5k and Higher Income Per Hour

[SeqWins]

Anybody in the forum hit this mark yet? I'm about a couple of days from reaching 5k and have a vault of 33k. Just wondering where you guys are sitting in pretty sure I've read somewhere people talking about 7k.

And before this starts into a sell your 5 minute and 30 minute buildings I don't want to hear it they are all at level 10 and they make quick money for me so I don't care if you want me to sell them to show a true IPH I log in hourly so suck it!

Anyways I would love to see your IPH!

[John Snow]

IPH: 2830
Level: 16
Cottages, Bazaars - lvl 5
Farms - lvl 6
Everything else, lvl 5 and below

[P4TR1C14N]

Seqwins. What you describe is only possible if you throw real money into the game or the time in your universe works considerable faster as in mine :). If you're a free player then i don't understand how you did that.

In short... no, not possible without investing real money (imho).

On the other hand, didn't see any profile yet that did hit the 5k mark. As far i see on rival profiles (+/- around level 40), 3k is already rare.

[SeqWins]

You mean the 7kIPH? I forget what thread I saw it on I'll look it up. But if you're talking about me hitting 5k lol I'm at 4673 right now will be in the 47s later on today and maybe tomorrow will get into the 5s....lol look at my sig that's a picture of my profile from a couple of days ago.

Oh and btw I'm freaking broke like Derrick Rose, I don't make enough money to spend on a game. Look at my forum Profile and you will understand why I'm so broke.

I don't lie, don't need to prove anything either but if you upgrade your cottages your farm and bazaar all to level 10 do the math...if you need more proof look at my level 10 building thread for more screenshots.

[enahs1]

I've seen a thread where one of the screenshots of someone had a income of 7k+ per hour

[P4TR1C14N]

Seq,

All respect for you as a player, so don't take any of my comments personal etc.

I just don't understand how you can level money buildings then so fast. Upgrade a bazaar or cottage in the higher levels doesn't take a couple of hours, but days afaik. So i'm missing something. I can't do it that fast, so i'm eager to discover how you achieve this goal. Probably the explanation comes from seeing your profile. It's clear you are a professional camper :). You probably only invest in upgrading money building and don't upgrade unit buildings etc at all.

Can that explain how you can upgrade 'faster'. A day here where i live has 24 hours :)

PS2: Nice iph you got there :).

[SeqWins]

Well I don't quite remember how long it took to upgrade my cottages or farms but I believe the longest one was 24 or 28 hours meaning It took me 1 week or less to upgrade 2 cottages and another week to upgrade farms. The bazaar the longest upgrade was 36? Or 32? Bad memory but it took me a bit longer than a week for both that's 3 weeks of upgrading smart since the game came out....

Currently working on my siege workshop to 10... Yep I'm going to have some units that some players don't have at higher levels.(catapult) at 3600 gold per unit that's not quite chump change but pretty affordable.

And the whole point of camping is to be as to afford units or the best units, I'll be equipped with the best of them I. A week or 2 and will come out to play.

Who said camping wasn't a good strategy again?

[SeqWins]

I just saw in another thread ShawnBB another free Player with 4k IPH...:)

And Enahs you got an IPH? My stats don't matter

[enahs1]

This is my KA camping account Seqwins
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/enahs1237/b1a3051c.jpg

[SeqWins]

Freekish my man what's up? You want to show a screenshot of money on hand vs mines? Maybe that'll show you I can sit here where I am for 5 minutes or for 5 years, what I do is my business you let me worry about that.

You going to tell everybody your IPH? If not
Go argue about something else in another thread.

[SeqWins]

This is my KA camping account Seqwins
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/enahs1237/b1a3051c.jpg

Nice that account looks like a beast in the making, thanks for
Posting.

[enahs1]

I have 55k on hand and nothing to spend it on. I built everything I can build and my vault is always upgrading, but the upgrades for money buildings don't cost anything (only 1k to 2k.) I'm upgrading my seige workshop to level 10 so I'll have the best units. It's almost on 6. I mean, some other camper attacked me and he had a higher attack then me and got me for 21k and I just laughed and posted congrats on his wall.

[-->FISH<--]

I'm close to 4K... I have just lvl up enough to build next buildings.
I have 2 farms at lvl 10. And will start my bazaars next. My land cost is
30K+ ....

[Mastermind]

IPH: 4484
Vault: 50K
No real money spent yet....

[SeqWins]

Look at that up there 4484 IPH and no money spent can't be:rolleyes:

Good job Mastermind

[-->FISH<--]

Oh yeah.... I'm A FREE player.....

[SeqWins]

Look at that another free player close to 4k....

Are you getting the point? I'm sorry don't take what I say personal and I respect you as a player but you suck!

I'm pretty sure there's bigger fish out there with 5k and higher income, like I said I forgot what thread it was but I saw a 7k IPH screenshot in another thread...anyways carry on with the IPH and for other players TAKE NOTES before judging..it may help you get on our level...

If you want to cry go to maternity.

[-->FISH<--]

Dang that's just filthy...... Oh wait kind of fits..... Hardcore... :)

[Freekizh]

Are you getting the point? I'm sorry don't take what I say personal and I respect you as a player but you suck!
.

You see there you go again beating up other players with your useless IPH stats. You do it all the time.

[SeqWins]

Have you been paying attention to the whole thread? Or been too busy erasing your own posts? Smmfh

Anyways 5k income anybody?

[Crazy Canuck]

IMO IPH is way overrated in these forums (CC, MW and KA)

IPH is never a true stat since most people who have high amounts have done it threw upgradeing building like Cottage (collect every 5 mins), Farm (every 30 mins) and Bazzar (ever 1 hour). Since those building collect rapidly you increase you IPH alot fast. Problem is no matter what anyone tell you they can not collect everytime possible for those building. You have to sleep at some point and real life will get in the way.

