High Priest Hoarders

[Great_wall2]

Gotta love the old white man with his big pimping stick keeping attackers in check...

So with that being said how many High Priest units are you hoarding and who will be the greatest hoarder of the Great White Pimp of all time?

I'm up to 475...

[Populouspapa]

Just bought my 2000th

[Bea]

Only on 175, but growing steadily...

[Great_wall2]

Just bought my 2000th

Dang, that's a lot of pimps! I bow to your superiority....

How long did it take to amass that many?

[tcapi]

What is the defeat rate? Very low?

[Dewsy]

What is the defeat rate? Very low?

Just low.

Just hit 300 myself.

[BooMan]

Just bought my 2000th

What is the point of having many more than 1,500? Isn't 1,500 the max number you can bring out at a time?

I guess having a buffer of 50 or so to allow for losses makes sense but 500 is a large safety margin.....

[tcapi]

Level 200 X 5 = 1,000 allies
1,000 allies X 3 = 3,000 armies in total

Has the cap on allies revised yet since the level is now max at 200?

[CounterSniper]

Level 200 X 5 = 1,000 allies

1,000 allies X 3 = 3,000 armies in total

This was covered before & verified by support for people handing out incorrect info.

Max number of allies that can be brought into battle is exactly the same as CC & MW. 500

So, 500 x 3 units per allie = 1500 units brought to battle

[Skoty422]

Wow. I'm way behind I guess. I only have 140. :( I guess I better tighten up!!

[Jeshu]

what's the casualty rate?

[CounterSniper]

what's the casualty rate?

Read comment #6. Seek and ye shall find.

[Jeshu]

Read comment #6. Seek and ye shall find.

My bad, I thought he was talking about how many number of units he had compared to the 2000 one...

[BrodawgCanada]

I have 384, level 98 attack 35,000 defense 46,000 fights won 16,000 fights lost 306

[lucita]

That's quite a good fight record.
But wouldn't you lose your priest quite often with the high frequency of fight?
My stats are comparable to yours, but I already loss my priest every now and then even with only 1xx.
And is such a (relatively) high defense necessary at your level?
:)

[BrodawgCanada]

That's quite a good fight record.
But wouldn't you lose your priest quite often with the high frequency of fight?
My stats are comparable to yours, but I already loss my priest every now and then even with only 1xx.
And is such a (relatively) high defense necessary at your level?
:)
I do loose my high priests fairly often, once 3 in one attack!!! If I attack players with under 10,000 defense I don't loose any units and earn tonnes of honor, I have 190 cannons so far. The cannon is my attack unit and high priest is my defence. I don't really get attacked too often, but want high defense just incase. How much have u spent on the game?? I have spent $50 and still have 456 gems left to spend from that $50!! Waiting for next event. Add me 287-583-045

[ShawnBB]

Is everyone here all free players?
I started HP plan on my first game play day and just got 750 of them so far. Some dude reached 2000?wtf?

Using Imp to take HP away from battle is very costy. I'm confused,how can player keep piling HP while PvP?
Hopefully KA is not having the same casualty glitch as MW :(

[Freekizh]

Is everyone here all free players?
I started HP plan on my first game play day and just got 750 of them so far. Some dude reached 2000?wtf?

Using Imp to take HP away from battle is very costy. I'm confused,how can player keep piling HP while PvP?
Hopefully KA is not having the same casualty glitch as MW :(

Shawn you are right..HP is very costly for PvP and for that reason I haves used a different approach until I can afford to use imps. I currently have less than 50 HP.

A lot of people in KA don't do much PvP as they are too busy collecting loot, so those guys no problems to buy lots of HP. Also I see a lot go guys with big armies neglect their economies too.

The guy with 2000 HP ...well..lol

[War Eagle]

I've upgraded my Spire to lvl 7 for the High Priests... but I'm taking a slightly different approach.
I'm upgrading my attack units first... and then I'll start buying High Priests.
For now I'm using Zeppelins for defense while I build up my Flaming Catapults (200 of those so far).

[Hunterhan37]

Just bought my 2000th

Woo, May I ask what is your IPH?

[SirMW]

I have about 175 HP. It's sufficient for my level since I was able to build both manor. My current meat shields are imps with canons and Flaming Catapults as my primary attack units. My flaming catapults will starting dying once it go belong 12. Not sure how to increase the number of flaming catapults without it dying.

@War Eagle - what's your flaming catapults causality rate? what % of your attacks are from flaming catapults?

[Great_wall2]

I've been balancing my HP units by buying siege towers at the same rate (have about 450 of them give or take). That way I I ensure that I only take the high attack low cost units into battle when I PVP and not my pimps.

[Hoodcrazy]

Im hoping casualty rate and cost is the High Priest eventual downfall, im going for lowest casualty units so one day if i ever get into a rivalry with a High Pimp army maybe i can grind them down unless they have unlimited funds.

[lucita]

I do loose my high priests fairly often, once 3 in one attack!!! If I attack players with under 10,000 defense I don't loose any units and earn tonnes of honor, I have 190 cannons so far. The cannon is my attack unit and high priest is my defence. I don't really get attacked too often, but want high defense just incase. How much have u spent on the game?? I have spent $50 and still have 456 gems left to spend from that $50!! Waiting for next event. Add me 287-583-045

oh....even if I lose one I feel bad :p I think Funzio changed the algorithm in the last few days and it's not easy for me to find those <10k anymore. Plus I get a whole bunch of new names and now I'm just becoming more lazy to attack and for the game in general.
Correctly me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you don't do a lot of tourny? I'm on 170+ but wonder attacking ply with higher ally/high def vs those on lower stat may be slightly worse off due to the higher casualty rate. I pick my target carefully and still have already lost 40 canons so far....if not b'cos of that I would have slightly more than you.
I'm free and we're already ally. Man, I scroll thru my entire 500 ally to find who you're by checking all those at lvl 98 but couldn't match anyone to you. and the ally list interface really sucks.....

