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Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 01:02 AM
McDoc is on the Elite Hit List for the Pirates :)

Come one - come all - it's time to put a stop to this jihberish and stand up to this nonsense. (ALL in Jest :) - kinda like my own personal PvP event - but I'm not quite sure what the prize is)


I'll use this thread to keep you posted on the results of my raiders and if you want to participate - I can list targets here for the Forumites to "play along" ;)

Let me know if you would like to become an "Avenger". I got Dibbs on Capt America - oh wait - I'm already Superman - maybe its time for the Avengers and the Justice Leage to join forces :)

War Priest
06-02-2012, 01:04 AM
What did you do?

Copenhagen
06-02-2012, 01:12 AM
Were you able to confirm that there was a list and that you were on it?

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 01:18 AM
What did you do?

Not really sure what's up to be honest. I have come to highly respect several of the "known" Pirates - and even though I was outspoken about the bullying people under 500 - I actually admire the other reasons the pirates choose to dish a their spankings - enough that I've even dropped a couple of hints that I'd be honored to join the cause.

Funny thing is I've actually had some very friendly conversations with several players in the association. I honestly don't want to see a "battle" with the Pirates - but find it humorous that I have somehow earned such high a honor.

In the end - it is a War Game - so all is fair :)



Were you able to confirm that there was a list and that you were on it?

I got several successful attacks from "General Insane" today - every else failed. Several PM's today to tell me folks have seen my name on the Walls of Pirates as a valuable target. More humored and honored than concerned really :)

siL
06-02-2012, 01:33 AM
I think they're just jealous of you being 7 out of 7 in the events McDoc...lololol
Bet even the pirates have difficulties in getting a perfect record like that...
Good luck to you tho!!
One thing I wonder with this pirate thing is are all of their leader also put the same attitude toward "the list" such as speed ump etc, or are there only their members which "seek preys to toy with" that actually does this, and then using the name pirates to legitimate their acts or to frighten other players?

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 02:08 AM
One thing I wonder with this pirate thing is are all of their leader also put the same attitude toward "the list" such as speed ump etc, or are there only their members which "seek preys to toy with" that actually does this, and then using the name pirates to legitimate their acts or to frighten other players?One thing for sure is that I'm not "Frightened" - and have actually recently Allied with some who appear to be high up in the Chain of Command per posts on their wall seeking orders. Been researching some of those who have hit me today - and those who have requested Allie status - Pirates all around :?

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 02:11 AM
Ask speed ump if its true, maybe lower ranking pirates are the one behind this

CounterSniper
06-02-2012, 02:41 AM
Or maybe they allied with you to make it easier to keep track of you.

Common practice in CC.

I agree that a communique w/ Speed ump is in order to get clarification on their intentions.

ckos
06-02-2012, 03:55 AM
Hi Mcdoc,
I'm the one who posted the statement on my thread. The "Mody ****" of all whales (that I've seen) attacked me awhile back, and scrolling through his comment board, I realized he was a pirate. This quote was was right from his own mouth (or keyboard):

~~~~~~~~~PLATINUM ELITE CUSTOMERS~~~~~~~~~>
The following LUCKY players are the recipients of unlimited service calls by all*
pirates.*
Please institute service to our VIP (VILE IGNORANT PERPETRATORS) who*
hold PLATINUM ELITE STATUS immediately.*
These LUCKY VIPS deserve our best.*
So, please ensure these VIPS get EVERYTHING they've got coming.*
Feel free to leave your business card after each service opportunity.*
If the VIP enjoys your visit, make sure he informs your chain of command.*
Happy hunting, err, servicing.*
<~~~~~~~~~PLATINUM ELITE CUSTOMERS~~~~~~~~~>

McDoc (self proclaimed pseudo-intellectual of Funzio's online forum, disdain for our methods, seditious acts against our alliance)
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There were many other names on this list, with some sounding very deserving of the Pirates attention.

Good luck, and for the record, I'm a big fan of your posts!

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Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 04:38 AM
Mcdoc i asked some pirates i know if you really are in their hit list

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 05:02 AM
They said that you are in thier hitlist man, talk to speed ump about it man

hound
06-02-2012, 05:27 AM
I call dibs being the "Hulk"!
McDoc- send me a PM with a list. You know I'm all for hunting down pirates!!

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 05:46 AM
Where can you find a list of pirates to attack?

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 06:09 AM
Hi Mcdoc,
I'm the one who posted the statement on my thread. The "Mody ****" of all whales (that I've seen) attacked me awhile back, and scrolling through his comment board, I realized he was a pirate. This quote was was right from his own mouth (or keyboard):

~~~~~~~~~PLATINUM ELITE CUSTOMERS~~~~~~~~~>
The following LUCKY players are the recipients of unlimited service calls by all*
pirates.*
Please institute service to our VIP (VILE IGNORANT PERPETRATORS) who*
hold PLATINUM ELITE STATUS immediately.*
These LUCKY VIPS deserve our best.*
So, please ensure these VIPS get EVERYTHING they've got coming.*
Feel free to leave your business card after each service opportunity.*
If the VIP enjoys your visit, make sure he informs your chain of command.*
Happy hunting, err, servicing.*
<~~~~~~~~~PLATINUM ELITE CUSTOMERS~~~~~~~~~>

McDoc (self proclaimed pseudo-intellectual of Funzio's online forum, disdain for our methods, seditious acts against our alliance)
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There were many other names on this list, with some sounding very deserving of the Pirates attention.

Good luck, and for the record, I'm a big fan of your posts!

Moby **** is an interesting term man, you watch one piece?

JackRakan93
06-02-2012, 06:30 AM
McDoc (self proclaimed pseudo-intellectual of Funzio's online forum, disdain for our methods, seditious acts against our alliance)



But who would proclaim themselves a pseudo-intellectual?

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 06:35 AM
Do you want the list here or in a separate thread?

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 06:36 AM
Do you want the list here or in a separate thread?

Pm if possible.

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 06:39 AM
Sounds like your fishin to see if your name is on it.......maybe not but, I will whip it up and see.

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 06:39 AM
I'm personally not a fan of Speed Ump, he uses the term "war" far too personally in a game like he knows something about it in real life...

