Oil Rig?

[Hassleham]

Just wandering what level peoples Oil Rigs are compared to income per hour so that i can come up with a realistic goal.

[War Priest]

Both mine are still at 1 and i am at 398K per hour. :D

[Hassleham]

That's surprising! What would you say is your best income building then?

[JohnnyR]

Both level 3 and at 240k per hour, lol. As you can see supply depots and armories are not a part of my strategy.

[War Priest]

That's surprising! What would you say is your best income building then?

Electric Plants. They aren't upgraded to 10 yet but those will always be my favorite. When it produces 240K an hour x 2 that will be great!

[Hassleham]

Electric Plants. They aren't upgraded to 10 yet but those will always be my favorite. When it produces 240K an hour x 2 that will be great!
yeah i was thinking about that the other day but i'd never get there without gold haha.

[War Priest]

yeah i was thinking about that the other day but i'd never get there without gold haha.

Without gold? They cost cash...

[Bronson]

Electric Plants. They aren't upgraded to 10 yet but those will always be my favorite. When it produces 240K an hour x 2 that will be great!

Mine too!! As soon as I get the cash I'll be popping one up to lvl 4

[Hassleham]

@War Priest - Doesn't the final upgrade cost over $50 million? I'm in a hurry so i can't check the spreadsheet right now.

[Bronson]

@War Priest - Doesn't the final upgrade cost over $50 million? I'm in a hurry so i can't check the spreadsheet right now.

I couldn't answer that but to get to 4 it's just over 10m

[War Priest]

@War Priest - Doesn't the final upgrade cost over $50 million? I'm in a hurry so i can't check the spreadsheet right now.

I don't know. I would have to get out my flashdrive and check.

[Hassleham]

Well $50M isn't really realistic for me as a free player, and if i was going to try and save up that much for a building it would be one with a longer cash-spawn so that i could maximise it's potential.

[War Priest]

Well $50M isn't really realistic for me as a free player, and if i was going to try and save up that much for a building it would be one with a longer cash-spawn so that i could maximise it's potential.

240K every hour is much better than a lot of the other buildings. A building producing 10M every two days is nothing compaired to what the Electric Plant will give you in that time. Then again, it depends on how often you log in.

[SirMW]

In the process of going to level 3.
I'm still thinking of a strategy on how to get it up to level 4 since it's going to cost 20 mil with a level 9 cement factory. I can fend off about 95% of the attack but it's the 5% mainly gold player that I'm concern with.
I will not sell any of my building at 50% lost. I rather take my chances with the 5% player that can beat me, lol.

[Dreno33]

its only unlocked at lvl 25?!?!?!?! SWEET!!!!!!!!!!! ill get mine to 10 i think! pop those babies out and level den up ASAP and have two lvl 10 EPPs before lvl 30(: thats still low enough to hide underneath MOST gold buyers. a few might hit me tho

My spreadsheet (the one EnjoyLife made) doesn't have the info. ima go check itzkakarots

EDIT: found it on itzkakarots spreadsheet (estimates only)

UPGRADE COSTS
1) $2,400,000
2) $4,000,000
3) $6,666,667
4) $11,111,111
5) $18,518,519
6) $30,864,198
7) $51,440,329
8) $85,733,882
9) $142,889,803
10) $238,149,672

i guess i WONT be leveling these up to ten after all.... :'(

[SirMW]

@Dreno33
I think your spreadsheet may be off by a few millions.

[Dreno33]

@Dreno33
I think your spreadsheet may be off by a few millions.

its itzkakarot's. and your post better mean a few millions HIGHER than what it should be, bc if you say lower I might just kill ya, lol

[War Priest]

I like how this conversation went from the Oil Rig to the Electric Plant. :)

[SirMW]

Sorry, thought you were referring to oil rig but you were referring to the Electric Power Plant.
I have no interest to upgrade the EPP; however, I do need advise or strategy on upgrading an oil rig from level 3 to 4 since it's going to cost about 21 millions. I can probably defend about 95% of the attackers.

[JohnnyR]

Sorry, thought you were referring to oil rig but you were referring to the Electric Power Plant.
I have no interest to upgrade the EPP; however, I do need advise or strategy on upgrading an oil rig from level 3 to 4 since it's going to cost about 21 millions. I can probably defend about 95% of the attackers.

About the cost of a nano then. There are quite a few posts detailing strateties on saving major amounts of money buried in the nano threads, check em out. Buying and selling palm trees or defense towers is popular, as is lining up all the bosses from each map ya got till they each have one hit left and then and hitting em all at once with your full energy bar.

[Everson25]

About the cost of a nano then. There are quite a few posts detailing strateties on saving major amounts of money buried in the nano threads, check em out. Buying and selling palm trees or defense towers is popular, as is lining up all the bosses from each map ya got till they each have one hit left and then and hitting em all at once with your full energy bar. it was what I was thinking about it, specially he said he can beat 95% of other players on his level. Maybe I'm wrong as I'm not the e pert here.