[SirMW]

No, never get into a war fest with anyone. It's a lose lose situation.
There was a person who keep on attacking me several hours in a row; I lost nothing. I ask him to stop and he actually say why I was complaining since it's a war game. His attack is less than half of my defense and my attack is greater than his defense. You would think he would wise up after couple of fail attacks. I almost unload everything on him but decided not to and work toward my objectives. He is helping people who's already on my news feed which kind of piss me off.

[Great_wall2]

Has anyone gone into a grind fest war? I have never been pissed off enuff to do this to anyone, but would really like to find out.

Biggest problem I see is that you are limited by attacks even though stamina allows you to do 24 attacks per hour.

I don't think you could grind anyone down quickly enough to penetrate their defenses, especially someone who has a decent/good economy. I've been attacked quite a bit and maybe have lost 2-3 HP in total. I find you rarely lose any units when defending vs what the attacker most likely loses.

I once was up against a gem player who beat me a couple of times but overall couldn't keep up with my output of pimps. He/she no longer attacks me...

[asdfg12345]

I don't think you could grind anyone down quickly enough to penetrate their defenses, especially someone who has a decent/good economy. I've been attacked quite a bit and maybe have lost 2-3 HP in total. I find you rarely lose any units when defending vs what the attacker most likely loses.

I once was up against a gem player who beat me a couple of times but overall couldn't keep up with my output of pimps. He/she no longer attacks me...
Happen to me before too. Once i started to ignore their taunts, they stopped attacking me after awhile after realizing they are losing alot more than me.

[The_Red]

This was covered before & verified by support for people handing out incorrect info.


Amazing CS is still butt hurt over that.




Edit: Per the original post - I've got 300 HP. 650 Imp. 350 Manticore. (keeping attack units relatively cheap.)

[CounterSniper]

[QUOTE=The_Red;293660]Amazing CS is still butt hurt over that.

QUOTE]

The only thing worse than trolls are trolls who state opinions as facts and this forum is a place for facts, not for disinformation or douchery of which you seem to deliver both with reckless abandon.

I realize you probably dont mean to pass out incorrect info but you have what is commonly known as Nooby Know-It-All Syndrome and just cant help yourself. The douchery is likely a byproduct of your upbringing.


Players come here to learn things & people like you make that difficult if not impossible. So really, grow up lil fella, if you have a problem with facts or acting reasonable then pound sand. The forum will be a better place without all that noise.

I made the mistake of assuming you moved on and lifted your "ignore" but was wrong as apparently your butt is still hurting(I mean really, who takes issue with facts) or you wouldnt have even posted that drivel so back on "ignore" you go.

I also realize Ive inflicted some pain by speaking truths but ya know what? You'll live. :cool:

[The_Red]

[QUOTE=The_Red;293660]Amazing CS is still butt hurt over that.

QUOTE]

The only thing worse than trolls are trolls who state opinions as facts and this forum is a place for facts, not for disinformation or douchery of which you seem to deliver both with reckless abandon.

I realize you probably dont mean to pass out incorrect info but you have what is commonly known as Nooby Know-It-All Syndrome and just cant help yourself. The douchery is likely a byproduct of your upbringing.


Players come here to learn things & people like you make that difficult if not impossible. So really, grow up lil fella, if you have a problem with facts or acting reasonable then pound sand. The forum will be a better place without all that noise.

I made the mistake of assuming you moved on and lifted your "ignore" but was wrong as apparently your butt is still hurting(I mean really, who takes issue with facts) or you wouldnt have even posted that drivel so back on "ignore" you go.

I also realize Ive inflicted some pain by speaking truths but ya know what? You'll live. :cool:

you take this game far too seriously.

[Joe Brown1]

Currently at about 470. Also adding Siege Towers and Cannons for attack as well. About 415 Siege Towers.

[Coog]

I only have 187 of the bearded old geezers this far. My defense of 21 000 maybe doesn't sound like that much but at level 60+ it has proven to be well enough to keep my back safe. I have prioritized other things, as the economy, but soon enough I will start loading up with the old folks.;)

[The_Red]

Currently at about 470. Also adding Siege Towers and Cannons for attack as well. About 415 Siege Towers.

How do you find the PvP casualty rates on the Siege Towers? I'm trying to figure out where to move from imps/manticores.

[Aoxoa]

Siege towers die too frequently, IMO. I've noticed that my wyverns die much less than the towers - probably enough to warrant the cost, but I haven't measured it that closely.

[Joe Brown1]

I mainly raid right now. My attack is almost 23,000 at lvl 66 with 142 allies so I have plenty of targets with D of less than 50% of my A. I have found on raiding, as long as I keep my opponents D <50% of my A I almost never lose a unit. For PvP I use 35%. I just don't find PvP very lucrative at my level but raiding gives me good amounts of gold for minimal XP to keep my leveling under control.

[ShawnBB]

Shawn you are right..HP is very costly for PvP and for that reason I haves used a different approach until I can afford to use imps. I currently have less than 50 HP.

A lot of people in KA don't do much PvP as they are too busy collecting loot, so those guys no problems to buy lots of HP. Also I see a lot go guys with big armies neglect their economies too.

The guy with 2000 HP ...well..lol

Wow, Great guide in your signature. You really digged the #%* out of this game!
Nice work,that's a lot of writing... Would be a good research paper in college,lol

Probably quit this game by the time I fully bought HPs and weapons...

[Al_raine]

Seems like the HP is the choice unit for high defense. I already have enough HPs for now and I am now thinking offensive. Currently using manticore and siege towers.

flaming trebuchet or the basilisk stand out to me. Upgrades for the den are way expensive. Is it worth upgrading to get the basilisk, then hydra and finally the dragon? Major concerns are risking unvaulted gold and spending all that money that could have been used on units.

What is the highest Den out there? Was it worth the upgrade cost?

[Olly1]

Noob question, but what unit is this high priest you speak of? It it a loot item or an item in the store?

