Desalinisation Plant - where to expand?

[thedarkprince]

I've searched the forum and can't find an answer to this but where do I need to expand in order to build a desalinisation plant? Is it like the shipyard and dry docks i.e. on the coastline or is it out to sea?

[Luke7676]

Have mine all in the water. So land isn't a good idea. Just all water.

[Dreno33]

I'm still to low of a level to unlock but i DO KNOW that if the pic shows water underneath the building, it is water. if it shows part land part water, its both.

hope this helps

[thedarkprince]

Thanks for the replies.

Dreno33 - can't really remember what the shipyard and dry docks looked like but that does make perfect sense.

[Mcdoc]

It is just like the Oil Rig - has to be completely over water.

Dreno, buddy, pal - I know you want to help, but in questions where you can't possibly know the real answer because of your low level and lack of game experience, let us old farts answer :) It makes you look like a Flan Gremlin - pooping on the post just to post :) Love ya pal - but this is where the frowns come in for people that might already have a bitter taste in their mouth from other posters who constantly give advice beyond their experience that has to be corrected or retracted later - which just leads to overall confusion. You'll get there soon - and us old farts will be hanging on life support up in the high 100's - popping into the forums less and less.

Still love your spirit to help people though :)

[Dreno33]

It is just like the Oil Rig - has to be completely over water.

Dreno, buddy, pal - I know you want to help, but in questions where you can't possibly know the real answer because of your low level and lack of game experience, let us old farts answer :) It makes you look like a Flan Gremlin - pooping on the post just to post :) Love ya pal - but this is where the frowns come in for people that might already have a bitter taste in their mouth from other posters who constantly give advice beyond their experience that has to be corrected or retracted later - which just leads to overall confusion. You'll get there soon - and us old farts will be hanging on life support up in the high 100's - popping into the forums less and less.

Still love your spirit to help people though :)

but... i wasn't wrong... i said what i knew was true. hoping that would help. couldn't have hurt!

[Dreno33]

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McDoc... i love being right ;]

[Mcdoc]

but... i wasn't wrong... i said what i knew was true. hoping that would help. couldn't have hurt!No problem bro - I was just trying to say nicely what I figured someone else might say way different.

The picture is what is confusing people because it looks like it would be all sea, but logic would tell you that a Salt Water plant might be partly on land. I wasn't even sure if I could place it until I actually bought one :)


McDoc... i love being right ;]

BTW - that picture you are showing is not the Desalination Plant - that's the Dry Docks that unlock specific Sea Units - the Desalination Plant is a money building - your first clue should be that the top of your picture says:"Unit Buildings". Sorry bro - now I'm just being a grumpy old fart & a Smart Azz.

Like I said, love your spirit of helping others - "the force is strong with this one" - :)

[Chiefer]

It goes 6ft below ground on the edge of the dead sea.

Additional details:
I have 2.

[Bronson]

Has anyone upgraded them yet if so what's the payouts so far? Want to know if it's worth the expansion cost

[Thunder Child]

I have one at level 3.... Pays 73,500 every 12hrs... Relatively cheap and quick to upgrade. I think they are well worth the expansion cost, and I paid 9m for the first plot and 9.5m for the second!

[Bronson]

Cheers TC any chance of a full blow explanation -
Cost + Time per level????

[Bronson]

Look at me staying On Thread lol

[Harnj]

I think this might me an extra useful info to you. 1 expansion size is 14x14. Naval research center is 12x12, oil rigs are 12x12 each, and desalinization plants are 10x10 each. So with only 4 consecutive straight water expansions, you can fit all 5 buildings in perfectly. Calculations: 14x4(4 expansions)=56. 12x1(1 naval research center)+12X2(2 oil rigs)+10x2(2 desalinization plants)=56. Hope this helps :)

[Bronson]

I think this might me an extra useful info to you. 1 expansion size is 14x14. Naval research center is 12x12, oil rigs are 12x12 each, and desalinization plants are 10x10 each. So with only 4 consecutive straight water expansions, you can fit all 5 buildings in perfectly. Calculations: 14x4(4 expansions)=56. 12x1(1 naval research center)+12X2(2 oil rigs)+10x2(2 desalinization plants)=56. Hope this helps :)

This will really help some of the noobs who haven't got to the oil rig stage yet but looks like I need an expansion for each of the plants

[Thunder Child]

Sorry mate, I'm not one to keep a record, and when you get past 60 (!!!!!) it's hard to remember...now watch me get back OT... I think initial build was just 2 hours, then 6 and 10. Cost wise, I think L3 was about 350K but with the alzheimers, can't be sure... At my age, BTW, I get a kick out of the esthetics of things, so I'm beyond trying to squeeze stuff into small spaces (cue OT for you!), so I have 7 water plots for all my water buildings

