upgrade two building simultaneously is awesome but coupled with the stats of the units itself is - in my opinion - going a little bit too far.

I think so too. The units plus the ability to upgrade two buildings at once is going to make those 50 people almost unstoppable. They'll be like the 1% and everyone else will be the 99%ers. Maybe we should have an occupy Funzio rally. LOL!

[Timbathia]

Oh sweet lord..and I only got 100 gems left...

Man..these are hard to open..anyone else find this? I've already blown my last 100 gems just to get the first one...uuurgh

Tried to open 2, got 2 vials (medium option).

[Funkey monkey]

KA is my first funzio game. I'm a free player. I got 10 on the first event and nine on the last. This one seems impossible for a free player. I'm still trying to play catch up from the last one. Curious, do you ever sit out of events?

[Skillzrock2]

This event is kinda ridiculous

[Skillzrock2]

I kinda just want to wait a little to spend all my gems and I have to work, so i can't lose too much sleep opening these things =/

[Hunterhan37]

This event is kinda ridiculous

Agree!!!!!

[Timbathia]

is anyone getting boxes pvp? I am playing catch up with my energy bar and these boxes are harder to find than I currently need them to be. Dont want to get too many exp points attacking others if it is waste of time though.

[bobfishcake]

Anyone else not getting the event? I have no updates in the apps store and no event......

[jeffelms]

Anyone else not getting the event? I have no updates in the apps store and no event......Mine didn't start till about four hours after the first post on here about it starting. It sounds like they are staggering the start time for everyone. Not sure why though.

[Crazy Canuck]

I love the idea behind this event but it is flawed that not everyone will have a chance at the top 50 prize.

If I had to guess it going to take $300+ real money to hit top 50. So as far as funzio is concerned it's a winner of an idea cause they will make our very well in this one!

I really want the top 50 prize but I don't know if I can afford to make the run at it. If I try and fail I would be some pissed at myself that's for sure

[John Snow]

I love the idea behind this event but it is flawed that not everyone will have a chance at the top 50 prize.

I'm curious why you think it's flawed? Unlike the other events where your level, your character's strength or income plays a role, this one seems to start on a more even playing field. Anyone can buy gems.

[asdfg12345]

I love the idea behind this event but it is flawed that not everyone will have a chance at the top 50 prize.

If I had to guess it going to take $300+ real money to hit top 50. So as far as funzio is concerned it's a winner of an idea cause they will make our very well in this one!

I really want the top 50 prize but I don't know if I can afford to make the run at it. If I try and fail I would be some pissed at myself that's for sure
The point is not everyone will get the prize. How is that flawed? Do you want Funzio to just hand out free units to everyone lol? Considering how good the unit is, people better throw away $300+ to get it.

[Futon]

It's a pay to win game, can't really expect much else. On the first KA event i got to 8 using medium option and still had 3 days left and never got another one. On the second event i got to 8 using the free option and had 2 days left and never got another one. This one i'm just gonna stick to the free option as well. It's pretty obvious that the big units are designed to push you into paying for it. If you have that kind of money to blow on a game then more power to you.

[DIrishB]

No boxes have dropped for me so far, but I'll keep at it. Realistically I'm thinking I may end up with 10 vials, maybe 20 by events end. May not get the top 500 (and certainly not top 50), but that's ok, I'm new to the game (started playing a couple weeks ago during last chest drop event and got 8), am currently lvl 30 and working on Infested Cavern and leveling up my previous maps to 5.

Have to say, this game puts Kingdoms of Camelot and other iOS RPGs to shame. Funzio certainly has a gem with this one (see what I did there?).

Good luck to everybody in acquiring Vials!

[tcapi]

Since the top leader is already 26 at this early stage and hardly any chance for me to catch up, jolly well go slow now and keep my gems.:o

[Doog]

Think I'm going "middle option" all the way on this one. No chance at top 500, but that's OK. I'd be happy with the 20 vials unit. 8?) Good luck, everyone!

[Crazy Canuck]

The point is not everyone will get the prize. How is that flawed? Do you want Funzio to just hand out free units to everyone lol? Considering how good the unit is, people better throw away $300+ to get it.I give them props on the event. I just like when everyone has a chance at the top prize without haveing to break the bank or even spending any real money.

Just my opinion, the box event you need some luck but it is possible to get 10 without real money.

[Jnesbitt82]

Just got my 3rd. Now I'm out of chest. Good night everyone, work starts at 5 am for me. Good luck!

[enahs1]

I'm not even in the top 500 anymore, this is sad

[The_Red]

Still amazed the people at the top are in the high 20s... thats a **** ton of gem money going into that deal.

[Freekizh]

Since the top leader is already 26 at this early stage and hardly any chance for me to catch up, jolly well go slow now and keep my gems.:o

Exactly..the rules have changed now..I'm not sure how it's going to play out..if ppl are going to just be happy with free opens thereafter and drift or go crazy at the end with gems..

[dudeman]

I thought this box event looked different than what we're used to seeing in CC, but 4 consecutive fails to open is my worst start to any event. EVER.

So fcuk this event. I'm done with it already. My tolerance for box events is nearly non-existent already, and starting one with 4 straight fails is it for me. Have fun with it everyone. Don't get conned into spending real money. All the box events are designed to separate fools from their hard earned.

DM out.

[jeffelms]

I thought this box event looked different than what we're used to seeing in CC, but 4 consecutive fails to open is my worst start to any event. EVER.

So fcuk this event. I'm done with it already. My tolerance for box events is nearly non-existent already, and starting one with 4 straight fails is it for me. Have fun with it everyone. Don't get conned into spending real money. All the box events are designed to separate fools from their hard earned.

DM out.
I'm about to do the same. 5 straight fails for me all with the in game gold option. I don't see me using gems for this one. If I was close to the top 50 or even 500 I would consider using gems. But now that I'm already this far behind and it just got started, I'm think I'm probably going to sit this one out. At least for using gems anyway.

EDIT: Make that 6 straight fails. All using the ancient spell option. WTF

[Freekizh]

I honestly think this is good from a long term perspective for 99.9% of us..I would think 50 players is a small number for a game changer compared to before where I would think more than 50 would have the 25% faster upgrade? Thoughts anyone?

[Dr. Dengus]

I honestly think this is good from a long term perspective for 99.9% of us..I would think 50 players is a small number for a game changer compared to before where I would think more than 50 would have the 25% faster upgrade? Thoughts anyone?

I think that's a good perspective. Curious to know how many people win the 10th event item prize on average. But limiting such a coveted prize to 50 people helps keep things about as fair as possible. Wonder if they will release this prize in CC or MW? Players have been drooling over such an item for a while now..

