Which Building to Upgrade?

[joaquim]

I'm currently upgrading my second Movie Theater to level 3 and when I'm done, there's gonna be a lot of saving up to do. So I made a poll to see what you guys think is the best building to upgrade while saving up for the next Movie Theater upgrade.

[ShawnBB]

This is gonna be a long thread,I'll take the seat first :)



Edit:

I still have no idea how did you manage to keep those early super value buildings only at lvl 2. And you can afford MT lvl 3 already. This is a very very unhealthy game play.

Why not take orders upgrading them while you were in early game? What were you doing with the money??

Those upgrade time in total only take few hours man, you were just leaving them there doing nothing?

Gun shop, Tshirt ,house, Italian. All get to lvl4 ASAP. Ice cream shop, barbershop up them all, Jesus.

[PawnXIIX]

Go for the Italian Restaurant. Just...I don't even need math to back that opinion up. XD

[joaquim]

Go for the Italian Restaurant. Just...I don't even need math to back that opinion up. XD

Thanks for voting, Pawn. My top two is actually the Italian Restaurant and the House but I'll take which ever one gets the most votes of all.

[white frog]

That's an easy one... Italian Restaurant! House is great too, but in your current situation, the 3 hour payout is valuable!

[joaquim]

That's an easy one... Italian Restaurant! House is great too, but in your current situation, the 3 hour payout is valuable!

Another vote for Italian Restaurant. Thanks for voting white frog.

[Spoon86]

Go for the house, Easy to sync and the payout os very good.
Italian Restaurant would have been my second choice.

[Vicious...]

Italian Restaurant or House. I voted IR.

[enahs1]

I voted house, you get full value out of it and you won't miss it's collection time like a 3 hr building unless you wake up in the middle of the night to collect a Intalian Resteraunt

[G Wiz]

Italian restaurant.

Why?

Because-a I-a said-a so-a

[murf]

I'm currently upgrading my second Movie Theater to level 3 and when I'm done, there's gonna be a lot of saving up to do. So I made a poll to see what you guys think is the best building to upgrade while saving up for the next Movie Theater upgrade.

Italian Restaurant and I don't think it's close

What have you been upgrading? You should try and get these (Italian, Gun Shop, T-Shirt Stand, House) all to level 3...ASAP....quick extremely high ROI upgrades.

[Nicholost]

Italian Restaurant > House, IMO. Although, enahs1 makes a good point about missed collection times with the Italians. However, consider this: A level 3 house makes $2,160 a day. If you were to collect 5 of your 8 collections from your level 3 Italian, you'd make $4,200. That's almost twice the performance of a House. Unfortunately, the upgrade cost is $12,550 vs. the House's $3,067. But we proved that you will make up that difference in about 4 days, so it's not really a considerable drawback, IMO.

[Maniaxe]

18hr buildings get overlooked IMO. They are big money makers that if properly synced and collected can make a significant amount of moolah. But to give my input regarding your question, pretty much what everyone else has said. Upgrade those Italians or houses while you wait for the big money upgrades. But I really like my 18hr buildings as well as those fish stores. They are all going to get upgraded anyways so there is no right or wrong direction.

[PawnXIIX]

Even if you miss the collection times on the Italian Restaurants, it's not like people are going to rob them...I think I've had both my level 6s robbed once if that.

[Dreno33]

definitely italians. When I bought mine, before I did anything else, I saved up to upgrade them to lvl 6 (still lvl 6) by upgrading LMs in the meantime. At lvl 6, they have an amazing ROI still and quick upgrade times still. you have MTs already to lvl 3, thats really good. I would suggest getting your Italians to lvl 6 and then go back to saving. you will definitely see the difference in time to save(:

[Spartacus]

A basic rule of thumb is to get all low level buildings to level 5. Get Ice Cream Shoppes, Italian Restaurants, and Houses up to 10. Purchase Loft or MT upgrades whenever possible.

So I guess I vote Italian Restaurant. Can you collect 3h buildings decently?

[PawnXIIX]

At lvl 6, they have an amazing ROI still and quick upgrade times still.

Always agreeing with that statement. With $1,129 per hour income, that means $27,096 per day. Which is almost as much as a level 10 house but with almost half the investment. The ROI for the $138,976 cost for construction is an impressive 123 hours.

Whoever voted T-shirt stand... I don't really see an insane value in 18 hour buildings personally...I frequently miss collection times on a wholesale warehouse and i'm getting ready to remove it since it is taking up lots of space personally. The only time a T-shirt stand surpasses the IpH that the Restaurant has is at level 9, and at that level you have already invested over twice that for a restaurant and even more for a much more easily timed house.

Restaurants for days. I think the poll truly reveals that now. Arguing with myself, whoo!

[Feng1234]

Heh. From what I've seen it's all about your long term game plan. If you want a sustainable game approach, then you'd want to focus on 12, 24, 48 hour buildings which is easier to sync and better for your sanity. In this case, I'd easily for a house.

While Italians gives better ROI and as Nich pointed out, superior income with only several collections, it's something that's unlikely to be sustainable. As you move up, you'll get tired and eventually want to sell it. That's my game approach at least and why I'm only upgrading 12, 24, 48 hour buildings. I've sold my Italians.

It's really a game of endurance. The longer you play, the more income you'll get and the stronger you'll get. Once the big payout buildings come into play, you'll wonder why you cared so much about the minimal income from the Type A Italian.

Go for the House I say!!!

PS. I do want to say that for newer players reading this, I recommend Italians as it critical to your early game along with other 3 hour buildings and laundromats. But by the time you've saved enough money from jobs, PVPs and normal income for MTs, Dominicians or Lofts, your game will have entered the next phase and depending on your hourly income, you can start consolidating in the words of tramp stamp and move towards 12, 24, 48 hour buildings. Hence don't focus on upgrading high frequency 3 hours buildings too much but enough to support the high income type a buildings like mts, lofts and type bs like Dominican.