My IPH is 2019 but it is more of a true income since the building I upgrade are 12 and 24 hour ones (will do 48 hour one's as well when I unlock some).

In the end though it's each to their own style. I play all 3 games so I much preffer just upgrading the bigger building I know that I can collect everytime and a set time everyday.

[Freekizh]

Sure I have - I know you claim camping is good and that anyone with under 4k sucks. It's ones thing to say you doing it for fun and optics for stats, but another thing to call out or mislead people who don't inflate their stats with cottages farms and bazaars and somehow imply this is how it should be done IMHO

Let's play another game.. Who collects more than 100k in 24 hours?

[SeqWins]

Sure man I said all of that and you're right about everything...lol

And I would play the game but it wouldn't be fair since I'm already there?

Like I said in the beginning of the thread this is for 5k or higher income wether you like IPH or not or work on it or not that is your choice your game but don't try to change how I play because you like to play different.

Again....back to 5k or higher income

[Freekizh]

Dude I dont care how you play, but how you like to smack people all the time with these IPH stats. You do it all the time - I know you are a one trick pony but seriously bro.

[enahs1]

So I suck now because I have a 2k IPH? I can't wait until you stop camping so I can find you!

[SeqWins]

Were you anywhere close when that kid pretty much called me a liar for having a 4k+ income? You guys are unbelievable.

Need I remind you it's a game people!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve0]

My camper

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh310/steveyboy419/photo.png

[Njwmrb]

Lets all be real for a second, IPH is a joke. If that's what your proud of props man, but it doesn't mean you make money. I've got 2 Manors and 2 Lenders and my IPH is around 3400. I can make 100k in a day with minimal effort.

[Steve0]

Yeah I have only been successfully attacked 3 times in 3 weeks so my income does go to units and weapons as well as upgrading buildings,

[Altz]

High IPH is good, i saw one guy with 11k+ IPH... And im at 8k+ now. Heavy gem buyer, and btw, high IPH, increases the amount of gold. So for example, i'm at 8k IPH, i can spend 100bux n get 944k gold. 200 bux and i can upgrade my lvl 9 breeding den to lvl10. Hmmm....

[The_Red]

Lets all be real for a second, IPH is a joke. If that's what your proud of props man, but it doesn't mean you make money. I've got 2 Manors and 2 Lenders and my IPH is around 3400. I can make 100k in a day with minimal effort.

Thank you - IPH is a waste of time. Most people wo have high income per hour have been investing in cottages and other buildings which inflate your IPH - who has time to grab the cash out of a level 10 cottage every 6-10 mins to achieve that IPH? Dump.

PVP (or PVBuilding) is where its at with dominant stats in the group you're ranked with for attacking within the game can achieve much higher income than 2-4k/hr.

[P4TR1C14N]

1. I don't like it to be called a kiddie. Keep your imagination for yourself.
2. I don't like it when people say i'm accusing them they are hacking/cheating when i haven't said it. Keep your imagination for yourself.

3. As all the replies in this topic state, iph is a bad measurement.
4. On the contrary, 3 is not the answer our topic starter is looking for. No, i don't have 5k iph. I've got 2.5k approx and will not soon reach 5k as i'm focusing more on the 8+ collectable money buildings.

It's incredible to see how soon people start shouting, using strang language when they get countered or questioned. Keep the fun in it and for the ones with a high IpH, well done, be proud on it. Use it well and you might be really invincible.

[ShawnBB]

I just saw in another thread ShawnBB another free Player with 4k IPH...:)

And Enahs you got an IPH? My stats don't matter

Hehe, seq. wade sucked badly last game. But I still like all his amazing crossovers the most, don't see anybody can compete him on that.
I'm afraid that I did two lvl7 cottage,two lvl6 farm and two lvl5 bazaar to inflate my IpH. Because during that time I need money to build all the fresh unlocked buildings, chose some low ROI so that I can pile some cash around.
So I'm not proud of my IpH:(. now focus upgrading 12h and 24h ones to build some hard cash.

And as you are a camper,there's nothing worth to show if you are doing the pure inflation to deceive others.
A good player will never be a hard camper, the reason ppl camp is that they don't know how to keep safe if normally level up, only by some time consuming ahead to have a advantage on others later on.
Sorry for saying that, but those guys who is around 2000+ by only upgrading long payout buildlings are doing way better than a camper IMO.

[Everson25]

Hi guys! Camping or not camping? The way I see is just a strategy! If I would say bad things about a camper I would have to say bad things from those who can buy gems as well. I don't say anything about it. Because its all about strategy and how the person feels the game works for them. You might think I say tha because I'm a camper. No, I camped a bit choosing a different strategy to see if works for me. Like other players here that's not my first time playing a strategy game. In my case, I also went the other way and made lots of mistakes. I'm trying through this game do better than I did before. There is not one true or one way. We are all different and we will do different things. Anyway, I'm not a expert. I just felt sharing my view.

[MaverickMunkey]

Personally, I have been levelling up to 50 so that everything is unlocked and then I plan to spend a couple of weeks upgrading the unit / boost buildings and vault so that i can unlock more powerful units before going further.

[SeqWins]

Seqwins. What you describe is only possible if you throw real money into the game or the time in your universe works considerable faster as in mine :). If you're a free player then i don't understand how you did that.

In short... no, not possible without investing real money (imho).


Not possible is key here but hey enough of that.

Everson thank you for respecting other players strategies or the way they play. In less than a week I will have all of my money buildings upgraded to 10 including the bakery but excluding the castle....my siege workshop is soon coming after and I think so far I want to go for Catapults with a 40a17d? Around there? At level 3 what players has these available?

Wether you hate my strategy or not, it's mines it doesn't make it right or wrong or good or bad. I'm glad this thread kind of sparked some good arguments but most importantly play the game however the hell you want and enjoy it! Let the others be!

