50% more cash? Seriously?

[mnju_03]

I'm paying to win this, this will be fun for the future gameplay once I finish my TL goals.

[Munch on it]

Does it mean the person you rob looses more or does it come out of funzios share I wonder?

[mnju_03]

I assume it just adds the 50% to it from thin air, nothing comes out of the loser. That would cause a riot.

[AppleMacGuy]

No this is the one that was obviously coming at some point...currently there is 80% split between robber and the victim - 40/40 and a 'missing' 20% goes into a black hole...well not anymore. the robber will get 60%, so the split is 60/40 = 100%...as you can see this is the 50% increase that the bonus prize offers. Simple maths really.

[Tiger187]

No this is the one that was obviously coming at some point...currently there is 80% split between robber and the victim - 40/40 and a 'missing' 20% goes into a black hole...well not anymore. the robber will get 60%, so the split is 60/40 = 100%...as you can see this is the 50% increase that the bonus prize offers. Simple maths really.

hey a.h are u the guy like lvl 200

[nopenopenope]

No this is the one that was obviously coming at some point...currently there is 80% split between robber and the victim - 40/40 and a 'missing' 20% goes into a black hole...well not anymore. the robber will get 60%, so the split is 60/40 = 100%...as you can see this is the 50% increase that the bonus prize offers. Simple maths really.

"+50% cash from robberies" is ambiguous. Another scenario could be rob output at 50% total for a 10% overall increase over base, taken from the 20% house rake which would then be 10%.

[AppleMacGuy]

hey a.h are u the guy like lvl 200

Ummm that is what it says in my sig?

[AppleMacGuy]

"+50% cash from robberies" is ambiguous. Another scenario could be rob output at 50% total for a 10% overall increase over base, taken from the 20% house rake which would then be 10%.

It's not ambiguous at all...if a building has an output of $1000, currently you can rob $400 from it - $200 x2. With the bonus you will be able be able to rob $600 from it - $300 x2. What can possibly be ambiguous about that?

As I said previously, the missing 20% that used to vanish into a black hole comes into play with this bonus.

[nopenopenope]

The ambiguity arises from your assumption that the gun adds 50% to the existing formula, since this gun can also be interpreted to potentially change the formula to a new rob value of 50%, thereby changing the formula to 50% + 40% + 10%.

I never try to assume anything new in this game...

[Munch on it]

The ambiguity arises from your assumption that the gun adds 50% to the existing formula, since this gun can also be interpreted to potentially change the formula to a new rob value of 50%, thereby changing the formula to 50% + 40% + 10%.

I never try to assume anything new in this game...

The gun does say + 50% not 50% so I'd say it is + 50% of what you already get

[nopenopenope]

The gun does say + 50% not 50% so I'd say it is + 50% of what you already get

I hope so! That would be the more lucrative outcome... ;)

[jmeijer]

I don't like the grand prize. I won't participate in this event.

[Boom]

Don't pay for it! 1 Gold> 1m ingame money

[Dreno33]

it takes away that 20% robbing fee and rewards you an extra 30% for having good luck(:

[Luciferianism]

When I saw it I was like oh wow this is a total game changer then I remembered cash is almost pointless except for buying jets at 84M a pop.

[ShawnBB]

It says "50% cash from robbery", not "50% more cash from rob"

I think nope's interpretation could be right.
Just 10% more, this item is a crap :(

[dudeman]

It says "50% cash from robbery", not "50% more cash from rob"

I think nope's interpretation could be right.
Just 10% more, this item is a crap :(

One robbery = one tap = 20% of building value. +50% of 20% = 10% of building value. 20% + 10% = 30% of building value. Two robberies = 60% of building value.

Victim collects 40% as always, robber collects 60%, +50% from before.

Y u geniuses no figure out 2 + 1 = 3?!?!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/089/665/tumblr_l96b01l36p1qdhmifo1_500.jpg

[AppleMacGuy]

One robbery = one tap = 20% of building value. +50% of 20% = 10% of building value. 20% + 10% = 30% of building value. Two robberies = 60% of building value.

Victim collects 40% as always, robber collects 60%, +50% from before.

Y u geniuses no figure out 2 + 1 = 3?!?!


Well exactly...I explained the calculation to arrive at the same conclusion as you previously in post 8.

Aaaarghhh...

[BOS]

Well exactly...I explained the calculation to arrive at the same conclusion as you previously in post 8.

Aaaarghhh...

AMG, are you going to use gold for this one?

[dudeman]

Well exactly...I explained the calculation to arrive at the same conclusion as you previously in post 8.

Aaaarghhh...

Yes, argh indeed! Your explanation was perfectly fine and there was still further debate over the non-issue.

[Ramshutu]

This is a standard stats thing.

If you had two bacon sandwhiches one of which said "increases your risk of getting bowl cancer by 33%" and one that said "increases your chances of getting bowl cancer by 0.2%" which would you eat?

You'd probably choose the second, until you realise that they both mean the same thing, but measured two different ways.

If you robbed 40% of a buildings total, and 60% after, that is a 50% increase in your rob percentage, but a 20% increase in the total building robbery.

[SevenO9]

Paying gold for this? Don't think so. As there is an unknown random factor no math on earth can help. Experience says you can easily spend a vault to brute force the final price. That equals 50 million ingame for me. That means I need to rob 100 million to break even. Thats a looong time ...

[Ramshutu]

Paying gold for this? Don't think so. As there is an unknown random factor no math on earth can help. Experience says you can easily spend a vault to brute force the final price. That equals 50 million ingame for me. That means I need to rob 100 million to break even. Thats a looong time ...

