Palm Hotels - not

[Nudie]

I'm at level 164. Was planning to buy gold in the sale to get Palm Hotels when I hit level 165.
Then I was thinking (I sometimes do this), yeah, the Palm Hotels are neat and generate a whole lotta cast BUT what do I buy with all the cash?
- Reinvest the cash into my economy and generate still more cash? Nah! What's the point?
- Buy items to make my stats stronger? A quick trip to the store reveals that there is really almost nothing that can be bought with cash which is better than the respect, gold or event items.
- Buy explosives. This is perhaps the only reason why I would want more cash. Thing is, I hate having to run down to the store every so often just to buy the odd stick of dynamite or frag grenade. Tedious.
So what's the point of getting Palm Hotels other than for bragging rights?
So I'm keeping my RL cash, at least for now. LOL. :o

[Babytway]

i was thinking something similiar. i paid 20$ itunes card to get pirate taverns and another to get RC's and i paid for one gents club and tapjoy with other. but i just could pluck down 50$ for just the one palm hotel. so i gave up on them. just got casinos instead.

[mnju_03]

I built 2 last night. No questions asked. But that's me.

[Swingle007]

I picked them up the other day as well. They make so much money (imagine when they are leveled up a lot!) that im thinking about killing off some other money buildings to help upgrade them quickly, and also to create more space for defense or something else in the future. Heck, you could probably have a great economy on just 2 lvl 10 night clubs and 2 lvl 10 palm hotels alone. No need to have 200 little buildings all over the place really. Be nice and convenient to just synch up a few buildings that require collection every day and still make a ton of cash. I've already got the 120 mil saved for the casinos, just waiting to hit lvl 185 now. At that point I might just rock like 10 or 12 high level buildings that are seriously upgraded. Just decorate the crap out of all my other space for giggles.

[mnju_03]

I picked them up the other day as well. They make so much money (imagine when they are leveled up a lot!) that im thinking about killing off some other money buildings to help upgrade them quickly, and also to create more space for defense or something else in the future. Heck, you could probably have a great economy on just 2 lvl 10 night clubs and 2 lvl 10 palm hotels alone. No need to have 200 little buildings all over the place really. I've already got the 120 mil saved for the casinos already, just waiting to hit lvl 185. At that point I might just rock like 10 or 12 high level buildings that are seriously upgraded. Just decorate the crap out of all my other space for giggles.

This is a goal I keep in mind also... Good money buys weapons to defend yourself....for busy work basically. Because there's always someone stronger, and if you collect on time, it doesn't matter...

Also a nicely decorated hood is just fun.

[Swingle007]

Made a little edit to my post.....glad I'm not crazy and you saw some sense in what i said too mnju....lol

[Zendfrim]

See? No reason to make a great paying hood. This is wrong. I know people invest real money in their economy in this game, myself included, only to face a dead end. Like I said in another thread, there needs to be some new in game money items that are powerful but expensive. I proposed in the other thread some good defensively based monetary gear would fit the bill. Maybe 100A and 200D (ish) in all categories. I personally wouldn't even mind if they costed 500 mil to 1 billion per unit... I am almost to that kind of income anyway.

[mnju_03]

Made a little edit to my post.....glad I'm not crazy and you saw some sense in what i said too mnju....lol


I got you... :P



See? No reason to make a great paying hood. This is wrong. I know people invest real money in their economy in this game, myself included, only to face a dead end. Like I said in another thread, there needs to be some new in game money items that are powerful but expensive. I proposed in the other thread some good defensively based monetary gear would fit the bill. Maybe 100A and 200D (ish) in all categories. I personally wouldn't even mind if they costed 500 mil to 1 billion per unit... I am almost to that kind of income anyway.


That's totally awesome!

[Nudie]

Off topic. @Swingle, what's your avatar supposed to be? Looks like a snake eating Swifty. LOL

[Swingle007]

Off topic. @Swingle, what's your avatar supposed to be? Looks like a snake eating Swifty. LOL

It's a mustang cobra emblem with a fox tail. The '87-'93 mustangs were nicknamed the fox body. We own 3 mustangs currently (one is a SVT cobra and another is an '87), so it's a perfect avatar for me. ;-)

Looks like swiftys coming back out the wrong end by the way...lol

[mnju_03]

It's a mustang cobra emblem with a fox tail. The '87-'93 mustangs were nicknamed the fox body. We own 3 mustangs currently (one is a SVT cobra and another is an '87), so it's a perfect avatar for me. ;-)