And then You got the Pirates I dont know what to think of them but their tactics are those of communist, force you into doing something for their well being..

I guess what I'm trying to say is ummm f the Pirates!!!! Bunch of sissies

So you're rich and have more money than me. Good for you!!! At the end of the night when I go to sleep I know you're not on my head... Oh and BTW I know war....

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 07:05 AM
Support Mcdoc! Stop cyber bullying!

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:07 AM
Now I see what is happening! I am not a pirate ( not qualified to be although I would like to be when I grow up). I bought an eye patch and been practicing! :)

You are target from forum discussions! better not continue this thread and negotiate. Pirates are good friends and they stand to restore order and have some fun in the game collectively which is noble. I attack and raid not so few individually and they do it on purpose collectively which makes them a level higher in terms of discipline and dedication.

I personally believe it has been a misunderstanding but I think if there is a confrontation I will stand with the pirates on this as I believe without loosing face and ground you still could negotiate!

In my opinion you are a good forum member. I think forum opinions should be immune unless sides taken and enmities are shown. Communicate, negotiate, communicate, resistance is futile as they neither have base nor perishable army to confront. Ideologically they can not be beaten either as they believe they are on just side. Economically with golden armies they have proven to be superior so there is no plausible victory in any aspect.

In order to win a battle you need the ideology to be on your side as well and your only ideology could be they are bullying! I promise you they will come with a reasoning that they are not and then there is no ground to form anti-pirate campaign.

Anyway forming alliance on non-gold army members is like taking sheep to slaughter house! Best victory is to see the outcome from beginning and to practice the art of war!

I hope this matter gets resolved!

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 07:14 AM
So wait let me get this straight you're choking on their nuts too? See I liked you until that post...

What does forum content have to do with who gets put on a hitlist in the game? Whatever we say here is our opinions and strategies. So what because we play the game a different way we get put on a hitlist? Get the foh that's communism do you guys not see this?

Alright you know what I'm out I'm going to the gym and sparr with my trainer because you people piss me off I'll be back in a couple of hours.

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 07:18 AM
Now I see what is happening! I am not a pirate ( not qualified to be although I would like to be when I grow up). I bought an eye patch and been practicing! :)

You are target from forum discussions! better not continue this thread and negotiate. Pirates are good friends and they stand to restore order and have some fun in the game collectively which is noble.No its not. It is just a bunch of idiots who have got so accustomed in life that money = I am right I attack and raid not so few individually and they do it on purpose collectively which makes them a level higher in terms of discipline and dedication. Or just a whole lot sadder than the rest of us

I personally believe it has been a misunderstanding but I think if there is a confrontation I will stand with the pirates on this as I believe without loosing face and ground you still could negotiate!

In my opinion you are a good forum member. I am sure that he will sleep easy at night knowing he has your approval I think forum opinions should be immune unless sides taken and enmities are shown. Communicate, negotiate, communicate, resistance is futile as they neither have base nor perishable army to confront. Ideologically they can not be beaten either as they believe they are on just side.Or as some might put this Jihad Economically with golden armies they have proven to be superior so there is no plausible victory in any aspect. can you not be raided if you have a 2000 gold army?

In order to win a battle you need the ideology to be on your side as well and your only ideology could be they are bullying! I promise you they will come with a reasoning that they are not Kim jong il, Pol Pot, Sadam, Hitler, Mugabe all thought like this tooand then there is no ground to form anti-pirate campaign.

Anyway forming alliance on non-gold army members is like taking sheep to slaughter house! Well it will just have to be formed some other way then won't it?Best victory is to see the outcome from beginning and to practice the art of war!

I hope this matter gets resolved!To the satisfaction of the pirates

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 07:20 AM
More and more this is turning into cyber bullying. Let's start calling it for what it is. To specifically target an individual online for their actions and in a malicious and concerted effort do act against an individual is cyber bullying. Report it to Funzio and if they don't act report to Gree and then the police.

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:22 AM
On 499 allies numbers I think they did the right thing. Every alliance needs targets in long run and I am glad they decided to have good reasons to have the alliance. 499 was anoying and I personally was targeting anyone 498 and below to stop it.

It is very simple, there are rules of engagement in this game! Some were exploiting on usual Funzio lack of judgement and ruining the flow of the game and it was dealt with.
Look at it from this side a full gold army pirate does not need the valor so this is a just cause to rally alliance against and beside having fun correct a flaw in the system.
As long as it is kept that way it is a just alliance and I prefer an alliance than 20 non allied gold armies running around with ultimate power in this game. Till now three alliances has been formed and the just ones found themselves allied and the rest disappeared! One needs to follow the history of it from October last year to understand the mechanics of the pirates and avoid futile attempts.

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 07:25 AM
The "just" ones? Someone is lobbying for membership. There is nothing just in their actions. Just children throwing temper tantrums!

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 07:27 AM
On 499 allies numbers I think they did the right thing. Every alliance needs targets in long run and I am glad they decided to have good reasons to have the alliance. 499 was anoying and I personally was targeting anyone 498 and below to stop it.

It is very simple, there are rules of engagement in this game! Some were exploiting on usual Funzio lack of judgement and ruining the flow of the game and it was dealt with.
Look at it from this side a full gold army pirate does not need the valor so this is a just cause to rally alliance against and beside having fun correct a flaw in the system.
As long as it is kept that way it is a just alliance and I prefer an alliance than 20 non allied gold armies running around with ultimate power in this game. Till now three alliances has been formed and the just ones found themselves allied and the rest disappeared! One needs to follow the history of it from October last year to understand the mechanics of the pirates and avoid futile attempts.

Hello, can you tell us what happened on october last year?

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:27 AM
I deleted it, anyway if you have something to say pirate semi... or whatever do it in non Fox news style so we can use and benefit from your opinion. It is much appreciated.

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:30 AM
Hello, can you tell us what happened on october last year?

Better speed ump describe the history.

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 07:31 AM
You can highlight red on any quote like that. Anyway let's keep it civilized and not attemp Fox news turning of the facts! Read the paragraph without bias and see if it helps. If not well I tried.

