Attack and Defend Numbers Rule of Thumb

[frenda]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything along these lines, so I thought I'd start a thread. Haven't seen anything in months of being on here either, unless I just plain missed it.

Instead of asking for players' opinions about how much ATK and DEF points to have, I thought I'd ask everyone to post their numbers and stats for their current level and then we can all draw our own conclusions as to what works. To keep some mystery, we don't have to post how many skill points you've added to ATK and DEF.

I'll start:

Level: 78
Jobs Completed: 2767
Fights Won: 2430
Fights Lost: 223
Robberies Won:1856
Robberies Lost: 198

# of Mafia: 386
Total Attack: 9080
Total Defense: 10641

Discuss... (And I look forward to any constructive criticism from higher level players).

BTW, 119 M4A1 and 61 Rusty M4A1.

[kinghansen]

My level and stats are in my signature. For my mafia size and level I'm one of the strongest around. Its rare that anyone is able to rob me and I haven't seen players with higher stats than mine, even gold spending players.

[frenda]

Thanks KH. I was at about the same level and stats last week and I agree. I'm just trying to see what the trend is as players go up in levels. I figure as long as I can maintain a 10:1 won:loss record, I'm doing good.

[Santa]

KH passed me about a week ago. His stats are better than even the few gold spenders I see around.

[frenda]

So what are yours, Santa?

[jmeijer]

Level: 112
Mafia size: 500
Attack: 11800
Defense: 15700
Income/hr: $96,500

Now working on respect points and boosting my economy. When I hit lvl113, I will buy 2 Pirate Taverns.

Edit: 36 M4A1's, 60+ Rusty M4A1's

[Ramshutu]

Level 95
Mafia 353
Atk 15162
Def 17104

I would say I'm in the second tier of players for my level.

[Nicholost]

Frenda, you might find more value in having everyone post their average att & def per mafia member. That average is independent of mafia size and should provide a better indication of strength within the level.

Following your suggestion:
Level: 91
Attack: 14799
Defense: 18472
Mafia: 283

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 52.29
Def/mafia: 65.27

If you want an indication of my strength, I've been no-banking for 6 weeks with no successful attacks against me. Ramshutu had a successful robbery against me and broke my streak, but he came looking for me specifically and was the first successful robbery in more than 6 weeks. I was sure to return the favor. http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h257/nicklepics/nothing%20of%20use/Emoticons/prrr.gif

[Xira]

Stats are in my sig. Theres a couple guys floating around under 130 with better stats, but super rare. Only big time gold spenders could compete, however once I pass 130 I am sure the competition will begin to climb steeply.

[Thinks]

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad290/ThinkRSX/96b8abea.jpg

[Ramshutu]

Frenda, you might find more value in having everyone post their average att & def per mafia member. That average is independent of mafia size and should provide a better indication of strength within the level.

Following your suggestion:
Level: 91
Attack: 14799
Defense: 18472
Mafia: 283

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 52.29
Def/mafia: 65.27

If you want an indication of my strength, I've been no-banking for 6 weeks with no successful attacks against me. Ramshutu had a successful robbery against me and broke my streak, but he came looking for me specifically and was the first successful robbery in more than 6 weeks. I was sure to return the favor. http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h257/nicklepics/nothing%20of%20use/Emoticons/prrr.gif

And I still haven't forgiven you, >(

[Aid]

Level 135
Jobs completed 5168
Fights won 28679
Fights lost 639
Robberies won 4497
Robberies lost 82
Mafia 513
Attack 29366
Defense 35863

[Xira]

Level 135
Jobs completed 5168
Fights won 28679
Fights lost 639
Robberies won 4497
Robberies lost 82
Mafia 513
Attack 29366
Defense 35863

I am coming for you...

[Nicholost]

I am coming for you...

Xira's giving out free hugs today.

[Burn]

Level 113
Jobs completed 2629
Fights won 17731
Fights lost 164
Robberies won 4638
Robberies lost 80
Mafia 602
Attack 28012
Defense 29440
Income 64k p/hr

[Ghost818]

Level: 151
Attack: 49,397
Defense: 53,827
Mafia: 500

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 98.79
Def/mafia: 107.65

Take into consideration, this includes gold items and a full arsenal of M4a1s 470 of them (even though i only use about 270)

P.S. Nose picker I took your format, great minds think alike.

[Nicholost]

P.S. Nose picker I took your format, great minds think alike.