[Keltana]

Curious how many gem buyers are waiting to see who won the Double Currency event before going all in for Viles. Could make the end of this event very exciting :)

[Aoxoa]

I was lucky enough to get a vile on my first open, but it has been nothing but fails since. I'm not really complaining, though, because last time I started the entire first day with all fails and I ended up winning the 10th with maybe 2 days to spare.
So to everyone out there who feels hopeless to even get to the 500 club: I understand your frustration but don't give up. Anything is possible.

[Zesder]

I was lucky to get my first 2 opened on my iPad but both failed on the iPhone.
Pity I didn't realize the event was on. Some people where over 20 even before I even started.

[jeffelms]

Ok, this is just getting stupid now. I'm up to 32 boxes and haven't been able to get the first one opened. 7 tries with the ancient spell (middle) option and all have failed. Come on.

[Automaine]

Same here 8th try, nothing but sorry better luck next, can't get 1 Open since the event started.

[Hello Kitty]

Has anyone gotten boxes yet from PvP?

[Zesder]

iPad is now 3-3. iPhone is 0-3.
Lucky iPad is my main account.

P.S. how do I add a sig?

[dudeman]

Ok, this is just getting stupid now. I'm up to 32 boxes and haven't been able to get the first one opened. 7 tries with the ancient spell (middle) option and all have failed. Come on.

Yep, all fails for me too. I don't care, I'm just camping anyways so playing the events levels me faster than I can pay attention to keep up with. I played the gem event and the magic ring event and ended up gaining 20 levels for pretty much nothing. Got to 7 on both but I had to struggle for days to even get boxes to open in the first place. Then I had to put up with the endless fails after I did get a box drop. If Conzio thinks making people frustrated is a good business strategy, I don't see them sticking around for long. The founders already bailed when they sold the whole mess to Gree, so that says something right there.

[Freekizh]

I think the problem now is that it's a bimodel decision - do you think you will get into top 50 - pay gems, if you do not, pay zero gems. I am not so sure this is gonna be net revenue increasing if people play it this way... And the top 500 prize sucks!

[CounterSniper]

Has anyone gotten boxes yet from PvP?
Yes, yes I have :)

[tcapi]

As I have started late, I have 6 straight "sorries" so far. I should consider myself lucky, since we have 7th and 8th straight "sorries" above.:cool:

[tcapi]

I have got 2 PvP boxes too.

[CounterSniper]

iPad is now 3-3. iPhone is 0-3.
Lucky iPad is my main account.

P.S. how do I add a sig?

Top of screen. Forum actions > General Settings > scroll down left side of screen > Edit Signature

[Hello Kitty]

Yes, yes I have :)Thanks CS. I'm calling bunk on the "& earn exclusive items" for resets and opens - they stink if that's what's offered.

EDIT: for clarification, all I have been getting is valor and gold which isn't equivalent from what I could get in the store. so no value and not exclusive for an award proposition.

[Timbathia]

Has anyone gotten boxes yet from PvP?

I tried about 10 times as the event started as I had just used up all my energy looting mine spiders so was desperate for a box. Not only did I get no boxes attacking someone with two thirds my stats, but I lost 3 manticores and a werewolf doing it. Stupid casualties.

[YLL]

I don't believe it. Woke up to find this event seems to have started just after I (and presumably, many other Europe-based players) went to bed and the Top 50 already have 8 vials and the Top 500, 3 vials! Doesn't appear likely that I'll even make Top 500. :(

[Great_wall2]

I don't believe it. Woke up to find this event seems to have started just after I (and presumably, many other Europe-based players) went to bed and the Top 50 already have 8 vials and the Top 500, 3 vials! Doesn't appear likely that I'll even make Top 500. :(

Top player has at least 26 vials now... Top 500 mins is 4 from what I see...

[Freekizh]

Has anyone gotten boxes yet from PvP?

I just started to PvP and I got 1 in 12 attacks, all different players.

[Populouspapa]

I just started to PvP and I got 1 in 12 attacks.

It all depends on how many boxes the defender has.. Most I got is 5 from the same defender.

[The1nONLY]

Top player has at least 26 vials now... Top 500 mins is 4 from what I see... correction 29 :)

[Everson25]

Im on 5 but as a free player can't expect miracles. Im still top 500 but I can see it will be very hard to keep up. All boxes got from pve. I didn't start pvp yet as I still have some boxes to keep me going. Also because I know pvp will be a bit hard at the moment.

[Timbathia]

Went from 2 for 2 (vials to tries), to 2 for 8. 5 sorries and 50Honor? what good is 50Honor.

[Everson25]

correction 29 :) you are top of pile! You can consider yourself with one hand on big price already.

[Populouspapa]

Went from 2 for 2 (vials to tries), to 2 for 8. 5 sorries and 50Honor? what good is 50Honor. you'd get 1/10th of a cannon for that.. Not bad at all, 9 more and you got one

[Arwin Stark]

Started late after updating the patch ...

3 hellfires from 4 attempts 2 spare boxes

Competition update .....
leader is up to 30 so far
top 50 is 9 so far
top 500 is 4 so far

Think the leader board is a great idea ...... good luck to all \o/

[YLL]

Top player has at least 26 vials now... Top 500 mins is 4 from what I see...

Yeah, and I've only just started! Gonna be impossible to catch up and break into the Top 500, given I have to work during the day and have a particularly busy week and weekend. It's especially disappointing as I was enjoying KA far more than I did MW. :_(

[eternalfire]

Does everyone start with 4 days left? I just got started and it has the 4 day left timer running o_O

[Everson25]

Does everyone start with 4 days left? I just got started and it has the 4 day left timer running o_OI would say started around 10 hours ago. European base could be in desadvantage as many could be sleeping already. I was lucky as just spotted before going to bed.

[YLL]

Mine currently says 3d:23h:13m. :_(

[eternalfire]

So I'm assuming the event started at 5 days left? Can anyone confirm?

[Everson25]

So I'm assuming the event started at 5 days left? Can anyone confirm?No, as far as I know the MW started first with half day gone then KA. It wasn't full 5 days.

[Bea]

10 fails in a row now...

[Everson25]

10 fails in a row now...Is it a record for you? How many do you have already? Have you been playing through the night or you are using a bit of gems to help the odds?

[tcapi]

9 straight fails, 1 vial, another fail, its going to be a long day.......

[Zesder]

Top of screen. Forum actions > General Settings > scroll down left side of screen > Edit Signature
Thanks CS. Never even noticed the forum actions button. I kept looking through the My Profile section.

[Coog]

Been doing quite well I think. Two vials, 6000 coins and an three sorrys. I’m in Europe so that’s all the boxes I’ve managed to open this far.

EDIT: Make that three vials.

[TemplarX]

The information says "ties are determined by levels"...does that mean the higher one wins? Also, is there a tiering? ie, Top 500 and Top 50 is global, not tiered by levels <50 or <100 etc?

[Bea]

Is it a record for you? How many do you have already? Have you been playing through the night or you are using a bit of gems to help the odds?

