Low Level Discussion ( Under level 25)

[Bala82]

We have too many player who are high level which is good but for low level players it's annoying because we won't have access to all best equipment so i thought I would better create a discussion for low level players to get tips.

I am going use this topic post things i am not sure about. i read best of the best topic number of times since i joined i feel like i am slowly understanding this game.

MOB MEMBERS
So you need 20 mafia member for Italian restaurant but if you drop down will Italian restaurant you purchase still generate money afterwards ?

Each mob member will use a weapons that you have ?

Ideal Building you get
It seem Italian Restaurant , Movie Theater and Loft are best buildings to aim for since it based mob size. You should first have the money to buy them instead rushing to add mob members.

Weapons & Armour
There are gloves in armour section you need 25 Mafia to get are they worth getting ?

Is Gas mask at level 18 a good purchase for protection - Do we need 1 for each mob member ?

That's it for now :cool:

[fuzzy]

Yes - the Italian Restaurant will still make money

Armour - If you are looking for defense the Military Goggles are a better choice. If you are looking for attack then yes the gloves.

Each Mob Member will use the best weapon that you have for either defense or attack. So lets look at the armour. It would use the googles 1/4 for defending but it would use the Steel Toed Boots 2/2 for attacking.

Bala I think you need to stop looking at what weapons would be coming up in the next levels and just try and have all of the strongest weapons at your current level.

You are in my Fuzz Ball mob stop over and look at my inventory.

I'm sitting at 390/549 at level 9

You are sitting at 186/202 at level 11.

[Bala82]

Ok thank you fuzz ball i will pop over very soon check your inventory see which one i need :)

[Bala82]

I'm sitting at 390/549 at level 9

You are sitting at 186/202 at level 11.

Wow i didn't realise how difficult it is to get that high i only increase 196/227.

This game really multiple aspect if you not upgrading building ,your buying weapons.

Thanks for giving me something aim for because i thought my one was average. :)

[Bala82]

Do you need purchase same number vehicles for mob size eg if you have 25 mafia member do you have buy 25 junkie?

When i travel to friend hood i get a message saying you mob is weak need purchase more Vehicles.

[emcee]

The best building to buy at low levels is a night club. Night clubs are actually the best income buildings in Crime City including gold at present. The only one that comes close are casinos which become unlocked at level 185.

There are many opposing theories regarding the efficacy of camping. Levelers feel there is a lost opportunity cost not utilizing your energy and stamina fully. Also, some have theorized that it should be a race to high levels to unlock all income buildings and especially the higher payout gold buildings.

At low levels you don't need to purchase items for all mob members that eventually will become obsolete

Extreme campers will argue they don't need to bank, fully equip a large mob, spend lots for hood expansions and be exposed to gold playing sharks prematurely. By delaying these for as long as possible more will be reinvested back into economy building.

If night clubs can be purchased at low levels all the unnecessary income to fully equip a mob of 300 with low, mid or high tier in game cash items can be funneled back into economy.

For instance, in my objective to purchase 2 night clubs at level 8 all I need to purchase was a maximum 40 of each class items to fully equip my mob. However, this is way overkill as most at level 8 do not have a strong enough economy to even come close of getting the best item in each category especially vehicles.

At level 25 all you need to worry about is buying 125 items in each category assuming you want to fully arm your mob.

Extreme low level campers can easily surpass income/hr for most high level (100+) even those with access to all income and gold buildings up to level 184 provided those players have not purchased night clubs.

[emcee]

Low level campers should just concentrate on purchasing items with good defense scores and not attack. Most equips to fully arm your mob can be delayed once your economy has fully bloomed if your mob is trimmed to zero plus henchmen provided you have sufficient defense buildings. Movie theaters, lofts and night clubs can be purchased with queued request, mass acceptance and then immediate dismissal if you do not want to fully arm your mob.

[Bala82]

My defence is certainly higher that most people at my level but nightclub is too expensive and so is the MT but i am working on it. 144,000 is a lot. i can raise 20,000 in a day by collecting all money during the day.

I am not a camper i just level to that i can purchase what i want. i planning level up every week by 1.

[Bala82]

So i spend the weekend upgrading all my buildings to level 5 but now i have problem of too much income and i don't know what to do excess of money i have as i don't lose it to bank nor fights. So far i have increased my defences from 227 to 300. As a result everyone that attacked me has lost but i don't leave money out as it might attact some gold player who might to farm me.

Even through my income is getting higher i still unable to afford MT but it would take 2 days save up for it but i don't risk saving up to have someone hit me during this time.

[Jamievs]

The best building to buy at low levels is a night club. Night clubs are actually the best income buildings in Crime City including gold at present. The only one that comes close are casinos which become unlocked at level 185.

There are many opposing theories regarding the efficacy of camping. Levelers feel there is a lost opportunity cost not utilizing your energy and stamina fully. Also, some have theorized that it should be a race to high levels to unlock all income buildings and especially the higher payout gold buildings.

At low levels you don't need to purchase items for all mob members that eventually will become obsolete

Extreme campers will argue they don't need to bank, fully equip a large mob, spend lots for hood expansions and be exposed to gold playing sharks prematurely. By delaying these for as long as possible more will be reinvested back into economy building.

If night clubs can be purchased at low levels all the unnecessary income to fully equip a mob of 300 with low, mid or high tier in game cash items can be funneled back into economy.

For instance, in my objective to purchase 2 night clubs at level 8 all I need to purchase was a maximum 40 of each class items to fully equip my mob. However, this is way overkill as most at level 8 do not have a strong enough economy to even come close of getting the best item in each category especially vehicles.