[Hugh Bris]

I see one that's 11796 an hour. No way to get that without spending money on lots of gold to upgrade and lots of in-game money too. That's insane but kind of impressive if you think about it. Oh well. We just keep trudging along lol.

[The_Red]

I see one that's 11796 an hour. No way to get that without spending money on lots of gold to upgrade and lots of in-game money too. That's insane but kind of impressive if you think about it. Oh well. We just keep trudging along lol.

I don't know about that - I saw a guy a few mins ago with a tiny little **** kingdom with all l7-10 farms, cottages and bizzars with a 5k/hr income stream. He had a couple expensive buildings at L1. I could see someone without spending $ on gems be able to get to something in that neighborhood... now their actual return unless they play constantly picking up gold every 6 mins would be quite a different story.

[Crazy Canuck]

Camping is not a bad idea. I am some what camping on KA since on MW I just kept leveling up normally then got behind on upgrading all building I wanted. I actually lvled up faster then I wanted on MW cuase of all of those special events but since they haven't started on KA yet figured I should sit around abit to upgrade my 12 and 24 hour buildings.

I know once the events start I will be lvling up alot so might aswell take it easy while I can lol

[Hugh Bris]

http://i.imgur.com/rWIgq.png

[Freekizh]

That's awesome - your profile? Any cottages/farms/bazaars inflating that or just from massive upgrades from gem buildings or manors?

[Hugh Bris]

No - just saw it recently and thought it was amazing. HAD to have spent both gems and bought in-game money to make that happen - upgrading the big buildings. Pretty impressive if you're THAT much into the game lol.

As for me I'm doing well - right about 5000

[John Snow]

No - just saw it recently and thought it was amazing. HAD to have spent both gems and bought in-game money to make that happen - upgrading the big buildings. Pretty impressive if you're THAT much into the game lol.


Wow. What level was this guy?

[Hugh Bris]

um...60 something. Sorry - I blacked it out and don't remember. Just trying to prove that high of an income exsited.

[John Snow]

um...60 something. Sorry - I blacked it out and don't remember. Just trying to prove that high of an income exsited.

Well, you convinced me.

[SeqWins]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/SeqTheMesiah/Modern%20War%20Crime%20City%20and%20Kingdom%20Age/fdf1f3d5.jpg

[ShawnBB]

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/ShawnBBB/64edce9f.jpg

[emcee]

Both of my camper are over 5k/hr without gold spend. Over 300k cash on hand and on or about 40k/48 hours expansion and 50k vault. It helps being a Canadian and get a little bit of a jump prior to US release.
Only regret is poor win/loss ratio imo as there was no semblance of bracketing in the first few days of release.

Camping for me compliments my busy work and social life. Minimum investment in game/play time at the moment, all the while getting stronger with priests and defense buildings fending off all invasions/attacks since US release.

[Odie]

Lvl 51 (I despise camping)
33k vault (half way to next upgrade)
IPH - 2848
I have all but 5 free buildings up - water temple, 2xManor, 2xLender not done, and all the land I need to build everything I can (except the water plot I need)

I think my highest single building is a silo at 5 followed by a Tavern at 4. I build for quests and then level kind of evenly beyond that...plus I have invested time upgrading the mill and unit buildings.

My IPH would actually be higher but work blocked all funzio servers so I can't check during the day anymore. Any building that isn't on a morning/evening collection schedule stays open for hours at a time potentially...and the vultures with 100 more allies than me have no issues exploiting the fact that the rival list is horribly broken.

[-->FISH<--]

It's just depends on how you view the game. I have been taking my time and working things with a purpose to me.
My iph is 4k+, I do not pvp much at this time because I will wait for an event and hopefully new items. I have both farms lvl 10, working on boost bldgs now ... Water temple was 20k first upgrade... I make sure before I lvl up each unit has a weapon and armor. This game reminds me of mafia wars ... Each person needed either a vehicle, armor, or a weapon.
I tried to look ahead and get the best weapon but, owl hollow let me down, no weapons when I kill the people.
I have 6800/6200 stats and build every building before I move to the next lvl. Just my way to play... Lvl 28

[Futon]

I have to admit i don't really understand the point of camping. At what point do you start to level and play the game? I understand slowly leveling while you build your kingdom and farm armors, but just sitting there at low levels for months i don't get. Do campers ever catch up to end game?

[rareay84]

I don't know if you'd call it camping or not, but every time I hit a new level, I avoid gaining xp until I've:
* Built any new unlocked buildings.
* Expanded to make sure there's plenty of room
* Added 5 allies/15 unit capacity.
* Added the best 15 units, weapons, and armor a free player can get at that level. (If it makes sense to get a set of 15 attack things and 15 def things, I do that).

Here at level 14, that means I'll spend around $150k gold or so, before I'll go clean people's clocks and move to level 15. My iPH is $2949, but I probably collect $40k/day out of the $70k/day max. So I'll spend 4-5 days or so at this level.


Do campers ever catch up to end game?Yep - and when I get there I'll be a top-tier free player.

AT 3.2k Df 5.7k W/L 325/9
171-174-158

[Freekizh]

Yep - and when I get there I'll be a top-tier free player.


This is not true. You are well and truly behind the top free players at the moment.

A camper compares well to players at there level usually, but not to good players who have spent the same time at the game who have leveled normally.

[rareay84]

This is not true. You are well and truly behind the top free players at the moment.I never claimed to be a top free player. I said when I get to the end game, I'll be one.


A camper compares well to players at there level usually, but not to good players who have spent the same time at the game who have leveled normally.So that's the deal - in KA, you compare yourself against players of similar level. I guess non-campers want to compare against other players based on time since game start - but I'm content comparing myself against what's on my battle list.