[Dreno33]

anyone get the oil refinery to lvl 10? its only 39m from 9 to 10. for the output thats amazingly cheap (tho it isn't cheap, lol)

anyways, anyone get it? i think i might be able to. its unlocked at lvl 22. thats very low and I might stand a chance

[SirMW]

Yea, I have been testing my defense by keeping around 11 millions cash just to see who can actually take a piece of it. Most people end up leaving some cash behind, lol.

I can't hit the big bosses as I like to control the type of units in my army. Selling palm tree might be an idea...just hope I don't go crazy trying to raise a few millions by selling palm trees.

[Everson25]

Yea, I have been testing my defense by keeping around 11 millions cash just to see who can actually take a piece of it. Most people end up leaving some cash behind, lol.

I can't hit the big bosses as I like to control the type of units in my army. Selling palm tree might be an idea...just hope I don't go crazy trying to raise a few millions by selling palm trees. Once again I'm not the expert here but I will always be against to sell sth and lose 50%. I still prefer the risk to go for all money thinking that I can do it before someone attacks me.

[EnjoyLife]

Just wandering what level peoples Oil Rigs are compared to income per hour so that i can come up with a realistic goal.

Level 6 & Level 5 Oil Rigs. I'm just over 500k/hour

[EnjoyLife]

Well $50M isn't really realistic for me as a free player, and if i was going to try and save up that much for a building it would be one with a longer cash-spawn so that i could maximise it's potential.

My level 6 Oil Rig cost more than that and I'm a free player. You can't use that as your excuse.

[War Priest]

My level 6 Oil Rig cost more than that and I'm a free player. You can't use that as your excuse.

Haha! You showed him up. :p

[EnjoyLife]

anyone get the oil refinery to lvl 10? its only 39m from 9 to 10. for the output thats amazingly cheap (tho it isn't cheap, lol)

anyways, anyone get it? i think i might be able to. its unlocked at lvl 22. thats very low and I might stand a chance

Are you positive it's only 39m to upgrade that from level 9 to 10?

[Arizona]

Just wandering what level peoples Oil Rigs are compared to income per hour so that i can come up with a realistic goal.

Both at Level 2 and 451k/hr I'll move on to Level 3 within a week.

They're good value I think. Cheap enough to upgrade with a good payout. Just sync them to a time you can collect, or someone else will.

[Hassleham]

My level 6 Oil Rig cost more than that and I'm a free player. You can't use that as your excuse.

Well the reason I made this thread was to find information like that out. So thanks :p

[EnjoyLife]

Well the reason I made this thread was to find information like that out. So thanks :p

No problems. Upgrading my Nanos and my one geothermal in the next few upgrades before going to level 7 on the oil rig :)

[Arizona]

Are you positive it's only 39m to upgrade that from level 9 to 10?

I'd say that's about right. Don't be mistaking it for an "Oil Rig" though. That'd be more like 350m or more for L10.

[EnjoyLife]

I'd say that's about right. Don't be mistaking it for an "Oil Rig" though. That'd be more like 350m or more for L10.

Well, my calculations suggest you are both way off. I will be intrigued to see who is closer. I am thinking it will be around $140,000,000 to upgrade the Oil Refinery from level 9 to level 10 with no discounts.

[EnjoyLife]

I also think the Oil Rig will be about $480,000,000 to upgrade from Level 9 to Level 10

[Arizona]

Well, my calculations suggest you are both way off. I will be intrigued to see who is closer. I am thinking it will be around $140,000,000 to upgrade the Oil Refinery from level 9 to level 10 with no discounts.

That's what I got too, but for the RIG. I'm guessing
Level 9 230m
Level 10 350 to 370m

I think Dreno is talking about the refinery on land and that's the one i think going to be around 60-100m from L9-L10

[EnjoyLife]

That's what I got too, but for the RIG. I'm guessing
Level 9 230m
Level 10 350 to 370m

I think Dreno is talking about the refinery on land and that's the one i think going to be around 60-100m from L9-L10

Oil Refinery level 10 is about $140m
Oil Rig level 10 is about $480m

[Arizona]

Oil Refinery level 10 is about $140m
Oil Rig level 10 is about $480m

Seems a bit expensive, but what the hell. Wait and see:)

What price was your latest oil rig upgrade?

[EnjoyLife]

Level 7 Oil Rig costs 97m with no discounts. My Level 6 cost me 52.2m but without discounts it would cost 58m.

[EnjoyLife]

Seems a bit expensive, but what the hell. Wait and see:)

What price was your latest oil rig upgrade?

My calculations were based on what the storage silo and munitions stockpile level 10s were. If you have a better formula, I would gladly entertain it.

