Strongest units & items brought into battle

[Freekizh]

Can people tell or show me what the battle screen says the number of units you and the rival brings into battle after each attack? I dont think the screen is accurate anymore.

Thanks

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[The_Red]

I don't think the screen has ever been accurate... only shows like 45 units on my screen which is barely the weapons.

[Freekizh]

I don't think the screen has ever been accurate... only shows like 45 units on my screen which is barely the weapons.

It'll show the pictures of the top 45 units, but at the top it'll say you brought 150 units and items, and the rival brought 90 units and items.

[The_Red]

It'll show the pictures of the top 45 units, but at the top it'll say you brought 150 units and items, and the rival brought 90 units and items.

I just randomly attacked someone and it seemed wrong: 341 units and items - mine should be quite a bit more than that with 161 allies. Its always been pretty off IMHO.

[Freekizh]

I just randomly attacked someone and it seemed wrong: 341 units and items - mine should be quite a bit more than that with 161 allies. Its always been pretty off IMHO.

Strange you are bringing more to battle than me...could it be due to level? If anyone else coud report - also state your ally count and rival ally count as well. Thanks!

[The_Red]

Strange you are bringing more to battle than me...could it be due to level? If anyone else coud report - also state your ally count and rival ally count as well. Thanks!

Ya - I don't know... Ive got quite a number of high end weapons/armour. I just attacked another grandom guy and repeated the 341 (5x - since I was curious), so its not based upon their allies.

[Skoty422]

Ok. This is what I came up with. All my stats stayed the same which are:

Lvl : 48
Ally: 57
Suw: 513 <-- strongest units and weapons

Rival 1: lvl 48/ally 57/suw 504
Rival 2: lvl 47/ally 57/suw 345
Rival 3: lvl 48/ally 31/suw 279
Rival 4: lvl 47/ally 84/suw 756

I attacked rival and raided both showed same results.
All attacks and raids were successful.

[Freekizh]

Thanks skoty - this is awesome pal. For various reasons I cannot do PvP right now otherwise I would post.

Generally suw seems to increase as ally count increases - the only discrepancies is the l47 and 48 with 57 allies, which I can only explain being due to level, or they don't have enuff units or a combo of both.

[Skoty422]

Well I have never attacked blind on purpose. Because I attack for reasons not to just attack. Both the lvl 47&48 with 57 allies had enough armor and weapons to equip their 171 units. They had well over 200 and one had a little over 300. I don't know where that comes from. It increases with new ,better than base lvl, loot items.

[Freekizh]

Well I have never attacked blind on purpose. Because I attack for reasons not to just attack. Both the lvl 47&48 with 57 allies had enough armor and weapons to equip their 171 units. They had well over 200 and one had a little over 300. I don't know where that comes from. It increases with new ,better than base lvl, loot items.

I agree - I carefully checked the rivals units and weapons and armor, and nearly all had enough kit to bring their theoretical max units to battle (level x 5 x 3). To check your >base loot theory - farm some more good loot and see if suw increases?

so unless ths is a total bug (I don't think so) then the disclosed SUW numbers would be driving a lot of he battle dynamics that we are observing and can explain a lot if things. This also implies the KA system is unique..

[Skoty422]

Yea but the rival with 84 allies had suw of 756. That's way above my 513. Yet they lost. That was a battle and a raid they lost. I did lose a unit on the battle though. But my 513 didn't change when I went to the next rival without buying another unit. But with that being said I do have enough units to equip 62 allies with attacks of 14-24. I don't know. If u see something that may make sense let me hear it. In the mean time, I'm gonna go double check the drop add I said earlier just to double check.

[Skoty422]

I don't think he put all his points into defense. Yet another attack on a rival with 92 allies had 842 suw lvl 48. But his defense was in the low 4k range. That just means he has neglected his army.

I counted all the different types of w&a&units I have and it's a little over 200. That's not counting what I have of the same of course. Thought that may mean something but I don't see it playing a role.

When you look at my profile in game do u see 57 allies?

[Freekizh]

57 allies - attack 6402, Defense 6706 - is this what you see in your profile?