I think all pirates are the most pitiful individuals on the planet. I also think that Sia is so blinded by the dream of an invitation that he feels he has to come on here as some form of peacemaker.

Oh and Sia if you can't read that without bias then at least I tried.

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 07:31 AM
I see, even so can you tell us the gist of it? im curious

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 07:33 AM
We are civilized here we don't target and attack people for their beliefs. I'd they act we will too. I know for certain that members live in the jurisdiction as I do, If I have to escalate then I will. A trip trip to a police station is a good humbling experience some "just" people need.

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 07:38 AM
I see, even so can you tell us the gist of it? im curious


Okguys this is stephen, one of those pirates, si I'm ready for your questions. So many things hard to respond to everything I read. First to the if this was the real world it would be illegal. Attacking another person, and stealing their money would be illegal. This is a game and it's part of the game. Everyone here has done it. Many guys dropped ally's to hide below the500 level where you can't be seen by higher ones. Also some did it to avoid the valor goals. I have a word for that but I'll keep it to myself here. I have no intrest whatsoever in those goals and neither do most, though not all of the pirates. It's not fair for those that do to be able to see and attack up, but not the reverse. I have heard that they are going to fix it anyway, so you might as well go back up. Most of the guys I've seen down there don't e en have enough high value money buildings for me to visit. I only attack when someone attacks another pirate, makes racist, or vulgar comments, or on purpose tries to taunt us. I raid guys for higher value money buildings if you don't collect them, I will. Once you go back above 500 I ignore you and so do most of the others. How many here were really attacked by the pirates before this became an issue? So it will not be an issue if you go back up. Its the hiding we have an issue with, not you personally. And yes you can make the choice. The idea is would you rather have me on you constantly, or random hits up above. I know which sounds better to me. Come join and be part of the whole group. I don't know about anyone else but I joined a war game to war. Why are we so strong, well because we can be, because it's a feather in our cap like many here who post about personal milestones, there are guys out there with our strength we fight and have forced us to go where we need to go. Obviously there have been a lot of problems with the rivals lists and we try to work around that with the tools we have until they can be fixed. If you are camping and hiding, i just wonder why you even joined a war game, just my opinion. There are games avaible for just building things, but I enjoy the war part. Let me k ow your questions on this subject and I will try to answer them.

This is where it all started.

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 07:38 AM
I deleted it, anyway if you have something to say pirate semi... or whatever do it in non Fox news style so we can use and benefit from your opinion. It is much appreciated.

Here is a non Fox news style for you..

This is Dayron reporting live from Funzio forums and I only have one thing to say F you and f the pirates. Good day

Clear enough? Stop choking on their nuts and grow a pair yourself.

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:55 AM
To the satisfaction of the pirates

Pirate smirates, this is a WAR game if you have noticed! Attacking, raiding, ... Is a part of it! It is not bad to attack! What do you want from this game? Have you thought why you are playing it? I tell my pirate friends I never get annoyed if someone raids or attacks me as a part of the game! Everyone should think so! Build, upgrade, raid, attack and be raided and attacked. If you had too much ask for alliance or stop to attacks and negotiate, very simple, very plain. No need to be rude and illogical about it or take it personal. It is all apart of the game! Just like real life.

McDoc a 1971 born mature person doesn't need my approval. He understands I am voicing my opinion and trying to help. I send alliance request to help him and if I could not I drop it after I voiced my concern. Simple as that.

On your jihadi comment, even NATO thinks they are just you are right about that. At the end it is the acts that show it.

About your comment, can you be raided if you have 2000 gold army. Of course if you have a base that is raid able and an army that someone can penetrate. Most pirates do not have a raid able base. It's a doctorine of GI that says if you don't have a base there is nothing to keep you back. The other power house Stephen has 300k A/D and a base but you can not penetrate. Think about it if your existence in the game requires gold why do you need a money making base? I do it because I like to see a progress and it is like chewing gum for me! :)

On your Kim Jung whatever comment, well dictators don't have good reasons and If they have on that particular case they are no more dictating! Isn't it? By the way we in west never hear what Kim Jung ill or his son had to say? Do you ever hear any voice other than what Murdoch corporation wants you to hear?

On you other way comment, yes. You can not have military campaign to resolve it. You need to go to reasoning. If you win the reasoning you automatically win pirates support as well and matter will be resolved.

If I were Funzio I would use pirates as a enforcing tool and build minor alliances momentarily for fun as well and then dissolve those to keep the flow of the game going. I would have this going on on entire lifetime of the game which I fear is no more than the next 4 months maximum. I hope I am wrong on this though I will loose all I have invested. What I want to say is Funzio would not consider pirates act as bullying and will reason like I do. Therefore negotiate, negotiate, negotiate. Be proactive and have fun doing that.

Sia
06-02-2012, 07:59 AM
Here is a non Fox news style for you..

This is Dayron reporting live from Funzio forums and I only have one thing to say F you and f the pirates. Good day

Clear enough? Stop choking on their nuts and grow a pair yourself.

You did fox news style anyways! :) funny how some think with their nuts instead of brain! Things feel very much bigger when you close your eyes. Same happens to some about their nuts! It is an illusion!

I gave you reasoning. You give insult! Who is more right?

Sia
06-02-2012, 08:13 AM
This is where it all started.

Pirate semi., I agree with the reasoning. I don't see bullying here. If you decompose the quote and tell us where is wrong I would appreciate and we can have a good conversation about it that many may benefit.

To others like seqWin, I personally don't mind insults at the end to those who insult I could say after such act you close your chance to give an opinion that matters. At the end we don't really matter, we are in virtual world those insulting show theur immaturity and reasoning with them is not necessary and useful. I prefer to keep contact than to loose by insulting.

pirates smirates
06-02-2012, 08:15 AM
Sia,

Thank you for your reply.

I don't care if I lose 100 units in 20 attacks or 0 Its a game.
I don't care if you and your pirates come to my base all day every day and hammer me (in fact the more you can concentrate on me and the less on people who might get upset about the pirates approach the better)
A game should involve skill and planning, taking the time to see what the best way to move forward is. Can I beat the player above me if I do this? Will me changing what I upgrade next be better for me? etc etc.

