Do you replenish your loss during raiding or attacking?

[Ourpalace]

I do sometimes but it seems impossible as your gain is less than your loss. Is it ture?

[Automaine]

I do. If I have the cash.

[JohnnyR]

I do without fail.

Cannot raid without meatshields. Too many killed off means more valuable defensive units die. Only raid or attack you when you know you will make a profit after replenishing meatshields.

[Everson25]

I do every time I attack or have been attacked. I always make sure I'm going forward with my attack. In the past I made huge mistake of just attacking without worrying about that and nowadays I still pay the price for such mistake.

[Tate]

Always! As stated by all these smarter than I ppl, it just makes strategic sense. Also, if I lose higher value units, I take another look at their inv and adjust my army accordingly, that seems to help somewhat

[Ourpalace]

Most of times I end up with no money left. No matter how weak the rival is, I lost is greater than my gain. What kind of strategies you guys are using?

[manbeast]

i replenish meat shields constantly. only refill the rest of my inventory once every week or two.

i noticed i lose less valor units when i'm not constantly replenishing them.

[Q Raider]

Yep.
Do a set of raids on good earners to build up the cash.

Then attack for Valor and replace whatever gets lost along the way.

Think I am doing degradation missions around 150 odd so they usually cost 1.5 to 2 million to complete as I am now chasing people around 130 allies above mine.

Works though, the Valor is slowly building.

[Everson25]

Most of times I end up with no money left. No matter how weak the rival is, I lost is greater than my gain. What kind of strategies you guys are using? I don't know what level you are or how many allies you have but you remind me in many ways. I did so many mistakes that at the beginning was really hard to correct. First, slow down or stop levelling if you didn't do yet; second: drop allies if you feel it's necessary; third: because I'm not expert, you need to read the advice of those that are doing well in the game; and last: be patient with painfull process of rebuilding your army and base. It takes time! I'm still in the process and sometimes I feel frustrated that things dont go faster.

[Aidan]

If you're attacking/raiding for valors:
-only attack someone with much less units. Not more than 25% of your units brought to battle. This will give you low to zero casualties. Downside is this type of players most likely dont have anything worth raiding/attacking for other than the valors and low casualties.

If you're attacking/raiding for money/BP:
-you got to have lots and lots of meatshields and choose your target wisely. I used to have 800 warthogs and 100 flamethrowers out of 2000 units for my meatshields in order for me to protect my valors and high prices units. Only attack plyrs tht have more than 10 mil, only raids buildings tht give more than the cost of your meatshields.

[Jhoemel]

Replenish your stock if you have the money

[cheiz]

I always try to replenish immediately - it gives a good impression of the cost of attacking. For me that's also helpful for assessing if my economy can support my battles.

[mickymacirl]

I don't have enough valor to rep all my units, just lost two elite helis (again, i do not even take these to battle), so im down to 16 from 200 :P

[Arizona]

If I notice the same units dying of after a number of fights, I replace them, otherwise I usually leave it till the end of the day and go thro a lists of units lost, and replace them. Usually Submarines; cheap at 66k.

[Thunder Child]

I replenish right away as a matter of habit now.

However, since I have effectively run out of meaningful valor missions (the force degradation missions are now asking the same thing - hit rivals with more than 499 allies - at least 31 times, with the valor prize never shifting from 2000), I've turned back to raiding.

Pulled in well over 4m today without losing a single unit - no glitch; it's all about choosing targets VERY carefully.

[cheiz]

TC: I'd be very happy if you could shed some light on how to choose. I raid very little, simply because I tend to loose more than I gain - probably make the wrong picks, but don't know what to look for really. (except high payout targets of course)

[Arizona]

Pulled in well over 4m today without losing a single unit - no glitch; it's all about choosing targets VERY carefully.

4m is a very good day in my books, but I'd have expected some losses for that gain. What do you look for to come out smelling of roses? LOL
...and how many targets to get 4m?
cheers

[Thunder Child]

@ Cheiz / Saigon

Been raiding for the past week or so, often between classes or marking papers. I would say I've been bringing in about 4m each day without any loss. I know it's not a glitch, because I DID lose units (mostly SF, SH, and HM) but I changed my approach and now lose nothing.

I use the new ranking list, hitting ONLY privates or specialists, and then again ONLY if their def. stats are less than 10k. I go for US and Iran flags first, followed by Germany and China, and finally UK. I never hit Russia.I hit ore mines, oil refineries, oil rigs, and Nanos of any level - all a little rare, but enough about. I also hit military market and munitions stockpile above L6.Having done this for a few days, I know all the names and honey pots, so it's just a matter of time before I catch just about all of them. I tend to raid while North America is asleep, too!Hope that helps!

[Thunder Child]

Limited by stamina only. Just went back into the pool, and hit another base for 0.5m... No losses!

[Aidan]

Same strat here TC. The private and specialist usually have less than 1k units and less than 10k def. much easier to pick on targets for valor missions. I too have exhausted all the valor missions except the forcd degradation (i'm on FD 212)
Unlike you my main targets is farming for valors. Only raids if come across an OR,OM,nano etc

[Watash]

I always replace lost units immediately, keeps my army intact.

