itzkakarot
05-08-2012, 10:58 AM
Hey guys,
Forgive me if this has been asked before. I just did some scouring on the forums and couldn't find anything that really answers my question.
I'm trying to get some clarity on how the lockboxes, wall safes, briefcases, tbd (referred to as "lockboxes" for the remainder of this post) drops work in PVP. I'm talking specifically about acquiring lockboxes from players during a Robbery or Attack. I'm *not* talking about getting items/respect/secret documents out of the lockboxes.
I see lockbox drops working one of 2 ways:
Regardless of the player's current inventory of lockboxes, when a robbery or attack ensues a die is rolled and, if you win, you get a lockbox. If the player happens to have lockboxes on hand, they will "lose" one (1) for each that you win, otherwise nothing happens (e.g. they don't go negative, obviously) OR...
Lockboxes can *only* be looted in PVP if the opposing player has them on hand.
My suspicion is that #1 is correct. If lockboxes could only be looted from players who had them, that would mean that lockboxes are only "generated" (added to the world of CC) on PVE drops. Considering the fact that the PVP rate seems to be equal or better than the PVE rate, this would be a limiting factor of the event and no one would be looting boxes during PVP. Furthermore, judging by my own experience across multiple events, PVP drops are at a pretty steady drop rate regardless of my target. If #2 above was true, this would not be the case. The rate would be extremely variable, which would contradict something CC Mark said early on [emphasis is mine]:
The rate in which lockboxes drop is directly related to energy cost of a job (PvE) and a fixed value for stealing in PvP. The higher the energy cost for a job, the better chance at getting a lockbox.
I do have a suspicion, however, that the PVP rate *is* impacted by how weak the target is. This isn't scientific, but judging by my overall experience I find that if I hit someone who has 60% defense to my attack, I generally get a crappy drop rate. (Although, I guess that could be an argument that #1 above is correct, and that person is just an easy target who can't hold onto their boxes long enough for me to get them).
Granted, these are purely a non-scientific observations from a sample size of one (me). So I'm very curious if you guys have seen similar or varying results from what I have.
-itz
Forgive me if this has been asked before. I just did some scouring on the forums and couldn't find anything that really answers my question.
I'm trying to get some clarity on how the lockboxes, wall safes, briefcases, tbd (referred to as "lockboxes" for the remainder of this post) drops work in PVP. I'm talking specifically about acquiring lockboxes from players during a Robbery or Attack. I'm *not* talking about getting items/respect/secret documents out of the lockboxes.
I see lockbox drops working one of 2 ways:
Regardless of the player's current inventory of lockboxes, when a robbery or attack ensues a die is rolled and, if you win, you get a lockbox. If the player happens to have lockboxes on hand, they will "lose" one (1) for each that you win, otherwise nothing happens (e.g. they don't go negative, obviously) OR...
Lockboxes can *only* be looted in PVP if the opposing player has them on hand.
My suspicion is that #1 is correct. If lockboxes could only be looted from players who had them, that would mean that lockboxes are only "generated" (added to the world of CC) on PVE drops. Considering the fact that the PVP rate seems to be equal or better than the PVE rate, this would be a limiting factor of the event and no one would be looting boxes during PVP. Furthermore, judging by my own experience across multiple events, PVP drops are at a pretty steady drop rate regardless of my target. If #2 above was true, this would not be the case. The rate would be extremely variable, which would contradict something CC Mark said early on [emphasis is mine]:
The rate in which lockboxes drop is directly related to energy cost of a job (PvE) and a fixed value for stealing in PvP. The higher the energy cost for a job, the better chance at getting a lockbox.
I do have a suspicion, however, that the PVP rate *is* impacted by how weak the target is. This isn't scientific, but judging by my overall experience I find that if I hit someone who has 60% defense to my attack, I generally get a crappy drop rate. (Although, I guess that could be an argument that #1 above is correct, and that person is just an easy target who can't hold onto their boxes long enough for me to get them).
Granted, these are purely a non-scientific observations from a sample size of one (me). So I'm very curious if you guys have seen similar or varying results from what I have.
-itz