At level 25 all you need to worry about is buying 125 items in each category assuming you want to fully arm your mob.

Extreme low level campers can easily surpass income/hr for most high level (100+) even those with access to all income and gold buildings up to level 184 provided those players have not purchased night clubs.

Is the NC the building that needs 300+ mobs to unlock and costs 40 million to build? Or am I missing something here..?

[Bala82]

Yep i know some people are hardcore campers and want them at low levels . I tend to be more realistic aim MT which only needs 50 Mafia and 144,000. Few days i achieve acquire Italian restaurant and now working MT. I am not bothering with NC.

[BeniBugatti]

Nightclubs are the best indeed. However, my level 9 camper has been camping since February and has only just managed to get his lofts to level 4. His income is 47K/hr which is of course inflated by having 2 level 10 laundries. Realistically, I could start building nightclubs right now, but even with perfect collecting it would take 36 days (or $400 of gold) before I could buy one.

When you see nightclubs at low levels I'd say the odds are very high that you are looking at a money glitcher.

[Bala82]

That the problem if someone reports you and you get account scrapped and have start all over again i would be annoyed.

[murf]

Yes - the Italian Restaurant will still make money

Armour - If you are looking for defense the Military Goggles are a better choice. If you are looking for attack then yes the gloves.

Each Mob Member will use the best weapon that you have for either defense or attack. So lets look at the armour. It would use the googles 1/4 for defending but it would use the Steel Toed Boots 2/2 for attacking.

Bala I think you need to stop looking at what weapons would be coming up in the next levels and just try and have all of the strongest weapons at your current level.

You are in my Fuzz Ball mob stop over and look at my inventory.

I'm sitting at 390/549 at level 9

You are sitting at 186/202 at level 11.

I would just want to add, that you might not want to get a truck-load of low level RP items even if they are the best at your level, but in-game cash items, I agree with if you are camping

[Bala82]

Yeah unfortunately no guide as when any of these weapons will be available eg chain whip -no idea whet level that become available. It would nice level guide as when new weapons become available. :(

[murf]

Yeah unfortunately no guide as when any of these weapons will be available eg chain whip -no idea whet level that become available. It would nice level guide as when new weapons become available. :(

Didn't you post this link:

http://www.comparewinner.com/crime-city-tutorials.html

[murf]

Didn't you post this link:

http://www.comparewinner.com/crime-city-tutorials.html

sorry, just checked again and you're right, I can't find when they unlock...

[Bala82]

Yes it tell you what weapons you can expect and price but no level guide.

[BeniBugatti]

I sent a couple of mob requests from my camper Vito Bugatti to Bala and Fuzz Ball's low level campers. Check my hood out, it is primarily based on the $Gain/hr/hr building order. Though I have put some gold into crates and ice cream shops.

On that note, Ice Cream shops work very well with Italians, and they are cheap for gold building.

[Bala82]

Wow man your hood look incredible but it must taken you months to get all of that

[Dreno33]

I just bought two Empire theaters 250g each. Lvl 10s will produce 37k each every 3 hours. yeeeeeeah(: i have 2 lvl 4 MTs and my game started 3/25

Check my sig

[Bala82]

you guys keep raising the standards i will never catch up :(

[Dreno33]

you guys keep raising the standards i will never catch up :(

Bala, I don't bank, thats why mine has progressed so fast

[Bala82]

Yeah but ain't worried you might attract unwanted attention on profile page when they see how much money you have ?

[Dreno33]

Yeah but ain't worried you might attract unwanted attention on profile page when they see how much money you have ?

nope. with only 3 mafia my attack and defense are mid-200s

Win/loss

Attack = 371/3
Rob = 0/0

[emcee]

Is the NC the building that needs 300+ mobs to unlock and costs 40 million to build? Or am I missing something here..?

Yes. Like lofts and movie theaters no level requirements.

[emcee]

Nightclubs are the best indeed. However, my level 9 camper has been camping since February and has only just managed to get his lofts to level 4. His income is 47K/hr which is of course inflated by having 2 level 10 laundries. Realistically, I could start building nightclubs right now, but even with perfect collecting it would take 36 days (or $400 of gold) before I could buy one.

When you see nightclubs at low levels I'd say the odds are very high that you are looking at a money glitcher.

I have been camping since Nov 24, 2011. Took me slightly over a month to save up for the night club. Anyone who would like to see their economy jump exponentially should save up for night clubs once they have a minimum 50k/hr.

You can easily tell if people are cheating at low or any levels if you see they have income/hr under 60k even with 1 night club in their inventory. If you subtract the $/hr gain they should have an income of about 30k prior to saving up for nc.
In this situation it would take them many months to save for the nc which is highly unlikely. Having a nc does not automatically place you in the cheating category. You should have a look at their inventory and see whether they have items that their economy would be highly unable to support. Telltale signs are buying top in game cash items way beyond the need of their existing mob.

[emcee]

That the problem if someone reports you and you get account scrapped and have start all over again i would be annoyed.

The fear that you have legitimately saved and built a night club and people think you have cheated, report you and Funzio resets your account is nonsense.

[Bala82]

The fear that you have legitimately saved and built a night club and people think you have cheated, report you and Funzio resets your account is nonsense.

Well i don't know since i have no idea what Funzio will do but i hope your right.

[emcee]

Well i don't know since i have no idea what Funzio will do but i hope your right.
Real cheaters are taking a long time to get banned. No one gets banned without a thorough investigation. If you have done nothing wrong then what is there to worry about?

[Bala82]

Cool thank you for your reassurance i am new so i don't know how quickly they react to cheaters.