[Skoty422]

No. 6402/6796
Maybe u thought the "9" was a "0"?

[Freekizh]

Yep probably right - I see 6803 now.

I just added some good armor and SUW increased by 1. Ally count didn't do anything..wild goose chase..system thing

[Tiki]

I just did a raid, I am level 45 with 76 allies. My result showed 76 allies, strongest units 172. It should be 225 as i have lots of units to send into battle. The person I raided is level 45 with 48 allies - result showed 48 allies only 88 units going into battle. I checked and he had sufficient numbers to send 144 units into battle.

[Tiki]

I just noticed my ally count is wrong. It states I have 65, plus 10 grunts = 75, but my profile and raid results show 76

[YLL]

I have enough siege towers that all the units I bring to battle should be those. But for some reason, the battle results screens always show me bringing a proportion of lesser units, like catapults and ballistas.

[Skoty422]

Definately sounds like some bug issues y'all are having. Especially if you have enough siege towers for every ally (3 each). Unless you lose one and you just had enough so t takes the next in line into battle which may be catapult. But that doesn't explain the ballista. I would check and make sure you have 3x(amount of allies) of the siege towers. If so then you need to report this to funzio support. But, on the other hand if you are using all your attack power of the towers but losing lower cost units that's a "good" bug. Lol.

[YLL]

Definately sounds like some bug issues y'all are having. Especially if you have enough siege towers for every ally (3 each). Unless you lose one and you just had enough so t takes the next in line into battle which may be catapult. But that doesn't explain the ballista. I would check and make sure you have 3x(amount of allies) of the siege towers. If so then you need to report this to funzio support. But, on the other hand if you are using all your attack power of the towers but losing lower cost units that's a "good" bug. Lol.

Well, I went up from 14 allies, or 42 units to battle, to 18 today - which would be 54 units. I currently have 109 siege towers in inventory - check them out, I'm on your allies list.

Unfortunately, I only lose siege towers, lol. So, I mainly raid silos and castles which have been upgraded and people with lots of unvaulted gold (except for this one guy who attacked me when he was three levels higher - now, for three consecutive days, I have been raiding his L5 and L3 silos and L5 castle. For some reason, he keeps trying to raid me back and not getting much, which I'm happy about as it keeps him in my victi... err... rivals list, hehe).

[Tiki]

I think the strongest units and items is the number you have with a specific attack number or higher. Spouse is a math whiz - he built a data sheet on my units, weapons and armor and it seems my count is units and items hiring an attack higher than xx (not sure it would be wise to post my actual number). So to test his theory I bought items higher than his number, and sure enough the number on my raid result went up. When I lost units above the number it went down. I'm not sure if everyone's number is the same or if it is a percentage of your total Ttack.

[Skoty422]

Your suw is 9x ally. 60 allies your number should be 540. 3 units3 weapons 3 armor for each ally. That is the suw #. It should not increase or decrease with units weapons or armor bought unless you are short for the allies.

[Skoty422]

Yll, when you attack someone you get their full listed defense as on their profile. When you raid them you get a much smaller defense unless all their defense buildings are protecting that particular building. So if someone has a 5k D on profile and their silo is far away from the D building circles then it will probably be more like a 4500 D or less on raids. I use this when all I can raid is people with high allies. Helps success a little.

[YLL]

Yll, when you attack someone you get their full listed defense as on their profile. When you raid them you get a much smaller defense unless all their defense buildings are protecting that particular building. So if someone has a 5k D on profile and their silo is far away from the D building circles then it will probably be more like a 4500 D or less on raids. I use this when all I can raid is people with high allies. Helps success a little.

Oh, I was just saying that I tend to lose siege towers rather than lesser units when I had the bug where I had the latter coming to battle (no longer a problem, seems to have been fixed). And because I only lose high value units, I tend to raid only high value targets.

Incidentally, probably for the reasons you described, I have no problem winning raids (297 successful, 1 unsuccessful) either, even against somewhat more powerful opponents. :)

[Freekizh]

Looks like the new update has made the numbers more realistic, but I am still not getting my full unit/weapon/armor for my ally count.

The battle system is still screwed up. Non boost units are still going into battle over boosted units.