I think of the pirates as people who buy a computer game and then find out what the god mode glitch is and then seem to think that they are better than everyone else because of this.

Why would anyone play a game where the only pleasure that you can get from it is the manipulation of others into doing what you want? Or do they get pleasure thinking about just how upset they can get some of the younger players that they will be attacking?

The only pleasure that I have from all this is that hopefully the game will eventually fold. That some of the pirates will fall on hard times and then when they look at their nice collection of computer images they have paid over $50,000 dolars for that the realisation that they are all just ***ts will finally kick in.

Off for now got a plane to fly.

Andrew578559816
06-02-2012, 08:17 AM
I don't understand why people get so upset about being attacked its the name of the game it's also what war is all aboutI have attacked my share of people and being attacked back by pirates and many others big deal if I didn't like it I wouldn't play

Sia
06-02-2012, 08:28 AM
Once again, I am not a pirate. I can not follow disciplined and like to be free but I think I understand what is going on. Also I am not as powerful as it needs to be 80k is not much. I just think we need to think about it and like to express what I think and this forum is a part of my fun.

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 08:35 AM
Sia..my nusts are shatter proof buddy..battle tested..I've been shot at..GOT RIBBONS AND MEDALS TO SHOW FOR IT..been BLOWN UP!!Had a scuffle or two with Jihadis...so yeah I'm battle tested girly, I wasn't born rich or have rich parents who pay massive amounts of cash towards a game..

Here's a "brainy" question for you since you make the assumption I'm just a testosterone meat head, have you ever lived under communist oppression? I have. Do you know the tactics used by communist or even know Russian communist ideologies? Most of the tactics used by the Pirates are very much heading that way..

And I'll say it a second time...F you...

It is a game and some fail to see the fact that we're not arguing nor getting mad at the attacks, raids or everything Game related, what we do have a problem with is somebody being targeted by 40, 50 100 individuals for voicing his opinion on a community which is mainly intended to share the strategies..nobody ever said they all have to be the same! Oh wait Pirates did.. F THEM!

Nobody is getting mad for being attacked, raided or farmed here but do NOT! think you can tell us how many allies or what level we need to be at because that is bullying, communism whatever you want to call it...

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 08:40 AM
I don't understand why people get so upset about being attacked its the name of the game it's also what war is all aboutI have attacked my share of people and being attacked back by pirates and many others big deal if I didn't like it I wouldn't play

Fine but they don't fight they go get someone else to do it for them. There are only a handful with major stats and they are the ones everyone goes to to inflict justice. If the majority would man up and take their lumps it would be different.

They are self imposed police and no one has asked or paid them to do it. I could care less, I just don't think they should try to change the game to their own personal agenda.

Today one of the pirates was crying because someone was farming their base and so, in typical pirate fashion, he posted for everyone to go get that guy. That's the opposite of what your saying. The "mommy, jonny is picking on me," mentality is so juvenile, for the majority of the pirates to be adults. Either be CONSISTENT with what you believe or SSSHHHH.

Why should one group have such an influence on a game for everyone?

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 08:42 AM
Once again, I am not a pirate. I can not follow disciplined and like to be free but I think I understand what is going on. Also I am not as powerful as it needs to be 80k is not much. I just think we need to think about it and like to express what I think and this forum is a part of my fun.

Their not all 80K....

manbeast
06-02-2012, 08:43 AM
mcdoc- i dont believe speed ump put you on the list. he said "i will never attack someone for what they say on the forum"

bilbo baggins
06-02-2012, 08:45 AM
I don't understand why people get so upset about being attacked its the name of the game it's also what war is all aboutI have attacked my share of people and being attacked back by pirates and many others big deal if I didn't like it I wouldn't play

I agree. I love being attacked and then attacking back. It makes the game a great laugh. All of us must have had the experience of constantly hitting a weaker player only to find that they have changed and can now beat you. Or the player that attacks you all the time, the thought of the look on their face when you have adapted your strategy and they see their first lose screen.

The only thing that I can see differently here is that with the pirates it's not a battle you do it their way or they ruin your game.

"you have two choices. Well one really but if we put it like that it won't sound like a democracy anymore"

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 08:47 AM
mcdoc- i dont believe speed ump put you on the list. he said "i will never attack someone for what they say on the forum"

He is on the list for sure!!!!

Bronson
06-02-2012, 08:47 AM
I have read through the previous pirates thread and I have just taken my time to read through this one.
Now I can see the philosophical nature from both sides of the argument and what both would like to happen about the reasonability in a modern virtual world. But there is one thing that does puzzle me and will keep me pondering for the next few hours and that is, what dafuk is a Dayron?

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 08:48 AM
I have read through the previous pirates thread and I have just taken my time to read through this one.
Now I can see the philosophical nature from both sides of the argument and what both would like to happen about the reasonability in a modern virtual world. But there is one thing that does puzzle me and will keep me pondering for the next few hours and that is, what dafuk is a Dayron?

lolololololololol I've missed you man, you're not around anymore..you should come over to the " cooler side" ( The other forum) that's where we are all drama and Mermaid free...

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 08:53 AM
I have read through the previous pirates thread and I have just taken my time to read through this one.
Now I can see the philosophical nature from both sides of the argument and what both would like to happen about the reasonability in a modern virtual world. But there is one thing that does puzzle me and will keep me pondering for the next few hours and that is, what dafuk is a Dayron?

Bawhahahaha........ Bawhahahahah..... Side cramp.

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 08:59 AM
Just woke up guys - thanks for the comments. ..

Stephan / Speed post on my MW wall that I am targeted for my comments here on the Forum. I suppose free thinking and intellegent conversation somehow threatens certain people. I'm not going to lump ALL pirates together as villains since some of the guys, including Speed, I have come to respect and admire for their conquering of the game.

I have strong stats and broad shoulders - so I can handle any attacks that come my way - after all it IS a War Game. . . However, now that I understand why I have been targeted. And since it involves activities here on this. forum among my "peeps" - I will gladly post and expose the ones who choose to come after me because they have been intellectually intimidated.