[The_Red]

I never claimed to be a top free player. I said when I get to the end game, I'll be one.


and you'll win a cookie.

[Freekizh]

I never claimed to be a top free player. I said when I get to the end game, I'll be one.

So that's the deal - in KA, you compare yourself against players of similar level. I guess non-campers want to compare against other players based on time since game start - but I'm content comparing myself against what's on my battle list.

You need to compare yourself with tops players now, because they are who you will need to beat when you get to the end game if you wanna be a top tier free end game player, not who the guys are on your rivals list. That is what i meant. So what I am saying is that you will never catchup, nor will you be a top tier player if you level up too late and play too slow and remain free.

Unless everyone stops playing and there are no new levels or maps. KA is not MW. This is the design of the game. I have nothing against camping but you should understand the limitations of your strategy.

[Crazy Canuck]

I Would be concidered a camper at the moment but that is soon to change. I just wanted to build up my income abit with 12 and 24 hour collection building at 1st and upgrade unit building before rushing in.

I rushed in on MW cuase of the events that started and i'm still playing catch up abit lol.

I don't have dream of ever being a top player just want to be able to survive and have good income that I can collect once/twice a day

[bripe1414]

540 an hour going up 100k every 2 weeks only to be increasing faster
810 581 331

[el_gringo]

I think the mechanics of KA make mid-term camping almost pointless compared to MW.

I've met a couple of campers on my way and they were cash cows. I was able to hit them repeatedly and profit off every hit, wheras the casualties in MW make me stay away from players with a similar strategy. The frequency and power (plus its immortality) of PVE loot equipment means that you can easily come up against people that no amount of camping means you will be able to defend against them without crippling yourself in terms of skill points for when you actually want to PVP or PVE. In pvp i can make 5k with a round of my 8 stamina points easily, with very few if any casualties.


You either have to be a long term camper available to by the best units and equipment at that level as soon as you hit that level, or do what raraey describes above, a short term camping strategy.

In short, unless you are playing the game with the specific aim of trying to get the highest IPH stat or keep your numbers of defeats down to as close to 0 as possible, its nowhere near as helpful to camp in KA as MW.

[Dewsy]

4013 IPH, level 55.

Just invested in some gems before the sale ends but can't build any gem buildings yet until my current one finishes. IPH will go up tomorrow though when I can build some gem money buildings. What would you guys recommend I build? All of the gem buildings or should I buy some chests/crates? Or possible save save some gems for future updates?

[ShawnBB]

I think the mechanics of KA make mid-term camping almost pointless compared to MW.

I've met a couple of campers on my way and they were cash cows. I was able to hit them repeatedly and profit off every hit, wheras the casualties in MW make me stay away from players with a similar strategy. The frequency and power (plus its immortality) of PVE loot equipment means that you can easily come up against people that no amount of camping means you will be able to defend against them without crippling yourself in terms of skill points for when you actually want to PVP or PVE. In pvp i can make 5k with a round of my 8 stamina points easily, with very few if any casualties.


You either have to be a long term camper available to by the best units and equipment at that level as soon as you hit that level, or do what raraey describes above, a short term camping strategy.

In short, unless you are playing the game with the specific aim of trying to get the highest IPH stat or keep your numbers of defeats down to as close to 0 as possible, its nowhere near as helpful to camp in KA as MW.


You need to compare yourself with tops players now, because they are who you will need to beat when you get to the end game if you wanna be a top tier free end game player, not who the guys are on your rivals list. That is what i meant. So what I am saying is that you will never catchup, nor will you be a top tier player if you level up too late and play too slow and remain free.

Unless everyone stops playing and there are no new levels or maps. KA is not MW. This is the design of the game. I have nothing against camping but you should understand the limitations of your strategy.

I'm so glad to hear some wise game recognition from you two :)
Well, since you guys have pointed it all out, I'm not gonna say too much more here.


For all campers from MW or CC, you guys should realize the difference of KA from the moment you saw the skill points distribution.
There is a 2 point cost on Hero Strength and there is no 1 point cost on energy upper bound increase anymore.
It's tells you, go PvE or camp and fall behind.
I'm wondering when you campers gonna catch up with top players who already looted 300 and more. 20+ stats end game armor and weapons

[Euchred]

I've farmed a ridiculous amount of good ol' non consumable equipment, feels like farming the M4 all over again but much more enjoyable. I feel bad for people missing out on this.

Just by farming and playing smart I have 37k def as a free player. With only 79 high priests.

[Dewsy]

I've farmed a ridiculous amount of good ol' non consumable equipment, feels like farming the M4 all over again but much more enjoyable. I feel bad for people missing out on this.

Just by farming and playing smart I have 37k def as a free player. With only 79 high priests.

May I ask what you farm? Or is it a secret? ;)

[ShawnBB]

I've farmed a ridiculous amount of good ol' non consumable equipment, feels like farming the M4 all over again but much more enjoyable. I feel bad for people missing out on this.

Just by farming and playing smart I have 37k def as a free player. With only 79 high priests.


How many mafias you have? 375 full? 100 density for a full mafia player is very impressive.
Seen anybody higher than your defense?

I still can't find any glitch spot that has a crazy drop rate :(

[Euchred]

Sorry I'm a bit protective of my farming locations, basically me and my brother both play at high level with max alliance and we just test everything until we find something good. I have the max equipment for max mafia but not all of it is farmed that will take a while. And ya there's a few people with crazy stats up here but they're all gem buyers a few 50k/50k plus players.

[BooMan]

Am new to this type of game so unsure of what a "camper" or a "farmer" is! Want to know if I am either....

I am a lvl 53, atk 10,990 def 11,284 iph 2,861 and a free player. I tend to concentrate more on mastering each area to lvl5 before moving on to the next (I have just started the Infested Cavern). I really only go for PvP attacks when my cash level approaches my vault limit and I cannot build, upgrade or expand anything (as you can only do one of each at a time which gets annoying!).