[EnjoyLife]

Desalination Plant Payouts:
1 $21,000
2 $42,000
3 $73,500
4 $115,500
5 $168,000
6 $231,000
7 $304,500
8 $388,500
9 $483,000
10 $630,000

[Bronson]

Sorry mate, I'm not one to keep a record, and when you get past 60 (!!!!!) it's hard to remember...now watch me get back OT... I think initial build was just 2 hours, then 6 and 10. Cost wise, I think L3 was about 350K but with the alzheimers, can't be sure... At my age, BTW, I get a kick out of the esthetics of things, so I'm beyond trying to squeeze stuff into small spaces (cue OT for you!), so I have 7 water plots for all my water buildings

Lol yeah so many jokes. Thanks for the info tho and stop ruining my Bronson streak lol

[Thunder Child]

@ Bronson.... Nagh!

[Gixxxah_Ridah]

I have both of mine and both are at level 3. I agree they are a good investment and a quick build. I had to expand my water unit space, but was smart enough to figure out that I could squeeze in the naval research, the two oil rigs and the two desanilation plants into 5 lots. I'm now in the $8million per expansion level so for the moment i'd rather spend that money on upgrades and buying stronger units.

[Joe Brown1]

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McDoc... i love being right ;]

Interesting that the dry docks now require lvl 50. I am only lvl 41 and have had one for months, since well before lvl 20. They must have changed things.

[Bronson]

I only got 3 water space so will defo need 2 more

[Dreno33]

No problem bro - I was just trying to say nicely what I figured someone else might say way different.

The picture is what is confusing people because it looks like it would be all sea, but logic would tell you that a Salt Water plant might be partly on land. I wasn't even sure if I could place it until I actually bought one :)



BTW - that picture you are showing is not the Desalination Plant - that's the Dry Docks that unlock specific Sea Units - the Desalination Plant is a money building - your first clue should be that the top of your picture says:"Unit Buildings". Sorry bro - now I'm just being a grumpy old fart & a Smart Azz.

Like I said, love your spirit of helping others - "the force is strong with this one" - :)

i know i know i know lol. i showed the picture to prove to him that what i claimed to KNOW, was fact and that I was not talking out of my butt. that was the point of the pic. i know its not the desalinisation plant, lol. we confuse each McDoc. but i know what you mean, hopefully you get was i was trying to say/do now(:

[Dreno33]

I think this might me an extra useful info to you. 1 expansion size is 14x14. Naval research center is 12x12, oil rigs are 12x12 each, and desalinization plants are 10x10 each. So with only 4 consecutive straight water expansions, you can fit all 5 buildings in perfectly. Calculations: 14x4(4 expansions)=56. 12x1(1 naval research center)+12X2(2 oil rigs)+10x2(2 desalinization plants)=56. Hope this helps :)

it would only fit if in a straight line of expansions though, not a square

[Dreno33]

bumping thread to top (in hopes McDoc reads my previous post)

(:

[Mcdoc]

Saw it :). Still think it's funny how it progressed and looked like you posted the wrong pic - LoL

[Tate]

Interesting that the dry docks now require lvl 50. I am only lvl 41 and have had one for months, since well before lvl 20. They must have changed things.Yeah, they did. Right about the time I hit lvl 15 and now I'm waiting...... Patiently.........

[Maverick50727]

Interesting that the dry docks now require lvl 50. I am only lvl 41 and have had one for months, since well before lvl 20. They must have changed things.Yeah the only constant is change. It depends on when one started the game. For us old farts that have access to everything already it is hard to answer the required level as we already have it and that might have changed. To be sure us older seniors would have to look at the data file posted by the likes of Digitalwalker.
If you see lower level people who have buildings but aren't at the required level yet, it doesn't necessarily make them hackers or cheaters either. Most likely they are old fart campers who had them before the devs changed things.

As for payouts it is easy to figure out as all money building payouts go by a formula. The costs are a different story.

Bronson they are good IMO. I have 2 myself and like they say the costs and time are low.

[Freekizh]

Can't really see why you need these fancy buildings - except to get the super hornet...maybe..

[el_gringo]

I have it on one of the spots which is coastline - about 20% land, 60% water. It overhangs the land ever so slightly.

[el_gringo]

Ach Scheiße, just realised that the post giving the info on all the water sizes messes up my plans completely, I'd thought oil rigs were 10x10 and had figured out a good way of fitting them in with adequete land based defense. Way to rain on my parade!

[Harnj]

it would only fit if in a straight line of expansions though, not a square That's what I said. 4 consecutive straight water expansions.

[Bronson]

Yeah the only constant is change. It depends on when one started the game. For us old farts that have access to everything already it is hard to answer the required level as we already have it and that might have changed. To be sure us older seniors would have to look at the data file posted by the likes of Digitalwalker.
If you see lower level people who have buildings but aren't at the required level yet, it doesn't necessarily make them hackers or cheaters either. Most likely they are old fart campers who had them before the devs changed things.