Actually, the 10th item seems to have a drop rate of 2%. You can calculate the percentile confidence and probability of obtaining it from a given amount of gold with fairly easy maths.

I think if memory served it was something like 570 gold for a 75% chance to get from 9 to 10 items.

[mnju_03]

Well, I like it and want it. Ya'll bunch of haters. Plus I need a reason to spend some money on here. It's been too long.

[BOS]

It's too long.

That's what she said

[SevenO9]

Actually, the 10th item seems to have a drop rate of 2%. You can calculate the percentile confidence and probability of obtaining it from a given amount of gold with fairly easy maths.

I think if memory served it was something like 570 gold for a 75% chance to get from 9 to 10 items.

I highly doubt anyone outside of Funzio knows the odds for the current event.

You are taking samples from previous events and extrapolate current drop rates.

"Funzio not only plays dice, they also sometimes throw the dice where they cannot be seen" (Me with some help from Stephen Hawking)

[mnju_03]

That's what she said

Zing.... if by that you mean my invoices from gold spending, yes....

[BOS]

Zing.... if by that you mean my invoices from gold spending, yes....

Lol, I want this item too. May have to end the gold drought as well

[Max Power]

When I saw it I was like oh wow this is a total game changer then I remembered cash is almost pointless except for buying jets at 84M a pop.

Exactly. I am collecting cash for cash sake at this point. Unless something increases mt attack/defense stats, I am not that into it.

Funzio should really look at just giving away a prize like the grand prize in scratchers for these things. In game money and respect points at a certain level are worthless. They have still not found a way to make this game endure for HL players, other than the handful in the swinging **** contest.

[Babytway]

Exactly. I am collecting cash for cash sake at this point. Unless something increases mt attack/defense stats, I am not that into it.

Funzio should really look at just giving away a prize like the grand prize in scratchers for these things. In game money and respect points at a certain level are worthless. They have still not found a way to make this game endure for HL players, other than the handful in the swinging **** contest.

another contest funzio screwed me out of!!!

[erik]

This is a fun one for sure... but for M+$/hr folks or anyone considering jets, robbing is a very small part of their income... even a beast like AMC on robberies.

No gold for me unless I hit 9 naturally with 2 days to go and can use them on the hour.

gl guys!

[Yahkin]

This is a standard stats thing.

If you had two bacon sandwhiches one of which said "increases your risk of getting bowl cancer by 33%" and one that said "increases your chances of getting bowl cancer by 0.2%" which would you eat?

You'd probably choose the second, until you realise that they both mean the same thing, but measured two different ways.

Bowl = Bowel
33% = .33
0.2% = .002

Just to screw with your mind... You should chose option 2 because option 1 has a 16,500% higher chance of giving you bowel cancer.

[BOS]

I didn't know bacon caused bowl cancer... Dishes are expensive these days ;)

[DenZ1]

i almost don't rob. Maybe couple of times a week.. or as a revenge. This one not worth gold for me.
Same as rocket launcher.. not a deal breaker at all.

[AppleMacGuy]

AMG, are you going to use gold for this one?

yep...got to 8 having used 3 cash opens and 7 resets...now opening hourly using gold option...

[AppleMacGuy]

Yes, argh indeed! Your explanation was perfectly fine and there was still further debate over the non-issue.

np...btw my aaarghhh was not aimed at you but at the others questioning how the 50% was not 50%...:D

[BOS]

yep...got to 8 having used 3 cash opens and 7 resets...now opening hourly using gold option...

Cool, I will probably gold it after 8 as well. Good luck!

[ShawnBB]

Sorry about the dumb confusion, I should probably higher the brightness of my iPad...
Didn't see there was a "+" sign before that "50% cash from rob" :(

Anyway, will just open as much as I can and see how lucky I am.

[Ramshutu]

Bowl = Bowel
33% = .33
0.2% = .002

Just to screw with your mind... You should chose option 2 because option 1 has a 16,500% higher chance of giving you bowel cancer.

Autocorrect fail aside, it could even be the other way around.

[mnju_03]

Bowl....lol
I was wondering how long it would take you to fix...

[nopenopenope]

np...btw my aaarghhh was not aimed at you but at the others questioning how the 50% was not 50%...:D

and @dudeman, I never disagreed that your obvious conclusions were untrue, only trying to shed light on other possibilities that could be taken for granted. I have a heavy opinion that you are right in this case, but I have to remain skeptical when it comes to any new content in this game. A forum exists for exactly this reason, no need for ridicule.

[AppleMacGuy]

For avoidance of doubt, I now have 'The Corpse Maker' from the Teller Machine event and can categorically confirm that robberies will yield 60% of the building output..tested it just now on a L10 ice cream shop. As robberies yielded 40% previously, the increase is indeed 50% as advertised.

This thread can now be closed :p

[Paulio]

another contest funzio screwed me out of!!!

Hehe, gotta understand the author to get that one.

[mnju_03]

Lol yea true...

[NTM]

For avoidance of doubt, I now have 'The Corpse Maker' from the Teller Machine event and can categorically confirm that robberies will yield 60% of the building output..tested it just now on a L10 ice cream shop. As robberies yielded 40% previously, the increase is indeed 50% as advertised.

This thread can now be closed :p

yup same here working good :)

a guy in game rob me all day last 2 weeks, but now i put 10 bullets and got a good rob lol... he can rob me not important money back fast ^^