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overkill 280
04-27-2012, 08:58 PM
Just wondering why my Att went from 8335 down to 2816. And my def went from 10749 down to 2638. :confused: I'm assuming it's cause of all the allies I lost, just over 1000 down to 27. Am I correct in this assumption?

War Priest
04-27-2012, 09:01 PM
Bingo buddy! :)

Your stats are only counting for 108 units.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:13 PM
Bingo buddy! :)

Your stats are only counting for 108 units.So I should just add more allies then? But I'm doing so good this way when raiding and attacking. Barely any if any loses in units. And no loses in raiding or attacking.

War Priest
04-27-2012, 09:17 PM
So I should just add more allies then? But I'm doing so good this way when raiding and attacking. Barely any if any loses in units. And no loses in raiding or attacking.

You don't need to add allies. You probably found that sweet spot you were looking for. If your doing good then stay at that ally count.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:22 PM
You don't need to add allies. You probably found that sweet spot you were looking for. If your doing good then stay at that ally count.Ok I'll leave it like this for now then. I am enjoying the whole PVP aspect of the game now ;)

Dreno33
04-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Ok I'll leave it like this for now then. I am enjoying the whole PVP aspect of the game now ;)

you might also notice LESS attacks. one of the many benefits!

War Priest
04-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Ok I'll leave it like this for now then. I am enjoying the whole PVP aspect of the game now ;)

Haha. I am a little over 100 allies now. Much better for camping. Don't get attacked to much.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:32 PM
you might also notice LESS attacks. one of the many benefits!I didn't get attacked a whole lot before either, And if I did I'd rarely lose. But since dropping allies, I got attacked twice already, but won quite a bit of cash off them :) Where before I'd win but rarely get any cash.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Haha. I am a little over 100 allies now. Much better for camping. Don't get attacked to much.Yeah my plan is just to lay low and camp after this event. I wanna up my Hourly income! ;)

Copenhagen
04-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Overkill, What level are you?

War Priest
04-27-2012, 09:36 PM
Overkill, I would recommend getting pending allies though. For when you will need them again, and just in case you get bullied by somebody.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:36 PM
Overkill, What level are you?Just went to 61 :(

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:37 PM
Overkill, I would recommend getting pending allies though. For when you will need them again, and just in case you get bullied by somebody.Yeah I have 232 pending ones already :)

War Priest
04-27-2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah I have 232 pending ones already :)

What..? Already!

I have been trying to get allies for a week now and only up 19!

Copenhagen
04-27-2012, 09:39 PM
Just went to 61 :(

Interesting. I recently added allies from 30 to 60 in search of new PVP blood, and found bigger campers. Maybe I went the wrong direction on the allie count at lvl 46

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:40 PM
What..? Already!

I have been trying to get allies for a week now and only up 19!For some reason I get like 2-4 a day! lol

Copenhagen
04-27-2012, 09:41 PM
What..? Already!

I have been trying to get allies for a week now and only up 19!

Try adding your MW ID# after "Where's the popcorn?" BTW it's in Aisle 6 next to the potato chips at my local Albertsons.

overkill 280
04-27-2012, 09:42 PM
Interesting. I recently added allies from 30 to 60 in search of new PVP blood, and found bigger campers. Maybe I went the wrong direction on the allie count at lvl 46What's your MW name Copenhagen?

Copenhagen
04-27-2012, 10:01 PM
Copenhagen. What's you ID? I'll send an invite, that you can save in your requests.

hb bombers
04-27-2012, 10:06 PM
Try adding your MW ID# after "Where's the popcorn?" BTW it's in Aisle 6 next to the potato chips at my local Albertsons.

Classic!!! Aisle 6 next to the potato chips!!!! LMAO!!!

Aidan
04-28-2012, 12:03 AM
Try adding your MW ID# after "Where's the popcorn?" BTW it's in Aisle 6 next to the potato chips at my local Albertsons.

Hahahahahahahahaha. Nice one cope.

@WP if u really in need of allies why didnt u get the vip? I used to harvest it from add me thread but it took too much time n i dnt know if they r going to accept or nt. With vip, i can get 100-200 allies in 2 hours for 10 golds. Definitely worth it.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 09:12 AM
Copenhagen. What's you ID? I'll send an invite, that you can save in your requests.Hey Cope yeah send a request for sure. My id # 505 620 871, game name same as real name. Rod.

Buggs1a
04-28-2012, 09:23 AM
How many allies is good when you pvp and want them to have low attack and mdedense? I am level 41 with 91 or 11 allies and in pvp they always have over 2000 for attack and defense but I'm less then 1800 for each. I don't know what units to add to increase my stats since alOt of times I add units but no increase.

Hello Kitty
04-28-2012, 10:07 AM
What..? Already!