[Bala82]

Well i am at the point where i went a bit mad this week and got to level 23. I can't decide what the next building i want apart from Loft but i need to get my income up from 8k. I have looked at the other buildings but none of them appeal to me. I am stuck because i don't what else i can do for my hood. Right now i am happy with my hood and need stick at this level for few months until i get all my buildings to Level 10.

All this time i had plan what buildings to buy and now i reach the point where i have no plan :(.

Buildings that i am on fence with
Sports Bar
Collection Agency
Dominican Restaurant
Internet Company

Any help would be appreciated :). The reason i am asking is decide whether i should expand my hood or keep it as it is.

[fuzzy]

Well i am at the point where i went a bit mad this week and got to level 23. I can't decide what the next building i want apart from Loft but i need to get my income up from 8k. I have looked at the other buildings but none of them appeal to me. I am stuck because i don't what else i can do for my hood. Right now i am happy with my hood and need stick at this level for few months until i get all my buildings to Level 10.

All this time i had plan what buildings to buy and now i reach the point where i have no plan :(.

Buildings that i am on fence with
Sports Bar
Collection Agency
Dominican Restaurant
Internet Company

Any help would be appreciated :). The reason i am asking is decide whether i should expand my hood or keep it as it is.

Go with the Dominican Restaurant. It is great. I have both of mine at Level 5 and they pay out 70,400 every 24 hours

I have looked at your hood why do you not have 2 of the other buildings?

[tempt]

Well i am at the point where i went a bit mad this week and got to level 23. I can't decide what the next building i want apart from Loft but i need to get my income up from 8k. I have looked at the other buildings but none of them appeal to me. I am stuck because i don't what else i can do for my hood. Right now i am happy with my hood and need stick at this level for few months until i get all my buildings to Level 10.

All this time i had plan what buildings to buy and now i reach the point where i have no plan :(.

Buildings that i am on fence with
Sports Bar
Collection Agency
Dominican Restaurant
Internet Company

Any help would be appreciated :). The reason i am asking is decide whether i should expand my hood or keep it as it is.

I kind of did what you did. Started out camping, but then moved up a bit on the levels (now lvl 22) to open up some buildings/weapons. I am actually tempted to move to Lvl 32 to unlock Night Vision Goggles for my RP collection.

That said, I would recommend upgrading your existing buildings before adding new ones. I believe both Sports Bar and Internet Company are buildings that you will eventually get a job for to build. So instead of building them now, I'd wait so at least you get job credit for it. I made the mistake of building out my warehouse ahead of the job and ended up building a second warehouse.

But if you are hell bent on building, I'd go with Dom Restaurant. I haven't seen that job yet on my other account...

[Bala82]

I have looked at your hood why do you not have 2 of the other buildings?

I made a choice early on not to buy two of each building because if i did i would need keep expanding my hood. For me personally having one of each building has made it easy fit the buildings i wanted. Buying two of each would need more space. From my POV i decided to only buy one to save on space. :).

I understand why most people do this :)

[jaywalker]

I made a choice early on not to buy two of each building because if i did i would need keep expanding my hood. For me personally having one of each building has made it easy fit the buildings i wanted. Buying two of each would need more space. From my POV i decided to only buy one to save on space. :).

I understand why most people do this :)

I don't know how to explain this in a better way: That is idiotic.

[tempt]

I made a choice early on not to buy two of each building because if i did i would need keep expanding my hood. For me personally having one of each building has made it easy fit the buildings i wanted. Buying two of each would need more space. From my POV i decided to only buy one to save on space. :).

I understand why most people do this :)

Huh?! So you are building for aesthetics reasons? So instead of having 2 good buildings, you'd rather have 1 good and one not so good? I'm confused.

[Sasha54]

Cool thank you for your reassurance i am new so i don't know how quickly they react to cheaters.

Just my 2 cents.....
save for the Loft - get 1 as soon as you can - then upgrade it to level 2 - then get the 2nd Loft - and then go back and get some other buildings that you passed on.

That advice is based on - I think Tramp Stamp's but I think a lot of people followed that strategy. I know the loft seems out of reach but you will get there.

Also - how else are you generating money other than collecting - are you doing any farming or any robbing.........

[Bala82]

Huh?! So you are building for aesthetics reasons? So instead of having 2 good buildings, you'd rather have 1 good and one not so good? I'm confused.

Well isn't that my choice and like i explained i really didn't want to expand just so i can have 2 of each buildings. I would need twice as much space :cool:.

This is the way i want to play everyone has their own way of doing things but at the end of the day the choice is mine. I listen to all advice given but it's up to me how i want to play this game.

We are all here to share our own experiences and play style if everyone did same as everyone else it would be boring?.

[Bala82]

Ju

Also - how else are you generating money other than collecting - are you doing any farming or any robbing.........

Yes i am robbing and farming when i need extra money my favourite is robbing warehouses and t-shirt stands at my level but i have robbed a clothing store. Still waiting to rob my first MT but i hardly see any at my level.

[sexkitteh]

Well isn't that my choice and like i explained i really didn't want to expand just so i can have 2 of each buildings. I would need twice as much space :cool:.

This is the way i want to play everyone has their own way of doing things but at the end of the day the choice is mine. I listen to all advice given but it's up to me how i want to play this game.

We are all here to share our own experiences and play style if everyone did same as everyone else it would be boring?.

Bala we understand that everyone has their style of playing and that is the beauty of this game.

However having said that, you are struggling to get to 8k and you are over lvl20... I've expanded only twice and have loads of space, I'm lvl4 so I don't have access to all the buildings and I'm making 6k an hour.