Some of these guys have über stats and Golden Armies - so sure - its easy to be a Big Bad Bully when you're the Biggest Kid on the Block - which in my book is the CORE definition of a Coward - someone who only picks on people smaller than them.

So the "tactic" of begging, groveling, trying to make nice with "terrorist' goes against my Proud Patritoic Nature - and I will not Cower down to Cowards. I do appreciate those who share my view and take this Attack on People who Post in the forums as a just cause and an excuse to take this War Game up a notch with some Friendly Rivalry. After all - what's a War without a Real Enemy? The Rivals list is one thing - a faceless, random, watered down, sanitary enemy - BUT - an ALL OUT "Hatfield & McCoy" Style Fued may actually add a whole new & personal Dynamic of WAR to this Game beyond any event Funzio can put together to get us to attack other players ;)

Anyway, just got a call from the Hospital where my wife works - Appearantly she fell and broke her leg - so great - I'm going to be AFK (away from Keyoard) right when someone decides their brain hurts from reading big words :/

Bronson
06-02-2012, 08:59 AM
Now that Forumites, is what you call a joke! Also if we are ganging up Avengers style can I be Thor just to pi$$ TC off???

Seqs I have been over to the "other side" but I think it would be better if instead of copying over here's layout they should just run one big thread and when you go over there you just jump on and off it like a train - like the WWY thread.

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 09:14 AM
BTW - I haven't "self-proclaimed" anything. I've just been super helpful to anyone in need and thought that I had genuinely earned the respect of my peers. I'm actually about as humble as they come - but I do have my Patriotic Pride to do what's right and Stand Up for Justice :)

-->FISH<--
06-02-2012, 09:29 AM
BTW - I haven't "self-proclaimed" anything. I've just been super helpful to anyone in need and thought that I had genuinely earned the respect of my peers. I'm actually about as humble as they come - but I do have my Patriotic Pride to do what's right and Stand Up for Justice :)

For what its worth I think it is wrong for their mob mentality and I can't offer much but, i'm all for, "Patriotic Pride to do what's right and Stand Up for Justice."

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 09:32 AM
BTW - I haven't "self-proclaimed" anything. I've just been super helpful to anyone in need and thought that I had genuinely earned the respect of my peers. I'm actually about as humble as they come - but I do have my Patriotic Pride to do what's right and Stand Up for Justice :)

I'm with you here a 100%..I want to slap these chicken tender eating kids.

Sia
06-02-2012, 09:42 AM
Sia..my nusts are shatter proof buddy..battle tested..I've been shot at..GOT RIBBONS AND MEDALS TO SHOW FOR IT..been BLOWN UP!!Had a scuffle or two with Jihadis...so yeah I'm battle tested girly, I wasn't born rich or have rich parents who pay massive amounts of cash towards a game..

Here's a "brainy" question for you since you make the assumption I'm just a testosterone meat head, have you ever lived under communist oppression? I have. Do you know the tactics used by communist or even know Russian communist ideologies? Most of the tactics used by the Pirates are very much heading that way..

And I'll say it a second time...F you...

It is a game and some fail to see the fact that we're not arguing nor getting mad at the attacks, raids or everything Game related, what we do have a problem with is somebody being targeted by 40, 50 100 individuals for voicing his opinion on a community which is mainly intended to share the strategies..nobody ever said they all have to be the same! Oh wait Pirates did.. F THEM!

Nobody is getting mad for being attacked, raided or farmed here but do NOT! think you can tell us how many allies or what level we need to be at because that is bullying, communism whatever you want to call it...

Again you are showing madness :) it is either the influence of the circumstances you lived or the influence of the virtual bravery this F word gives to so called neutrilized westerners. To answer you yes I have been raised reading materialistic dialectic, Marx theories and under such influence. I have international song memorized and had to sing it in meetings ...Worst I lived in a theocratic regime and was tortured under the fanatics and Islamists as well so i did experience both dark fanatics. I believe in god and open nsource religion anyways contrary to what i was raised. Let me tell you communism is not a bad idea as west proclaims. It is theoretically ultimate human dignity but it is not possible to implement it. Gradually the cultures move towards it more in Europe than north America as they grow intellectually more advanced and willing to self sacrifice for better good.

I answered the first part, about the 2nd part. Alliances is a nature of the power game in this game and a consequence of the rules of the game. You can not say why their exist and you can not confront them with force. Only reasoning prevails. NATO is a product of the so called free world but same acquisitions is valid against it.

You and McDoc have good reasoning that if this is due to forum opinion then it is not valid and as I mentioned before I support that.

At the end I end this with your favorite greetings! F... You too as it seems you enjoy it this way :) many many F's to you and your .... My friend :) enjoy..

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 09:51 AM
At the end I end this with your favorite greetings! F... You too as it seems you enjoy it this way :) many many F's to you and your .... My friend :) enjoy..

I gotta admit this is funny lol, not funny as in sarcastic funny but funny as in bwahahaha funny...this just made me respect you a bit more...

We all have different opinions and that's that..bring on whatever happens next..I'm ready for it..As a matter of fact..I have been PREPARING for it.

JMC
06-02-2012, 09:52 AM
If i can recall, you called them cowards and a series of other names throughout some of the threads relating to them, when most of the forum members knew nothing about them.

I highly doubt they're attacking you because you try to be helpful. You disrespected them a few times, you can't deny that, and so that is why they are hitting you.

Many others said similar things, but they are lower level and out of reach. Many people were quick to talk $hit about them before they even knew anything about them. It makes sense that a group wouldn't be very happy when someone is making fun of them. Can expect some other people on this forum to also be targets if they become visible.

Sia
06-02-2012, 09:56 AM
SeqWin are you by any chance from former USSR? If so, if you had been shattered by Jihadi's defending their motherland like northern alliance in Afghanistan during USSR raid in 1980 which I fully remember. I fully support their resistance to Russian occupiers At the time. If it was me in Afghanistan I would try to shatter more of those occupying bastards!

They are one reason Afganistan was terrorized by brutal Wahhabi like Talibans and then under Americn occupation. Unfortunately not all Jihadi's I can be against. If it is against occupation I am 100% supporting. I don't see any other way you get involved with communism and jihadis other than serving as an occupier in Afganistan.