[Arizona]

Level 7 Oil Rig costs 97m with no discounts. My Level 6 cost me 52.2m but without discounts it would cost 58m.

Thanks. I'm curious to get these two upgraded to 10.

[spectra]

Just wandering what level peoples Oil Rigs are compared to income per hour so that i can come up with a realistic goal.
Mine are at level 2, lv3 would cost just over 12 mil
IPH 283k

FINALLY I AM BUILDING MY FIRST NANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! feels so good :)

[Arizona]

My calculations were based on what the storage silo and munitions stockpile level 10s were. If you have a better formula, I would gladly entertain it.

I was just using rough estimates from some of the spreadsheet data. I've noticed; the sum of the preceding two levels is around 96% the price of the next level. With the numbers you gave me I made a rough estimate that a L10 rig is more in the region of 448m. but I haven't spent a lot of time analyzing all the data. Whatever the price, it's more than the vault capacity.

[EnjoyLife]

I was just using rough estimates from some of the spreadsheet data. I've noticed; the sum of the preceding two levels is around 96% the price of the next level. With the numbers you gave me I made a rough estimate that a L10 rig is more in the region of 448m. but I haven't spent a lot of time analyzing all the data. Whatever the price, it's more than the vault capacity.

You formula isn't horrible for getting close. Let's use it in the example of Oil Refineries.

We know Oil Refineries have these values:
Level 1 1,400,000 cost
Level 2 2,400,000 cost
Level 3 4,000,000 cost

Using your math, these would be the following costs for the rest of the levels for Oil Refineries:
Level 4 6,666,667 cost
Level 5 11,166,667 cost
Level 6 18,725,000 cost
Level 7 31,386,250 cost
Level 8 52,616,813 cost
Level 9 88,203,216 cost
Level 10 147,861,030 cost

Using your formula, I come up with Level 10 costing almost $148,000,000

I guessed $140,000,000 and you said that 39m was about right in post #32. Your formula actually made it farther from your original thought than my formula did.

[Hassleham]

Wow, from all this info it looks like i'll be keeping both my Oil Rigs on level 3 for a while!

I'm currently level 49 with $303k/hr income. Do people think it's worth buying the space stations at level 50 or buying upgrades on other buildings?
I will of course definitely buy space stations eventually but i'm just wondering with my income if it's better to upgrade other buildings..

[EnjoyLife]

Wow, from all this info it looks like i'll be keeping both my Oil Rigs on level 3 for a while!

I'm currently level 49 with $303k/hr income. Do people think it's worth buying the space stations at level 50 or buying upgrades on other buildings?
I will of course definitely buy space stations eventually but i'm just wondering with my income if it's better to upgrade other buildings..

Buy them when you can, but keep upgrading ALWAYS. There are cheaper upgrades you can always find, even if they are that great of upgrades. It will always help in the long run

[Arizona]

You formula isn't horrible for getting close. Let's use it in the example of Oil Refineries.

We know Oil Refineries have these values:
Level 1 1,400,000 cost
Level 2 2,400,000 cost
Level 3 4,000,000 cost

Using your math, these would be the following costs for the rest of the levels for Oil Refineries:
Level 4 6,666,667 cost
Level 5 11,166,667 cost
Level 6 18,725,000 cost
Level 7 31,386,250 cost
Level 8 52,616,813 cost
Level 9 88,203,216 cost
Level 10 147,861,030 cost

Using your formula, I come up with Level 10 costing almost $148,000,000

I guessed $140,000,000 and you said that 39m was about right in post #32. Your formula actually made it farther from your original thought than my formula did.

Yep, that's what happens when u calculate large percentages in ur head. That's more like it, but i do notice its always close to the 95-97% mark, i'll let Excel extrapolate in future.

[LeBarticus]

i just had the option to upgrade one of my electric plants to level 4 but i went with my other nuke plant to level 2. cant wait till the electric plant is level 10 :D

[Hassleham]

Just had another thought! Nobody has mentioned Desalination Plants in this discussion. I think i'd get those up to 10 before anything.

[LeBarticus]

I've been wanting to talk about strategy for upgrading for a while. I normally go for buildings that don't take as long, no matter the price really. Sometimes i have the option to upgrade a certain building but don't because i want to collect the $. Do you try and time your upgrades with your income buildings to try and have the next building you want to upgrade be ready to collect near the time your upgrade is done?

that wasn't worded very well, but i hope you get my point lol

[EnjoyLife]

i just had the option to upgrade one of my electric plants to level 4 but i went with my other nuke plant to level 2. cant wait till the electric plant is level 10 :D

That will cost you about 216m with a level 10 Cement Factory.

