Thread Table ~ Battle Points ~ Valor ~ Experience

[Dreno33]

Just like the Buildings Thread, going to need lots of volunteers to contribute! Whenever you raid, write down the building & level, $ earned, exp gained, valor gained, and BP's gained with corresponding Enenmy tier.. I will input them in as I receive.

THANKS A BILLION! Hope you enjoy everyone(:


CHANGES WILL BE MADE SOON ON BATTLE POINTS.
New table for Battle Points and the existing BP's column will be changed to money earned.


IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO KNOW ABOUT THE BATTLE POINTS TIERS:
it's based on your ENEMY's Defense compared to YOUR attack and gives the AVERAGE # of Battle Points earned from raiding/attacking. The Battle Points Tiers are as follows:


#
ENEMY's DEFENSE

#
ENEMY's DEFENSE









1
10% of your A.

7
70% of your A.


2
20% of your A.

8
80% of your A.


3
30% of your A.

9
90% of your A.


4
40% of your A.

10
100% of your A.


5
50% of your A.

11
110% of your A.


6
60% of your A.

12
120% of your A.









MONEY BUILDINGS

ARMORY


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1

5

1

1


2



1

1


3



1

1


4



1

1


5



1

1


6



2

1


7








8








9








10









BIODOME


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









COAL MINE


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









COMMUNICATION CENTER


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









DIAMOND MINE


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









GEOTHERMAL PLANT


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









MUNITIONS STOCKPILE


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









NATURAL GAS PLANT


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









OIL DERRICK


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1

4

1

2


2



1

3


3



1

3


4








5








6








7








8








9








10









OIL RIG


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









RECYCLING PLANT


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









SOLAR ARRAY


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









STEEL MILL


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









STORAGE SILO


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1

4

1

2


2



1

3


3



1

3


4








5








6








7








8








9








10









SUPPLY DEPOT


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1

3

1

1


2



1

1


3



1

1


4



1

1


5



2

1


6








7








8








9








10









SEWER PLANT


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









WEAPONS FACTORY


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









WIND FARM


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








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6








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8








9








10

[Dreno33]

BOOST BUILDINGS

AIRSHIP HANGER


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









CEMENT FACTORY


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









GENETICS LAB


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









NAVAL RESEARCH LAB


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









AIR FIELD


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









DRY DOCKS


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10









SHIPYARD


LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











1








2








3








4








5








6








7








8








9








10











DEFENSE BUILDINGS

***NEED a volunteer to PM me the list of defense building names (all but 2 of mine are locked and can't see the names. In alphabetical order would be even nicer, haha. THANK YOU!!***



LEVEL

BATTLE POINTS

VALOR

EXPERIENCE











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[Hassleham]

Why though?

[CAPT.GIN]

What is this?

[Scabbyfeet]

Why though?Didn't you read it , he wants you to "right it down" :)

[Dreno33]

It's empty, its to give you guys the Bp's and Valor to Exp Ratio. So you can quickly scan through for the buildings to see which give the best ratio. In doing so, you get more Valor AND Battlepoints per level

[CAPT.GIN]

Oh wow great idea big D!!! After all the data is collected this needs to become a sticky! Hey no more random guessing on buildings sweet....

[Hassleham]

But bp depends on the opponents defence, rather than the level of the building?

[Dreno33]

But bp depends on the opponents defence, rather than the level of the building?

mine earning have been very consistent depending on the building, are you sure????

[Poopenshire]

But bp depends on the opponents defence, rather than the level of the building?

He worked so hard I didn't have the heart to say anything, thankfully you did.

[Dreno33]

He worked so hard I didn't have the heart to say anything, thankfully you did.

are you sure that's not just for attacking? mine seem to be consistent depending on the building (and its level within)

[War Priest]

But bp depends on the opponents defence, rather than the level of the building?

Exactly... Sorry to ruin your day Dreno.

[Jp lfs]

Does anyone EVER raid an armory or supply depot? I would not touch half the buildings on the list. Sorry I can't be more help.

Major edit:

If you want me to track data on Nano's, Oil Rig's, and Ore Mine's I might be willing, but my honest advice at your level is to target unvaulted cash through attacking... Way better return on XP investment IMO. Also, you won't see too many buildings worth raiding for a while. Lvl 10 munitions are a definite hit, but anything under an 8-hour cycle time usually isn't worth it.

I would wait for raiding until at least level 30... maybe even 40.

Another easy way to make easy cash is to find people on your newsfeed who left you 30k when they attacked you and lost, and go hit them for the rest. You can usually do this every few hours for days at a time in the lower levels.