[Feng1234]

This is gonna be a long thread,I'll take the seat first :)



Edit:

I still have no idea how did you manage to keep those early super value buildings only at lvl 2. And you can afford MT lvl 3 already. This is a very very unhealthy game play.

Why not take orders upgrading them while you were in early game? What were you doing with the money??

Those upgrade time in total only take few hours man, you were just leaving them there doing nothing?

Gun shop, Tshirt ,house, Italian. All get to lvl4 ASAP. Ice cream shop, barbershop up them all, Jesus.

You can get quite a bit of cash from jobs at the lower levels. Sure you'll level to much but keep mafia lvl low and you'll still be pretty safe. Key is to make sure you camp/crawl before you get too high.

[PawnXIIX]

It's really a game of endurance. The longer you play, the more income you'll get and the stronger you'll get. Once the big payout buildings come into play, you'll wonder why you cared so much about the minimal income from the Type A Italian.

I want to second that opinion. For now when you still have everything low level I still stand by my original statement yet you shouldn't neglect the type B buildings. The point of building a lot of these buildings that are suggested are to inject your economy with adrenaline so that way you can build the type B buildings for the long run, because in the end game and later levels type As just don't have the might to keep you moving forward. In a perfect world you'll want to build both but I still say restaurant. Keep the house close on the upgrades list, i'm not saying you should ignore it :P

[in-game j]

out of those, the only ones i've kept are the history museum and the house.

[Dreno33]

in-game j - NICE DEFENSE! do you have gold weapons?

[Sasha54]

definitely italians. When I bought mine, before I did anything else, I saved up to upgrade them to lvl 6 (still lvl 6) by upgrading LMs in the meantime. At lvl 6, they have an amazing ROI still and quick upgrade times still. you have MTs already to lvl 3, thats really good. I would suggest getting your Italians to lvl 6 and then go back to saving. you will definitely see the difference in time to save(:

What did you level your houses to?
Mine are at 8 - is it worth it to go to 10 do you think?

[in-game j]

in-game j - NICE DEFENSE! do you have gold weapons?

Some. I kept getting robbed so I bought a lot of bodyguard defense buildings. That solved that problem for now.

[joaquim]

What did you level your houses to?
Mine are at 8 - is it worth it to go to 10 do you think?

My houses are at level 2. It says it on the poll.

[Dorian Gray]

What did you level your houses to?
Mine are at 8 - is it worth it to go to 10 do you think?

I say yes, mine have been at ten for a really long time. LMs and Ice Cream shops are my only other lvl 10 $$ buildings.

[Dreno33]

What did you level your houses to?
Mine are at 8 - is it worth it to go to 10 do you think?

my houses are lvl 2, lol. pawns are 3. they were TINY upgrade times so... why not? all the other "crap" buildings are lvl 1 (deli, gas, souvenir, tattoo, diner, and gun)

i figured i might as well expand and let them build and start paying off my expansion debt(:

[Sasha54]

my houses are lvl 2, lol. pawns are 3. they were TINY upgrade times so... why not? all the other "crap" buildings are lvl 1 (deli, gas, souvenir, tattoo, diner, and gun)

i figured i might as well expand and let them build and start paying off my expansion debt(:

I don't consider all the others crap - some I got rid of (diner, deli, gas ) - the others I level up somewhat.
I think you should take your houses higher though

[Dreno33]

I don't consider all the others crap - some I got rid of (diner, deli, gas ) - the others I level up somewhat.
I think you should take your houses higher though

No point (to me) when i have enough money to upgrade my lofts, MTs, and Empires up and when my ice creams and italians aren't lvl 10. I'm a 3-hour guy. Those rake in the most money for me(:

[PawnXIIX]

Can somebody explain to me the vote that was put up there for the museum?

[Sasha54]

Can somebody explain to me the vote that was put up there for the museum?

Nothing wrong with museums - I have both mine at level 3.
They look nice and since I intend to keep them - might as well level them up to a point.

[kykboxr]

Italians, hands down. I'd say house second. Like stated, the best, err, a good protocol would be to level most everything up to L5 immediately to reap the benefits. If you can figure out a way to collect the tshirt stands on time, that's my third vote. Again, it's all about your game play. As someone who works a crapload of hours a day, I'm more into the 8+ hour buildings. I still have two gun stores, but as soon as I need to upgrade, I will sell those as well as the pawn and deli's.

[murf]

my houses are lvl 2, lol. pawns are 3. they were TINY upgrade times so... why not? all the other "crap" buildings are lvl 1 (deli, gas, souvenir, tattoo, diner, and gun)

i figured i might as well expand and let them build and start paying off my expansion debt(:

Dreno, I'm surprised at you...I would say if you are going to get them at all, they need to be at least at L3 if not L5. If not, don't even build them, it's not worth the nanosecond to collect from them.

[joaquim]

Attention everyone, there are 15 minutes left untill the poll closes. Can we try to get as many votes in as possible in these last 15 minutes and I'd also like to not see a 3 way tie for last place between the Fish Store, Bagel Store, and Gun Shop. I would like to see at least a one vote difference between each building so that I can determine the exact order to upgrade my buildings.

[joaquim]

Ok the final results are in the winner with 16 votes is the Italian Restaurant followed by the House with 9 votes followed by the T-Shirt Stand with 3 votes followed by the History Museum with 1 vote followed by the Gun Shop, Fish Store, and Bagel Shop with 0 votes. The Italian Restaurants and Houses will both go to level 10. The T-Shirt Stand will go to level
7. The History Museum will go to level 5 and the other buildings will go to level 3. Thank you to everyone who voted in this poll.