Seems bad compared to previous events, but just got another vial so on 3. Not using gems, just not sleeping well at night with really bad hay fever! Also, sometimes I open/fail a box, come out then go back in and somehow it didn't register and I get another go...

[doomnosee]

using gems and only 1 vial lol - waste of money!

[Everson25]

Seems bad compared to previous events, but just got another vial so on 3. Not using gems, just not sleeping well at night with really bad hay fever! Also, sometimes I open/fail a box, come out then go back in and somehow it didn't register and I get another go...
I have same problem with hat fever. Its a terrible time of the year for us. I've just got number 7.

[jeffelms]

After 9 straight fails I broke down and used gems to get my first one open. It was 3000 gold. Really? The next one after that opened and I finally got my first vile. so I've only been able to get 1 out of 11 tries. I hope these odds improve or I'm in going to have a bad next 4 days.

[roghorrorfreak]

2 vials and 7 sorries, at this rate be lucky to make 5 vials

[Hoodcrazy]

Im having terrible luck on failed opens compared to normal events. At this pace its looking tough to get 20 vials, let alone make the top 500 for free. I had assumed the vials would be easier to get since you need up to 20 for the lesser prizes.

[Frinz]

how they do that? in the leader boards.. Rank 1 already got 36 vials? when did the event started, 36 hours ago or what?

[Hapl0]

Using gems is posible.

[jeffelms]

how they do that? in the leader boards.. Rank 1 already got 36 vials? when did the event started, 36 hours ago or what?
They are obviously using gems to reset the timer and probably using gems to open boxes too. The open rate for the non gem options seems to be MUCH lower than the last two events. I was opening at about 75% for those. So far on this one I've been able to open 2 in 13 tries.

[Frinz]

in this event, the winners are so dam lucky or just really gold spender, losers (free player) no consolation prizes... :(

[YLL]

I would say started around 10 hours ago. European base could be in desadvantage as many could be sleeping already. I was lucky as just spotted before going to bed.

It just occurred to me that this event will end at 8am UK time, so Europe-based players will actually be at a double disadvantage. :(

[Everson25]

It just occurred to me that this event will end at 8am UK time, so Europe-based players will actually be at a double disadvantage. :(I totally agree with you. Unless you are a big spender it's very hard to make even top 500 for European base and free player. Ive been trying to open hourly since yesterday and I have just 7 which is nothing comparing to what we see on the board. To be honest I'm following the cut off for 500 to see where it is. At the moment it's ok but it's long way to go.

[Bea]

Now at dizzy heights... 4!

[jeffelms]

Just got my 3rd box open in 14 tries. But only 1 vial. Got 3000 gold and 25 HP in the other 2. This is just ridiculous.

[DIrishB]

So I've tried to open 8 boxes using the gold option (medium chance)... Only one opened using the gold option, used gems to open another 2, one with vial and one with 2,000 gold (sigh), for a grand total of two vials so far.

I understand the concept of using the box events as a way of making money through gems, but the gold option doesn't really seem to be a medium chance (at or around 50%) based on my experiences and others who've posted their results. Seems more like a 20% chance, plus or minus.

And isn't there a diminishing rate of vials the more you acquire? With the low rate of successful opens in combination with that, I'm thinking I'll be lucky to get 5.

:(

Don't mean to complain, but I'm not sure the "medium chance" gold option is accurate when listed as medium chance. Can only keep trying I guess (and buy more gems to guarantee success, though the gold rewards are just depressing, lol).

[The_Red]

Still amazed people are >30 as of now opening boxes. Thats lots of GEM play to be #1.

[eternalfire]

Yea... seeing how there's not even a week for this event, I don't see how it's possible for regular players to even reach the "free" grand prize of 20 vials lol... I mean we had a week for the 10 event items in the previous and everyone struggled with it. Then we have this event which seems harder than that. Top 50 is pretty much the top 50 money spenders. Though I'm not even sure how the 500th person has 5 boxes already... Sounds like another money leeching event, hope the gem buyers are satisfied with themselves after throwing a few thousand bucks for that dragon oO

[Joe Brown1]

I am definately sucking wind on opeing these boxes. About 8 fails, 1X 150 honor and 2 vials. I have about 15 boxes ready to open. Frustrating. However overall the event seems a lot more fair to the people spending real $$ on gems to open.

[Everson25]

Still amazed people are >30 as of now opening boxes. Thats lots of GEM play to be #1.I think Funzio is happy with such successful beginning of an event. How far some players will go to be number Its something we don't know but after less than a day into the event is really clearly who's wining.

[Hapl0]

Let me guess, funzio?

[spectra]

I think Funzio is happy with such successful beginning of an event. How far some players will go to be number Its something we don't know but after less than a day into the event is really clearly who's wining.
it is crazy to see people with over 30 vials already, and those at the bottom of the 50 with 13 the least
I know I will not be in the top 50 by the end of the event, I am. ot using any
more gems, my goal is top 500, hope I can make it
Funzio should award at least top 150 or 100 players not just 50

[The_Red]

Funzio should award at least top 150 or 100 players not just 50

The more they award - the less people will spend.

Id love to see them award a very special one for the top player - see how bat**** crazy they go with gem buying to get that spot.

[Everson25]

it is crazy to see people with over 30 vials already, and those at the bottom of the 50 with 13 the least
I know I will not be in the top 50 by the end of the event, I am. ot using any
more gems, my goal is top 500, hope I can make it
Funzio should award at least top 150 or 100 players not just 50To be honest Spectra! I dont think Funzio expected that would happen that. I can still see your name on top 50. Nitemare is still there too. But I thought I would see more forum members. I guess the whale territory is a dangers area with so many players with such power on their armies. It would be great to be able to upgrade 2 buildings at the same time but I became a dream for me...lol. Can you imagine what will happen if they do the same on MW?

[The_Red]

I guess the whale territory is a dangers area with so many players with such power on their armies.

Im a relatively high player in "whale" territory (on the business end most of the time) - a majority of these names aren't familiar to me at all in the top 25 or so. A couple I recognize; I'm not convinced that most or even many are "whales." I wouldn't be surprised that many of them are <L70

[Joe Brown1]

Hey - finally got one to open and got vial #3! Now I only need 2 more just to make the top 500:p

[Everson25]

Im a relatively high player in "whale" territory (on the business end most of the time) - a majority of these names aren't familiar to me at all in the top 25 or so. A couple I recognize; I'm not convinced that most or even many are "whales." I wouldn't be surprised that many of them are <L70do you think it's the price that's good for the eyes and consequently making players go deep and deeper?