[Hapl0]

Unit from the store from the advanced magic units, need lvl7 wizard spire, stat 11/32 and a cost 2800 gold each.

[spectra]

Noob question, but what unit is this high priest you speak of? It it a loot item or an item in the store?
High Priest in the store, cost $2,800 has 11/32 A/D you need lv-7 wizard's spire
excellent for DEF

[Freekizh]

Wow, Great guide in your signature. You really digged the #%* out of this game!
Nice work,that's a lot of writing... Would be a good research paper in college,lol

Probably quit this game by the time I fully bought HPs and weapons...

Thanks pal..I always respect seasoned CC and MW player opinions. This is actually a research project for me, and it is very serious business even though I am having too much fun :)

I don't like to give too much advice for units and the HP was a big problem becos of its cost and you couldn't do PvP for a long time! Remember the ambulance in MW lasts a long time before everyone went for the more expensive defense units, and with 200 levels you can drag it out for a very long time in KA.

P.s. I got your ally invite and will add later as I am doing an experiment at the moment. Everyone please resend all your ally invites please :p

[Hapl0]

Ok Freekizh, it will be good if u share ur results too ;)

[Freekizh]

Ok Freekizh, it will be good if u share ur results too ;)

I always do pal :) its the start of the whale territory guide. I have to say losing is quite fun though I am not used to it..hehe. I've lost more fights in a few hours than I have in two months! One of my very strongest gem allies at level 73 just lost 200k becos he didn't know about whale..oops..

[Hapl0]

Too bad, the whale zone it must be really scary, how big are the stats of these whales?

[ShawnBB]

Too bad, the whale zone it must be really scary, how big are the stats of these whales?

Whales usually have a density of 200+,through my experience...
20000/20000+ for each 100 Allie.

Being lucky lately, whales left me alone since I'm a tough kingdom full of old men with white robes,lol.




Appreciate your work for the forum F., ghost is no longer here:(

[lucita]

heya, be nice to hapl0 and don't scare him/her off!
It's more useful to look at the absolute value rather than unit density. 20k/100 allie sorta suggest that those lvl 100 guy with max ally would have 100k/100k, and I can tell you it's not the case.

I'm kinda surprise that someone who achieve lvl 73 would have 200k unvault gold. I think most people who know the existence of player with so much gold left around will attack even with more or less the same stats not matter you're in whale land or not.

hapl0, surviving in whale land is not that difficult. If you have about 30k def, no unvault gold, be careful with your 12/24/48 building, and don't get excess ally to be prized tourny target and don't do anything stupid like provoking whales then you'll have a high chance of them leaving you alone.

[MaverickMunkey]

Here is a question for you all!

For a non-gold player, what sort of A/D figures do you think would be accepteable per 100 allies?

10k A/D per 100? 15k A/D per 100?

[The_Red]

Here is a question for you all!

For a non-gold player, what sort of A/D figures do you think would be accepteable per 100 allies?

10k A/D per 100? 15k A/D per 100?

I think 10k/100 is pretty average for people 200+ allies and really high levels. I've been trying to target 100 per ally.

[Joshlmccoy]

Here is a question for you all!

For a non-gold player, what sort of A/D figures do you think would be accepteable per 100 allies?

10k A/D per 100? 15k A/D per 100?

I'm sitting at about 13.3k A/100. However, I only have 150 allies. If you can maintain a 15k A/100 allies until you
max at 500 allies, you'll be looking pretty good.

[lucita]

Here is a question for you all!

For a non-gold player, what sort of A/D figures do you think would be accepteable per 100 allies?

10k A/D per 100? 15k A/D per 100?

I'm not sure if a hard figure, particularly an a/d per ally figure, makes the most sense for your situation. On the strategic level you wanna have the min. def so for your to put the resource into whatever you wanna do, may it be building, upgrading, building att, PvP, PvE. Assuming you've still in lvl 62, the number can loss its significance once you entre whale territory, which is around 72ish right now.
Another reason (or excuse :p) that I can't put a figure here is that there're so many blackbox operation that Funzio can change: battle list formation / max attack limit / recover rate / casualty rate, just to name a few. For example, there're the dark ages when attack limit was 5 and if that happen again you can have lower defense cos there's a certain limit of attack you'd receive.
I think you can 'feel' you've got the right defense if you're happy with the attacks you get. While I was at your level my defense was just a bit above average but haven't got any attack since then because there're way more fat fish than me lying around. For that I could feel comfortable to spend my resource to build an attack army and do PvP.

[Hapl0]

Thanks ShawnBB and Lucita for ur responses (btw i'm a guy), i'm just wondering about the whales but not scared yet, why? I'm lvl8 and in camping mode so when i'll reach the actual whale zone maybe this zone will be above lvl100. Maybe 30k isn't enough (somebody just lower his allies for this reason) so i presume ur defense it's way above this. My top ally is lvl98 and has a defense above 40K and maxed allied.
Thanks a lot for ur tips lucita, u r a nice girl/guy. ;)

[MaverickMunkey]

I'm not sure if a hard figure, particularly an a/d per ally figure, makes the most sense for your situation. On the strategic level you wanna have the min. def so for your to put the resource into whatever you wanna do, may it be building, upgrading, building att, PvP, PvE. Assuming you've still in lvl 62, the number can loss its significance once you entre whale territory, which is around 72ish right now.
Another reason (or excuse :p) that I can't put a figure here is that there're so many blackbox operation that Funzio can change: battle list formation / max attack limit / recover rate / casualty rate, just to name a few. For example, there're the dark ages when attack limit was 5 and if that happen again you can have lower defense cos there's a certain limit of attack you'd receive.
I think you can 'feel' you've got the right defense if you're happy with the attacks you get. While I was at your level my defense was just a bit above average but haven't got any attack since then because there're way more fat fish than me lying around. For that I could feel comfortable to spend my resource to build an attack army and do PvP.


At the moment I haven't lost a battle (touch wood and hoping that fate doesn't hear this!!!!) for about a month, so my defense seems to be holding ok and my gold is always below my vault max.