I'm sure you want to at least succeed in the game... even if you do only purchase one of each building you are still going to have to expand your hood... especially when you get to a size where you are getting beaten left right center... you are going to want to build defensive buildings and then oops! you can't build defensive buildings because you neither have space or INCOME to build them...

I urge you to rethink what you are doing my friend!

You NEEEEED the income and you can always destroy buildings in the long run if your REALLLY don't want to expand hood...

[tempt]

Yes i am robbing and farming when i need extra money my favourite is robbing warehouses and t-shirt stands at my level but i have robbed a clothing store. Still waiting to rob my first MT but i hardly see any at my level.

My recollection is that robbing warehouses adds quite a bit of exp, which will level you up fast, which will expose you to stronger players. Just be careful. Building richer hoods and collecting will shield you longer.

Just my $.02, after moving my first account too fast.

[Dreno33]

Just reached 30,000 income/hour yesterday, still lvl 8(:

[Sasha54]

Well isn't that my choice and like i explained i really didn't want to expand just so i can have 2 of each buildings. I would need twice as much space :cool:.

This is the way i want to play everyone has their own way of doing things but at the end of the day the choice is mine. I listen to all advice given but it's up to me how i want to play this game.

We are all here to share our own experiences and play style if everyone did same as everyone else it would be boring?.

Sure - that's fine - I didn't get 2 of EVERY building and there are many lower level buildings I skipped altogether - However if you follow the Best of Guides - there are some buildings you really do need to get if you want your economy to grow and the sooner the better that you get them - they will generate income fast. AND you probably should get 2 of them - if you notice other peoples hoods - the majority of people have 2 of the money makers

You can play how you want but I think what others are saying is that it may be to your detriment in the long run by not having 2 of the buildings - its one of the key factors in the game.........

[Sasha54]

And don't waste your money on defensive buildings - I did and wouldn't if I was starting over...........

[sexkitteh]

Just reached 30,000 income/hour yesterday, still lvl 8(:

I'm so jealous!

[sexkitteh]

And don't waste your money on defensive buildings - I did and wouldn't if I was starting over...........

I plan on buying turrets! lots of them :D

AND GATS!

[tempt]

And don't waste your money on defensive buildings - I did and wouldn't if I was starting over...........

I think the argument was to have a bunch, but keep them level 3 or below. No?

[tempt]

Just reached 30,000 income/hour yesterday, still lvl 8(:

You got some serious patience ;)

[Sasha54]

I think the argument was to have a bunch, but keep them level 3 or below. No?

Gattling guns - yes - they don't take up much space.
But I spent on larger items initially and they have a big footprint so to me that is wasted. Guard towers and turrets are useless imo - I have 1 turret - so that tells you something - like that it is not necessary....lol

[sexkitteh]

I think the argument was to have a bunch, but keep them level 3 or below. No?

Yes - however I think being sneaky is good too - just to scare people away with overly impressive stats....

build 50 turrets - get 25 to lvl 10 and put them out of sight. Then place 25x lvl 1-3 in plain view so people think you know what you are doing...

If you can make someone second guess attacking you... I think that's half the battle ;)

[fuzzy]

Just reached 30,000 income/hour yesterday, still lvl 8(:

Yes you bet me to 30k......congrats

How about race to 50k?

[sexkitteh]

Just out of curiosity - how long you guys plan on camping for???

I think once I'm at 50k I'm going to shoot through the ranks till I can't afford to buy stuff anymore lolz

[fuzzy]

Just out of curiosity - how long you guys plan on camping for???

I think once I'm at 50k I'm going to shoot through the ranks till I can't afford to buy stuff anymore lolz

Not sure how long I will camp. What you have to remember is that my camper account (Fuzz Ball) is my second account. I do level up my Fuzzy account around once or twice a week. I will probably camp for some time then make a mad dash for Dominican Restaurant. I have some personal goals to meet before then. There are certain number of buildings that I want at a certain level before I make the dash. The dash will also only be made buy robbing Laundromats so I'm not sure how fast of a dash it will be.

[sexkitteh]

Why only laundromats? See I was thinking of attacking through the "rush" because of the loot items vs/ the low money/rp gained from robbing low lvl... and then at higher lvl only rob...

[Bala82]

Sure - that's fine - I didn't get 2 of EVERY building and there are many lower level buildings I skipped altogether - However if you follow the Best of Guides - there are some buildings you really do need to get if you want your economy to grow and the sooner the better that you get them - they will generate income fast. AND you probably should get 2 of them - if you notice other peoples hoods - the majority of people have 2 of the money makers

You can play how you want but I think what others are saying is that it may be to your detriment in the long run by not having 2 of the buildings - its one of the key factors in the game.........

if you look at best of best guide the tramp hood planing topic first post makes no sense to me in fact i don't understand it. Now i do 2 laundry mats and i am thinking of buying another t-shirt stand as i like income i get from that. The problem i have is i don't know which buildings i should get two off.

I have a lot patience and i know it would takes few week camping to get my income up by upgrading the buildings.

[sexkitteh]

Well I think getting 2 level 10 lm is good and 2 lvl10 ice cream stands :D

Those are currently my 2 favorite buildings... I also like my gas stations and Italian restaurants right now...

The pawn shops are good when I cash them... but it's such a long turn around...

I'm looking forward (at low lvl) to getting the tshirt stands and the warehouses as well...

Some people hate the warehouse... but I've seen lots of high level successful players (in my friend list over lvl120) and they still have their 2x lvl 10 warehouses...

[Dreno33]

Yes you bet me to 30k......congrats

How about race to 50k?

YOU'RE ON! haha. but its not fair, i have a head start. You're 6.5k behind me...