[Art of War]

Hey - finally got one to open and got vial #3! Now I only need 2 more just to make the top 500:p

Hi joe. I'm on 6 ATM and Im not even sure I'm in the top 500. It says I'm number 500 when I refresh but I'm not convinced.
I like the idea of the scoreboard, however I would like it to tell me where I am. Not just the top 50. ;)

[spectra]

To be honest Spectra! I dont think Funzio expected that would happen that. I can still see your name on top 50. Nitemare is still there too. But I thought I would see more forum members. I guess the whale territory is a dangers area with so many players with such power on their armies. It would be great to be able to upgrade 2 buildings at the same time but I became a dream for me...lol. Can you imagine what will happen if they do the same on MW?

about 5 months ago, (and I am sure I was not the only one) with the first event, I sent Funzio a ticket with suggestions on prizes one of them was upgrade reduction time and the other beging able to upgrade 2 buildings at once
I am pretty sure they will put this prize in MW, next or very shorthly
then it will get crazy over there as the game is older and there are tons of people playing it for a long time that would spent $1,000 if needed to get that bonus

Good thing I am now use to upgrading 1 building at the time, so if I do not make it to top 50, it's somewhat fine, but I am not spending more gems, will keep trying for 20 to get the 4th units and hope I stay in the top 500

[Phil263]

Does every box open to give u a vial?

[vitus79]

Does every box open to give u a vial?

no got some once cash and once honor, have 6 or 7 and not spending a dime after seeing the leaderboards, great moneymaker, funzio.. kudos somehow

[The_Red]

Does every box open to give u a vial?

nope - I just got 10k.

[roghorrorfreak]

I'm on three, I have in no way think I have a chance past 15 if I'm lucky. That big prize looks and sounds cool , but is definitly for the heavy gem players. I will enjoy opening my christmas gifts everyhour in hopes it opens, but keeping this reality in the back of my head. Good luck all

[Everson25]

I just got number 8, still hanging on top 500.

[jeffelms]

Holy crap I just got my second vial!! At this rate I'll be excited to get 5 by the end of this event. So now I'm 4 out of 16 tries. 2 vials, 3,000 gold and 25 HP.

[frenda]

Seems to be another "reward" for money players. I'm still on #3 and the success rate sucks now. Guess they adjusted it to skew it more in favor of money players. Opened the first two straight off, then nothing in the next 6 attempts except for one more. Already pretty fed up with this event. Thanks for nothing, Funzio.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

I can still see your name on top 50. Nitemare is still there too. But I thought I would see more forum members.

Forum member here. In-game name is "Link". I was in the top 50 for 9 hours! Then the gem players woke up and joined the event. At 7 viles right now, so still in the top 500. But level 42 right now....

I'd make a wager that the top 50 will have to have 29+ viles.

[eternalfire]

I'd wager you'll need more than 50 vials to be top 50 by the end of the event. Don't count out the last minute sprinters

[Everson25]

Forum member here. In-game name is "Link". I was in the top 50 for 9 hours! Then the gem players woke up and joined the event. At 7 viles right now, so still in the top 500. But level 42 right now....

I'd make a wager that the top 50 will have to have 29+ viles.I was also on top 50 for sometime. My in game name is Wolverine. I should have taken a pic because that won't happen again on this event as I will keep myself as a free player.

[Bea]

Just got to 5...

[Durwood]

I started off 0 for 2. Then was 2 for 4.
Now I am 2 for 14. 10 straight empty boxes. Right now you need 6 to be in the top 500! Looks like I will not even get close....again.

I am NOT a fan of these events and am losing interest in this game.

Hopefully, that player who has something like a 14000 attack and a 19000 defense with almost 1200 weapons and over 1000 armors will get even stronger and take everyone in the whole game out!

[ShawnBB]

I started off 0 for 2. Then was 2 for 4.
Now I am 2 for 14. 10 straight empty boxes. Right now you need 6 to be in the top 500! Looks like I will not even get close....again.

I am NOT a fan of these events and am losing interest in this game.

Hopefully, that player who has something like a 14000 attack and a 19000 defense with almost 1200 weapons and over 1000 armors will get even stronger and take everyone in the whole game out!

I'm sitting at 47000 defense now:). With little less than 300 Allie.
Those top 50 probably all having 80000+ stats at least if they fully allied.
(lucita,I'm not trying to scare ppl,just let them know the truth...)

[Durwood]

WoW! I really must suck at this game!

[asdfg12345]

WoW! I really must suck at this game!
Yup, unless you blow real money on this game, you will never be the top dog. Shawnbb is probably doing as well as you possibly could without spending money.

[Vidia]

Seems to be another "reward" for money players. I'm still on #3 and the success rate sucks now. Guess they adjusted it to skew it more in favor of money players. Opened the first two straight off, then nothing in the next 6 attempts except for one more. Already pretty fed up with this event. Thanks for nothing, Funzio.

Funzio will have countless similar events in the future. Like before, most winners are gem players. Free players are simply used as preys to attract more gem players.

All these events are just money makers for Funzio.

[Vidia]

The event lasts 5 days, total 120 hours assuming you don't even sleep and open one box exactly per hour. So, in total, one gets 120 chances to open boxes.

In my experience, you got one ville per every 6 attempts for free players. So, one could maximum get 20 vials.

Right now, as I speak, the last one on the top 500 list has 7 vials. This is just first 24 hours. It is reasonable to expect the last one on the top 500 list would reach 24-28 range at end of events.

A free player in the most ideal situation could get 20 vials, but to be on top 500 list, one needs at least 24 vials.

In fact, no free player could play without sleep for 120 hours or opened 120 boxes. Even if he did, he still would not be able to be on top 500 list. I estimate top 50 at least have 50 vials.

The event is just another money making machine for Funzio.

[John Snow]

The event is just another money making machine for Funzio.

Well, Funzio IS a business, so the reason it exists is to make money.

[The_Red]

Right now, as I speak, the last one on the top 500 list has 7 vials.

Not sure I agree with that statement - Mine still shows 6 as the entry point to Top 500. I'm more or less right there. I think its possible and a number of free players on this board will get to top 500.

Top 50 - impossible without gems.

[Joe Brown1]

Also, statistically, some free players will exceed the 1 in 6 assumption, some even materially exceed. The odds of a free player being in the top 50 is very, very low but top 500 is doable, just rare.

[Vidia]

How many gems do you need to be on top 500 or top 50 list ?

Assuming: 1. You opened 100+ boxes and did not use gem to reset timer.
2. Top 50 need 50+ vials
3. Top 500 needs 24+ vials.

In the past events, it is safe to say most free players could get to 60-80% of maximum targets with demonstrated efforts. In this event, a free player could get to 12-16 viles with 100+ openings.

So, one needs 10 extra vials opened by gems to be top 500. By posts in this thread, someone reported success rate of 50% for gem openings. That would in total require 20 boxes opened by gems to get 10 vials. Total 400 gems. So, one needs to open 100+ boxes with at least 20 of them opened by gems to have a decent chance in top 500. In this case, he would end up between 20 - 25 vials by doing so.

To be on top 500, one needs to open 100+ boxes with gem to have 50+ vials. That is 100 * 20 = 2000 gems. One needs to spend 2000 gems to secure a spot in top 50.