[tcapi]

I will check in with 20 + rivals or allies of the similar level, compare A/D with them and see what units they invest in. You could roughly guess where they have invested in the skills too if you look close enough on the stats.

[Great_wall2]

523 Great White Pimps now...

Still well off the 2000 from previous poster, but getting there. I had to spend a lot of dough on vault upgrades.

I'm level 70 now, 185 allies and just below 29,000 def... Getting closer to whale territory!

[ShawnBB]

Just got invaded by a whale...

750 Steam Tank (lvl10 gnomish lab), countless other end game gold units.
Thousand 20000 cost weapons purchased from shop.
Income 2800.....
My poor old men can't do #%*£. I'm 290 Allie,46000 def.

Great wall, welcome to whale zone!

[MaverickMunkey]

Just got invaded by a whale...

750 Steam Tank (lvl10 gnomish lab), countless other end game gold units.
Thousand 20000 cost weapons purchased from shop.
Income 2800.....
My poor old men can't do #%*£. I'm 290 Allie,46000 def.

Great wall, welcome to whale zone!

How the hell did they purchase all that with that income?

[ShawnBB]

How the hell did they purchase all that with that income?

I read from his wall that he is coaching other players about whether to buy gem or in game gold.
Looks like he is a gold buyer...

[MaverickMunkey]

I read from his wall that he is coaching other players about whether to buy gem or in game gold.
Looks like he is a gold buyer...

Damn! That is some serious money he has spent on gold!

[Futon]

I'm a little over 200 but i never lose when anyone attacks me and i've been spending my gold on quest chain junk. I only have 85 allies so it's no big deal :p

[Freekizh]

I'm kinda surprise that someone who achieve lvl 73 would have 200k unvault gold. I think most people who know the existence of player with so much gold left around will attack even with more or less the same stats not matter you're in whale land or not.


If you lose 200k, you will have much much more than that! :) he will easily be a 100k player by level 100, and his 10k IPH means only 1 day of output. But at level 73 not much you can do!

Most players with 1000+ weapons have 100k stats and they are doing well - I had one such ally who has amassed 11million in gold. So makes sense to buy gold to buy weapons if you have high IPH. Too bad I unallied him :(

[Jeshu]

If you lose 200k, you will have much much more than that! :) he will easily be a 100k player by level 100, and his 10k IPH means only 1 day of output. But at level 73 not much you can do!

Most players with 1000+ weapons have 100k stats and they are doing well - I had one such ally who has amassed 11million in gold. So makes sense to buy gold to buy weapons if you have high IPH. Too bad I unallied him :(

Do you remember what was his alliance ID?

[Great_wall2]

Just got invaded by a whale...

750 Steam Tank (lvl10 gnomish lab), countless other end game gold units.
Thousand 20000 cost weapons purchased from shop.
Income 2800.....
My poor old men can't do #%*£. I'm 290 Allie,46000 def.

Great wall, welcome to whale zone!

What level are you?

That whale has spent a lot of real money for gold. Adding up the steam tanks and the weapons alone based on current sale of gold adds up to $3000 plus spent in real money. That doesn't take into account the cost of the upgrades either or how much he/she is collecting from their economy or PVP.

[enahs1]

Speaking of a lot of unvaulted gold! ;)
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/enahs1237/fdc505a3.jpg

[Hapl0]

Wow enahs1, u must have a good defense or are turtling gold for unknown reason.

[enahs1]

I was camping but there was no more buildings to build so I rose up a few levels

[ShawnBB]

Speaking of a lot of unvaulted gold! ;)
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/enahs1237/fdc505a3.jpg


The first reaction in my mind is,

too much opportunity cost here...:p

[enahs1]

Hahaha I can't wait until I can get a wizards spire and get it to level 7 and buy lots of high priests

[MaverickMunkey]

The first reaction in my mind is,

too much opportunity cost here...:p

My second reaction was.......damn I wish I was still in the 20s!!

[ShawnBB]

My second reaction was.......damn I wish I was still in the 20s!!

Ya.. Miss those times with a peaceful life.
Now I can never put down my second manor until the vault goes up:(
take care on leveling up, folks.

[MaverickMunkey]

Ya.. Miss those times with a peaceful life.
Now I can never put down my second manor until the vault goes up:(
take care on leveling up, folks.

Im not even thinking about building one until my vault is high enough!

[lucita]

It's not as difficult as many people think. There're many tricks that you can do such as saving the last strikes on monster, matching rewards from ally/attack/def quest & synchronizing building harvest time. I've built my high cost buildings 4 times the size my vault with close to no risk (well, at most 5 minutes for the execution of the above) using those techniques combined. At your level even single strikes on monster only can get you 100k worth of cash

[asdfg12345]

Ya.. Miss those times with a peaceful life.
Now I can never put down my second manor until the vault goes up:(
take care on leveling up, folks.
Your defense is high as hell for your level, thought you would have no problem getting a manor.

[tcapi]

From where I am, ShawnBB keeps on popping up among the high 70s rivals with full allies despite her level and relatively low number of allies. Somehow she is not off the radar screen.

[Freekizh]

Your defense is high as hell for your level, thought you would have no problem getting a manor.

Are you serious? LOL

[asdfg12345]

Are you serious? LOL
have you seen the other people on your battle list lol

[URDead]

I think I have 650 or so high priests. gotta update the sig block,I thin I am at about 42k defense right now......Trying to build that second mannor...

[Freekizh]

have you seen the other people on your battle list lol

You have a point lol..I don't bother looking much. I am too lazy :)

But Shawn is deep in whale territory and will come onthe radar more often.

[URDead]

Whale territory is a super $*%CH for free players. I keep getting blasted by guys that are like 55-60k attack. But sometimes it happens. Hard to get those level 2 mannors going with whales like that...