[Dreno33]

Not sure how long I will camp. What you have to remember is that my camper account (Fuzz Ball) is my second account. I do level up my Fuzzy account around once or twice a week. I will probably camp for some time then make a mad dash for Dominican Restaurant. I have some personal goals to meet before then. There are certain number of buildings that I want at a certain level before I make the dash. The dash will also only be made buy robbing Laundromats so I'm not sure how fast of a dash it will be.

EXACTLY. This was my exact plan too. I want to have 2 Nightclubs to level 2 first (MAYBE lvl 3, doubt it tho), though. Robbing Laundrymats only. Save the Respect earned for yamahas, while upgrading both dominicans to lvl 10

[sexkitteh]

But lm only give out 2 rp - 3 at most? Am i right/wrong???

[Dreno33]

Well I think getting 2 level 10 lm is good and 2 lvl10 ice cream stands :D

Those are currently my 2 favorite buildings... I also like my gas stations and Italian restaurants right now...

The pawn shops are good when I cash them... but it's such a long turn around...

I'm looking forward (at low lvl) to getting the tshirt stands and the warehouses as well...

Some people hate the warehouse... but I've seen lots of high level successful players (in my friend list over lvl120) and they still have their 2x lvl 10 warehouses...

Italians better than ice cream shops. Warehouses (IMO, and most others) are total crap, lol. The HLP kept both lvl 10 warehouses b/c of the time invested in it. But the time invested could have been invested MORE wisely, understand? T-shirt stands are a win/win b/c of the tiny spots they fits in and also the income isn't shabby at all.

Pawn shops are decent but quickly become overlooked in upgrading things b/c they aren't worth it after awhile.Gas station (IMO) also aren't worth it at all. I sold my two lvl 3 gas stations b/c i would never upgrade them again and needed space for my Empires(:

[Dreno33]

But lm only give out 2 rp - 3 at most? Am i right/wrong???

yes, but, the exp earned is LESS than the respect earned. hence, you will gain MUCH more by the time you level up to 31(: get it?

[sexkitteh]

ohhhhhh interesting concept :)

I'M SO HAPPY I LEARNED THIS!

Thank you guys :)

I will only rob LM now! \(*0*)/

[fuzzy]

The problem i have is i don't know which buildings i should get two off.

Get your 2nd Italian Restaurant
Get your 2nd House
Get your 2nd Tshirt
Get your 2nd Tattoo
Get your 2nd Barber Shop

Delete those defense buildings you have except for the guns if you do not want to expand.

Take your pick and start upgrading. You should always always have an upgrade going. Just start buying

[Dreno33]

Get your 2nd House

Get your 2nd Tattoo


I would argue these two buildings... but, its just mine and Fuzzy's opinions, ok Bala? haha

[Bala82]

Thanks i always have something upgrading every day so it's not a problem but i will certain get what you suggested so thanks again . See you guys are a force of nature LOL

[tempt]

But lm only give out 2 rp - 3 at most? Am i right/wrong???

Yes, but you are also getting 1-2 EXP per hit, so slow level growth. I think ideally you hit LMs that are lvl 4+, just to avoid the 1exp:1rp returns.

[jinqs]

I would argue these two buildings... but, its just mine and Fuzzy's opinions, ok Bala? haha
I would argue against Tattoo only. House is a good income earning for low upgrade time invested.

[jinqs]

Yes, but you are also getting 1-2 EXP per hit, so slow level growth. I think ideally you hit LMs that are lvl 4+, just to avoid the 1exp:1rp returns.
LM level 7 gives optimal returns. It is always at least 1:2 and sometimes 1:3. LM level 8 usually gives 1:1 and sometimes 1:1.5 (2 xp, 3 respect).

edit: Also level 4 and 5 still have a chance of giving 1:1. I'll rob anything in the 5-7 range, but 7 are the best.

edit again: I just robbed a whole bunch of level 5 LMs and never got a 1:1 ratio. Maybe it's only level 4 that still has a chance of 1:1.

[tempt]

You can tell forum folks are all hunting LMs when you go to rival hoods and noticed all the houses/shoe-stores unrobbed, but LMs are all robbed.

[nopenopenope]

LM level 7 gives optimal returns. It is always at least 1:2 and sometimes 1:3. LM level 8 usually gives 1:1 and sometimes 1:1.5 (2 xp, 3 respect).

edit: Also level 4 and 5 still have a chance of giving 1:1. I'll rob anything in the 5-7 range, but 7 are the best.

edit again: I just robbed a whole bunch of level 5 LMs and never got a 1:1 ratio. Maybe it's only level 4 that still has a chance of 1:1.

white frog's all-in-one spreadsheet has a RP building farm tab with good info.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?26663-quot-All-in-One-quot-Spreadsheet-Update

LM:

lvl RP:XP
1 1:1
2 1:1
3 1:1
4 2:1
5 2:1
6 2:1
7 3:1
8 1:1
9 1.5:1
10 1.5:1

[jaywalker]

Collection Agencies at level 3-5 can give you 2-3 xp and 5-6RP as well. My experience is that it equals the level 7 LM.

[Bala82]

Get your 2nd Italian Restaurant DONE
Get your 2nd House DONE
Get your 2nd TshirtDONE
Get your 2nd TattooDONE
Get your 2nd Barber ShopDONE

Delete those defense buildings you have except for the guns if you do not want to expand.

Take your pick and start upgrading. You should always always have an upgrade going. Just start buying

So the next step upgrade them :).

[tempt]

So the next step upgrade them :).