Nice! Wish I had one. lol

[k0de]

It raises in interesting point with respect to the original design of the game. At first, I was of the opinion that unlocking such an expensive building so late in the game was, in hindsight, an error in judgement on the part of the developers. It should become obvious to any player that in-game cash is of little to no value well before they reach L165. By the time it unlocks, there are fewer compelling reasons to buy it than at any other stage so far. Thus, it could be argued that positioning it so late in the game would have a strong negative impact on the take-up rate. Contrast this with for example the Ice-Cream Shop, which generates income early in the game at a time where cash is of much greater value. Any HL player prepared to spend 500G on any one item will have done so well before reaching L165. That being the case, that player would be expected to invest that gold in weapons, as weapons are of much greater consequence at this (or any other) point in the game. In short, that 500G buys roughly a combined 350-400 A/D at a point where weapons providing any substantial impact have become scarce, or; a boost to ones economy which, while it may be significant, is still of extremely limited benefit.

That's a common sense appraisal from a players perspective- cash is worthless; if you're gonna spend gold, make it count. Though there was another method of reasoning which later occurred to me (though it's not without its flaws). It's much the same reason that it's tougher to be competitive at the higher levels- the later the point in the game, the more likely the players are to be gold buyers. Thus, there's quite a good chance that someone willing to invest that sort of coin (having already done so over the course of time spent playing) will remain active into the later part of the game. In addition to this, such players, by virtue of having the means to do so, could be thought of as being predisposed to making such purchases as they become available (unlike those at a lower level using Tapjoy earnings on a lone Chicken & Waffles). Basically, if you can afford to regularly buy Crates or weekly items, you'll get a PH or two, whether or not it's of any use.

So, the fact that most free players drop out before ever unlocking the PH really has no impact on the bottom line. Still, if it were me, I'd have designed it so that anything with revenue-generating potential (particularly anything with a top-end price tag) is available to the widest possible market. Who knows how many more units could have been sold if the product in question had been available at say, L100? Anyway, I guess there's no reason a new "premium" (Ka-ching!!) building couldn't be added in the future if this assessment were found to be accurate. Of course, that would involve having to add new buildings, some of which would probably have to be available using in-game cash (which is of only marginally less value to shareholders than it is to the average mid-to-high level player) and any time and effort expended on development and implementation of fun stuff for freeloaders is time and effort not spent working on something to fund the purchase of an ivory backscratcher, or finally filling that room to a depth which would facilitate diving...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fyE6N4JQt0

Anyway... new buildings would be cool. But I think that's a discussion for another topic.

[Behzat]

This thread is good and i told this many times.The problem is the weapons in the store are trash.Also they dont deserve the prices they had.5 million for 10 attack power?No Thank you....
They must strengthen the weapons in the store.

As a player i see 2 negative points in the game.

1- As you said there isnt any point to grow your economy.(After the last event Funzio it changed a little bit and i say good job Funzio about it-Most Earners event)at least this can be a reason to build better economy and hood but if this event be repeatable.Otherwise there wont be a reason to grow economy.

2- Since they removed M4A1s Pve is dead in this game.This is the other problem.

if Funzio fix these,this game will be perfect....

[Sasha54]

I picked them up the other day as well. They make so much money (imagine when they are leveled up a lot!) that im thinking about killing off some other money buildings to help upgrade them quickly, and also to create more space for defense or something else in the future. Heck, you could probably have a great economy on just 2 lvl 10 night clubs and 2 lvl 10 palm hotels alone. No need to have 200 little buildings all over the place really. Be nice and convenient to just synch up a few buildings that require collection every day and still make a ton of cash. I've already got the 120 mil saved for the casinos, just waiting to hit lvl 185 now. At that point I might just rock like 10 or 12 high level buildings that are seriously upgraded. Just decorate the crap out of all my other space for giggles.

I'm not close to where you - but I think my long term goal would be similar. I just want the really nice stuff left with enough defense to protect that and then DECORATE.......lol

[Sasha54]

It's a mustang cobra emblem with a fox tail. The '87-'93 mustangs were nicknamed the fox body. We own 3 mustangs currently (one is a SVT cobra and another is an '87), so it's a perfect avatar for me. ;-)

Looks like swiftys coming back out the wrong end by the way...lol

Very nice having the Cobra. I only have a little V6 '07 - but I love it anyway - especially now since I only drive it in summer.

[Swingle007]

Very nice having the Cobra. I only have a little V6 '07 - but I love it anyway - especially now since I only drive it in summer.