Does this mean I fit into one of these groupings? Thx....

[Freekizh]

Am new to this type of game so unsure of what a "camper" or a "farmer" is! Want to know if I am either....

I am a lvl 53, atk 10,990 def 11,284 iph 2,861 and a free player. I tend to concentrate more on mastering each area to lvl5 before moving on to the next (I have just started the Infested Cavern). I really only go for PvP attacks when my cash level approaches my vault limit and I cannot build, upgrade or expand anything (as you can only do one of each at a time which gets annoying!).

Does this mean I fit into one of these groupings? Thx....

In my view, anyone like you who is in 30-50s is not a camper by any stretch. Your level is higher than mine already, and I do not consider myself a camper.

It also depends upon how much you play and how long too. A camper is someone who Intentionally stays at their level overly long without any real reason except for stats (e.g., economy), to remain strong relative to their rivals to do so, and ultimately avoid any end game play. Typically has very low allies, avoids PvP and PVE (farming) generally to minimize XP. Camping is also called turtling.

A farmer is not a standard term, and in fact I would consider farming/questing pretty standard MO.

[BooMan]

Thx for the explaination!

Cheers....

[SeqWins]

Approaching 6k quicker faster than a hurry........

[GodlikeNay]

Currently sitting at 6K+ IpH.

The highest I've seen is 11,026 IpH from one of my allies. There is some serious spending going on there.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

IMO, KA is one of the games that played right, with a good strategy in mind while knowing the basic mechanics of the game, you don't ever really need to "camp" (maybe a day or two every few levels) to do pretty decent. While I make a decent living in real life, I don't get into buying a lot in-game, because it can get pretty obsessive and easy to keep spending. I did spend some to get some chests while there was a gem sale, but otherwise, no.

Personally, I'm having fun. I don't play the other two Funzio games, but I have played others and tended to get annihilated unless I was a camper and had a trillion dollars set aside and made a billion per hour.

Right now, no gems spent on buildings except one Apothecary (which was kind of a waste), I'm at A:10386 D:12969 IPH: 3508 and level 36.

[enahs1]

My income per hour on my main account is now 41xx and on my camping account is 39xx

[Great_wall2]

I'm at 5900, will surpass 6000 by tomorrow. Yes I've maxed cottages and have almost maxed farms so that is a big chunk of it, but I've built both manors and all money buildings. Very little camping and all free player.

[Later]

I'm nearly 9k Iph and it's mostly from low level money bldgs plus manors. I'm a camper but these events level me up fast.

[spectra]

i have seen a few gold spender that have over 11k IPH
I am at 5K and my vault is soon to be at 250k (I will soon be able to save to buy my second manor)

[Blizzard782]

Do people usually increase their income per hour by upgrading existing money buildings or purchasing more? Like manor etc.

[Freekizh]

Do people usually increase their income per hour by upgrading existing money buildings or purchasing more? Like manor etc.

Ideally you should be doing both at he same time. The question you should be asking is what type of upgrades you should be prioritizing in certain situations.

[SeqWins]

Hey Freek- go over to the MW forum and participate In our " Name the member" thread...

[Masterjojobinks]

Come on guys its not that hard, just time consuming. I have an IPH over 4K right now and 104K on hand. I only have four level 10 buildings. All my other buildings are level 5 or lower. My unit builds are level 5 or 6. By the way I am level 11 right now and I have not spend a dime of real money.

[Altz]

Theres some people with 22k income.

[MaverickMunkey]

Come on guys its not that hard, just time consuming. I have an IPH over 4K right now and 104K on hand. I only have four level 10 buildings. All my other buildings are level 5 or lower. My unit builds are level 5 or 6. By the way I am level 11 right now and I have not spend a dime of real money.

My plan was to get my unit buildings to the level that I wanted to build the army that I wanted and now I have done that I will be concentrating on leveling up my money buildings.

[figozz]

I am a free player. My IPH is in my signature (cant remember what it is)

I have stopped levelling money buildings at the moment, and I am working on upgrading unit buildings.

I have stopped attacking players also (for the time being), as I was getting fed up of the amount of units I was losing. I am at Tournament Quest 77 or something at the moment.

Once I have built my army to a decent level, then I will start PVP'ing again.

[figozz]

i have seen a few gold spender that have over 11k IPH
I am at 5K and my vault is soon to be at 250k (I will soon be able to save to buy my second manor)

Well you've not got your vault to 250k by being a free player. The OP was referring to IPH for free players.

[Hugh Bris]

22K??? Wow. Biggest I've seen was somewhere in the 70 levels with 16,800 per hour.

[rareay84]

I sold my stupid cottages and stopped levelling my farms at 5 because I will never come close to logging in every 30 friggin minutes. IPH $3588.

[Freekizh]

I sold my stupid cottages and stopped levelling my farms at 5 because I will never come close to logging in every 30 friggin minutes. IPH $3588.

Brave move bro..pumping up those things is a bit of a...cottage industry.

[SickDuck]

I sold my stupid cottages and stopped levelling my farms at 5 because I will never come close to logging in every 30 friggin minutes. IPH $3588.

That's too bad. The cottages are so cheap to upgrade that even if you dont collect very often, they pay for themselves after not too long.

[Dewsy]

I took the view that somewhere in the future we might have another IPH event and so upgrading the cottages would be a worthy investment, and lets be honest, they don't take that long to get to level 10.

Current IPH is 6663.

[Freekizh]

That's too bad. The cottages are so cheap to upgrade that even if you dont collect very often, they pay for themselves after not too long.

That may be true, but there are other benefits of not having high frequency payout buildings. I have noticed that my game is now much more relaxing when I focus on 12/24/48 hours buildings. These are much longer to upgrade, much easier to collect, less chance of becoming OCD, and more enjoyable as a result. I believe that a lot of stressed out players suffer burnout from all the cumulative stress of collecting money, events, etc.