[EnjoyLife]

I've been wanting to talk about strategy for upgrading for a while. I normally go for buildings that don't take as long, no matter the price really. Sometimes i have the option to upgrade a certain building but don't because i want to collect the $. Do you try and time your upgrades with your income buildings to try and have the next building you want to upgrade be ready to collect near the time your upgrade is done?

that wasn't worded very well, but i hope you get my point lol


I do try to time my upgrades, if the building I will upgrade puts out decent cash.

[Hassleham]

I've been wanting to talk about strategy for upgrading for a while. I normally go for buildings that don't take as long, no matter the price really.

Same here! I've been deciding what to upgrade next based on the time it'll take, i've just upgraded both oil rigs to level 3, taking 24 hours each, which is the shortest upgrade time for all my current buildings.
I decided that it'll be better doing long upgrades with my income higher because i'll have enough time during that upgrade to farm enough cash for the next one, if you get what i mean.

[EnjoyLife]

Same here! I've been deciding what to upgrade next based on the time it'll take, i've just upgraded both oil rigs to level 3, taking 24 hours each, which is the shortest upgrade time for all my current buildings.
I decided that it'll be better doing long upgrades with my income higher because i'll have enough time during that upgrade to farm enough cash for the next one, if you get what i mean.

My next 3 upgrades appear to be Geothermal to Level 2, then to Level 3, then Infirmary to Level 7. I'll have to see where to go after that.

[Hassleham]

Ahh crap i forgot about boost buildings haha. I haven't been including them in my strategy.
I currently have them all but they're all on level 1 apart from naval research on level 5.

I need to decide when to focus on upgrade buildings, cos until now it's been all about income!

[Arizona]

Now the last event is behind us, I'm going to try to stay focused to alternating between the $ buildings and unit/boost buildings.

My income at the moment is enough so while a boost or unit building is upgrading, I'm making enough money to buy new units the following day.
For instance, I've got the robotics facility upgrading to Level 3.
When its done in 10 hrs, I'll spend the money I've made during today on a dozen or so Rapid Fire Attack Vehicles.
After the Robotics upgrade, decide what else isn't going to take much time, and upgrade that. Maybe the Electronics, Genetics buildings or Rigs
I'm lucky to have the bonus unit that cuts upgrade times, so a lot of decision making gets easier.

[Hassleham]

I'm lucky to have the bonus unit that cuts upgrade times, so a lot of decision making gets easier.

Nice. If that was for sale, i might actually consider buying it haha.

I think it'd be good to be able to spend valor on skills such as reducing upgrade time, as well as just buying units.

[Freekizh]

I have to say Im a big fan of the oil rig - easy big money payouts. But the EPP is kinda "raid proof" no one really pays much attention to these kinda buildings.

[Hassleham]

That's a good point Freekizh.

Right, NEW PLAN. I'm going to upgrade the cement factory right up to level 10 starting tomorrow and save money while i'm doing it and hopefully have enough for a level 4 Oil Rig by the time it's finished.

[Freekizh]

That's a good point Freekizh.

Right, NEW PLAN. I'm going to upgrade the cement factory right up to level 10 starting tomorrow and save money while i'm doing it and hopefully have enough for a level 4 Oil Rig by the time it's finished.

Well you better build a good defense, and hope Hello Kitty doesn't your level 4 rigs. She might become your best friend :)

[Hassleham]

Well you better build a good defense, and hope Hello Kitty doesn't your level 4 rigs. She might become your best friend :)

Why? What level is she?

[Dr. Dengus]

I was just using rough estimates from some of the spreadsheet data. I've noticed; the sum of the preceding two levels is around 96% the price of the next level. With the numbers you gave me I made a rough estimate that a L10 rig is more in the region of 448m. but I haven't spent a lot of time analyzing all the data. Whatever the price, it's more than the vault capacity.

After reading your post it sparked some interest and I did a little investigating. Went to the spreadsheet and calculated the ratios (new output/previous output) for multiple buildings and I've seemed to have found some consistencies. It seems that all $$ building upgrades follow the same formula: New upgrade output = current output * (x) .
Where x is one of the following values below according to the buildings current level.

Was just bored.




Level 1 - 2 : 2.00000
Level 2 - 3 : 1.75000
Level 3 - 4 : 1.57143
Level 4 - 5 : 1.45455
Level 5 - 6 : 1.37500
Level 6 - 7 : 1.31818
Level 7 - 8 : 1.27586
Level 8 - 9 : 1.24324
Level 9 - 10 : 1.30435


Edit: Nvm I'm spacing out, you guys were talking about the upgrade costs..durr..


Upgrade costs seem to increase by (5/3) * Previous upgrade cost.

[Hassleham]

That's useful Dengus, thanks.

It's a shame it'll be lost forever in the forums within a few days haha, i'm gonna note it down somewhere.

[manbeast]

both of mine are at 3. they have really short upgrade times. wish the upgrades didnt get so expensive so fast! man a draughtman would come in handy