Do you think about steak, beer, and boobs all day as well?

[mnju_03]

Xira did I rob your lvl2 NC today???

[Ghost818]

Do you think about steak, beer, and boobs all day as well?

In order:
Boobs>Beer>>Steak

[frenda]

Gotta have priorities!!! :)

Nich, how do you determine atk/def per mafia? Did you use your spreadsheet or just divide?

[mnju_03]

Do you think about steak, beer, and boobs all day as well?


YUP!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsbQrS6yC4A

[Nicholost]

Nich, how do you determine atk/def per mafia? Did you use your spreadsheet or just divide?

Yep, just divide. Total attack/defense divided by # of mafia.

@mnju_03 - Epic. Great scene.

[mnju_03]

Yep, just divide. Total attack/defense divided by # of mafia.

@mnju_03 - Epic. Great scene.

Yup! I watch that movie too much. lol

[frenda]

Can't remember what movie that's from now...

[frenda]

Duh, the video finally came up for me.

[Shumaker]

Level- 102
# of Mafia - 277
Jobs Completed-5299
Fights Won- 1743
Fights Lost- 1099
Robberies Won- 7529
Robberies Lost- 1005
Total Attack- 8626
Total Defense- 9988
M4A1's- 98
DD- 12
Rusty M4A1's- 2
Attack per Mafia Member - 31.25
Defense per Mafia Member- 36.06


Not sure how my numbers rank among everyone else's. Any and all constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[Joeycool]

Level: 177
Attack: 53092
Defense: 56353
Mafia: 500

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 106.18
Def/mafia: 112.71

[Ghost818]

Level: 177
Attack: 53092
Defense: 56353
Mafia: 500

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 106.18
Def/mafia: 112.71
You using explosives bro?

[Joeycool]

only atk explosives. mostly hand grenades I think.

[Ghost818]

only atk explosives. mostly hand grenades I think.
I see. I havnt quite invested in explosives yet. Only because Im trying to build my economy as fast as possible (started my first NC a day ago)

[617Pats]

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[Swearengen]

lvl 87
jobs completed 1757
Fights won 6969
Fights lost 165
Robberies won 14977
Robberies lost 12

Mafia 252
ATK 13084
DEF 17371
$92,751/hr

atk/def mafia: 48/48

[Shumaker]

Thats some dirty Att/Def there JC. I'm impressed

Level: 177
Attack: 53092
Defense: 56353
Mafia: 500

That breaks down to:
Att/mafia: 106.18
Def/mafia: 112.71

[Joeycool]

Thats some dirty Att/Def there JC. I'm impressed

Thanks mate! Even so... I still get my ass handed to me daily!

[Shumaker]

Lol i feel ya on that. I think it just goes back to that old saying "There is always someone out there that is better than You"

Thanks mate! Even so... I still get my ass handed to me daily!

[Joeycool]

Lol i feel ya on that. I think it just goes back to that old saying "There is always someone out there that is better than You"

Exactly... which is why my advise to people is put everything you have into attack.

[doug19]

Level: 108
Mafia: 414
Att: 19581
Def: 20794
Income: $112284
M4A1: 303
DD: 15
Also I'v a hand grenade for each person and 50 gatling turrets

Per member I'm...
Att: 47.30
Def: 50.23

Edit: I haven't been succesfully attacked or robbed in ages (apart for when I sync)

[Shumaker]

I've got to say JC I agree with you. I'm more attack and my defense has just been acquired with loot drops and other items I have bought or received. I haven't bought or farmed anything geared directly having to do with defense. I just put my money in the bank, and collect my buildings when they are ready to be collected. I've got them all pretty much set up on 12 hour collection schedules with the exception of my flower shop, Italian Restaurants, and Laundry Mats.

Exactly... which is why my advise to people is put everything you have into attack.

[Joeycool]

The best form of defence is to collect your buildings on time!

[Shumaker]

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

[frenda]

Level: 80
Mafia: 397
Att: 9898
Def: 11369
Income: $190,093
M4A1: 119
DD: 0

Per Mafia member I'm:
Att: 24.93
Def: 28.64

I figure I can pick and choose who I attack, so I put most of my points into defense, and it's working out right now. I agree with collecting on time, but I can't synch my stuff effectively due to my screwy schedule. I guess if I started setting timers, I'd be able to get a handle on it, but that's too much effort considering how little I get robbed right now.