[asdfg12345]

Whale territory is a super $*%CH for free players. I keep getting blasted by guys that are like 55-60k attack. But sometimes it happens. Hard to get those level 2 mannors going with whales like that...
Hell, even level 1 manor is hard to get.

[Hunterhan37]

Hell, even level 1 manor is hard to get.

Stay away from the whale, and saving for my manor. :-)

[Coog]

Ya.. Miss those times with a peaceful life.
Now I can never put down my second manor until the vault goes up:(
take care on leveling up, folks.

Glad I read this forums. I just plunked down my second manor and I'm at level 69, just short of the whale territory. I was shot down once, losing like 128 000, but I'm glad I've managed to build them before getting in with the big boys.

[Freekizh]

There are many negatives to being in whale, and only a few positives for some advanced players. Unfortunately, the positives are quite important.

[Coog]

There are many negatives to being in whale, and only a few positives for some advanced players. Unfortunately, the positives are quite important.

Care to elaborate on the positives? I'm just about ready to dip my toes in whale waters and are sucking up every bit of information I can.

[Freekizh]

Care to elaborate on the positives? I'm just about ready to dip my toes in whale waters and are sucking up every bit of information I can.

The positive is that you can continue to acquire loot and skills points at an unfettered rate.

The second is that you can grow in sufficient strength such that you gain the respect of whales so that they will ally with you, while they have the need for allies. Eventually they will become so overwhelmingly strong and fully allied that it will become a meat and bone grinding factory for any new whale entrants. That's what I call barriers to entry :)

[P4TR1C14N]

Pffff, when you read threads as this one, then you really get demotivated when you're a free player that does login about 2 times a day :).

I'm going to put a black sticker on the energy bar in order to prevent i even try to attack monsters or players. Levelling up for me is without doubt a real suicide mission.

Oh, i may not forget to put a sticker also on the rival list to prevent i even look at it an by accident push the attack button.

I din't think i would ever say it, but i fear i will need to camp with my play style :(

[enahs1]

What is your guys vault limit? I want to see if I'm doing good on that part.

[Coog]

What is your guys vault limit? I want to see if I'm doing good on that part.

My limit is 115000. I guess people who started to play earlier is way higher.

[Skoty422]

Finally over 200. Lvl 67 95 allies. I'm same as you coog but not a single manor here. Maybe I'll have to wait to save for them now. Keeping unvaulted gold is dangerous in the upper 60s.

[Coog]

Yes, I think that's a good idea, I've read post in here from very strong players that don't manage to build their manors when reaching whale territory. But with the vault at 200 you are pretty close to build them with out any risk at all, so good job there.:p

[Everson25]

My vault is also on 115k, 21 days to go on max. I will start saving for my first Manor.

[Skoty422]

No. High priest at 205. Lol.I noticed when this thread started I was way behind with 140. I'm just glad to finally be over 200. I haven't been playing long enough to have my vault over 200! I'm not worried about building a manor until my vault can handle one. I use all the extra gold on units and equipment until I get there. I'm just building my lenders because I waited until I could vault my gold.

[Coog]

No. High priest at 205. Lol.I noticed when this thread started I was way behind with 140. I'm just glad to finally be over 200. I haven't been playing long enough to have my vault over 200! I'm not worried about building a manor until my vault can handle one. I use all the extra gold on units and equipment until I get there. I'm just building my lenders because I waited until I could vault my gold.

Ahhh, I see old bearded men at 200.:eek: Thought vault at 200 sounded high but who am I to question you?

[Skoty422]

Well it's prolly "weeks" , not hours or days to get past 200k. I think it's only 20-30k per upgrade??

[Coog]

Well it's prolly "weeks" , not hours or days to get past 200k. I think it's only 20-30k per upgrade??

Yes, my last upgrade was from 88 000 to 115 000 if i remember correctly. What's your capacity now?

[Skoty422]

115 tomorrow.

[Coog]

115 tomorrow.

Woot! Welcome to the 115 club!

[Skoty422]

Lol. Thanks! :)

[URDead]

After 115 to 165 the next upgrade is to 250 then to 330.

The problem with hoarding 700+ high priests is you have to then buy the equal amount of other units with a higher attack than 11 otherwise you suffer the consequences of losing those pimps in a PvP fight. Right now I cannot do any tournament rounds until I buy some more beast Manticors with 16 attack.

[Great_wall2]

I'm at 620 or so now, been buying mostly catapults at the same rate as the seige towers are dropping like flies in PVP... However I am stock piling pimps and sitting at lower allies but still have very high defense for the time being, hopefully to dodge some of the whales....

[ShawnBB]

Honor units in KA is not as strong as in MW or KA. Lot of high end cash unit can replace cannon.

So sitting defending and pve will get you to a better situation than PvP.

I'm not gonna climb allie much to let whales find me too easy.

300 Allie with 850 old folks and 50 other elite units right now, haven't met any whale in 2 weeks.:)
Might consider upgrade manor and lender.

[Great_wall2]

Yeah I mostly PVE as it helps with overall economy with guaranteed gold... I PVP from time to time to see where I am at but when I do, casualties are usually very high resulting in low profits and just a bit of honor.

[Bea]

Up to 360, need 120 more for my 160 allies. Then the attack army has to catch up, just upgrading the siege workshop to L10 now...

Not being attacked much at all, and so far not been attacked by anyone with higher stats. That's bound to change, but so far the only impressive stats I've seen are allies from the forum.

[erik41141]

Well, i guess im not your typical player but i feel like "whale territory" is more like small fish territory. I havent really seen any major difference in my game style from lvl 5 to lvl 78 which is what i am currently at. Just to give you some figures i have 83,000 vaultable gold and have upgrading it every second i can, so i truly havent been playing as long as most of these "whales". As for the "whales" if you know your times for buildings (well the important ones) you dont really need any sort of defense, since if you cash your buildings when they are ready they become un-attackable until they have gold. I was reading the high priest post and wondering why people even go into defense for this reason. TBH most of my high-quality buildings are hidden and people havent really ever gotten them since the lure of silos is too immense for most players. I am full into hero attack, i only buy and upgrade machine units for attack, and my aim is to cut through these so called "impregnable defenses" these "whales" boast about. Keep building your high priests people but know theres a hungry shark out to eat all you "whales". Dont think im gonna be able to eat that guy who has max corruption towers, thats just insane how much he spent.