[Mad]

I am at a lower level, but I always, always replace my low cost Bradley Fighting Machine -- 7/7. It costs $35,000. I lose them quite regularly, but if I am going to lose a unit, that is the one I want to lose. So they are always replaced.

But if I lose a high cost unit other factors come into play. If I need money for upgrades I might hold back until later. Or if there are no events happening I am interested in, I will leave it until later. I have some costly upgrades I want to do, so money does become a factor.

[Aidan]

@Mad what country are you playing mad? IMO, Flamethrower (26k) & warthog (24k) are much better choice for meatshield. Cost less but with higher and same att stat.

[Thunder Child]

@Mad what country are you playing mad? IMO, Flamethrower (26k) & warthog (24k) are much better choice for meatshield. Cost less but with higher and same att stat.Both were my choice meat shield earlier on, too.

[Arizona]

@ Cheiz / Saigon

I pretty much do a lot of similar things. Target Iran, USA, Germany, China, and I do attack Russia if I can't find anything else. Germany is easiest for me, as being in UK, I can't imagine a lot of the world choosing Germany; I expect continental Europe would though, so I know when Europe sleeps I have a few hours to raid or attack. Not many Chinese flags to go after. USA; too many to choose from; lots of patriotism, but no brains; and yes, UK and Russia, you can't tell if they're just loyal or smart, so they're always last.
As far as base targets go, it's Oil rigs, Nanos', Munis' 7+, Refineries 2+, Ore mines 2+, even a Command Centre at 8+.
Best target in one go has been an Ore mine at L4 but I've seen a few at L5 but not ready yet; have their names listed so I check up now and then.
The only difference is I just choose any target, but most of the privates or specialists I see don't have much to go after. Might be different at your level, but at L72, I thought there'd be more people looking to build nanos and saving up.
I've only seen a handful of nano bases, all uncollectable. I guess it's just a case of adjusting strategy bit by bit.
Anyhow, thanks for the info TC.

[Aidan]

Both were my choice meat shield earlier on, too.

I no longer use them as i'm changing tactics. I'm going for 100% valor, loots and low/very low casualty army. Probably will be there by end of next month, hopefully

[Thunder Child]

Happy with the valor units I have but don't hold much faith in their survival. For that reason, all spare cash now being channeled into mine launchers and destroyers, to be followed by ballistic sub once Nanos up and feeding me cash, and finally aircraft carriers by the end of summer. Won't bother with any other sea units. At the same time, I'll add to my 100 stealth surveillance drones and then add a bunch of B52s, and that will be air done. Nothing interests me in the ground or infantry units.

[Aidan]

Whats the cas rates like for ballistic sub? Havent unlock tht yet...

[Ryan5100]

When raiding i use this stradegy and normally make profits. The min levels to make worthwhile IMO are 7 for munition stockpiles, 10 for military markets, 3 for ore mines, 4 for recycling plants, 2 for oil refineries, any oil rig, any nanotech. all of those are $100k or above for 3 attacks.

[Arizona]

Whats the cas rates like for ballistic sub? Havent unlock tht yet...
I'm disappointed in the BMS. Just my experience, and maybe it's the ratio of them I had to other units, but I found they sink a bit too often. I think I had 48m to spare whilst I was waiting for an upgrade, and didn't want it stolen, so I bought 20 BMS. That was about a week or two ago. Today I have 6 BMS left. They might be all right if you have enough other units but it didn't work out for me. Also I had very low allies at that time, so that might be a factor.
Hey just some info you might find useful.

[Tctiger]

I thought you would be going for bigger targets at your level and stats tc , I look for lower allies with low stats but I also look for bigger targets like level 4 ore mines, level 2 rigs , 10 munitions ect . My ideal targets are good payout raids on low stat players but I will raid someone just below my stats for the cash . If I want to go over 10m I **** every big target I can to get cash quickly unprotected . You must still lose odd big money unit to low stat players tc? Doesn't seem worth raiding low payouts as doesn't cover my losses seems to work for you though. I have 1 ballistic and carrier but you don't get much for the cash and I'm worried I will lose them !

[Arizona]

I have 1 ballistic and carrier but you don't get much for the cash and I'm worried I will lose them !
As an addendum to my previous post, I had 16 AC's. Haven't checked but I think it's 12 or 13 now. It really feels like a knife in the gut when one of those goes down, but once again, perhaps I had too low an ally count and not enough other units protecting them. I still will continue buying AC's every few days though. I think they're a great, if not the best investment for a free player.

[Mad]

@Mad what country are you playing mad? IMO, Flamethrower (26k) & warthog (24k) are much better choice for meatshield. Cost less but with higher and same att stat.

I am level 38. I have no idea how the Bradley became my meat shield.

But after checking it out, I know why I haven't got the flame thrower, I haven't leveled up my barracks enough. I have been focusing on leveling up my money buildings and composite factory and ignoring everything else at this point.

However, I just added a bunch of warthogs, I will see how that goes. How many warthogs should a guy have at this point?

By the way, thanks for the advice.