And this is when things slow down ;)

[Bala82]

LOL I know I have 5 days of building upgrading to do it's boring but it has to be done. I only 1 more building to buy which my second MT it should be faster to get since first one took a whole day of money collection. I should be able my second one in half the time :)

[sexkitteh]

LOL I know I have 5 days of building upgrading to do it's boring but it has to be done. I only 1 more building to buy which my second MT it should be faster to get since first one took a whole day of money collection. I should be able my second one in half the time :)

bala you are very disciplined! lol

I had ALMOST enough for my FIRST mt and went and blew my money on clothes and accessories ( ._.)

[Bala82]

It helps that i am a guy LOL.

I am just saying *wink wink*

[sexkitteh]

lol those AK47's looked so good though...

[msjo]

Can I crash your low level party? I'm not quite as low level and not really planning to camp, but just found the forum after finding myself seriously outclassed by rivals at my level, so I'm working to build my economy and stats a bit so I can continue with active play.

I'm now level 35, 65 Mafia, 1015 att, 1150 def.

I have $9705/hr profile income, but really more like $5900 collected:
LM 6/7
Pizza 6/6
Deli 3/4
Tattoo 3/3
Gun 4/4
House 4/4
Gas 4/4
Souvenir 4/4
T-shirt 4/4
Diner 2
Barber 2/3
Italian 5/5
Ice cream 5/8
Bagel 2/2
Dominican 1/1
MT 1/1

Currently saving to upgrade the movie theaters and upgrading the laundromats while I wait. I've bought 10 nvb -trying to decide if I should buy more. Have been building a few machine guns just for something to do, but not sure whether to build more buildings or just wait until I have the money for lofts.

[jinqs]

Can I crash your low level party? I'm not quite as low level and not really planning to camp, but just found the forum after finding myself seriously outclassed by rivals at my level, so I'm working to build my economy and stats a bit so I can continue with active play.

I'm now level 35, 65 Mafia, 1015 att, 1150 def.

I have $9705/hr profile income, but really more like $5900 collected:
LM 6/7
Pizza 6/6
Deli 3/4
Tattoo 3/3
Gun 4/4
House 4/4
Gas 4/4
Souvenir 4/4
T-shirt 4/4
Diner 2
Barber 2/3
Italian 5/5
Ice cream 5/8
Bagel 2/2
Dominican 1/1
MT 1/1

Currently saving to upgrade the movie theaters and upgrading the laundromats while I wait. I've bought 10 nvb -trying to decide if I should buy more. Have been building a few machine guns just for something to do, but not sure whether to build more buildings or just wait until I have the money for lofts.

Your top priority should be getting your stats up a bit. Your attack and defence are a bit low. Make sure you level slowly for the next couple levels and actually spend some money on equipment. I know it sucks when you're saving up for awesome buildings, but it's worth it. Also, I would recommend buying a bunch more NVBs. They will be good for a really long time and will give you a substantial boost now without taking money away from your economy.

Your upgrade focus should be your MT and your Dominicans. Other than your laundromats, a good upgrade for you in the meantime would be those barbershops. They can produce decent income and aren't that expensive/time consuming to get up to level 4 or 5.

[Bala82]

Your defence needs to be a bit higher at level 35 you should have defence of at least 1500 or higher .

I would get rid off Souvenir to give your self some extra space instead going for next expansion :)

How comes you didn't buy Collection Agency or Seafood Restaurant ?

[msjo]

Your top priority should be getting your stats up a bit. Your attack and defence are a bit low. Make sure you level slowly for the next couple levels and actually spend some money on equipment. I know it sucks when you're saving up for awesome buildings, but it's worth it. Also, I would recommend buying a bunch more NVBs. They will be good for a really long time and will give you a substantial boost now without taking money away from your economy.

Your upgrade focus should be your MT and your Dominicans. Other than your laundromats, a good upgrade for you in the meantime would be those barbershops. They can produce decent income and aren't that expensive/time consuming to get up to level 4 or 5.

Thanks. I've been thinking about buying equipment, but the stuff available seems pretty lame for the price. I could buy combat shotguns for my bottom 6 Mafia for a gain of +18 att/ +6 def and a cost of $90,000. Or maybe I should buy junkers or motorcycles--for the same $90k I could buy 15 motorcycles +30/30 or 45 junkers for +45/45 since I don't have enough vehicles for all my guys. But is that a good use of money if they will be replaced pretty soon? I could also increase Mafia size, but already my bottom six guns are only +2 attack, as are my bottom three armor (though I think I can afford three more nvb).

Sadly I have an android, so no event items in my future.

[msjo]

Your defence needs to be a bit higher at level 35 you should have defence of at least 1500 or higher .

I would get rid off Souvenir to give your self some extra space instead going for next expansion :)

How comes you didn't buy Collection Agency or Seafood Restaurant ?

Not a specific choice, just been building and upgrading other stuff. Shoe store actually looks a little more appealing than the collection agency for the same footprint, though somewhat pricier to upgrade. Seafood restaurant is probably my next purchase if I buy new buildings, but I'm not sure if I should buy more new buildings or just focus on upgrading and building a few defense buildings.

[msjo]

Let me ask your thoughts on defense. I've been focusing mainly on attack numbers since I can pick my rivals and it seems like I'm always going to be attacked/ robbed by someone. I have been using the bank, so maybe the answer its that I could put money into better defense and stop banking, but that might wreck my peace of mind more than the cost. I don't see any inexpensive way to get my defense up to 1500. I could buy maybe 30 Mace for +90 def, but no attack gain.

