New Buildings!

[EnjoyLife]

Desalination Plant - 12 Hour Collection - $21,000 Collection - $720,000 Cost

Detention Facility - Defense 35 - Range 12 - $900,000 Cost

[bigflan]

Desalination Plant - 12 Hour Collection - $21,000 Collection - $720,000 Cost
Geothermal Plant - 6 Hour Collection - $56,000 Collection - 250 Gold CostWhoot Whoot this is AWSOME

[-->FISH<--]

We need defense in the water....New buildings get us to 100 builds though.

[bigflan]

We need defense in the water....New buildings get us to 100 builds though.Actually it two the geo plant is not new

[StuN]

Time to build 2 more water squares 😃

[-->FISH<--]

free players couldn't build 100 buildings now they can

[Thunder Child]

Desalination Plant - 12 Hour Collection - $21,000 Collection - $720,000 Cost

Detention Facility - Defense 35 - Range 12 - $900,000 Cost
All water site?

[Thunder Child]

Wait a minute, is the detention facility a water defense? Looks like it might be - Alcatraz type facility?

[MaverickMunkey]

Wait a minute, is the detention facility a water defense? Looks like it might be - Alcatraz type facility?

Nope its a land one!

[War Priest]

Two threads of the same topic...?

[Sugarymama]

I'm not that excited about the new buildings. I would rather see new units..

[EnjoyLife]

Two threads of the same topic...?

This one was started first.

[Poopenshire]

Land expansion is too expensive as it is now. With these new ones it's gonna cost me a fortune to expand any more!

[-->FISH<--]

This is why they are raking in the money...everytime they disappoint us they put something out and we respond like kids in a candy store.

[-->FISH<--]

what are you paying POOP?

[Poopenshire]

what are you paying POOP?

The one I have currently going was like 3.9 mil I think.

[-->FISH<--]

i'm paying 8.5 it makes a few huge jumps along the way

[Maverick50727]

i'm paying 8.5 it makes a few huge jumps along the wayMy next one is 11mil. Just a little past the max vault.

[Wildfire]

My next one is 11mil. Just a little past the max vault.

You're lucky my current one is 13mil, I don't know what's next but at that cost a desalination plant will have to be a very long term investment indeed!

[EnjoyLife]

Yeah, expansions cost a lot now...

[Thunder Child]

Not gonna break my back over the defense building. Takes up a huge area. Different matter if it were for the water. Take two of the desalination one, though. A muffled thank you, Funzio!

[EnjoyLife]

I'll probably get all of them. I got all of the free ones up to now.

[StuN]

Very limited range on the Det Facility for quite a large build area

[EnjoyLife]

Very limited range on the Det Facility for quite a large build area

It still is free indestructible defense for your defense score, though.

[Wildfire]

It still is free indestructible defense for your defense score, though.

Free, it's going to cost me 15mil just to buy the land to build one on!

[Thunder Child]

It still is free indestructible defense for your defense score, though.
And hardly indestructible.... Can be knocked out by a determined player, negating it's defensive value until reset.

[StuN]

How is it free? It says $960k plus the cost of the land & TC is right, it's not indestructible

[Hellstorm]

Defense buildings only add to your defense score when being raided not attacked... And since most people attack it doesnt really add to your defense score. Oh and as mentioned before its not free ;)

[EnjoyLife]

Free? Who knows what I was thinking. I was half-asleep :)

True, they can knock it out, but it's free to repair. They have a lot of my buildings to knock out, if they are going to go that route.

Defense buildings help defend against attacks and against raids.

[JMC]

Defence bring up your alliance defence score, so it helps with attacks as well. Likely helps against raids more, but how much idk. It's also much easier for the enemy to win a raid, so it all cancels out.

I don't see any of the new buildings yet. And Geothermal is old like someone else said.

[Thunder Child]

Free? Who knows what I was thinking. I was half-asleep :)

True, they can knock it out, but it's free to repair. They have a lot of my buildings to knock out, if they are going to go that route.

Defense buildings help defend against attacks and against raids.
I was hit by someone who is not 'unknown' by some of the higher level players as he passed through the 90s into the water beyond, and he vaporized EVERYTHING in sight, and I mean EVERYTHING!