Also longer duration money buildings are better for high level upgrading as they allow you to carry lower balances if synced properly, whereas cottages, farms, etc. force you to collect more often and therefore put you at risk for a longer period of time. Unless of course you wanna stop at a level 1 manor ...

[SeqWins]

....I just wanted my BEast Warren and Siege Workshop to 10(Wyverns and Catapults.)......SO after I got these to 10 I just touch money buildings..

[Freekizh]

....I just wanted my BEast Warren and Siege Workshop to 10(Wyverns and Catapults.)......SO after I got these to 10 I just touch money buildings..

That should last you a very long time..I'm 70s and I am still using really crap units.

[RandomUser]

That may be true, but there are other benefits of not having high frequency payout buildings. I have noticed that my game is now much more relaxing when I focus on 12/24/48 hours buildings. These are much longer to upgrade, much easier to collect, less chance of becoming OCD, and more enjoyable as a result. I believe that a lot of stressed out players suffer burnout from all the cumulative stress of collecting money, events, etc.

Also longer duration money buildings are better for high level upgrading as they allow you to carry lower balances if synced properly, whereas cottages, farms, etc. force you to collect more often and therefore put you at risk for a longer period of time. Unless of course you wanna stop at a level 1 manor ...

Different strokes for different folks...

Having a desk job and being efficient at it, I enjoy being able to check in during the day and having something to do every hour or 30 mins. It's not a huge amount at any one time, but it adds up over the course of a day. If I haven't checked in an hour, I'll always be guaranteed at minimum of 1.2k. No, I won't be able to upgrade my manors from what I collect off bazaars, but I can always buy some sort of unit if I like, and after I deplete my reserves, I can fill my vault back up fairly quickly.

But it's all because I have free time during the day that the obsessive aspect of repeated checking isn't an issue - it's a time killer.

[Freekizh]

Different strokes for different folks...

Having a desk job and being efficient at it, I enjoy being able to check in during the day and having something to do every hour or 30 mins. It's not a huge amount at any one time, but it adds up over the course of a day. If I haven't checked in an hour, I'll always be guaranteed at minimum of 1.2k. No, I won't be able to upgrade my manors from what I collect off bazaars, but I can always buy some sort of unit if I like, and after I deplete my reserves, I can fill my vault back up fairly quickly.

But it's all because I have free time during the day that the obsessive aspect of repeated checking isn't an issue - it's a time killer.

This is not a style issue, and i believe its a long term optimal path. The guys with monster IPH are the gem players with massive cash on hand that upgrades manors and other high output to level 4 etc. Most people don't have enough gold on hand that's all, or are ROI focused so they go for bazaars which is not always IPH maximizing.

[asdfg12345]

This is not a style issue, and i believe its a long term optimal path. The guys with monster IPH are the gem players with massive cash on hand that upgrades manors and other high output to level 4 etc. Most people don't have enough gold on hand that's all, or are ROI focused so they go for bazaars which is not always IPH maximizing.
Bazaars takes very little time to upgrade so its not like they waste too much time on it.

[Freekizh]

Bazaars takes very little time to upgrade so its not like they waste too much time on it.

You completely miss the point. If I have the choice to upgrade a bazaar that gives my $x per upgrade hour, and a manor which gives me $x+y per upgrade hour, I would go with the manor. Problem is that manor costs a crapload. So guys with low capital on hand go the suboptimal route from an IPH maximizing perspective. So you should go with the largest one you can afford not the best ROI.

[SirMW]

ROI could mean a different thing. Just to put things in a different perspective, has anyone look at ROI in term of upgrade time vs gold return per hour. Manor is the only one that consistently has a better return in term of time vs gold return per hour.
Capital is a big issue especially trying to upgrade a manor. I have a hard enough time building both manor.

[Bea]

ROI could mean a different thing. Just to put things in a different perspective, has anyone look at ROI in term of upgrade time vs gold return per hour. Manor is the only one that consistently has a better return in term of time vs gold return per hour.
Capital is a big issue especially trying to upgrade a manor. I have a hard enough time building both manor.

Yes there's a spreadsheet for that somewhere, so I expect lots of people consider gold increase per upgrade hour.

[Freekizh]

ROI could mean a different thing. Just to put things in a different perspective, has anyone look at ROI in term of upgrade time vs gold return per hour. Manor is the only one that consistently has a better return in term of time vs gold return per hour.
Capital is a big issue especially trying to upgrade a manor. I have a hard enough time building both manor.

ROI maximizes your liquidity usually since they are often small capex spend. Then the question is - why are you maximizing your liquidity and for what purpose?

Note that ROI really means return on investment and is a percentage term. The spreadsheets you see really define ROI incorrectly as a "break even" period, I.e, how many days of output to get your money back, which is sort of the inverse. With ROI you really want the highest yield possible, and with break-even period you want the lowest period possible.

[RandomUser]

Freekish,

Good points. I, too, don't believe ROI is the end-all, be-all in terms of money upgrade decisions. What I have done is factor in my average collection rate for each building in determining my daily money output - a real-world IPH number. I then compare the upgrade time against the daily output boost, also factoring in my lost revenue during the upgrade. Manors are generally the best investment option most of the time, but for frequent players, other options can be viable alternatives for inbetween manor upgrades. I, for one, do not have the kind of cash flow where I'm ready to upgrade a manor as soon as the last one is finished.

[SirMW]

Freekish,
Great point. To me, time is the most important factor. If I can only speed up the upgrade without spending Gems, lol.

What's the highest level of manor anyone have seen?

[asdfg12345]

Freekish,
Great point. To me, time is the most important factor. If I can only speed up the upgrade without spending Gems, lol.