I have been trying to get allies for a week now and only up 19!Try using www.modernwarcodes.com (http://www.modernwarcodes.com). In the middle of the page, above the big red block of codes, there is a section "Add/Bump Your Friend Code." Add your MW ID there and the ally requests should start coming in. It takes about a day to bump off the list, just add your code back. Rinse and repeat.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 10:33 AM
How many allies is good when you pvp and want them to have low attack and mdedense? I am level 41 with 91 or 11 allies and in pvp they always have over 2000 for attack and defense but I'm less then 1800 for each. I don't know what units to add to increase my stats since alOt of times I add units but no increase.Buy the best unit you have unlocked. If you can.. Buy the sea scouts, ambulance or medics for defense. And the highest attack unit you can.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 11:51 AM
If you want a very rapid def increase I suggest Military ambulance. I am up to 600 of them and my defense is >28k. They are not expensive and a week or so of just buying them should get you a nice def boost.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 11:55 AM
If you want a very rapid def increase I suggest Military ambulance. I am up to 600 of them and my defense is >28k. They are not expensive and a week or so of just buying them should get you a nice def boost.Yeah for sure eh..What level are you Poopenshire?

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 11:58 AM
I am at 83 now, before the events I was 59. Since they added events I have been leveling a lot!

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 12:17 PM
I am at 83 now, before the events I was 59. Since they added events I have been leveling a lot!Yeah they''ll do that to you :mad:

Copenhagen
04-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Hey Cope yeah send a request for sure. My id # 505 620 871, game name same as real name. Rod.

Done. I missed the "Rod" the first time I read this and thought your Mama named you Overkill.

Buggs1a
04-28-2012, 03:13 PM
I buy cheap units because they give better stats cheaper combined. So when the cheaper units don't work then I get the next cheaper unit. But it sucks trying to figure this out.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 05:08 PM
If you want a very rapid def increase I suggest Military ambulance. I am up to 600 of them and my defense is >28k. They are not expensive and a week or so of just buying them should get you a nice def boost.Hey Poopenshire, I tried buying a single ambulance to see if it would up my def rating, and it didn't. So I tried buying a sea scout, with the same results. I assume it's cause I have even higher rated units? which I do. So is there any use of me even buying theses lower stat ones, if they don't give me an increase?

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 05:30 PM
Hey Poopenshire, I tried buying a single ambulance to see if it would up my def rating, and it didn't. So I tried buying a sea scout, with the same results. I assume it's cause I have even higher rated units? which I do. So is there any use of me even buying theses lower stat ones, if they don't give me an increase?

For this units it go big or go home. Example, if your level 80, you can have 1600 units and if you have only MA that's a base defense of 28,800. Every unit over 18 defense is bonus. Now this work with the more allows and units you have. I started with 100 MA's, now I have >600. I have units both with higher and lower def points, but as I buy more MA's my base score will get closer to 28,800. I am over this number now due to the number of high def units. I figure I can still add a few hundred more MA's and add a few thousand to my def score. Plus they are low casualty so try din't die often.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 05:39 PM
Soon I will start doing the same with mine ships. With 26 def the new base line at level 80 is 41,600. I figure to effect my numbers I will need to buy them a few dozen at a time. In small numbers there will be negligible increases, but after a few weeks I think I can get a few hundred which should give me a really large boost.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 06:26 PM
As an FYI I now have 700 military ambulances (MA) for a defense contribution of 12,600 def points. If I can get the mine ship to this level I would have 18,200 and with nation bonus I would have 20,020 def points just for
Those units. Still leaving me with ~900 other units to add to my defense.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 08:49 PM
As an FYI I now have 700 military ambulances (MA) for a defense contribution of 12,600 def points. If I can get the mine ship to this level I would have 18,200 and with nation bonus I would have 20,020 def points just for
Those units. Still leaving me with ~900 other units to add to my defense.Ok so how many would I have to buy so they start showing up in my def stats? I have 61 right now.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 08:52 PM
Ok so how many would I have to buy so they start showing up in my def stats? I have 61 right now.

If your still at 108 units in battle they should show up now.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 08:55 PM
Ok so how many would I have to buy so they start showing up in my def stats? I have 61 right now.

It took until i was over 150 to start showing a difference and then every 40 or 60 more gave a nice boost, my goal is to not have a defensive unit below 18 defense. at 85,000 10 only cost 850,000. i think becuase i was buying in bulk > 40 at a time it showed up. after i buy my upgrades and daily purchases i would spend every available dollar on MA's. with out seeing your raw number and units it would be hard to see the potential impact. as well your ally count will affect as your limited to units by that.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 08:57 PM
If your still at 108 units in battle they should show up now. But they aren't..I just bought another one to check, and my stats didn't change.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 08:59 PM
WP i think overkill has a high density already, it won't benefit him until his ally count is increased greatly.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 09:01 PM
WP i think overkill has a high density already, it won't benefit him until his ally count is increased greatly.