[EnjoyLife]

Very limited range on the Det Facility for quite a large build area

What is the size of the Detention Facility? I still have over a day on my building that's in progress.

[JMC]

I think the detention facility is about the size of an armory.

I've got to expand twice in the water and 3 or so times on land now. Gotta make 60mil+ for the land.

[GIJOE]

What is the size of the Detention Facility? I still have over a day on my building that's in progress.
I don't know the dimension but it's same size as Military Market.

[Hello Kitty]

I don't know the dimension but it's same size as Military Market.If that's the case, then the Detention Facility is 10x10. Desalination Plant is also 10x10.

[War Priest]

If that's the case, then the Detention Facility is 10x10. Desalination Plant is also 10x10.

Where do you guys get these numbers at?

[Hello Kitty]

Where do you guys get these numbers at?Originally from Tramp Stamp's spreadsheet. I've made my own updates and have been tracking separately since there were some missing data.

You could also use a land square (14x14) as a reference and overlay a building without building or permanently moving it then count the difference in squares (movement by row or column in any direction is 1 square).

[EnjoyLife]

Where do you guys get these numbers at?

Count the units of measure when maneuvering the buildings around. You get 10 units of measure (tics) going both ways on the Military Market. A land expansion is 14x14 (if I recall correctly).

[hound]

I don't know the dimension but it's same size as Military Market.

The detention facility is the same size as the command center.... Where is everyone getting the measurement from? Can't be from measuring the screen?? Would be different from iPhone to iPad.. I think the mine field is still a better buy, smaller and greater range of coverage.... Which I don't think it really matters, if your army is strong enough to fend off attacks.

[Hello Kitty]

The detention facility is the same size as the command center.... Where is everyone getting the measurement from? Can't be from measuring the screen?? Would be different from iPhone to iPad.. I think the mine field is still a better buy, smaller and greater range of coverage.... Which I don't really matters, if your army is strong enough to fend off attacks.Command Center and Military Market are both 10x10.

[War Priest]

Originally from Tramp Stamp's spreadsheet. I've made my own updates and have been tracking separately since there were some missing data.

You could also use a land square (14x14) as a reference and overlay a building without building or permanently moving it then count the difference in squares (movement by row or column in any direction is 1 square).


Count the units of measure when maneuvering the buildings around. You get 10 units of measure (tics) going both ways on the Military Market. A land expansion is 14x14 (if I recall correctly).

Ok I get it. Wasn't sure how they came up with 14x14 but I see now.

[JMC]

Command Center and Military Market are both 10x10.

Are you just going off the spreadsheet? because a military market is way bigger than the command center.

[Hello Kitty]

Here's a quick lookup table:

I originally used a spreadsheet from another player who I believe had access to code. I have since have been validating the dimensions as I go. It can be easily done using a land or water square (14x14) as a reference and overlaying a building without building it or permanently moving it then count the difference in squares (movement by row or column in any direction is 1 square).

Note: My command center is 10 x 10. I have received feedback that there is an 8 x 8 dimension. I started playing beginning of March 2012, so perhaps there was a change?


Size

Name

Building



4 x 4

Oil Derrick

Money




Storage Silo

Money



5 x 5

Guard Tower

Defense




SAM

Defense




Turret

Defense



8 x 8

Bunker

Defense




Holding Cell

Defense




Munitions Stockpile

Money




Supply Depot

Money




Wind Farm

Money



9 X 9

Armory

Money




Communication Center

Money




Fortified Bunker

Defense



10 x 10

Command Center

Money




Desalination Plant

Money




Detention Facility

Defense




Steel Mill

Money



11 x 11

Composites Factory

Boost




Electronics Factory

Boost




Military Market

Money




Ore Mine

Money




Weapons Factory

Money



12 x 12

Cement Factory

Boost




Chemical Plant

Money




Electric Power Plant

Money




Genetics Lab

Boost




Infirmary

Boost




Natural Gas Plant

Money




Naval Research Center

Boost




Nuclear Power Plant

Money




Oil Refinery

Money




Oil Rig

Money




Recycling Plant

Money



13 x 13

Satellite Array

Money



14 x 14

Land / Water

Territory



16 x 16

Airship Hangar

Boost



???