"Winter is coming...and a hungry shark needs to eat"

[Freekizh]

Erik, u r right in that if u collect ur buildings in time that is the best defense. It's when you try to have unvaulted gold for advanced development that the problem becomes clearer, becos unlike lower levels u r in a region of highly concentrated strong players. Also, when more whales reach full strength they will start honor farming and so screen more players much more regularly. I belleve whale is more like level 80 now.


SURVEY - can people please tell me whether they are upgrading HP (defending army) first or upgrading their attacking army first? Thank you.

[Arwin Stark]

I changed my playing style after about lvl 20 when I started to get hit often.
Back then it was keeping even stats, I then changed to IPH and defence units and hadnt really been attacked now im at lvl 70.
My game play has just been doing Quests pvp / pve / upgrades etc and putting spare gold into defence units. This has let me play the game with out to much interuption.

Quests - complete
Rare Quests - Shipwreak cove
PvP Quests - Round 96
Maps - 9 at lvl 5
Events - 3

So really been having a good time on the game .....

[War Eagle]

SURVEY - can people please tell me whether they are upgrading HP (defending army) first or upgrading their attacking army first? Thank you.

Attack first. Lvl 52 with 275 flaming catapults. I'm slowing down my play and building those up to 800 before I buy any high priests. Right now my Zeppelins are doing fine for defense. I'm sitting at 22k/23k A/D.

[Bea]

TBH most of my high-quality buildings are hidden and people havent really ever gotten them since the lure of silos is too immense for most players.

Hidden? How?

[asdfg12345]

Hidden? How?
is he admitting to bug abusing? lol

[Great_wall2]

Erik, u r right in that if u collect ur buildings in time that is the best defense. It's when you try to have unvaulted gold for advanced development that the problem becomes clearer, becos unlike lower levels u r in a region of highly concentrated strong players. Also, when more whales reach full strength they will start honor farming and so screen more players much more regularly. I belleve whale is more like level 80 now.

SURVEY - can people please tell me whether they are upgrading HP (defending army) first or upgrading their attacking army first? Thank you.

I'm doing both at the same time but spending more on defense ie:High priests. I was buying siege towers and HP at same rate but now I buy catapults due to the high casualty rates. My approach is that the higher the defense first, the more you dictate how the game is played. I can attack when and who I want but I cannot decide who attacks me. My HP defense helps to mitigate that risk. One of the keys to this strategy is to offset you HP purchases with the cheaper but higher attack stat units so that you do no bring the HPs into battle.

[P4TR1C14N]

Hidden? How?

Maybe a Tree?

@Freekizh: I'm going for def army first. As i'm for sure not a shark, i prefer to try to get eaten by the sharks.

[The_Red]

A minor threadjack:

I'm at the point where I need to invest in something similar to the HP but on the attack side - what are people having good luck with?


"SURVEY - can people please tell me whether they are upgrading HP (defending army) first or upgrading their attacking army first? Thank you."

In response to that - I believe getting defense is the first priority - stops people from manhandling you by attacking 20 times to fill out quests. The guy I hit daily has had his defense strength cut by 20% in the past week because he's the whipping boy of the group. I don't want to be on the business end of that. Thus, my defense is usually 50% more than attack.

[Bea]

Maybe a Tree?

Trees won't hide anything, decorations can't be seen. Anyway, the building level shows when you click on it.

[Dexter Morgan]

Lv 40 with 257 high priest, but the 335 at wyverns are my pride and joy. Although I have found their casualty rate is not really very low. More like very frequent

[Dr. Dengus]

With 335 of any unit, you're going to have a pretty high casualty rate. Does anyone have plists for KA? Would be able to tell you the exact consumption rate if so..

[Populouspapa]

With 335 of any unit, you're going to have a pretty high casualty rate. Does anyone have plists for KA? Would be able to tell you the exact consumption rate if so..

Think it was 0.006 something.

[Dexter Morgan]

So it's wiser to have say 100 each of different units that have them same stats? Never realized that was an aspect of this game.

[Populouspapa]

So it's wiser to have say 100 each of different units that have them same stats? Never realized that was an aspect of this game.

no but have a couple of crap units with casualty high/very high in your attack/defense to make sure those are consumed and not your valuable units

[Dewsy]

I've taken upgrading my defence first my priority. Currently on 614 HP, 28k/41k level 81. I think I'm going to go for 1000+ HP before I stop buying them. Then I plan on buying enough imps so my HP don't go into battle attacking which shouldn't take long at all, maybe a day or twos income, and then i will turn my concentration on upgrading my attacking army.

Can anyone offer any suggestions/comments/improvements on this plan?

[Timbathia]

I am committed now towards having a beast-only army. I bought a few other units early on, but since have only been investing in basilisks, gryphons and manticores. This means no High Priests for me, ever. This may be a bad plan, but it is my bad plan dammit.

That level 10 breeding den costs a whole heap of money and it might be a while before operation fit-out-my-entire-army-with-dragons comes into fruition. Need something to keep me interested I suppose.

[Ralooney]

I've taken upgrading my defence first my priority. Currently on 614 HP, 28k/41k level 81. I think I'm going to go for 1000+ HP before I stop buying them. Then I plan on buying enough imps so my HP don't go into battle attacking which shouldn't take long at all, maybe a day or twos income, and then i will turn my concentration on upgrading my attacking army.

Can anyone offer any suggestions/comments/improvements on this plan?

Unless you don't do any PVP at all I would recommend buying imps first or atleast in unison with buying high priests. I started doing the same thing you are right now and was losing 10 or more HP's a day since I PVP a bit. So I maxed out imps (didn't take long at all and was fairly cheap) and now when I go into battle I only lose imps and not any HP's so they're stacking at a pretty good rate now.