[asdfg12345]

How many gems do you need to be on top 500 or top 50 list ?

Assuming: 1. You opened 100+ boxes and did not use gem to reset timer.
2. Top 50 need 50+ vials
3. Top 500 needs 24+ vials.

In the past events, it is safe to say most free players could get to 60-80% of maximum targets with demonstrated efforts. In this event, a free player could get to 12-16 viles with 100+ openings.

So, one needs 10 extra vials opened by gems to be top 500. By posts in this thread, someone reported success rate of 50% for gem openings. That would in total require 20 boxes opened by gems to get 10 vials. Total 400 gems. So, one needs to open 100+ boxes with at least 20 of them opened by gems to have a decent chance in top 500. In this case, he would end up between 20 - 25 vials by doing so.

To be on top 500, one needs to open 100+ boxes with gem to have 50+ vials. That is 100 * 20 = 2000 gems. One needs to spend 2000 gems to secure a spot in top 50.
Why are you crying about people spending gem when you spend more than 99% of the players while you were playing

[lucita]

I'm sitting at 47000 defense now:). With little less than 300 Allie.
Those top 50 probably all having 80000+ stats at least if they fully allied.
(lucita,I'm not trying to scare ppl,just let them know the truth...)

hehe, don't take my previous wording too seriously :) I was just trying to make a point that 100k+ players were not that many in a comical way! Regardless, even one attack from a 100K whale once you step into the territory is enough to make an impact!

Do you mean the top 50 players or top 50 on the leader board?
If it's the former case then I would kinda agree with you that's sorta the ballpark figure, though I can't proof it.
If it's the latter case then I wouldn't quite agree, as I've recognized a few low stats players in the top 50 already.

Overall I don't quite like the setup of this event, as a free player, as it gives total advantage to the gem players. Yet, it must be a good way to feed cash to Funzio. The only positive I see is that the double building benefit does give a chance for late starter to catch up, especially for the money players who started late and just stepped into the whole zone. The early mover advantage in the current setup is just too big and before the event I couldn't think of anything to solve the issue.

[Masterjojobinks]

Just killed 50 monsters/buildings on the cross roads map and did not get one box? What do I have to do get find a box just so I can open it an see if I get a vial?

[Arwin Stark]

with only 4 attempts to open during the night thanks to restless kids im now at 4 vials.

Lets see how I go today \o/

[MaverickMunkey]

50 Honor for 1800 gold - what a kick in the teeth!!!

Damn these events are frustrating but hell 50 Honor - seriously what is the point!

[YLL]

Just killed 50 monsters/buildings on the cross roads map and did not get one box? What do I have to do get find a box just so I can open it an see if I get a vial?

My experience is that drop chances increase significantly the higher up you go. Try the highest level map you have available. Sounds like you are quite low level though, and I can tell you that drop rates were very low for me in the maps unlocked in the 20s, somewhat better in the low 30s and significantly better in the upper 30s...

[MaverickMunkey]

Just killed 50 monsters/buildings on the cross roads map and did not get one box? What do I have to do get find a box just so I can open it an see if I get a vial?

I have found that the Infested Cavern is dropping them regularly for me - and it helps master the map!:)

[YLL]

with only 4 attempts to open during the night thanks to restless kids im now at 4 vials.

Lets see how I go today \o/


50 Honor for 1800 gold - what a kick in the teeth!!!

Damn these events are frustrating but hell 50 Honor - seriously what is the point!

I'm getting heartily sick of "sorries", but not sure I'd rather get 50 Honour instead (got a couple of those) - or worse yet, grunts (thankfully, none of those so far)... *touches wood*

[The_Red]

*touches wood*

hmm........

[Euchred]

hmm........

Indeed////

[YLL]

It's Redwood...

[MaverickMunkey]

I'm getting heartily sick of "sorries", but not sure I'd rather get 50 Honour instead (got a couple of those) - or worse yet, grunts (thankfully, none of those so far)... *touches wood*

You have dropped yourself in it now!!

[Timbathia]

Medium implies somewhere around 50 precent funzio, not under freakin 20.

[YLL]

I'd love to stay up, but the bed beckons now...

Ｍｏｒｅ　ｓｅｒｉｏｕｓｌｙ,　ｓｉｎｃｅ　Ｉ　ｈａｖｅ　ｙｅｔ　ｔｏ　ｃａｔｃｈ　ｕｐ　ｗｉｔｈ　 ｔｈｅ　Ｔｏｐ　５００,　Ｉ　ｗｏｕｌｄ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｏ　ｉｍｐｌｏｒｅ　ａｌｌ　ｔｈｅ　Ｙａｎｋｓ 　ａｎｄ　Ｃａｎｕｃｋｓ　ｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ｔｏ　ｓｐｏｒｔｉｎｇｌｙ　ｌｅｔ　ｕｐ　ｔｏｎｉｇｈ ｔ　ｓｏ　Ｉ　ｃａｎ　ｃａｔｃｈ　ａｎｄ　ｈｏｐｅｆｕｌｌｙ　ｐａｓｓ　ｙｏｕ　ａｌｌ　ｔｏｍｏｒｒ ｏｗ...　;)

[jeffelms]

This is really getting discouraging watching the top 500, much less the top 50 get further and further out of reach, when I'm doing all I can, short of using gems every time, to try and keep up. I've got a grand total of 3 vials now and I've not missed a single opening chance since 5 this morning. I'm up to like 18 tries now and only been able to open 6 boxes.

[Joe Brown1]

This is really getting discouraging watching the top 500, much less the top 50 get further and further out of reach, when I'm doing all I can, short of using gems every time, to try and keep up. I've got a grand total of 3 vials now and I've not missed a single opening chance since 5 this morning. I'm up to like 18 tries now and only been able to open 6 boxes.

Hey, welcome to the "Stuck at 3" club! They should have special prize for us . . though I am afraid as to what that might be . . probably a rubber chicken that subtract from your stats . . . god, I hope not the dildo and gucci purse that Skoty422 and Bea were so hot about in another thread; how embarrasing to have that show in your inventory everytime someone looked. Oh well, back to opening boxes:cool:

[Everson25]

Well, 24 hours gone and 24 attempts, so I couldn't put more effort than I did. I'm still on 8 but I can see that's getting closer and closer the boardline. oh well, still hope to be among top 500.

[Totalwar]

Must be mad spent £200 pounds and still only got 29 viles goes and jumps off nearest bridge lol.

[MSH]

The event lasts 5 days, total 120 hours assuming you don't even sleep and open one box exactly per hour. So, in total, one gets 120 chances to open boxes.

In my experience, you got one ville per every 6 attempts for free players. So, one could maximum get 20 vials.

Right now, as I speak, the last one on the top 500 list has 7 vials. This is just first 24 hours. It is reasonable to expect the last one on the top 500 list would reach 24-28 range at end of events.

A free player in the most ideal situation could get 20 vials, but to be on top 500 list, one needs at least 24 vials.