Mine Field

Defense




Missle Launch Pad

Money




Nanotech Factory

Money

[War Priest]

Kitty is your spreadsheet private or public?

[bigflan]

Hey hey why is there no gold building on the thing you posted

[Hello Kitty]

Are you just going off the spreadsheet? because a military market is way bigger than the command center.Originally went off the spreadsheet, but I've been validating every building as I build them. If you were to move a command center and place it over a military market, it's exactly the same footprint.

[JMC]

Well that is wrong. The command center is 8x8 and the military market is 10x10.

[JMC]

Originally went off the spreadsheet, but I've been validating every building as I build them. If you were to move a command center and place it over a military market, it's exactly the same footprint.

You must have a huge command center or something than.

[bigflan]

Well that is wrong. The command center is 8x8 and the military market is 10x10.He is right did you just mix up names then

[Hello Kitty]

Hey hey why is there no gold building on the thing you postedJust 1, Composites Building, it's the only one I've built and could validate.

[Hello Kitty]

You must have a huge command center or something than.I just checked it again - my command center and military market are the exact same dimensions: 10 x 10.

Funzio, with the high cost of real estate, I would like my 2 x 2 back!

[hound]

Oh, yeah, they are the same size.... If Funzio comes out with a "Round" building- you will all be messed up!

[JMC]

I think there was a bug that was talked about a while ago about some people having 2 command centers. One big one and one small one. Looks like you guys are stuck with the big one.

These are the building sizes i know of:

4x4
Oil Derrick, Storage Silo

5x5
Guard Tower, Turret, SAM Turret, Railgun, Flak Cannon, EMP Cannon

7x7
Minefield

8x8
Command Center, Supply Depot, Wind Farm, Munitions Stockpile, Bunker, Holding Cell

9x9
Armory, Communication Center, Space Center, Fortified Bunker

10x10
Steel Mill, Military Market, Robotics Facility

11x11
Air Field, Composites Factory, Diamond Mine, Weapons Factory, Ore Mine, Chemical Plant, Barracks, Electronics Factory

12x12
Electric Power Plant, Oil Refinery, Recycling Plant, Elite Training Facility, Nuclear Power Plant, Natural Gas Plant, Geothermal Plant, Nanotech Factory, Infirmary, Genetics Lab, Cement Factory, Oil Rig, Navel Research Facility

13x13
War Factory, Advanced Air Base, Satellite Array

14x14
Shipyard, Dry Docks

16x16
Airship Hangar

[Hello Kitty]

Oh, yeah, they are the same size.... If Funzio comes out with a "Round" building- you will all be messed up!For sure hound! Then I will have to reevaluate my entire land square footage to include the area of circles (pi * r^2 formula) in my calculations. But since the land is in a square, I will just estimate using the diameter of any "future" round building. So far I have maximized my available space and have only lost a total of 12x12 to the uneven size buildings. My biggest solid wasted space is 5 x 3, then the next is an 11 x 1 row.

[Bronson]

For sure hound! Then I will have to reevaluate my entire land square footage to include the area of circles (pi * r^2 formula)

Sometimes you just blow my mind - I'm gonna call you Hello Einstein lol ;)

[Hello Kitty]

Sometimes you just blow my mind - I'm gonna call you Hello Einstein lol ;)Bahahaha! Though the formula is accurate, I was totally playing around. Round buildings will only mean more wasted space since the land is square :)

[Bronson]

Bahahaha! Though the formula is accurate, I was totally playing around. Round buildings will only mean more wasted space since the land is square :)

Yeah I just checked it myself and the formula is accurate!! lol

Round buildings would be the worst tho, so lets put them in a little funzio box labelled "never to be opened"

[JMC]

There wont be any round buildings. They don't even have rectangular buildings in MW.

[hound]

For sure hound! Then I will have to reevaluate my entire land square footage to include the area of circles (pi * r^2 formula) in my calculations. But since the land is in a square, I will just estimate using the diameter of any "future" round building. So far I have maximized my available space and have only lost a total of 12x12 to the uneven size buildings. My biggest solid wasted space is 5 x 3, then the next is an 11 x 1 row.

Next "Friday feedback"' I will recommend Octagons and Hexagons! This will put a new meaning to fitting a round peg into a square hole!