Gold Sale?

[deuces]

We've passed Thursday evening now, the time gold sales usually start. I believe we're over 3 weeks now since the last one started, and without one since the purchase of Funzio by Gree.

We/I have become accustomed to these sales, and i personally havent purchased non sale gold in 3+ months. I dont plan to either, and the game is quite stale when you see tiny stat increases over long periods due to not spending gold.

With all the changes to the negative since the Gree takeover (not all Grees fault im sure, like the beta stuff) I dont think i will change my stance on buying gold at 100% rather than 80%. This means if there arent gold sales, I wont buy gold, and will quit much sooner than I would have otherwise.

At least the old funzio would cover up their faux pas with gold sales or new exciting content. Now all we have is strictly negatives with no positives.

Hopefully a gold sale starts today and I'll be happy and my interest in this game will last another few weeks. If not, i may have an account for sale/transfer :)

[sexkitteh]

Funzio Staff Member #1: OMG WE ARE GOING TO LOSE DEUCES IF WE DON'T GIVE HIM A GOLD SALE!!!!!

Funzio Staff Member #2: Dowho?

Funzio Staff Member #1: He is this guy riiiiiiiight *flips through endless pages of gold spender* here! This guy... GoldSpender #315820... he want's a gold sale... or he's quitting....

Funzio Staff Member #2: o_0

[sexkitteh]

I do agree with you tho deuce... I will buy gold on the next gold sale... and nothing before that...

[Rhino72]

The last gold sale was ending right around 4/29 - 4/30. I agree with you Deuces that I will not be buying anymore gold unless we have sales. I don't feel like quitting but I am comfortable in the fact that I will just keep saving RP and if I don't get the event item so be it.

[deuces]

Ya, i wasnt sure of the dates, but it definitely started 3 weeks and a day ago, which is the longest in recent memory. I believe they've started on thursday for the last 3+ months so we're looking at 4 weeks min.

And kitteh, clearly im irrelevant, have never thought otherwise. This is a place we share our opinions and feelings, tis what i was doing.

[sexkitteh]

I know deuces ^^

I'm just bored and felt like joking around...

[koralene]

Funzio come on... bring it on. I promise to purchase at least 10 vaults in the gold sale. :p

[dudeman]

Funzio come on... bring it on. I promise to purchase at least 10 vaults in the gold sale. :p

Can I have one of them? :p

[sexkitteh]

10 vaults?! holymolybatman...

either you make a ridiculous amount of money... like ridiculous amounts...

oooor you have a terrible addiction/money mgnt skills lolzzzzz

[koralene]

my pay is crap... not addicted. i have other means. lol

[Nudie]

Money isn't yours until you spend it. :D

[Whoopdido1980]

This the the epitome of what's wrong with the US's economy. We'll never fully recover if consumers always refuse to pay full price. How can a business survive if they constantly take a 20% hit to their revenue?

In the past, businesses would offer discounts during off times. Monday nights or weekdays from 2-4 or whatever. Now people expect discounts all the time even on weekends. How can we ever recover with that mindset? A vault of gold doesn't cost $80. It costs $100. Every now and then they do us a favor and reduce the cost to $80. You seem to expect it to always be $80. It's that same mindset that expects drinks to be at happy hour prices at 9 pm on. Saturday and for movie tickets to be at matinee prices all the time. When did this thinking start and when will it end?

[Killy billy]

This the the epitome of what's wrong with the US's economy. We'll never fully recover if consumers always refuse to pay full price. How can a business survive if they constantly take a 20% hit to their revenue?

In the past, businesses would offer discounts during off times. Monday nights or weekdays from 2-4 or whatever. Now people expect discounts all the time even on weekends. How can we ever recover with that mindset? A vault of gold doesn't cost $80. It costs $100. Every now and then they do us a favor and reduce the cost to $80. You seem to expect it to always be $80. It's that same mindset that expects drinks to be at happy hour prices at 9 pm on. Saturday and for movie tickets to be at matinee prices all the time. When did this thinking start and when will it end?
Keep in mind that funzio only have to give us pixels in exchange for our real money!
Almost every dollar/euro/pound they get is pure profit, so it probably won't hurt them if they do these discounts.