Good luck, man. For as long as you have been "playing" you have a lot of fun ahead of you learning how to PvP. And don't ignore PvE completely, either. There is money to be made, and loot to be gained through carefully farming the right areas. It's also a good time to just run through your mission list for a while, to get a feel for the game.

Feel free to PM me with any questions, as I am very interested to see how your strategy works out now that you are coming out to play.

[bigflan]

Hey I just looked I have 107 traded threads it must be a record

[Poopenshire]

Sorry Dreno, Hassle is right. Your opponents def scores is the biggest deciding factor for BP awarded.

[Dreno33]

Does anyone EVER raid an armory or supply depot? I would not touch half the buildings on the list. Sorry I can't be more help.

low levels do. aka me. this is for all levels. you can help provide for buildings you raid usually, if you wish to help contribute.

[bigflan]

Hey guys I have 2% of all started threads on the modern war forum

[Dreno33]

can someone go raid one armory or supply depot and tell me their BP's earned plz? i just want to see the difference for myself

[Hassleham]

If you could work out some sort of ratio for (The % value of your opponents defence vs. your attack) to (Battle points rewarded), THAT would be pretty useful.

Obviously it'd be quite vague because of not knowing the opponents boosted defence value but it might be useful for long term planning, if you were deciding to only attack someone above a certain defence in order to get to spec ops asap.

[bigflan]

Raided Lv 7 supply depot received 22 Bp and 2 valor

[Hassleham]

Hey guys I have 2% of all started threads on the modern war forum

That's nothing to be proud of.


Dreno i just raided a level 4 armoury belonging to a level 53 and got 33bp.

His defence is 3247 and my attack is 15277.

[War Priest]

Does anyone EVER raid an armory or supply depot? I would not touch half the buildings on the list. Sorry I can't be more help.

Hell, I don't even raid oil rigs. You don't get much money from raiding. If I don't get 100K per attack/raid, it's not worth it.

Then again, I never see anybody with high buildings or nano's.

[Jp lfs]

@Dreno- I just added a longer edit to post #13. Good luck, man.

[Hassleham]

I have a level 6 ore mine which is probably the only good thing to raid on my whole base then haha.

[CAPT.GIN]

So what you guys are saying is its impossible to know this info because of different players defense stats?

[Jp lfs]

The reason I don't target those lower buildings is because of the risk/reward factor.

I lost a million dollar plane today taking down a Level 6 Ore Mine. $400k gain for a $Million unit loss. Also, my casualty rates are ALWAYS higher when raiding unit or defense buildings, so I avoid those completely. Not worth losing a SH or EAD for a minor incremental bump in BP's or VP's.

[Dreno33]

alright, I'm changing the Battlepoints column to correspond with the Enemy's defense range. Each Tier (1-10) will be a different range of defense. That should solve it.

[Hassleham]

If you do it as each tier being 1 tenth of your attack it might work.

e.g Tier 1 is their defence = 1/10 your attack
Tier 2 is the defence = 2/10 your attack
etc.

Also, you might want to add a couple of extra tiers for if their defence is greater than your attack.

[Dreno33]

If you do it as each tier being 1 tenth of your attack it might work.

e.g Tier 1 is their defence = 1/10 your attack
Tier 2 is the defence = 2/10 your attack
etc.

Also, you might want to add a couple of extra tiers for if their defence is greater than your attack.

thanks Queef. Still deciding how to resolve it. I just did an update on how the Column will work. Tell me what you think and how I should change it, everyone.

[Hassleham]

I would do it like this:

Tier:
-1- Opponents defence = 10% your attack.
-2- Opponents defence = 20% your attack.
-3- Opponents defence = 30% your attack.
....
....
-12- Opponents defence = 120% your attack.

(Correct tier calculated by: Your attack/100 = X
Opponents defence/X = %


Because the number of bp depends on your strength COMPARED to theirs. So organising it with fixed values will not work.

[Dreno33]

thank you Queef. I will use that.

NOW ~ time to start inputting calculations(:

[Hassleham]

I'll do some attacks tomorrow and send you some numbers, but right now it's past my bed time!

[Hassleham]

I've gathered some info for this strictly by raiding shipyards. (No particular reason)

1: Level 10, 155 BP, 4 Valor, 5 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

2: Level 11, 166 BP, 5 Valor, 6 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

3: Level 7, 57 BP, 7 Valor, 10 XP. (Level 8 shipyard)

4: Level 6, 80 BP, 5 Valor, 7 XP. (Level 4 shipyard)

5: Level 3, 36 BP, 7 Valor, 8 XP. (Level 6 shipyard)

6: Level 6, 36 BP, 6 Valor, 6 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

Notes: Strange results when comparing 4 and 6. Also comparing 3 and 4.