[Cabby]

Why are people going with zeppelins?

The paladin is the same cost .. Same defense, +2 attack, and is very low casualty.
Zeppelins I think are medium casualty rate.

To me.. Clear cut which you should use..

Free played only:
Lvl 80
2 manors
Attack:32k defense 31k
I'd : 136-470-167

[Great_wall2]

Why are people going with zeppelins?

The paladin is the same cost .. Same defense, +2 attack, and is very low casualty.
Zeppelins I think are medium casualty rate.

To me.. Clear cut which you should use..

Free played only:
Lvl 80
2 manors
Attack:32k defense 31k
I'd : 136-470-167

I think people use the Zeppelins because they will already have to upgrade seige workshop to get to the higher attack machines. Paladin requires level 5 upgrade on colosseum so perhaps people don't want to upgrade that far, especially if there are no better infantry units past the paladin than perhaps the knight but even then they are under powered vs machines and beasts. Also casualty rate isn't as much of a factor as you should be using those units for defense and not PVP.

HP update: 723 pimps now...

[War Eagle]

I think people use the Zeppelins because they will already have to upgrade seige workshop to get to the higher attack machines. Paladin requires level 5 upgrade on colosseum so perhaps people don't want to upgrade that far, especially if there are no better infantry units past the paladin than perhaps the knight but even then they are under powered vs machines and beasts. Also casualty rate isn't as much of a factor as you should be using those units for defense and not PVP.

Exactly. You can unlock Zeppelins long before Paladins.

[asdfg12345]

I think people use the Zeppelins because they will already have to upgrade seige workshop to get to the higher attack machines. Paladin requires level 5 upgrade on colosseum so perhaps people don't want to upgrade that far, especially if there are no better infantry units past the paladin than perhaps the knight but even then they are under powered vs machines and beasts. Also casualty rate isn't as much of a factor as you should be using those units for defense and not PVP.

HP update: 723 pimps now...


No, the main reason I think is because zeppelins have attack of 8 which can be covered by rams which got attack of 9. Since rams are the most money efficient attacking unit, this zep for defense and rams for offense combo works very well until you want to upgrade to high priest.

[whiterider]

What do you mean with "covered by the rams"?

I went for zepelins because I wanted the flaming catapults :)

[Hapl0]

Asd were refering to the unit "battering ram".

[Addyman]

Over 330 HP now, total defence now 141 per alliance member.

[Hapl0]

Wow, nice defense. 114,1 here

[Joe Brown1]

Over 550 HP - currently at 188 defense per alliance member

[Hapl0]

Ok Joe, you win.

[Joe Brown1]

I am sure quite a few top me as well.:cool:

[The_Red]

Meh - sitting @ 450. Built 2 manors over the past week so no upgrades on defense.

[BadNews]

This guy has 1167 High Priest, 500 Basilisk, 310 Hydra and over 1,883k extra gold.

However the weird thing is he got very low IPH, very low raids and low battles......

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[Hello Kitty]

This guy has 1167 High Priest, 500 Basilisk, 310 Hydra and over 1,883k extra gold.

However the weird thing is he got very low IPH, very low raids and low battles......



This player has a very high Enemies Killed stat, high level map quests pay out very well. It's also possible that he/she purchased gold with cash to buy these units.

[Hapl0]

I agreed with HK.
BadNews a lot of ur allies must be whales

[chiu]

or the dude hacks...

[Hapl0]

All is possible chiu.

[BadNews]

I agreed with HK.
BadNews a lot of ur allies must be whales

Not too many, only 7 allies over 100k attack.
As I known, 8 allies were in the top 50 of last event. :p

[The_Red]

slowly working my way up... 900 now.

[Great_wall2]

I've stalled out at 1170 as all my gold is going towards manor upgrades for the time being...

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

I've got 65 HPs. Working my way up. However, each additional one I add gives me 16 defense. So not going to run for another 200 of them, but just enough for now to get me over 40k def.

[BrodawgCanada]

I'm at 1000 my other 500 units are stronger so don't need to buy any more!!I buy the manticore (have 1000 as well)so when I go to battles I don't loose any high priests!!

[Gree player]

Just bought my 2000th

are u cheater?

[echus14]

are u cheater?

I think this question ranks together with the (in)famous 'Are you asleep?' lol.

[BooMan]

Am at 420, going for 500 and will then switch to collecting Hydra (when I finish the necessary upgrades!)...

[Everson25]

I have just 215 HP but I wont be buying them for a while as I will switch for stronger units.

[Njwmrb]

Just bought my 1000th

[Dewsy]

I've only got 534 HP at the moment, haven't been buying any units for the past few weeks, I have been concentrating on expensive IPH upgrades. Not sure what to do next though, I have 168 basilisks and don't know whether to keep buying them or spend the money getting my breeding den from 5-8 and then invest in hydras. Any suggestions?

[Njwmrb]

I've only got 534 HP at the moment, haven't been buying any units for the past few weeks, I have been concentrating on expensive IPH upgrades. Not sure what to do next though, I have 168 basilisks and don't know whether to keep buying them or spend the money getting my breeding den from 5-8 and then invest in hydras. Any suggestions?

If you think you can save the 700k for lvl 8 breeding den without getting attacked go for it.

[Buddha44]

I'm slowly building my HP - up to 160 now but when I see some of the pics of whales in the forum with so many gem and prize units, it seems that I will eventually be fodder - I guess I'll just have to enjoy it until then.

[asdfg12345]

Just finished buying 1.5k high priests and sold my farm by accident a minute afterward :(

Guess its time to work on the breeding den.

[emcee]

Lvl 36, 504 high priests. The balance to max units have better defense stats than HPs. Got wizard's spire to level 10 in anticipation for next boss event but may not buy any lich.

Time to get back to building economy in anticipation of breeding den upgrades.