If so I wide I could have helped shattering more USSR balls but northern alliance did a good job with Brave Hekmatiar Masoud the brave martyr who died with a bomb attack by Saudi based Pakistani backed Wahhabi Taliban so called Jihadi's

It is an amazing world.

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 09:58 AM
SeqWin are you by any chance from former USSR? If so, if you had been shattered by Jihadi's defending their motherland like northern alliance in Afghanistan during USSR raid in 1980 which I fully remember. I fully support their resistance to Russian occupiers At the time. If it was me in Afghanistan I would try to shatter more of those occupying bastards!

They are one reason Afganistan was terrorized by brutal Wahhabi like Talibans and then under Americn occupation. Unfortunately not all Jihadi's I can be against. If it is against occupation I am 100% supporting. I don't see any other way you get involved with communism and jihadis other than serving as an occupier in Afganistan.


If so I wide I could have helped shattering more USSR balls but northern alliance did a good job with Brave Hekmatiar Masoud the brave martyr who died with a bomb attack by Saudi based Pakistani backed Wahhabi Taliban so called Jihadi's

It is an amazing world.

MY involvement with Jihadis is from my military service. My involvement with Communism is although an American warrior I'm not a Native of the US but of a communist country fathered by the old USSR....

Enough politics...

Sia
06-02-2012, 10:00 AM
I gotta admit this is funny lol, not funny as in sarcastic funny but funny as in bwahahaha funny...this just made me respect you a bit more...

We all have different opinions and that's that..bring on whatever happens next..I'm ready for it..As a matter of fact..I have been PREPARING for it.

I am glad you liked it. I knew you would. Just did it to make you smile and be less mad! F F F F.... Don't know what is inside this F that is so popular!

Sia
06-02-2012, 10:03 AM
MY involvement with Jihadis is from my military service. My involvement with Communism is although an American warrior I'm not a Native of the US but of a communist country fathered by the old USSR....

Enough politics...

Ok, I like politics though. It is fun of this world. Anyway take care. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. I did like writing all that :) back to programming guys. I hope this resolves.

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 10:34 AM
I hate to say it but it seems some people are just too biggie their britches. This all started with threaten messages left on boards for te way people play, not for anything wrong or anything violating rules. This is power unchecked. Rey are not gods and do not decide what is right or wrong. Keep this on topic to what is going on in this game. McDoc never once flamed or attacked them in any manner that could or should be considered derigatory. Everything has been I response to their actions. Pot kettle, kettle pot!

Sia
06-02-2012, 11:24 AM
The "just" ones? Someone is lobbying for membership. There is nothing just in their actions. Just children throwing temper tantrums!

Poopenshire dear, it is 9 months or more I am playing. I know many of them as we leveled up together. Isn't it too late for that. Many we became friends after raids and attacks and it still exists. I support my friends as I know they are good people and doing what is supposed to be done in this game. But I am neither a pirate nor qualified nor can be :).

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 11:58 AM
Sia, I respect you for what you have done and said here to help others. I also respect alot of what thr pirates do and did. It's the current atmosphere and where people are taking it that I cannot in good conscience stand. When we talk about the it's one thing. When we talk about actions a and threats, well that's different. And that is where our opinions differ. One thing we all agree on pirate, forum member, and players is we are upset at Funzio and we seem to be taking it out on others. We need to remember who is causing the most harm to theism right now and that is the owners of the game. We all want changes and need to Stan united in danding change.

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Been at the Hospital for 4 hours :/ Wifey broke her leg in 2 places and they just now took her back for surgery to get a rod & pins from her knee to her ankle. Ugggg.

Anyway - found out they have Wifi in the hospital so I will have something to do when I get back over there for many more hours of "waiting". Looks like she'll be there for 2 days. .. ..

Anyway -I'll catch up on this thread in a bit. Just checked my MW and haven't had any successful attacks. . . .

Thanks for all the PM's & concern. I'll answer in a bit.

Bronson
06-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Aww bless hope she gets fixed up soon Doc!!!

SeqWins
06-02-2012, 03:07 PM
Hey McDoc really best wishes for you and the wife..the whole family in general..hope everything turns out fine.

Sia
06-02-2012, 04:11 PM
Been at the Hospital for 4 hours :/ Wifey broke her leg in 2 places and they just now took her back for surgery to get a rod & pins from her knee to her ankle. Ugggg.

Anyway - found out they have Wifi in the hospital so I will have something to do when I get back over there for many more hours of "waiting". Looks like she'll be there for 2 days. .. ..

Anyway -I'll catch up on this thread in a bit. Just checked my MW and haven't had any successful attacks. . . .

Thanks for all the PM's & concern. I'll answer in a bit.

Very sorry to hear that :(. Wish your wife very quick recovery.

spectra
06-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Been at the Hospital for 4 hours :/ Wifey broke her leg in 2 places and they just now took her back for surgery to get a rod & pins from her knee to her ankle. Ugggg.

Anyway - found out they have Wifi in the hospital so I will have something to do when I get back over there for many more hours of "waiting". Looks like she'll be there for 2 days. .. ..

Anyway -I'll catch up on this thread in a bit. Just checked my MW and haven't had any successful attacks. . . .

Thanks for all the PM's & concern. I'll answer in a bit.

Do not worry McDoc, take all the time you need
We will be here for you
Hope your wife feel better soon
Cheers

Aidan
06-02-2012, 04:23 PM
Everything'll be fine mcdoc. Take care. Just forget bout this for now. Your family needs you now

Copenhagen
06-02-2012, 04:35 PM
Ouch! So sorry for your wife and hope for a speedy recovery. All the best, buddy.

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 04:47 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes and PM's guys. Most people wouldn't understand that even though we haven't met face to face, the folks on the forum kinda grow on you like long lost High School friends you recomnect with on Facebook :)

Anyway - wife is out of surgery, everything went well. Now she gets a 2 night Free Stay-cation on the floor where she has worked for over 19 years and is currently the supervisor. It will be a nice break from the house for her as we have our 3 y/o daughter and her 93 y/o grandmother to keep up with everyday.