[Bala82]

Well Here some of my Defence equipment so you can see how most my defences i invested in

Armour
Stab vest - 20
Gas Mask 20
Combat boots 20
Camo Fatigues 20
Riot Helmet 5 but planning buy 5 more
There helmet 4 attack 8 defence locked for me but shouldn't be for you.
Melee
Street knives 20
Tennis racket 20
Mace 20
Night stick 20

I am at lower level than you but my defence is 1180. You

[msjo]

Stab vests are bad value: for $9k you get 3/7, but if you buy armored gloves and riot helmets, you get 3/8 per pair for $8900.

The 4/8 swat helmet costs $18k. I don't think the +1 attack over the gloves/riot combo is worth the extra $9100.

[Bala82]

Stab vests are bad value: for $9k you get 3/7, but if you buy armored gloves and riot helmets, you get 3/8 per pair for $8900.

The 4/8 swat helmet costs $18k. I don't think the +1 attack over the gloves/riot combo is worth the extra $9100.

Until you have SWAT helmet unlocked you have no choice :(.

[kykboxr]

Is there any way to sell items (exc buildings)?

[Bala82]

Nope once you buy a weapon you are stuck with it :(. Just be careful what to buy :)

[sexkitteh]

Stab vests are bad value: for $9k you get 3/7, but if you buy armored gloves and riot helmets, you get 3/8 per pair for $8900.

The 4/8 swat helmet costs $18k. I don't think the +1 attack over the gloves/riot combo is worth the extra $9100.

I had to read your post like 30 times scratching my head and trying to figure out what you was saying... then I realized that you don't even know what you are saying.

Your combo doesn't work bud. You can't have a 2bit armor combo. Doesn't work that way. You can only use one or the other. And yes 1 extra point (given or taken) makes a difference. At lvl 100 - it could be a 500 point difference on your stat...

[tempt]

I had to read your post like 30 times scratching my head and trying to figure out what you was saying... then I realized that you don't even know what you are saying.

Your combo doesn't work bud. You can't have a 2bit armor combo. Doesn't work that way. You can only use one or the other. And yes 1 extra point (given or taken) makes a difference. At lvl 100 - it could be a 500 point difference on your stat...

I think his point is when you attack, you use your strongest items and when you defend, you use your strongest defend items. In this case, when you attack, you use the 3/3 gloves and when you defend, you use the 1/8 helmets. You still net $100 cheaper than stab vest.

[sexkitteh]

I think his point is when you attack, you use your strongest items and when you defend, you use your strongest defend items. In this case, when you attack, you use the 3/3 gloves and when you defend, you use the 1/8 helmets. You still net $100 cheaper than stab vest.

ohhhh in that case he is semi correct... you buy everything that gives the best imo... until you can spend your RP on top notch quality items :D

[tempt]

ohhhh in that case he is semi correct... you buy everything that gives the best imo... until you can spend your RP on top notch quality items :D

Not if you want to maximize atk/$ or def/$ spent ;)

[sexkitteh]

That's the whole point of having a billion dollar income o_0...

So you can afford to have the best of the best...

[msjo]

I had to read your post like 30 times scratching my head and trying to figure out what you was saying... then I realized that you don't even know what you are saying.

Your combo doesn't work bud. You can't have a 2bit armor combo. Doesn't work that way. You can only use one or the other. And yes 1 extra point (given or taken) makes a difference. At lvl 100 - it could be a 500 point difference on your stat...

Ah, but you can use a two bit armor combo because for attacking you take your best attack items and for defending you take your best defense items, so one item need not be the best overall if it is paired with another. so for outfitting a low level Mafia, you are sometimes better buying pairs where one item is used only for attack and its a match its used only for defense.

Of course at the highest levels, you end up needing the top equipment to get the Max stats, but for lower levels where the equipment you are buying will eventually be replaced by better stuff anyway, I think it is worth evaluating what purchase price gives good bang for Buck since any money spent on low level equipment is only for temporary gain anyway.

The pair I'm looking at is the perfect example of this.

Riot helmet: 1/8 $7000
Armored gloves: 3/3 $1900

So if you get one of each, you spend $8900. When you attack, you'll use the armored gloves for +3. When you defend, you'll use the riot helmet for +8. (assuming the last member of your Mafia would otherwise have no armor).

If instead you buy a stab vest, you'll spend $9000, and you'll get the same +3 attack, but only +7 defense.

That makes the stab vest a bad deal. The only reason I see to buy them is if you want to complete the buy 5 stab vests goal or if you need them for a mission you decide to do.

[sexkitteh]

Ah, but you can use a two bit armor combo because for attacking you take your best attack items and for defending you take your best defense items, so one item need not be the best overall if it is paired with another. so for outfitting a low level Mafia, you are sometimes better buying pairs where one item is used only for attack and its a match its used only for defense.

Of course at the highest levels, you end up needing the top equipment to get the Max stats, but for lower levels where the equipment you are buying will eventually be replaced by better stuff anyway, I think it is worth evaluating what purchase price gives good bang for Buck since any money spent on low level equipment is only for temporary gain anyway.

The pair I'm looking at is the perfect example of this.

Riot helmet: 1/8 $7000
Armored gloves: 3/3 $1900

So if you get one of each, you spend $8900. When you attack, you'll use the armored gloves for +3. When you defend, you'll use the riot helmet for +8. (assuming the last member of your Mafia would otherwise have no armor).

If instead you buy a stab vest, you'll spend $9000, and you'll get the same +3 attack, but only +7 defense.

That makes the stab vest a bad deal. The only reason I see to buy them is if you want to complete the buy 5 stab vests goal or if you need them for a mission you decide to do.

You should save up for the blast guard helmet ^^

125k 6/14... Can't beat it...
53k 10/5 Steel Garrote
Those are both relatively affordable good items. And they will make a big difference at lower levels...