[Nick-Clark1]

Currently at Lv.30, a few more Wizard Spire upgrades and it'll be time for 450 HPs and Lichs in anticipation for the next boss event at maximum allies. Equips are the real killer though, Mail Crushers/Hawkslayer Leather combo at $35,000 per unit? $15,750,000 is not realistic for me. Assuming these new unit stat changes are permanent then top-tier equips are looking far less appealing for their hefty price tag. Might even settle on Faceripper Claws / Outrider Leather for the time being.

[emcee]

Nick don't waste gold on more expensive equipment purchase. Unless you are a stickler for perfect stats then spend away. HP and lich will get you to decent stats without heavy spend. I somewhat regret buying 53 astral bows and 60 blizzard staffs at this early point not to mention other equips.
Gotta start saving early to afford those manor upgrades and then breeding den. Getting merchant caravans to lvl 10 did cost a pretty penny or two.

[Nick-Clark1]

Nick don't waste gold on more expensive equipment purchase. Unless you are a stickler for perfect stats then spend away. HP and lich will get you to decent stats without heavy spend. I somewhat regret buying 53 astral bows and 60 blizzard staffs at this early point not to mention other equips.
Gotta start saving early to afford those manor upgrades and then breeding den. Getting merchant caravans to lvl 10 did cost a pretty penny or two.

I'll probably settle on "mediocre" store bought equips whilst hunting loot on whatever the last map is at whatever level I may be at the time to keep my units fully equipped as it's good to keep the "Army Stats" nice and green in the profile page.
I'm sure that when BD10 becomes unlocked, an army full of Dragons will be enough to stomp any non Dragon user to the ground, regardless of equips purchased.

[deuce]

560 high priests ready to protect the kingdom as it begins to build up the Breeding Den.

[HaveFun88]

I'm at LVL 124 and have 967 High Priests. I bought another 30 yesterday but the defense stats wasn't updated??????

Is there a cap?????

[Cloud22]

I'm at LVL 124 and have 967 High Priests. I bought another 30 yesterday but the defense stats wasn't updated??????

Is there a cap?????The cap is 1500 but you must have max allies which is 500. Each Allie brings 3 units so you probably do not have the full 500 allies.

[albeezy]

Better jump on the BD10 train and take it to dragon town before its too late!

[HaveFun88]

The cap is 1500 but you must have max allies which is 500. Each Allie brings 3 units so you probably do not have the full 500 allies.

Thanks for reply. Yes, I have full 500 allies.

[HaveFun88]

Just purchased 2 units to test but still failed to update the defense stats :(

[Cloud22]

Just purchased 2 units to test but still failed to update the defense stats :(Hmm that is weird I m not sure what to tell you unless you have 500 units with stronger deffense than the high priest. You might need to send a ticket into support and tell them your problem. It might take a while but they should be able to fix it.

[Angel 2]

Hmm that is weird I m not sure what to tell you unless you have 500 units with stronger deffense than the high priest.

That was my thought as well - usually if I don't get a stat boost from the purchase of a unit, it is because it is not making it into my army...

[Dad]

That was my thought as well - usually if I don't get a stat boost from the purchase of a unit, it is because it is not making it into my army...

Try leaving KA and come back in, perhaps it didn't refresh. I have that issue (refreshing stats) in MW.

[HaveFun88]

Try leaving KA and come back in, perhaps it didn't refresh. I have that issue (refreshing stats) in MW.

I did that but still same problem

I wrote mails to support but to no avail no reply

I have 525 units of Hydra (A60/D58) and their defense stats updates are miserable - ONLY 7 Defense Stats Points

I guess being an active Free Player has all these disadvantages with no replies from support

[jonny0284]

Read your other post.

[jonny0284]

OMG. You have 500 allies. Therefore you can only bring 1500 units into battle.

You have 967 High Priests and 525 Hydras. Let's do the math. 1492 units right there. Do you have any indestructible units better than a Hydra? I'm gonna go to the tune of 8. Yeah?

You are at max. Stop buying more Priests. They aren't contributing anymore to your attack and defense. TO be able to change your defense score now you have 2 options.

1. Obtain better equipment for your army.
2. Obtain units that are better defense score than a High Priest. See also: (more) Hydras at +7 defense per each unit. And, yeah, that's insignificant but it's also +44 atk per unit which is much better. Or, get on the Dragon train.

Simple as that.

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Support doesn't hate Free Players by the way.

[King Gabriel388]

OMG. You have 500 allies. Therefore you can only bring 1500 units into battle.

You have 967 High Priests and 525 Hydras. Let's do the math. 1492 units right there. Do you have any indestructible units better than a Hydra? I'm gonna go to the tune of 8. Yeah?

You are at max. Stop buying more Priests. They aren't contributing anymore to your attack and defense. TO be able to change your defense score now you have 2 options.

1. Obtain better equipment for your army.
2. Obtain units that are better defense score than a High Priest. See also: (more) Hydras at +7 defense per each unit. And, yeah, that's insignificant but it's also +44 atk per unit which is much better. Or, get on the Dragon train.

Simple as that.

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Support doesn't hate Free Players by the way.

Jonny solved it after reading the hydra part. :) Well done, Jonny.

[HaveFun88]

OMG. You have 500 allies. Therefore you can only bring 1500 units into battle.

You have 967 High Priests and 525 Hydras. Let's do the math. 1492 units right there. Do you have any indestructible units better than a Hydra? I'm gonna go to the tune of 8. Yeah?

You are at max. Stop buying more Priests. They aren't contributing anymore to your attack and defense. TO be able to change your defense score now you have 2 options.

1. Obtain better equipment for your army.
2. Obtain units that are better defense score than a High Priest. See also: (more) Hydras at +7 defense per each unit. And, yeah, that's insignificant but it's also +44 atk per unit which is much better. Or, get on the Dragon train.

Simple as that.

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Support doesn't hate Free Players by the way.

Dear jonny0284 and King Gabriel388, Thank you so much for reply. Much appreciated. I will get on the Dragon train.