[Whoopdido1980]

Keep in mind that funzio only have to give us pixels in exchange for our real money!
Almost every dollar/euro/pound they get is pure profit, so it probably won't hurt them if they do these discounts.

Well we have no idea of their cost structure. Sure they don't have cost of product like a restaurant does or a business like that but obviously they still have to pay their programmers and however many other people on their payroll and of course there's the rent they have to pay for their offices and utilities and all that stuff. Somewhere along the way they decided that $100 was the appropriate cost for a vault of gold given their cost structure and that price would ultimately allow them to earn a profit they were comfortable with. Just like McDonald's came up with the appropriate price for a hamburger. I doubt either business would want to just slash the price they think they need to get for their product by 20%.

[Dravak]

here untill they lower the crates prices , which will never happen ...
Or give a valid explanation for the crate price drop .... again won't happen ...

I have decided to buy no gold .... since no gold for me is no fun ;) .
I guess only thing to do is winning it ... so 26 more thug life yeah ...

20% off bleh want 40% off , so also not happening .

Ah well we all can't have what we want .

[Paulio]

This the the epitome of what's wrong with the US's economy. We'll never fully recover if consumers always refuse to pay full price. How can a business survive if they constantly take a 20% hit to their revenue?

In the past, businesses would offer discounts during off times. Monday nights or weekdays from 2-4 or whatever. Now people expect discounts all the time even on weekends. How can we ever recover with that mindset? A vault of gold doesn't cost $80. It costs $100. Every now and then they do us a favor and reduce the cost to $80. You seem to expect it to always be $80. It's that same mindset that expects drinks to be at happy hour prices at 9 pm on. Saturday and for movie tickets to be at matinee prices all the time. When did this thinking start and when will it end?

That's actually not at all what's wrong with the US economy - the problem with our economy is greed and lack of financial literacy, not frugality ... but that's another discussion entirely. Let me try to explain how sales/discounts can be beneficial to a business:

For simplicity sake, suppose Funzio sells 1,000 vaults of gold per week at the regular price of $100 (1,000 vaults x $100 = $100,000 in revenue).

If they discount the price by 20%, what is the break-even point for Funzio? 1,250 vaults, which is a 25% increase in sales. (1,250 vaults x $80 = $100,000 in revenue).

So in our example, if the 20% discount spurs greater than 25% increase in sales, it's a win-win for Funzio and gold spenders.

[Joeycool]

Last time I checked the USA had the strongest economy in the world?

[joaquim]

Last time I checked the USA had the strongest economy in the world?

That is true but I read a news report online saying that China would overtake the USA in a few years as the biggest economy in the world.

[Joeycool]

That is true but I read a news report online saying that China would overtake the USA in a few years as the biggest economy in the world.

That may be so. At the moment the GDP of the US is more than twice the value of the next country (that is in fact China) and people were commenting with the "problems" in the US economy.

Ironic?

[joaquim]

That may be so. At the moment the GDP of the US is more than twice the value of the next country (that is in fact China) and people were commenting with the "problems" in the US economy.

Ironic?

I blame all of the USA's problems, fake and real, on Obama. If he wins re-election the world will surely end December 21 of this year.

[Plumbernick9]

Gold sale please. Put me down for 3 vaults of gold.

[mnju_03]

I'm good. Thanks though.

[Vile Lynn]

I don't know why any of you would want to give any more money to a company that can't pull it's head out of it's...

neck.

[Quirt]

I don't know why any of you would want to give any more money to a company that can't pull it's head out of it's...

neck.

LOL :-D

I just joined this game in April --- bought gold on sale on April 28th --- didn't know how often they had sales -- but kinda glad they aren't more often since I'm a sucker for a sale :-D
Anyway gold might not be "on" sale but its "for" sale :-D LOL

[2Legit]

I don't know why any of you would want to give any more money to a company that can't pull it's head out of it's...

neck.