[tempt]

You should save up for the blast guard helmet ^^

125k 6/14... Can't beat it...
53k 10/5 Steel Garrote
Those are both relatively affordable good items. And they will make a big difference at lower levels...

I'd be careful about buying too many blast guard helmet, as I think mid-level RP item NVP will replace that not far in the future (level 32). Unless you are truly planning to bank all your RPs for chain whips MUCH further down in the game.

Also, need LOTS of money for those items ;)

[sexkitteh]

Yeah I wan't to spend my RP on the exeleros I keep hearing about...

It seems that at higher levels you can farm for items almost as good as the nvb...

[Sasha54]

Yeah I wan't to spend my RP on the exeleros I keep hearing about...

It seems that at higher levels you can farm for items almost as good as the nvb...

Really?

NVB's are 16/16 - hard to beat for the cheap RP that they are. If you miss out on stocking up on these when they open to you - I think you will have a hard time farming for a suitable replacement for the amount that you need. Don't forget - farming is a hit and miss thing. It's fine to do but you need to spend your RP's wisely as well.

Nobody has ever told me just to wait for Exceleros..........

[sexkitteh]

People talk about having 300 exceleros - soooo I'm going to wait till I can buy 300 exceleros then spend the rest on other stuff.

Besides the blast guard helmet is 6/14. It almost makes up for that 2 point defense difference vs the nvb...

That should hold over till the super highend RP items.

[sexkitteh]

I'm not too concerned about my att/defense at lower levels... As long as I can block MOST attacks I'm happy.

But when I reach the high levels, I'd like to NOT loose EVERY fight.

So I think it's better to save everything till you are in the 100s...

[Bala82]

Have you seen new update on android it says new weapons but i only seen 1 or 2 new weapons :(.

[sexkitteh]

I don't see any new weapons at all o_0

I did see the LE items that popped up for a few hours the other day... is that what you are referring to?

[tempt]

Have you seen new update on android it says new weapons but i only seen 1 or 2 new weapons :(.

Where did you see this? I am not seeing anything new that I can tell.

[Bala82]

Well remember i am new to game but have you updated it ?

There gun cost 360 respect Attack 22 Defence 14 never seen it before unlock at level 42
There this Vest attack 5 Defence 11 cost 80,000 never seen it before.

I am not sure if these are new but they look new to me

[tempt]

Well remember i am new to game but have you updated it ?

There gun cost 360 respect Attack 22 Defence 14 never seen it before unlock at level 42
There this Vest attack 5 Defence 11 cost 80,000 never seen it before.

I am not sure if these are new but they look new to me

I think you are seeing "new" items that are revealed to you as you level up :) Those are not "new" to the game, but just that until you reached a certain level, you don't even see those items.

[msjo]

People talk about having 300 exceleros - soooo I'm going to wait till I can buy 300 exceleros then spend the rest on other stuff.

Besides the blast guard helmet is 6/14. It almost makes up for that 2 point defense difference vs the nvb...

That should hold over till the super highend RP items.

But you need good attack scores to fight to get the thug life goals that give important respect rewards. Defense is fine, but I think you'll also want to do some attacking.

[Bala82]

The biggest mistake i see are player high attack score but weak defence scores.

[tempt]

I think someone mentioned that you should try to keep def = 2x atk to be sure you are well protected.

[Bala82]

I haven't lost any fight in almost 10 days my last record was 6 days. :)

[kykboxr]

Yesterday was somewhat productive. Many thanks to White Frog for the spreadsheet. I'm approaching 10K IpH and will hit that today (from 9K yesterday). I'm in a situation where I will lay low until the next event comes as that's where a bevy of my experience/RP/cash come from. Built up a few low level spots, will build those up to L4/5, finish the warehouse 'project' to L7 (at 6 now), see what that gives me and keep that until I BE or need space. My next upgrade is $260K, and don't plan on using that soon as I still can build, and at worst, I can remove the last six guard towers for room. Will replace those with MG turrets.

[sexkitteh]

kykboxr - get your defense up so you can no at least try to no bank. how many mob members do you have at lvl20?

Invest in items if you are going to camp for a little while... (and obviously only invest in whatever gives you the best defense)...

[joaquim]

I haven't lost any fight in almost 10 days my last record was 6 days. :)

Congratulations. Is your streak still alive right now?

[Bala82]

Congratulations. Is your streak still alive right now?

Yes when getting attacked but not attacking :(

[Bala82]

Just built my first Dominican Restaurant need to save up for my second

[Dreno33]

The biggest mistake i see are player high attack score but weak defence scores.

not necessarily.... Just a play style really.

I know I would never attempt to rob/attack him if his attack was 2x as strong. That means I'm on his newsfeed and he will try and farm me

[Dreno33]

random, important tip to get your economy boosting fellas:

Save up for first MT by leveling up other buildings (LMs, ice-cream shops, basketball courts, italians, etc) then after you have two, keep saving up for next upgrade while leveling up other buildings.

Then when you have just enough money to upgrade, make sure the MT is your next upgrade when the current upgrading is finished. keep doing this to leveling it to 4. then move on to Lofts.

I promise your economy will produce much more money much less time.

[kykboxr]

random, important tip to get your economy boosting fellas:

Save up for first MT by leveling up other buildings (LMs, ice-cream shops, basketball courts, italians, etc) then after you have two, keep saving up for next upgrade while leveling up other buildings.

Then when you have just enough money to upgrade, make sure the MT is your next upgrade when the current upgrading is finished. keep doing this to leveling it to 4. then move on to Lofts.

I promise your economy will produce much more money much less time.

Thanks for the tip D