Nice! The other one I didn't mention is an '05 GT, so I'm very similar with your '07. Enjoy fellow stanger! ;-)

[xclusiv]

its true what is the purpose of spending gold on money buildings, is there any real benefit to having an economy over 1million per hour, me being someone that bought gold buildings i feel like i would of been better off with the free buildings and using gold on crates

the vehicles require an economy of a ridiculous amount to get many of them.

[Swingle007]

Just depends on what kind of player you want to be really.....a brawler with huge Attack stats, or a billionaire who makes tons of money and is above petty things like fighting...lol best bet to get full enjoyment out of the game is to find a way to be a little of both. Can't go wrong with gold buildings IMO.

[Dr Girlfriend]

Haha! No way will I be spending real money on Palms. The game money I would've spent on upgrading them will instead be spent upgrading my existing buildings and my Casinos of the future. I don't suspect my economy will suffer all that much as a result.

[Swingle007]

Wonder what they are worth when you sell them? Just curious...

[Max Power]

It's a mustang cobra emblem with a fox tail. The '87-'93 mustangs were nicknamed the fox body. We own 3 mustangs currently (one is a SVT cobra and another is an '87), so it's a perfect avatar for me. ;-)



I am old school, pre-SVT. I was actually at SEMA one year talking to OJ Colletti about SVT. That was the year they built an SN95 with a Boss 429 in it.

I have owned many Mustangs in the past, as well as other Fords including:

1966 Comet Cyclone GT w/390-C6.
1969 Cougar Eliminator w/same
1969 Mach 1 428CJ 4 speed car, and presently I have a 69 fastback with a 393 stoker and a 70 Grande cleveland car in Calypso Coral, one of less than 200.

Here is the 69:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Mackiesback/BOB_3854.jpg

Anyway, back on topic, I bought the Palm hotels, and want to get my econ to 2mil an hour, for the sole reason of buying Landmines....LOL. It's all the money is good for at this point.

[erik]

I can understand not getting them if $ is not your thing. But if you think you will eventually cave, get them now so you benefit early on!

[Swingle007]

I am old school, pre-SVT. I was actually at SEMA one year talking to OJ Colletti about SVT. That was the year they built an SN95 with a Boss 429 in it.

I have owned many Mustangs in the past, as well as other Fords including:

1966 Comet Cyclone GT w/390-C6.
1969 Cougar Eliminator w/same
1969 Mach 1 428CJ 4 speed car, and presently I have a 69 fastback with a 393 stoker and a 70 Grande cleveland car in Calypso Coral, one of less than 200.

Here is the 69:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Mackiesback/BOB_3854.jpg

Anyway, back on topic, I bought the Palm hotels, and want to get my econ to 2mil an hour, for the sole reason of buying Landmines....LOL. It's all the money is good for at this point.

My first car was an acapulco blue '69 fastback with a 351c in it Max. Man, I miss it. :-(

Sorry for the thread highjack.....anybody have any way of finding how much cash the palms are worth when sold?

[fuzzy]

Sorry for the thread highjack.....anybody have any way of finding how much cash the palms are worth when sold?

Should be 22 million if still at level 1

[Swingle007]

Should be 22 million if still at level 1

Sweet, thanks for the info fuzzy wuzzy was a bear! :-)

[Plux]

I'm building them and upgrading them both as per my plan. I've hit the Maximum Expansion so I now know how to design my hood, the end Maximum size is H80xW80 6400 squares H=10,40,30 : W=10,16,16,16,16,6 hope that helps everybody plan as I was surprised that was it with the $150m expansion.

[Amber_]

I can only speak for myself.. I need a great economy to be able to buy and replace the absolutely best explosives. I.e. 500 of the best attack explosives gives you an additional 15.000 in attack. And about the rest of the equipment section, yeah -respect and gold items are better than the cash items. But if you're not able to fill 2000 slots with gold items, you need a good economy to be able to at least buy the best cash items (along with r-items of course).

With that said, the high-end cash items SHOULD be much better. Peoples stats, in general, is getting higher and higher. Funzio needs to follow the games development and put in some better high-end cash equipment. I don't care if they're expensive and therefore takes a lot of economy work to get, they should at least be obtainable. I mean, gold weapons are always gonna be better anyway so it's not like it's going to ruin funzio they raised the stats a little for the very best cash items.

[Luciferianism]

They already have an expensive piece of equipment with better defence than the top respect item, the jet.