What's the highest level of manor anyone have seen?
the best player under lvl 100 has a lvl 5 manor.

[Timbathia]

In both KA and CC I typically put everything into the 12/24 buildings early, and reinvest into their upgrades when they pay out. However, when I have spare cash or time on hand waiting for stuff, I do try and invest in the shorter payouts as well. I find them very convienient for events as I always earn enough short term cash in the hour to not have to keep any in the vault, as well as to replace any units killed in pvp.

[Great_wall2]

Right now I'm only upgrading in the shorter time frame buildings as it is fairly inexpensive and I want to increase my IPH number as high as possible in anticipation of another IPH event. It also allows me to reinvest my remaining funds into building my defense as I creep closer to Whale territory.

Go go bazaar upgrades! (Farms and Cottages are level 10)

[enahs1]

Camping account just hit 5044 gold per hour with about 530k unvaulted gold ;)

[Freekizh]

Camping account just hit 5044 gold per hour with about 530k unvaulted gold ;)

It's not the size of ur unvaulted gold, but wot u do with it that counts...

[Hapl0]

If they do an event about who has more unvaulted money, u could participate enahs1 ;)

[Timbathia]

Camping at the start would be such a great strategy if wasnt for the fact it is potentially the most boring way to spend time since being forced by your wife to go to the ballet.

[asdfg12345]

Camping at the start would be such a great strategy if wasnt for the fact it is potentially the most boring way to spend time since being forced by your wife to go to the ballet.
Most camping accounts are secondary accounts. I have one for mw while KA is my main game where i spend time on.

[enahs1]

I'm no longer camping... I am leveling up as quickly as possible

[Hapl0]

I am camping in MW and KA but my main game is KA too; MW is unfair, the first players could build advanced units since the beggining (not level capped).

Why are u leveling up so fast enahs1?

[enahs1]

Too unlock new buildings, I don't like camping

[Hapl0]

Ah ok, good reason, good look and be careful with the mini whales.

[MaverickMunkey]

I am camping in MW and KA but my main game is KA too; MW is unfair, the first players could build advanced units since the beggining (not level capped).

Why are u leveling up so fast enahs1?

I know how you feel with MW. I used to be on it all the time but am getting crucified by the whales so have near as dammit stopped play MW and concentrating on KA which I was able to start from the release.

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

I'm now officially over 5k an hour.

5001 IPH to be exact. :)

[Hapl0]

Congrats Legend!

Maverick, i have airfiel lvl10 and in lvl10 but i fear isn't enough and i will be massacrated as soon i lvlup.

[Great_wall2]

Almost breaking 7,000 should be there by tomorrow AM....

[emcee]

Surpassed 8000/hr on level 24 account a few days ago.
6990/hr on level 9 account.
Non gem player.

[ShawnBB]

I know how you feel with MW. I used to be on it all the time but am getting crucified by the whales so have near as dammit stopped play MW and concentrating on KA which I was able to start from the release.

Pal, time to quit MW.
Casualty glitchers attacking me non stop so the game is completely pointless now.
Everyone is having 2000 indestructible units,lmao. But I'm not...

High level gaming is broken in MW, that's why I quit.

[ShawnBB]

Surpassed 8000/hr on level 24 account a few days ago.
6990/hr on level 9 account.
Non gem player.

Stop showing pure iph. Forcing me to upgrade my useless farms to lvl 10 ffs............
How's your NC doing :)

[emcee]

Stop showing pure iph. Forcing me to upgrade my useless farms to lvl 10 ffs............
How's your NC doing :)
Lvl 10 farms are so 2008. Its all about the merchant caravans :)
2nd lvl 3 NC will finish in under 52 hours. Starting to save for lvl 4 NC in the meantime. Hopefully can get it in 2 weeks time.

[YLL]

Camping at the start would be such a great strategy if wasnt for the fact it is potentially the most boring way to spend time since being forced by your wife to go to the ballet.

Haha, wait, you don't enjoy the sight of scantily-clad nubile young ladies voluntarily and repeatedly stretching their legs wide in front of you? :0 ;)

[The_Legend_Shall_Live_On]

Haha, wait, you don't enjoy the sight of scantily-clad nubile young ladies voluntarily and repeatedly stretching their legs wide in front of you? :0 ;)

Wow -- we went from a mobile war game talking about gold income per hour and in one posting somehow got to this? lol

My farms and cottages are at 6; silo at 7 each; otherwise generally in the 2 - 4 range. I have all money buildings though. :)

[Gixxxah_Ridah]

I don't know how to post a pic of my profile so here is the info,

Level 8
Free player
IPH 3,528
Vault $165,000 upgrading to $250,000 will be complete in 112 hours
Allies 4
Attack - 476
Def - 335
Battles won - 222
Battles lost - 27 all in the beginning. Can't remember the last time I lost an attack
Non raids won or lost

Buildings

Barracks level 10
Siege workshop level 10
Beast Warren level 8
Magic academy level 3

Bazaar level 10 x 2 buildings
Bakery level 10 x 2 buildings
Silo level 5 x 2
Tailor level 5 x 2
Farm level 6 and 4
Library level 3 and 2
Tavern level 2 x 2
Castle level 3
Cottage (only 1) level 2

Land

I've expanded to 31 total squares. Next expansion is $65,000 gold coins and takes 48 hours. I have waaaaaay more land than I need right now.

[Ralooney]

My iph is 4813. I don't really see why there is so much negative talk about bazaars. Both my bazaars are level 10 which gives me 1500 an hour from them and i collect from them anywhere from 13-16 times a day which averages out to about 22,500 gold a day. In two days that means they give me about 45,000 which is more than 2 manors would give me and the upgrades cost less than building 2 manors as well. But if you can only log on and collect only a few times a day then I understand why bazars wouldn't be very optimal.