As for payouts it is easy to figure out as all money building payouts go by a formula. The costs are a different story.

Bronson they are good IMO. I have 2 myself and like they say the costs and time are low.

Thanks Mav always value your opinion so when my current expansion is complete I will get some free sea space for a couple of these beauties

[Maverick50727]

Thanks Mav always value your opinion so when my current expansion is complete I will get some free sea space for a couple of these beauties
Before people start hitting me up more, the example formula is this for what EnjoyLife posted. It is in most spreadsheets people have genreated and shared. If you have the base payout the multipliers for each level money builiding are the same. A maxed building is 30 times the base payout

Desalination Plant Payouts:
1 $21,000 = base
2 $42,000 =base*2
3 $73,500 =base*3.5
4 $115,500 =base*5.5
5 $168,000 =base*8
6 $231,000 =base*11
7 $304,500 =base*14.5
8 $388,500 =base*18.5
9 $483,000 =base*23
10 $630,000 =base*30

[Dreno33]

Thanks for the replies.

Dreno33 - can't really remember what the shipyard and dry docks looked like but that does make perfect sense.

Darkprince, I'm calling you out right now to ask of your honesty for something that Chiefer has brought to my attention and just want to clear things up. Was I rude in any way, shape, or form on how I answered your question in this thread?

[thedarkprince]

No not at all, I got what you meant so appreciated the feedback. The upgrade has about 12 hours left so I'll know for sure tomorrow morning. Then I may hunt you down...

[andrewdennis81]

output = (0.25*o)x^2+(0.25*o)x+(0.5*o)
x = the level of the upgrade
o= the original output of the building

EG: Desalination Plant, Level 3
x=3
o=$21,000

Output= (5250)3^2+(5250)3+10500
= $73,500

- I've never tried to calculate the time to upgrade, or the price of the upgrade as a function of the level of an upgrade.

Enjoy

[Dreno33]

lol just reread McDoc and I's conversation/confusion. hahah

[LeBarticus]

Definitely cheap and quick to upgrade, mine are at level 6 @ 231k every 12hrs. Not bad, not bad at all!

[possum]

There's no science to this game; there's nothing to stew over or even worth breaking out a calculator for.

If you guys can't figure it out yet, keep trying.

[manbeast]

There's no science to this game; there's nothing to stew over or even worth breaking out a calculator for.

If you guys can't figure it out yet, keep trying.

i think you have some mental health issues man. get on some anti-depression meds or just stop coming on here with that negative attitude. nobody needs that.

and for someone who has the whole game figured out, you arent very helpful

[possum]

Actually I'm trying to be very helpful.

[Kiss Of Death]

Before people start hitting me up more, the example formula is this for what EnjoyLife posted. It is in most spreadsheets people have genreated and shared. If you have the base payout the multipliers for each level money builiding are the same. A maxed building is 30 times the base payoutDesalination Plant Payouts: 1 $21,000 = base2 $42,000 =base*23 $73,500 =base*3.54 $115,500 =base*5.55 $168,000 =base*86 $231,000 =base*117 $304,500 =base*14.58 $388,500 =base*18.59 $483,000 =base*2310 $630,000 =base*30Interesting maths, Definately an incentive to max out as multiplier seems to jump in 0.5 increments until the end when it jumps by an extra 2 on the normal 0.5 on previous base i.e. starts at 1, then +1.5 to give 2 then+2,+2.5 and so on but last jump is from 4.5 to 7! Does the cost to build the final upgrade also cost a lot more than normal? If not that's a great incentive to focus even on the smaller cheap ones FTP level 10 first before the next and so on!!!

[possum]

For a lot of you, this game fulfills a well-known psychological need. A reward sensor engrained in your head. But the only thing this game is about is how much money you're willing to spend. Community, "help," whatever, you'll realize what I'm saying sooner or later; it's inevitable. Hence, my help, in a cynical type of way...lol.

Actually, I come here occasionally to see what I'm talking about in-action.

[manbeast]

what a sad life you life bro. possum is the perfect name for you bc even though your alive, you arent living... you really think you know us and our psychological needs by reading what we say on an internet forum? give me a break.

[possum]

Whatever makes you feel better. At least I don't spend my life on a "pointless" forum for an even more pointless game.

[manbeast]

Whatever makes you feel better. At least I don't spend my life on a "pointless" forum for an even more pointless game.

ok so you arent here and you dont play this game... cool story bro

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[Thunder Child]

Whatever makes you feel better. At least I don't spend my life on a "pointless" forum for an even more pointless game.Perhaps you should just delete the game, quit the forum and watch TV....