[Dreno33]

I've gathered some info for this strictly by raiding shipyards. (No particular reason)

1: Level 10, 155 BP, 4 Valor, 5 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

2: Level 11, 166 BP, 5 Valor, 6 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

3: Level 7, 57 BP, 7 Valor, 10 XP. (Level 8 shipyard)

4: Level 6, 80 BP, 5 Valor, 7 XP. (Level 4 shipyard)

5: Level 3, 36 BP, 7 Valor, 8 XP. (Level 6 shipyard)

6: Level 6, 36 BP, 6 Valor, 6 XP. (Level 3 shipyard)

Notes: Strange results when comparing 4 and 6. Also comparing 3 and 4.

thx man, but we aren't doing unit building, lol. too many people said they wouldn't raid those anyways. also, make should to right down which tier you attacked under (1-12)

[Hassleham]

Ahh shizz my bad :P
I put tier there but called it level.

[Corsair]

So, basically, you are trying to reverse engineer the calculations for these numbers? That is some crazy stuff. Your assumption that the A to D ratio is the only variable is unlikely. But if so, you'll figure that out soon enough. :)

[War Priest]

Dreno, you know that there is NO WAY you can make this happen. Saying 20% or 30% and such is still a big window.

[Dreno33]

Dreno, you know that there is NO WAY you can make this happen. Saying 20% or 30% and such is still a big window.

its in the making, lol. But the Battlepoints will get their own Table(s)

[War Priest]

its in the making, lol. But the Battlepoints will get their own Table(s)

It's not going to be 100% correct, therefore, what's the point?

[Dreno33]

It's not going to be 100% correct, therefore, what's the point?

averages will never be 100%, what do you mean? besides. those 12 tiers are not going to be implemented in the Battlepoints Table(s). it'll be many more tiers for better accuracy. I'm just working on it outside of the thread on my mac.

[JMC]

Well you're going to have to find a bunch of different people with a bunch of different defence scores, and calculate all their boosts that add to their boosted stats to find any sort of relation to how many battle points you make from each hit.

Also like others have said, BP doesn't depend on building or anything. If you attack someone and he gives you 50 BP. He will give you 50 whether you attack him, raid his money buildings, raid his defence buildings or any other building. Though raiding defence buildings/boost buildings will drop his stats, at which time he should give you less battle points.

I know i've seen battle point rewards go down by 1 when killing off someone's units.

[Dreno33]

Well you're going to have to find a bunch of different people with a bunch of different defence scores, and calculate all their boosts that add to their boosted stats to find any sort of relation to how many battle points you make from each hit.

the boosted stats from nation and boost buildings are visible, aren't they? i always thought mine were..


Also like others have said, BP doesn't depend on building or anything. If you attack someone and he gives you 50 BP. He will give you 50 whether you attack him, raid his money buildings, raid his defence buildings or any other building.

gotcha, realized they fairly quickly now. just haven't done edit to the OP

[JMC]

the boosted stats from nation and boost buildings are visible, aren't they? i always thought mine were..

They are not. Only you can see your own boosted stats.

[albeezy]

the boosted stats from nation and boost buildings are visible, aren't they? i always thought mine were..

Casualties of camping! Don't worry, you will catch on.

[War Priest]

Casualties of camping! Don't worry, you will catch on.

That's what happens when he finally comes out of the cave. :D

At one point, he thought he was the only one, then walked out and seen another human for the first time.

No worries Dreno, there are tournaments and events too that you can now partake in. Real fun stuff.

[Dreno33]

That's what happens when he finally comes out of the cave. :D

At one point, he thought he was the only one, then walked out and seen another human for the first time.

No worries Dreno, there are tournaments and events too that you can now partake in. Real fun stuff.

too bad no one freakin drops them lol. only found one this whole time PvPing. haven't opened it yet, lolol.

[JMC]

Still got a while before he can really participate in events :P.

No one is going to have them in PvP and getting them off PvE is going to be almost impossible with low energy missions.
I just mess around in CC and when my player only had mission requiring up to 30-45 energy, it'd be 1 in 25 tries or even more before i'd get a box.

[War Priest]

add on PS3 ~ TheDreno33


What a copycat! Haha

[Dreno33]

What a copycat! Haha

i know right?! good idea, lol

[War Priest]

i know right?! good idea, lol

Haha, I needed more friends that weren't strangers on there. It works too. Had a few add me from here.