In fact, no free player could play without sleep for 120 hours or opened 120 boxes. Even if he did, he still would not be able to be on top 500 list. I estimate top 50 at least have 50 vials.

The event is just another money making machine for Funzio.

I agree with you that it is extremely unlikely for a free player to get to Top 500, although my estimates for free player’s maximum are somewhat more modest, than yours at around 18 vials. The reason for this conservatism is not that I disagree with your assumptions, but because we are dealing here not with random event with more/less set probabilities, but with a managed event with probabilities easily adjustable by the developers, if needed/desired…

That leads to even more interesting point, than pure mathematics – namely, IT IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR FREE PLAYERS TO GET TO TOP 500. The whole set up is actually quite brilliant from the corporate perspective. Imagine that there are a few hours left to the end of the event, you are stuck at 18 vials and the top 500th slot is say 21. Even if you are by and large a free player by choice, you would be extremely highly pressured psychologically to go gems, at least a bit, so you could get 2 cool prizes – Inferno Elemental 122/78 for 20 rings AND Doom Elemental at 337/201. Even without special abilities of Doom Elemental those two items have estimated combined gem worth at around 1500 – 1900 and they could really make a tactical difference for your game, so again you REALLY ARE TEMPTED to go for gems, YET SO IS EVERYONE ELSE, WHO IS STUCK with 18 vials thus leading to a HUGE STAMPEDE TO REACH TOP 500 AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE, BUT WITH EVERYONE DOING THAT…AND SOME SUCCEEDING, THE PLANK WOULD CONTINUE TO GO HIGHER, THUS PROMPTING PEOPLE TO SPEND EVEN MORE TO CATCH UP – i I think that at THE LAST FEW HOURS OF THE EVENT, WATCHING THAT SCOREBOARD WOULD SURELY BE EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING ;)

[lucita]

Can't agree more with you!

Rather than making more complain or trying to analyst why this event is not for free players, someone should try to do an earning analysis and plug in the final numbers by the end of this event to see how much $$ Funzio make from this :)

[MSH]

Can't agree more with you!

Rather than making more complain or trying to analyst why this event is not for free players, someone should try to do an earning analysis and plug in the final numbers by the end of this event to see how much $$ Funzio make from this :)

Whatever they earn is theirs to keep, I guess - it IS a for profit venture, after all. I still enjoy my game for free AND WOULD ENJOY IT EVEN MORE, IF AT LEAST SOME PROFIT EARNED WERE PLOWED BACK IN FOR, SAY NEW MAPS AND OTHER FUN STUFF DEVELOPING - WE'LL SEE...MEANWHILE, DO PLAN TO SIT BACK AND HAVE FUN WATCHING STAMPEDE FOR THE BOTTOM OF TOP 500 ;)

MY PERSONAL KA PEEVE FOR A FEW LAST WEEKS IS NOT IMPROBABILITY OF SUCCESS OF WINNING THOSE EVENTS, WHILE PLAYING FOR FREE, BUT MY OWN INABILITY TO GET DECENT ADVANCED MAGE STUFF, SUCH, AS THAT DWARVEN SPELLBOOK, KRAKEN'S EYE, ETC., DESPITE KILLING HUNDREDS OF THOSE MINE WORKERS, GNATS, BOSSES, ETC., BUT WELL - THAT'S MY OWN BAD LUCK I SUPPOSE, NOTHING CORPORATE RELEVANT, ;)

[DIrishB]

Medium implies somewhere around 50 precent funzio, not under freakin 20.

Exactly. This is my only issue with the event. I'm at 5 vials and have literally opened about 20 boxes (used gems to open first couple and to reset timer a few times) which gives me 3 Vials out of 20 (got some gold and honor in another 2, but who wants that?)

My open rate with the medium chance is around 25%.

Will say I'm having much better luck than yesterday.

Also, I've been going back to earlier maps to master them, and the early maps really don't drop the demon boxes much at all. The higher level maps drop them pretty regularly, however. Just something for my fellow n00bs to keep in mind if you're after the Vials.

[DIrishB]

Sorry, meant the open rate with the gold option is 25 - 35%.

For some reason my iPhone won't actually edit my previous posts.

[Freekizh]

Are the probabilities constant or reducing like the previous events?

[-->FISH<--]

I think they are dropping off faster and faster......

[Everson25]

Are the probabilities constant or reducing like the previous events?At the moment it looks the same for me. I thought it would be better considering we have 20 viles to go for it.

[spectra]

Well, 24 hours gone and 24 attempts, so I couldn't put more effort than I did. I'm still on 8 but I can see that's getting closer and closer the boardline. oh well, still hope to be among top 500.

you should be there now, top 500 the least they have is 7, since you have 8, you are there
keep it up to stay there
Cheers

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

At the moment it looks the same for me. I thought it would be better considering we have 20 viles to go for it.

I really hope that it stays constant. I'm also at 8, but all there needs to be is about 15 gem buyers added to the others who are already pumping out gems for me to get kicked out of the waters of that 500. Then my luck would have to be astronomically awesome to catch back up. (Of course why not? I wasn't successful in the first two events. Take that, probability theory!)

[asdfg12345]

I really hope that it stays constant. I'm also at 8, but all there needs to be is about 15 gem buyers added to the others who are already pumping out gems for me to get kicked out of the waters of that 500. Then my luck would have to be astronomically awesome to catch back up. (Of course why not? I wasn't successful in the first two events. Take that, probability theory!)
Their probabilities are all independent of each other lol

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Exactly!

And I just saw the leader board again. 40 vials for the top player; #50 is at 19; #500 is at 7.

So, I just need another 30 vials, and I am good to go for that #50 prize! (Seems every 24 hours the #50 has gone up by 6) Score!

[Freekizh]

Can anyone else confirm that they are getting approximately 50% vial drop with gem opens?

[tcapi]

I hope not the dildo and gucci purse that Skoty422 and Bea were so hot about in another thread;

I don't really mind if these dildos and gucci purses have A and D in the 30s range.;)

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Can anyone else confirm that they are getting approximately 50% vial drop with gem opens?

I only tried with 5 gem openings. I got 2, so 40% for me. However, I could have done another and gotten a vial which would be 50%.

But that is also lower in vials. If the chances change, it could be 20% once you get into the +15 range, or anywhere for that matter.


EDIT: For that matter, if it is 50%, I may buy some more for the heck of it, knowing I would get a vial on average of every 2 openings, as long as when I missed four in a row, I would get two or three in a row to balance it out. I'm interested to see if the gem players are reading this forum to confirm the percentages.

[Freekizh]

I only tried with 5 gem openings. I got 2, so 40% for me. However, I could have done another and gotten a vial which would be 50%.

But that is also lower in vials. If the chances change, it could be 20% once you get into the +15 range, or anywhere for that matter.