Yeah, didn't know what he is packing... Guess I will have to go take a peak.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 09:03 PM
WP i think overkill has a high density already, it won't benefit him until his ally count is increased greatly.

current stats and MA count:
28,784 def, 378 ally, 700 MA's

Post Purchase
29,166 def, 378 ally, 750 MA's

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 09:05 PM
thats ~7.8 def units per MA bought increase. the more I buy the less impact they have as they are displacing increasingly higher Def units. this means i am replacing units who average ~7.8 lower defense score.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 09:11 PM
I remember my impact being higher earlier in my purchase spree. Just wished I had kept detailed notes. it would really great to add to a guide if i had kept notes.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 09:26 PM
WP i think overkill has a high density already, it won't benefit him until his ally count is increased greatly.Just request me and I'll accept you 505 620 871.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 09:51 PM
Overkill, with your low ally count and high Def ration (24 def points per unit in battle) you will not see any increases until you really start adding allies. you won't see any increase unless you buy a unit with a defense over 24 and even then the closer to 24 the smaller the impact.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 09:53 PM
Overkill, with your low ally count and high Def ration (24 def points per unit in battle) you will not see any increases until you really start adding allies. you won't see any increase unless you buy a unit with a defense over 24 and even then the closer to 24 the smaller the impact.So how many allies would you suggest I get?

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 09:58 PM
That depends on how much you want to expose yourself to attacks. are you losing alot or being attacked alot? from your units I think you could easily add a few more, maybe around 10 WP might agree. its been a while since i was at your level i forget what the ATT and Def scores around there were.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 10:00 PM
That depends on how much you want to expose yourself to attacks. are you losing alot or being attacked alot? from your units I think you could easily add a few more, maybe around 10 WP might agree. its been a while since i was at your level i forget what the ATT and Def scores around there were.

I am unaware of the conversation to agree. :(

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 10:02 PM
its all in here, but overkill asked if he should increase his allies. I just don't know enough to say yes or no.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 10:04 PM
its all in here, but overkill asked if he should increase his allies. I just don't know enough to say yes or no.

As long as he is in a sweet spot. More allies mean more attacks/more losses/more XP/more casualties. Overkill, if your winning most of your battles and feel safe to sleep at that ally count, then I would say stay there.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 10:05 PM
That depends on how much you want to expose yourself to attacks. are you losing alot or being attacked alot? from your units I think you could easily add a few more, maybe around 10 WP might agree. its been a while since i was at your level i forget what the ATT and Def scores around there were.No even when I had over a 1000 allies, I rarely lost for whatever reason. So I have no problem adding 10.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 10:08 PM
As long as he is in a sweet spot. More allies mean more attacks/more losses/more XP/more casualties. Overkill, if your winning most of your battles and feel safe to sleep at that ally count, then I would say stay there.Yeah I'm not losing at all, but at this low of allies, am I not missing out on making a lot of valor from when I do att/raid?

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 10:08 PM
anymore for me its almost every few days i get hit by someone moving up the ladders. Most often i am left alone at this level, but like i said every so often it happens. the other day i got hit by someone same level with 600 super hornets, or a new whale on the way up. the last person their att was >40K, i had no chance. i am concentrating on getting my defense up to a point where i won't get slaughtered easily. granted, like i said in another post, there are so many people with <10K att and def at my level currently i am not too worried, but i want a high def incase the ladders change or i level up too much.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 10:10 PM
Yeah I'm not losing at all, but at this low of allies, am I not missing out on making a lot of valor from when I do att/raid?

I wouldn't know about that. I get around 400 valor every 5 fights I do up at 120 allies.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 10:10 PM
Yeah I'm not losing at all, but at this low of allies, am I not missing out on making a lot of valor from when I do att/raid?

I know one thread put it right, you get the same valor with 1 ally as someone with 1000.

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 10:13 PM
I wouldn't know about that. I get around 400 valor every 5 fights I do up at 120 allies.How do you get that much in 5 fights?

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 10:15 PM
my level based missions for valor are at 620 per mission complete. my ally based/consecutive win based are paying out 800 per mission complete right now, but like the one i am doing i need to win 36 in a row to get that.

Copenhagen
04-28-2012, 10:17 PM
I know one thread put it right, you get the same valor with 1 ally as someone with 1000.

What???

Hey poop! I see you're active. I sent you a pm about an hour ago. Check notifications at top of forum site.

War Priest
04-28-2012, 10:18 PM
How do you get that much in 5 fights?

Just checked my goals and it looks like it's every 10 fights but I have 20 stamina so seems like it sometimes. Am at like 25K valor just from this event. (Box loot and pvp)

overkill 280
04-28-2012, 10:19 PM
my level based missions for valor are at 620 per mission complete. my ally based/consecutive win based are paying out 800 per mission complete right now, but like the one i am doing i need to win 36 in a row to get that.See and cause of my high ally count before, I have missions like: win 8 battles against opponents with 72 or more allies. But now that i have so few allies, I can't complete my missions anymore.

Poopenshire
04-28-2012, 10:19 PM
What???

Hey poop! I see you're active. I sent you a pm about an hour ago. Check notifications at top of forum site.

thanks, i am on my iphone so i can't see the notification.

Maverick50727
04-29-2012, 09:38 AM
So I should just add more allies then? But I'm doing so good this way when raiding and attacking. Barely any if any loses in units. And no loses in raiding or attacking.
FYI, Been there done that a few times after McDoc had luck with it.

I dropped my allies down to 50 back in the beginning of March but had some issues with it. Send me a PM and let me know how you are doing and if you can do goals. That was the main issue for me.