I so agree wit u....I'm surprised u ppl r still willing to spend money from all the things that's been happening...

Go to a casino and waste ur money there...at least theres 50% chance u'll hit the jackpot...unlike here...u get nothing in return...even the support is gettin suckier every min >.<

[Quirt]

I so agree wit u....I'm surprised u ppl r still willing to spend money from all the things that's been happening with this game...

Go to a casino and waste ur money there...at least theres 50% chance u'll hit the jackpot...unlike here >.<

WTF?!?! 50% chance of winning the jackpot?!?!? Quick tell me what casino this is :D

[2Legit]

WTF?!?! 50% chance of winning the jackpot?!?!? Quick tell me what casino this is :D

ok im exaggerating, but u know what i mean....theres still a reward u get than trash talking another avatar online :D

[Quirt]

LOL But I like your avatar :) And I like exaggerating too -- I do it a few trillion times a day ;)

[Tramp Stamp]

This the the epitome of what's wrong with the US's economy. We'll never fully recover if consumers always refuse to pay full price. How can a business survive if they constantly take a 20% hit to their revenue?

You are correct but not for the reasons you state. As income increases, the benefits of frugality decreases. This is readily observable in people who scale lifestyle along with means. Part of this is higher earners buying more things but another is them supporting higher margins through reduced frugality. Taken to an extreme, frugality can actually cost high earners in terms of time expended.

You didn't state where you expect the surplus funds to come from, but I suspect you mean one or both of supporting higher margins through reduction of savings or acquisition of less goods and services. Either way, it demonstrates that the middle class no longer has sufficient buying power to easily afford disposable activities and thus is willing to do without if paying the "sale" price is not an option.

[Feng1234]

Tramp Stamp? Now that's worthy of a thread itself!

[Dravak]

I don't know why any of you would want to give any more money to a company that can't pull it's head out of it's...

neck.


Good question , now not to be a ass about it , but a company either lost your trust , or it hasn't .
Guess in modern times , there is way too much grey area .

So guess the majority wants to hope that things will improve , but then again ask yourself what you are doing !
With that statement , and you got your own answer .

Sorry funzio maybe lost it for me , but they can still regain trust with the majority it seems .
Sadly I doubt it will happen .

[dudeman]

I don't know why any of you would want to give any more money to a company that can't pull it's head out of it's...

neck.

+1. A thousand times +1.

[Max Power]

Well we have no idea of their cost structure. Sure they don't have cost of product like a restaurant does or a business like that but obviously they still have to pay their programmers and however many other people on their payroll and of course there's the rent they have to pay for their offices and utilities and all that stuff. Somewhere along the way they decided that $100 was the appropriate cost for a vault of gold given their cost structure and that price would ultimately allow them to earn a profit they were comfortable with. Just like McDonald's came up with the appropriate price for a hamburger. I doubt either business would want to just slash the price they think they need to get for their product by 20%.

Manufacturers don't set prices, consumers do. Unless there is a monopoly or collusion on a commodity that people can't live without, that is always the case. If everybody thinks $99 is too much, Funzio adjusts or goes away. That is the very basis of capitalism.

Besides, any savvy manufacturer sets false retails so that sale prices are very sustainable to them. Un-Savvy ones go away. That's how the system is supposed to work.

[DenZ1]

Manufacturers don't set prices, consumers do. Unless there is a monopoly or collusion on a commodity that people can't live without, that is always the case. If everybody thinks $99 is too much, Funzio adjusts or goes away. That is the very basis of capitalism.

Besides, any savvy manufacturer sets false retails so that sale prices are very sustainable to them. Un-Savvy ones go away. That's how the system is supposed to work.
Kinda true. Still thing is overpriced.

[2Legit]

Why yo so stooopidddddd??

A Note From Funzio:
Spending gold is banned...all u ppl r caught off...spend ur money elsewhere!!