EDIT: For that matter, if it is 50%, I may buy some more for the heck of it, knowing I would get a vial on average of every 2 openings, as long as when I missed four in a row, I would get two or three in a row to balance it out. I'm interested to see if the gem players are reading this forum to confirm the percentages.

Exactly ..wanna know if it's possible to catchup!

[John0897]

Do these boxes replace standard loot odds, or go in addition to?

[Tiki]

Are the probabilities constant or reducing like the previous events?

I was doing pretty good yesterday. It was more difficult to find the box, but the viles were about 40% for me. Today it has been easier to find boxes but not as many viles. I only got 3 today out of 15 openings.

[Aoxoa]

I guess my luck sucks this time. Only 5 viles. Oh well, at least I can take comfort in knowing that virtually no free player my level can compete with my A&D numbers.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Ugh! I need 20 more vials to be in the top 50! If I don't get these my life will end! I can't stand it that I won't get that unit for the top 50!!!

(just to get it out of everyone's system who is frustrated. :))

But it does frustrate that I've been on 8 all day.

[eternalfire]

I've been on 3 all day... >__> guess this event is out for me

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

I've been on 3 all day... >__> guess this event is out for me

Ok. You win. :(

[Timbathia]

Just got to 5, so at least I have something for my effort (even if it is only a poxy elemental that doesnt allow me to upgrade two units buildings at once).

[Kiss Of Death]

Has anyone though to ask what +2% Alliance attack actually means???? I presume it's an 2% modifier to your attack and or defence stats, but I'd hate to be wrong. "I would prefer" if you only answer with factual support because it's not a factor in any existing statistics used I am aware of...

CounterSniper, Sniped me on that one.. does the above read better ?

[CounterSniper]

I have an answer from support but since you have a generally snotty attitude i will keep that information to myself.

[asdfg12345]

I have an answer from support but since you have a generally snotty attitude i will keep that information to myself.
can you message me support's response. Please :)

[Populouspapa]

I have an answer from support but since you have a generally snotty attitude i will keep that information to myself.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv1f0crglP1qegzomo1_500.jpg
:) it's funny because it's true!

[Kiss Of Death]

Has anyone though to ask what +2% Alliance attack actually means???? I presume it's an 2% modifier to your attack and or defence stats, but I'd hate to be wrong. "I would prefer" if you only answer with factual support because it's not a factor in any existing statistics used I am aware of...

CounterSniper, Sniped me on that one.. does the above read better ?

Well... do I pass go this time... really want that $200 :(

[Kiss Of Death]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv1f0crglP1qegzomo1_500.jpg
:) it's funny because it's true!

Thanks pop... clealry I need to shave today.

[Freekizh]

Well... do I pass go this time... really want that $200 :(

If I thought it was just going to cost me $200 then I'd be hitting the "Buy It Now" button. But the realty is that this becomes a virtual auction system where the price could go up since we are talking about a fixed supply of 50 here..

If the probabilities are constant, then the best course of action is to accumulate a reasonable amount of vials without going crazy and wait and see where the price settles on the last day .. accumulate enough boxes, see if u are willing to pay that price, and make a last minute run with opens and time resets.

If its not constant .. then you needed to start much earlier, and you are already too far behind..

I'm starting to think the top 500 unit is looking better value, and this auction could get real hot..I'm thinking $800+ spend for top 50.

[Great_wall2]

Uggggh... Stuck on 5 all day today... Been brutal

[Yurt]

Mate I have been stuck on four and its costing a fortune.

[Arwin Stark]

Well looking at how I went on the last 2 events I decided to try a new strategy, early stages but seems to be looking good so far.

Today was up and down saw the top 500 was at 5 vials and after getting my 5th and new unit, saw that it had jumped to 7 Bummer. Persisted throughout the day and after 18 attempts I am now sitting on 8 vials lady luck is shining on me.

Knowing that there will be a mad rush towards the end and my luck runs dry at 8 I’m hoping for the best to stay in the top 500 \o/

Free Player

[YLL]

I've not received a vial since early yesterday afternoon. Mostly sorrys, with the odd 2k gold and 25-50HP, neither of which represents an appreciable contribution. :(

[Yurt]

I'm not even getting the consolation prize, just zip. I am depressed. Still playing the free game.💀

[Coog]

Ok, I caved. I bought some gems. 240 of them to be precise. From my experience this far the Vials has a pretty good drop rate, the problem is to open the boxes. So I’m going to use the gems only for opening boxes, not to reduce the time. So far I’m two for two. With my gems I can open 12 boxes and is hoping for a droprate around 50 percent. I’ll report back when all the 12 boxes are opened. Could be usefull information for those who are thinking about byuing gems them selves.

[Freekizh]

Ok, I caved. I bought some gems. 240 of them to be precise. From my experience this far the Vials has a pretty good drop rate, the problem is to open the boxes. So I’m going to use the gems only for opening boxes, not to reduce the time. So far I’m two for two. With my gems I can open 12 boxes and is hoping for a droprate around 50 percent. I’ll report back when all the 12 boxes are opened. Could be usefull information for those who are thinking about byuing gems them selves.

If you do the maths, with 65 or so hours left, and you used gems for every open for every hour, and assuming a 40% drop, that's only 26 vials plus whatever you have left. So you must use gems to reduce time if you are going for the top prize eventually.

[Everson25]

Well looking at how I went on the last 2 events I decided to try a new strategy, early stages but seems to be looking good so far.

Today was up and down saw the top 500 was at 5 vials and after getting my 5th and new unit, saw that it had jumped to 7 Bummer. Persisted throughout the day and after 18 attempts I am now sitting on 8 vials lady luck is shining on me.

Knowing that there will be a mad rush towards the end and my luck runs dry at 8 I’m hoping for the best to stay in the top 500 \o/

Free PlayerI'm on 8 since yesterday. The boardline for 500 price is already 9. Yesterday when I got number 8 the boardline was 6 so I guess with over 2 days left there will be some players moving fast and our chances as free players will get smaller and smaller.

So a simple question, any free player with 10 or more viles?

[Arwin Stark]

I hit 9 vials as it changed to 9 for top 500.

I'm upto 21 attempts so just under 50% success rate for opening on middle option. I expect my luck to run out as my plan for attaining boxes was some what side tracked getting a few from pvp. 17 boxes atm with 2d 20hrs to go.

[Bea]

I'm on 6, a ton of fails (yawnzzz). This event favours the gem players; previously gems didn't guarantee the 10th item top prize and lots of free players got lucky. This one widens the gap between the free players and those with money to burn. KA quickly establishes itself as a cash cow...

[CounterSniper]

I'm on 6, a ton of fails (yawnzzz). This event favours the gem players; previously gems didn't guarantee the 10th item top prize and lots of free players got lucky. This one widens the gap between the free players and those with money to burn. KA quickly establishes itself as a cash cow...

My thoughts exactly.

This is pure pay to play.

The other events were an even match for everyone.

The wealthiest will win this one. Period!