As far as the attacks go today - there has only been 2 players with Über stats that have successfully raided me. Everyone else has had lower stats and failed - a few have even left behind some cash for my troubles :) Not so bad after all :)


Thanks again :)

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 04:51 PM
Been at the Hospital for 4 hours :/ Wifey broke her leg in 2 places and they just now took her back for surgery to get a rod & pins from her knee to her ankle. Ugggg.

Anyway - found out they have Wifi in the hospital so I will have something to do when I get back over there for many more hours of "waiting". Looks like she'll be there for 2 days. .. ..

Anyway -I'll catch up on this thread in a bit. Just checked my MW and haven't had any successful attacks. . . .

Thanks for all the PM's & concern. I'll answer in a bit.

Hey mcdoc I hope your wife will make a speedy recovery, take care man

Jhoemel
06-02-2012, 05:02 PM
mcdoc- i dont believe speed ump put you on the list. he said "i will never attack someone for what they say on the forum"


Yeah I remember this

Q Raider
06-02-2012, 06:28 PM
Hope all works out well for the family Mcdoc.

Issues such as your wife's accident put the whole game Vs real life into its true perspective.

BTW Pretty sure speedump made that statement as a direct response to a question on the very subject of people making comments on this forum.

So for the Pirates to now make a post and refer to this forum as the "rationale" for their conduct actually calls into question the integrity of one of their higher ranking (Leader?) members.

If I were in Speedumps shows I wouldn't be very happy about that at all....

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 07:46 PM
If i can recall, you called them cowards and a series of other names throughout some of the threads relating to them, when most of the forum members knew nothing about them. I highly doubt they're attacking you because you try to be helpful. You disrespected them a few times, you can't deny that, and so that is why they are hitting you. Many others said similar things, but they are lower level and out of reach. Many people were quick to talk $hit about them before they even knew anything about them. It makes sense that a group wouldn't be very happy when someone is making fun of them. Can expect some other people on this forum to also be targets if they become visible.

@JMC - this is the post where I used the word "coward" to describe a behavior - not to actually call out a particular player or the Pirates in general.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?30199-Pirates-Huh/page6&highlight=pirates+huhAs

As is usually is the case, reading comrehension skills often dictate someone's understanding of the written word and can often lead to getting the wrong message. Not commenting on your reading skills - but simply saying that a quick skim over a long post can easily lead to misunderstandings.

Even the guy who I originally questioned about his "bullying" tactics (Feild Marshall Paul) eventually had an intelligent exchange with me about the whole thing which had a cordial ending. He didn't Allie with me, but he's also not the one who posted the hit on my account. I noticed he did actually attack me once today (and lost) - but there were no malicious remarks on my wall from anyone.

So in the end - there wasn't much sting to being called out so blatantly.

Thanks all for the support today on this issue and the personal issue today :)

Speed ump
06-02-2012, 07:49 PM
I havnt read everything here, but a lot. Sequins, i do now what war is, as i have stated before, been there done that. I dont doubt that you have also, so please dont doubt me. Popenshire, really? I have had others claim they will call the police. In fact, just so you will know how it works, please do call and make a report, you know where i am, ill even give you the full info. Guys, funzio legal had all that figured out before they started the game. We have three atorneys, one who was a judge on our team. Theres no legal issues in attacking for any reason in an online war game. Its your choice how you want to percieve that. Sia an i had some long talks in my war with one of our founding memebers. There was no love lost at the time for this player, and sia put the blame where it belonged, on the rules set forth by funzio. I did not always agree with what he said, but understood his point of view, and later realized he was more right in his views than i was at the time. He has never sucked up to me. He had allied with this other player and i even attacked him for this, and he understood my actions. Andrew, i think you have a good way of looking at this game, its the same way i do. Mcdoc, what is your in game name? Same as here? I know there is a superman i had a great discussion with about the under 500 thing. I have not targeted anyone here for what they have said. Pirates smirates, it appears you are just against us period. Thats ok. Its your right. Your arguements are made without using any logic, just the idea you are against us, which i think everyone gets. No matter what youre against us. Its clear. Im not sure what camments set some off on mcdoc, and i think there have been some very much more negative, but not easily indentified from their in game name. I take action from what i see in the game, not what i see here. If some of the guys read here though, it may be hard to not be offended. I post here despite the hate by some. You can say its to defend our veiws, but i dont defend them , merely state them and each can decide on their own how they feel about that. I think, as several here have stated, that many dont realize the game they chose to play is a war game. Sequins, i did not sau identical to real war. Its a game invented to play at war. Its why i even played to begin with. I have played games where you build economies in the past, some od which were war related. I did not enjoy the evonomy part. But had no choice in those games. Here, after a point, the evonomy is all about show. I have one of the largest in the game. I have had to stop for very long periods at a time die to vonstant attaks, even at my level, or it would be the biggest. Thats ok, i did not play because of the economy. I like the war part of the game. And until funzio changes the game to an economy based game, i will continue to play that way.
If everyone gangs up and attacks me for being a pirate, or just because they want to, i dont care why you attack me, i will rrespond as i can, and we have fun fighting. At least i do. If you can consisntanly beat me, good for you. Ill take my lumps. You cant destroy me, and i camt destroy you, even the weakest, no matter how much i attack, i cannot make our avatar or base dissapear. Theres a few racists who i would love to be able to do that to, but its not posssible. If you never want to lose, dont play. There is another player now as strong as i am who can beat me with some effort, and i can beat him. In the game we fight. I real life we talk through email and have decent talks. Its ok we war, which we do because of some lies and sneaky tactics on his part, but its all part of the game. I dont care why, and we have fun doing it. Is still think he pulled a sneaky trick and he still thinks he did no wrong, but we dont let that bleed over. Hes even offered to show me many Historical sights in his country, which i would love to do. Lets keep the war in the game where it belongs. And to those who say we have no strategy, im sure thats the way smaller vontries the us has attacked feel abot their situation too. Its all brute force. Even if that is true, that is a strategy in itself. You always want the bigger army if possible, and you always want to be in a position of strength.

manbeast
06-02-2012, 08:06 PM
in after speed ump

Poopenshire
06-02-2012, 08:17 PM
First thing, I can take a little abuse, but sometime with these antics your going to push someone too far. Your too high and self righteous to understand what your doing. You will do it, mark my words. Youre so wrapped up in your "policing" what you feel is right or wrong you will push sometime beyond where than can handle it. I can only hope this all for naught. I have seen good people put through horrible things for less behaviors.