[SeqWins]

5k IPH? That's like a month old?

So who is 7K now muahahahahahaha:cool:

[SeqWins]

I don't know how to post a pic of my profile so here is the info,

Level 8
Free player
IPH 3,528
Vault $165,000 upgrading to $250,000 will be complete in 112 hours
Allies 4
Attack - 476
Def - 335
Battles won - 222
Battles lost - 27 all in the beginning. Can't remember the last time I lost an attack
Non raids won or lost

Buildings

Barracks level 10
Siege workshop level 10
Beast Warren level 8
Magic academy level 3

Bazaar level 10 x 2 buildings
Bakery level 10 x 2 buildings
Silo level 5 x 2
Tailor level 5 x 2
Farm level 6 and 4
Library level 3 and 2
Tavern level 2 x 2
Castle level 3
Cottage (only 1) level 2

Land

I've expanded to 31 total squares. Next expansion is $65,000 gold coins and takes 48 hours. I have waaaaaay more land than I need right now.

What's your name in KA? Do you have any money out of vault? hehe

[enahs1]

Hey seq, I have 558,490 unvaulted ;)

[SeqWins]

Hey seq, I have 558,490 unvaulted ;)

I don't think I can reach you......:(

[Good ol' Nick]

5k IPH? That's like a month old?

So who is 7K now muahahahahahaha:cool:
I'm at 4.3k and proud! *chants: "mod-er-A-tion! Mod-er-A-tion!"*
It's quite silly, but I don't have all buildings built because the clutter would make my kingdom look cramped and ugly. Call me crazy. :P

[ShawnBB]

5k IPH? That's like a month old?

So who is 7K now muahahahahahaha:cool:

Right here with you !
Miami got the champ, why would you change avatar:(

[Freekizh]

Right here with you !
Miami got the champ, why would you change avatar:(

Not bad pal..impressive for whale territory too!

[ShawnBB]

Not bad pal..impressive for whale territory too!

Hehe, miss you mate.
Haven't met any whales in two weeks. Dare to finish the second manor finally.
I'm now leaving 50000 unvault gold as a bait and no shark interested...
Full HPs really kicking some asses.
if things go as anticipated, lvl2 manor is coming soon.

[Great_wall2]

7100 IPH here now

[ShawnBB]

Just reviewed the spreed sheet, didn't realize that manor is having such a super value.
Its IPH/ROI ratio is so high that can even compete the early buildings, incredible.

[Futon]

6011 or so

[Gixxxah_Ridah]

Seq it's in my signature, it's Sir William Wallace and yes I do have lots of money unvaulted. You're too high to see me I bet. Others have tried to take my cash money and failed! I think I have pretty impressive stats and I have an army of all the strongest units waiting for me to accept all the ally invites I have. My attack and defense score could easily exceed 2-3,000 with the accepted invites and army that is already purchased and waiting.

[Hapl0]

Gixxxah, amazing vault, i think maybe i saw ur name before, btw Seq is lvl8 too.

[Gixxxah_Ridah]

Thanks I appreciate it. The vault is taking forever. It's going to feel good to have it up to 250,000 but I don't know what the max is. Is it a million?

Ohhhh seq is lvl 8 huh, oh boy he might swing by for a visit haha. Well I only have 4 allies currently and really don't want to have to accept those invites but if I have to in order to beat his ass I will. Haha

[SeqWins]

Right here with you !
Miami got the champ, why would you change avatar:(

I made a promise that when we won the Chip I would change it...we played a game a over in the MW forum about naming the names of the pictures we were posting and a lot of people though I was black because of my avatar.....therefore changed it.

[Hapl0]

Gixxxah, the max vault is 330,000 gold.

[SeqWins]

Gixxxah, the max vault is 330,000 gold.

Really? Damn should be done with my max vault in under 98 hours.......

[Hapl0]

Gixxxah, if u think that a/d near 3,000 is enough in lvl8 may indicate that u don't check the stats of all the players near you.

[Dreno33]

wow 5k income is a lot for KA, eh? huge difference how they make your IPH in the 3 games. MW can get inflated quickly but CC can and will give a bigger IPH later on. KA is WAY down below. interesting.

I don't play KA, just stopped by(: CIAO!

[YLL]

I don't play KA, just stopped by(: CIAO!

You really should play KA, it's a far more interesting game than MW if you're into strategy. :)

[Dreno33]

You really should play KA, it's a far more interesting game than MW if you're into strategy. :)

i tried when it first launched, the bast@rd never loaded and only ever crashed. never even started the tutorial. took it as a sign that 2 funzio games was enough for me(:

[YLL]

Admittedly, KA was extremely buggy to begin with - I even posted at some point that KA was the buggiest app I've ever had on my iPhone. There's still bugs, but the app is now much better. Do give it a try. :)

[Gixxxah_Ridah]

Gixxxah, if u think that a/d near 3,000 is enough in lvl8 may indicate that u don't check the stats of all the players near you.

Yeah honestly I don't. In case youve missed my stats, I have done zero PVP and zero raids. I've been increasing my iph and maxing out my unit buildings and buying all the best units that I can for now, and expanding my base and increasing my vault. I have been on hard camping mode because this is a secondary game for me, I'm more into play MW on the reg and just doing KA as a 2nd game.

Slow and steady on KA and one of these days I'll turn the switch on and start rapidly growing

[The_Red]

Yeah honestly I don't. In case youve missed my stats, I have done zero PVP and zero raids. I've been increasing my iph and maxing out my unit buildings and buying all the best units that I can for now, and expanding my base and increasing my vault. I have been on hard camping mode because this is a secondary game for me, I'm more into play MW on the reg and just doing KA as a 2nd game.

Slow and steady on KA and one of these days I'll turn the switch on and start rapidly growing

I think you'll be left behind because of the lack of collecting good weapons/armor for your army.