Kinda sad.

[Everson25]

Good morning Bea! Thanks for your visit yesterday. It's always great to have a princess visiting our kingdom...lol.

I'm also having a series of sorrys that I have never had before. I had KA was an experiment to see how players would react. I imagine CC and MW are next. It's where the big big customers are. I thought the chances were great but I hope that they remember us free players in the next events.

[Everson25]

Totally true statement CS! Two days to go we still might see a 100 on the leaderbord.

[jeffelms]

My thoughts exactly.

This is pure pay to play.

The other events were an even match for everyone.

The wealthiest will win this one. Period!

Kinda sad.
It's like I said earlier. Kind of mirrors real life. The 1% vs. the 99%. Next thing you know there will be an occupy Funzio. LOL.

[Bea]

Good morning Bea! Thanks for your visit yesterday. It's always great to have a princess visiting our kingdom...lol.

Princess?! Pmsl...

Just connected your forum and game names so dropped by. Hope you get lots of vials today 😄

[Freekizh]

Guys I think we are overreacting here. The guys with $$$ could always afford to get the prize. What's really changed is that the prize is now out of reach of free players. But the top 500 prize is still considerable ad achievable, and there's still free stuff being handed out.

From a long term sustainability pov, 50 prizes seem smaller quantum than was being handed out before..so from that absolute perspective, the playing field is a lot more level since there are fewer payers running around with a game changer prize. I don't see how a heavy gem player with this prize is any different to a heavy gem player without this prize - they are still pretty much unbeatable.

Am I very wrong to think this? I honestly think funzio is going to make less or the same money doing it this way, but they are kinda forced to do this since there are only so many desirable event prizes they can hand out right!

[P4TR1C14N]

I'm on 6, a ton of fails (yawnzzz). This event favours the gem players; previously gems didn't guarantee the 10th item top prize and lots of free players got lucky. This one widens the gap between the free players and those with money to burn. KA quickly establishes itself as a cash cow...

True! But in the end... as long as ppl keep paying, why should they even thinking about taking into account free players. When they don't get money, they just make more marketing around the game, promise some free gems to start playing the game etc. Abba said is all... money money money :).

But aside your good remark... the reward of upgrading two buildings at once... omg. That's even worse. A 'small' group will be able to gain such advantage over time over the other 'gem' players. I'm quite sure a lot of paying gem players will not be happy about such evolution. Even them get threated as a non paying player somehow if you look at it that way.

I like the leaderboard concept to be honest. Now you see at least how much money is getting invested in this game and how obvious and difficult it is for a free player to make 'a chance'.

[Coog]

If you do the maths, with 65 or so hours left, and you used gems for every open for every hour, and assuming a 40% drop, that's only 26 vials plus whatever you have left. So you must use gems to reduce time if you are going for the top prize eventually.

Well, that would be true if I was going for the big prize, but I'm not. Just trying to get into the gang of the 500.

[jeffelms]

They really should lower the amount of gems required to reset the timer as the time gets shorter like the the buildings and expansions. I just had my window open ready to open the next box with less than 30 seconds left on the timer. I picked up my iPad and my thumb hit the ridiculously large reset timer button. Lost 20 gems to save me probably 20 seconds. Arrrrrrrggggggg!!!!

[CounterSniper]

Guys I think we are overreacting here. The guys with $$$ could always afford to get the prize. What's really changed is that the prize is now out of reach of free players. But the top 500 prize is still considerable ad achievable, and there's still free stuff being handed out.

From a long term sustainability pov, 50 prizes seem smaller quantum than was being handed out before..so from that absolute perspective, the playing field is a lot more level since there are fewer payers running around with a game changer prize.

Am I very wrong to think this? I honestly think funzio is going to make less or the same money doing it this way, but they are kinda forced to do this since there are only so many desirable event prizes they can hand out right!


Money did not guarentee anything in the other events. Many people spent hundreds in RM and came up short time after time after time. Here they know for sure where they stand at any given time and can keep investing knowing they will likely get it if they really want it.(and can afford it)

[CounterSniper]

They really should lower the amount of gems required to reset the timer as the time gets shorter like the the buildings and expansions. I just had my window open ready to open the next box with less than 30 seconds left on the timer. I picked up my iPad and my thumb hit the ridiculously large reset timer button. Lost 20 gems to save me probably 20 seconds. Arrrrrrrggggggg!!!!

Submit a ticket, they will refund the gems.

[Everson25]

Freekizh! I agree with you when you say that main difference is that before a free player would have a chance to get the big prize while it will be hard to even be part of the top 500.

I disagree when you say they are making same money as before. I can't see the figures that they are making but if you are spending money and you see your name on the board you will keep spending to make sure what you spent already is worthy. Besides players before would get 10 and stop with gem but now we still don't know how far they can go.

[Freekizh]

Freekizh! I agree with you when you say that main difference is that before a free player would have a chance to get the big prize while it will be hard to even be part of the top 500.

I disagree when you say they are making same money as before. I can't see the figures that they are making but if you are spending money and you see your name on the board you will keep spending to make sure what you spent already is worthy. Besides players before would get 10 and stop with gem but now we still don't know how far they can go.

The reason I say this is that unless you really think you can be in top 50 u really shouldn't play unless you think the consolation prize is ok. In the old system, I think more people would pay and play, which most likely would outweigh what a few are going to overpay under this new event. All speculation of course wo numbers.

[Freekizh]

Money did not guarentee anything in the other events. Many people spent hundreds in RM and came up short time after time after time. Here they know for sure where they stand at any given time and can keep investing knowing they will likely get it if they really want it.(and can afford it)

That's a fair point. But if they spent enuff (like 500-1000) they would have had a very very high chance. Under this new event, if you only spend a couple hundred, I don't think you will win either. But if you spent enuff you will guarantee to win - really that big a concept gap?

[Art of War]

How are you guys doing with your open rates? I was inside the top 500 with 8 vials yesterday. Nearly 24 hours and some 16-18 attempts later im still on 8. All but two have been sorries. Got some money and honour.
I was hoping rates would be a little better for this, as you need to have 20 vials to get the fourth prize!

I also wonder if they're applying the diminishing return equation seen in the other events? Mind you I'm not even halfway through.

Time will tell.

[jeffelms]

I'm up to 4 and I've been opening every hour on the hour except when I'm sleeping. I was hoping for a better opening percentage for this event as well, not worse. I guess that was hoping for to much.
Edit: holy crap I just got 5. There's still hope for 10.

[YLL]

How are you guys doing with your open rates? I was inside the top 500 with 8 vials yesterday. Nearly 24 hours and some 16-18 attempts later im still on 8. All but two have been sorries. Got some money and honour.
I was hoping rates would be a little better for this, as you need to have 20 vials to get the fourth prize!

I also wonder if they're applying the diminishing return equation seen in the other events? Mind you I'm not even halfway through.

Time will tell.

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