Mcdoc
06-02-2012, 08:24 PM
Speed - sincere thanks for the feedback - however - there must be someone else who you have me confused with that you think hates the Pirats so much. I only commented on the perceived "bullying" but have otherwise mde complimentary statements about whipping up folks who make racist remarks or use uncalled for vulgarity.

Anyway - I'm sure there's a lot lost in translation and I assure you All my comments have been respectfull. I am not a hater :)

Thanks again for your response

Speed ump
06-02-2012, 08:42 PM
I usualy don't even remember who said what until I read it posted again. When I had my big war I felt much the same way as some where do now. I took things too seriously and personal. I'm managed to become good friends with the players I warred against and we began the pirates. Poop, I don't believe I'm the one feeling high and mighting, and I'm not the one threatening police action, good luck with that. I would seriously like to hear both ends of that call. There was another guy once who was going to call the police, FBI, us army, apple, and funzio on little ole me. Just had to laugh. Guys if someone is not threatening you or your family with real harm, dont bother calling anyone except maybe your moma. I may, and very likely will threaten major harm to your avatar in a make believe game where you never really lose anything, and you're more than welcome to do all the damage you want to my little avatar. You did not hurt me, and I did not hurt you. If you are so seriously upset about this, please find a different kind of game that better suits your desires. I mean no harm in the real world, but I am going to play a game of war here, like it or not. I think sia really stated it well on that subject. Andrew had similar views in less words. enjoy the game for what is is, or find one that you can enjoy or what it brings to you.ive played many games, many of which I did not end p finding to be fun. I did not blame that on the other players,they were playing the game that was presented to them, I felt the devopers had designed a game that just wasn't for me. Simple, not upsetting, had to try to it out to figure it out. A war game by its nature is competitive, and combative.

Romaro
06-02-2012, 09:07 PM
Wish your wife get quick recovery, 🙏

spectra
06-03-2012, 12:33 AM
Speed
We all enjoy this war game, because in a way we used to "vent" either stress, frustrations or what ever bad mood we might be in,, and of course, just because we like this DAMN!! good game,
Perhaps you could just ask your members what was it that they perceived/understood from McDoc's comments, like he stated, maybe his point got "lost in translation"
Anyways, I believe that if they are attacking Mcdoc because is just part of the game, then all is fair, but if they are attacking because of a most likely misunderstanding/misinterpretation of comments, that is not cool
I myself was attacked today by Troy (a pirate member) and just congratulated him, I read his wall and saw your name, so I just asked to say hi to you.
I would not mind becoming allies with you, troy and any other pirate (havind 2,600+ allies, I might even have some as allies already), not because I want to hide behind your strenght (which is why a very sel**** when attacked by a rival I send a "oh please add me here is my ID, blablablabla), but because I respect your accompleshments regarding foul languaage and becoming a solid group which is nice to see, player from diffetent backgrouds, places, ideas form a solid well oiled war machine
Anyways I think that Mcdoc comments were most likely misinterpreted
Cheers

Speed ump
06-03-2012, 07:19 AM
I don't think anyone is seriously going after him. A couple of taps at first.

Mcdoc
06-03-2012, 07:03 PM
Update on the PUN attacks - only one person left a post claiming to be a Pirate.

I'm level 124 and this level 179 guy named LOSkevbo was very proud to catch one of my uncollected buildings :)

Not sure how he found me on the rivals list as I am only seeing folks about 10 levels up & down from me.

I replied on his wall: "Come on back anytime Santa Clause - I'll leave out some Milk & Cookies for you - LoL"

Oh Well - I finally felt the Flea Bite of a Pirate :)

Mcdoc
06-04-2012, 12:44 AM
This thread totally disappeared :?

Jhoemel
06-04-2012, 12:55 AM
Its still alive, dont worry mcdoc

mickymacirl
06-04-2012, 02:00 AM
i got hit by lord during the night, no mention of me pissing off the pirates though, all my vaolr units when to the big wreck in the sky :(

Mcdoc
06-04-2012, 02:05 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how a level 179 player saw me way down at level 124 when I can only see levels 114 to 135 :?

Jhoemel
06-04-2012, 02:06 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how a level 179 player saw me way down at level 124 when I can only see levels 114 to 135 :?

I can only see up to 135 mcdoc, i think when you are in the cellar, you can see anyone below you

Speed ump
06-04-2012, 09:02 AM
Mcdoc, I have a game going in that area and same for me. Dosnt seem fair to me either, and yes they can see down, but I don't know where the break is where that happens. Mickey you were just lucky, you're not on any list. I think a lot of guys were raiding just in case that ow funzio was scoring the event. This was actually a slow raiding period for me.

Poopenshire
06-04-2012, 09:12 AM
Mcdoc, I have a game going in that area and same for me. Dosnt seem fair to me either, and yes they can see down, but I don't know where the break is where that happens. Mickey you were just lucky, you're not on any list. I think a lot of guys were raiding just in case that ow funzio was scoring the event. This was actually a slow raiding period for me.

that is exactly how i was playing the event all weekend. I was hitting levels 94,95,96, and 97 for any and all buildings paying more than 200K and any unvualted cash. I must have hit >500 raids in 2 days. I hit some nice buildings too!

Arizona
06-04-2012, 09:13 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how a level 179 player saw me way down at level 124 when I can only see levels 114 to 135 :?
Doc, I'd speculate that there are going to be fewer targets 10 levels either side of 179. with respect to you seeing 10 levels either side of 124. To make it worthwhile for those high level players to continue spending money, they have to make the game playable up there.
Imagine yourself at 179 with few targets. You might just call it a day and move on. Funzio loses a revenue source.

Speed ump
06-04-2012, 12:12 PM
Yes, the guys there would get sick of each other real quick, especially if one is much more powerful.