[Dangerous Greg]

Between Tramp Stamp and 2Legit's avatar there is enough reason alone to follow the forums! My girlfriend even likes them! :-)

[DenZ1]

So.. Any gold sale anytime soon? I'm kinda tired of waiting. I'm not buying any till it's on sale :)
Has been a while since last one, or was it "THE last one"? I hope not cause that's mean that is it for me.. :(

[deuces]

Ya i realized the people in this thread were right. If im not comfortable paying the 100% price, and am waiting a month+ to buy at a sale price, I just shouldnt be buying gold :) Its not a money thing for me, i was happy to be spending for entertainment. Its no longer entertaining, and with summer/WSOP coming up, i wont have much time for the game.

Who knows, maybe it'll be exciting again in a couple months.

[kykboxr]

My girlfriend even likes them! :-)

She's a keeper!

[Rhino72]

Ya i realized the people in this thread were right. If im not comfortable paying the 100% price, and am waiting a month+ to buy at a sale price, I just shouldnt be buying gold :) Its not a money thing for me, i was happy to be spending for entertainment. Its no longer entertaining, and with summer/WSOP coming up, i wont have much time for the game.

Who knows, maybe it'll be exciting again in a couple months.

The exciting thing now is actually waiting for the gold sale. If it doesn't come so be it and I will become that more excited. Either we get a sale and I buy some gold or we don't get a sale and I don't buy any gold. Win win for me but not really for people who really care about gold sales.

[Yahkin]

Manufacturers don't set prices, consumers do. Unless there is a monopoly or collusion on a commodity that people can't live without, that is always the case. If everybody thinks $99 is too much, Funzio adjusts or goes away. That is the very basis of capitalism.

Besides, any savvy manufacturer sets false retails so that sale prices are very sustainable to them. Un-Savvy ones go away. That's how the system is supposed to work.

Hello fellow capitalist. It is nice to meet another in one of these games. Not many exist. lol

I used to rule the economy on the EQ2 server I played on. People would accuse me of gouging, of not being "fair", and I would try to explain to them that I simply priced things at what the market would bear. Mostly deaf ears.

[Chukuli]

I rather spend the money on Diablo 3 collector edition. :)
I believe Funzio won't be having a gold sale for a very long time.
Remember Gree need to make money in full amount to cover their loses in Japan.

[DenZ1]

I rather spend the money on Diablo 3 collector edition. :)
I believe Funzio won't be having a gold sale for a very long time.
Remember Gree need to make money in full amount to cover their loses in Japan.

They are having losses?

[Max Power]

I rather spend the money on Diablo 3 collector edition. :)
I believe Funzio won't be having a gold sale for a very long time.
Remember Gree need to make money in full amount to cover their loses in Japan.

It is possible to make more money by having a sale, especially when the item being sold has no physical properties.

Why do you think they have sales in the first place? To reduce profits?

[DenZ1]

It is possible to make more money by having a sale, especially when the item being sold has no physical properties.

Why do you think they have sales in the first place? To reduce profits?
+1 to capitalist :) This sale will bring them way more that if its no sale.

[Dangerous Greg]

So, it's Thursday night...when do gold sales start normally? Does anybody know exactly?

[Rhino72]

So, it's Thursday night...when do gold sales start normally? Does anybody know exactly?

No set pattern with gold sales. The last one ended on 4/30 so it has been 4 weeks. Hold on and be strong. If sales are down we should expect some kind of sale soon. If sales are not down then maybe we don't get another sale and you need to decide if you want to pay full price.

[Dangerous Greg]

I'll hold tight. I just thought the last few started Thursday night but I didn't know what time. Between the higher price crates and no gold sales recently Im hoping people vote by not buying....
Time will tell....I have patience.

[Rhino72]

I'll hold tight. I just thought the last few started Thursday night but I didn't know what time. Between the higher price crates and no gold sales recently Im hoping people vote by not buying....
Time will tell....I have patience.

So do I and I know a few others. We shall see

[DenZ1]

I'm one of others :)