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JohnnyR
03-22-2012, 08:16 PM
Discuss your new pvp experiences, missions, units, etc.

Just got a defensive cannon, 10/20-heeeelllllll yeah!

Thanks much devs!

Mcdoc
03-22-2012, 08:24 PM
Do you know if they fixed the PvP casualty rate?

I stopped attacking a few days back when THIS was my result of a battle I WON.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9061/mwloss.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/mwloss.jpg/)

$14 Won - Loss $640,000 Osprey and $75,000 Drone.

Net loss - $714,984 on a battle that I was the Winner!

JMC
03-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Do you know if they fixed the PvP casualty rate?

I stopped attacking a few days back when THIS was my result of a battle I WON.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9061/mwloss.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/mwloss.jpg/)

$14 Won - Loss $640,000 Osprey and $75,000 Drone.

Net loss - $714,984 on a battle that I was the Winner!

Thats been pretty normal for the last couple months

Jizzlestix
03-22-2012, 09:40 PM
yah i pretty much dont attack ever anymore for that reason and that my game crashes 1 in 2 chances when i attack

Luke7676
03-22-2012, 09:43 PM
Just got a typhoon tiger heli 24a 14d in pvp. Not bad. I'm likeing this new patch so far. And my losses have been minimal with just 1 amp trooper per attack lost so far.

Jizz I am still having crash probs as well but only every 6 or 7 attacks on average. It was much worse for me a couple months ago almost every attack app would crash. Make sure you exit out of the window each time you attack. It helps

spytime
03-22-2012, 09:51 PM
Err,, I lost another "low damage" super hornet in the second fight... Improve or not???

Need to try more to see it really improve or not.

JMC
03-22-2012, 09:57 PM
Oh they added some of those loots to PvP that could only be gotten from missions before. I was wondering why johnny would be happy about getting a defensive cannon.

Maverick50727
03-22-2012, 09:57 PM
OK, I guess I'm not crazy. My guess is that they just introduced some new PvP Loot in the patch/new content tonight based on feedback. Not sure if new loot is for all or by level. I just reached L93. I recently did some snapshot results of my attacks and units between 3/8-3/13. I did 2455 attacks during this time period and accumulated the following PvP loot quantity and units.
Border Commander 17 - 7A/11D
Mountain Citadel Tank 16 - 10A/9D
Heavy Bomber 32 - 9A/7D
Border Gunship 38 - 5A/5D
Oil Aircraft Carrier 41 - 3A/5D
Satellite Truck 86 - 1A/5D
Battle Tank 80 - 3A/4D
Trafficker Gunman 42 - 5A/4D
Jungle Helicopter 62 - 1A/3D
Old Battleship 76 - 2A/2D
Tree Sniper 173 - 3A/0D

There was never a deviation and never got any other loot units. Only the top 2 were even used in units taken to battle, so all loot was useless to me. I suddenly noticed this evening I got a mini sub which I had never got outside of loot farming. Then a different Frigate loot. WTF. Minutes later I got the new content notice. After that I noticed in addition to the loot above I have also scored the following in PvP thus far:
Heavy Artillery 14A/9D
MiniSub 8A/6D
Bombardment Frigate 13A/12D

Maverick50727
03-22-2012, 10:00 PM
On another note, there appears to have been a patch to losses also, but for the worse in my case. As stated above in I did 2455 attacks between 39-3/20. But what I have kept secret was that I had absolutely ZERO unit loses. Yes, I really mean no units lost at all in 2455 attacks. I became invincible from the moment I installed the 1.5 update. Minutes before the patch even when I had dropped my ally count down to an incredible low of 61 allies at L79, I still lost 1 unit in about 5-10 attacks. Costly when they were always hornets or cruiser due to my unit makeup. Instantly after the 1.5 no losses during the entire ammo box event. I had expected the high losses to resume at the end of the event as a few others stated having no or low losses. I continued to attack cautiously after the event ended but I seemed to still have 0 losses. I didn't lose my first unit again until 3/21 and against an equal with tons of gold units. In 434 attacks since I have lost 9 more units (4 seals, 2 mc tanks, 2 subs, 1 cruiser). Still low but no longer invincible. I have increased my ally count up and leveled to L93 now.
Is my loss resumption explained by some threshold of ally count I have passed or the result of some patch? Not 100% sure, but I definitely have seen different results in the last 2 days (434 attacks) than the previous week (2455 attacks).

Any thoughts or similar experiences??? I'm tempted to drop allies again to see if I can get 0 losses again, but my PvP goals now require me to complete attacks with people 2-3 times my ally count, so it is starting to get hard to complete just because I can't see them in my rivals list without increasing my allies. I don't want to give up valor goals for 0 losses.

Luke7676
03-22-2012, 10:02 PM
Err,, I lost another "low damage" super hornet in the second fight... Improve or not???

Need to try more to see it really improve or not.

Man that sucks.. The reason I probably only lose amp troopers is cause I have over 250 of them and I know there's truth in the numbers of the same units you bring to battle. Seems more probable to lose a unit that not only has a higher casualty rate but out numbers the rest of your units.

JMC
03-22-2012, 10:06 PM
10 Attacks against someone with 6 allies and 777 total alliance defence. Vs my 44508 Attack.

1 sniper, 1 spectre gunship
1 sniper
0
1 sniper
1 gruff terrorist
1 sniper
1 Stealth Frigate
0
0
1 Military Police Truck, 1 M270 MLRS

Lost a bit less money units than usual, but this is only 10 attacks so idk.
Still lost 2 valor units, so it's not even worth it to try missions still.
On someone with a 60th of my stat, i should be losing 0 units most of the time. Or all the time if you go back to casualty rates before it got messed up.

JMC
03-22-2012, 10:13 PM
On another note, there appears to have been a patch to losses also, but for the worse in my case. As stated above in I did 2455 attacks between 39-3/20. But what I have kept secret was that I had absolutely ZERO unit loses. Yes, I really mean no units lost at all in 2455 attacks. I became invincible from the moment I installed the 1.5 update. Minutes before the patch even when I had dropped my ally count down to an incredible low of 61 allies at L79, I still lost 1 unit in about 5-10 attacks. Costly when they were always hornets or cruiser due to my unit makeup. Instantly after the 1.5 no losses during the entire ammo box event. I had expected the high losses to resume at the end of the event as a few others stated having no or low losses. I continued to attack cautiously after the event ended but I seemed to still have 0 losses. I didn't lose my first unit again until 3/21 and against an equal with tons of gold units. In 434 attacks since I have lost 9 more units (4 seals, 2 mc tanks, 2 subs, 1 cruiser). Still low but no longer invincible. I have increased my ally count up and leveled to L93 now.
Is my loss resumption explained by some threshold of ally count I have passed or the result of some patch? Not 100% sure, but I definitely have seen different results in the last 2 days (434 attacks) than the previous week (2455 attacks).

Any thoughts or similar experiences??? I'm tempted to drop allies again to see if I can get 0 losses again, but my PvP goals now require me to complete attacks with people 2-3 times my ally count, so it is starting to get hard to complete just because I can't see them in my rivals list without increasing my allies. I don't want to give up valor goals for 0 losses.

Hmm so quite a few people got the zero losses glitch during 1.5 patch. Wish i had that. Too bad it's patched now.

War Priest
03-22-2012, 10:21 PM
Crime City is having a 20% OFF sale so I imagine we will be getting one here shortly. =)

phucera
03-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Do you know if they fixed the PvP casualty rate?

I stopped attacking a few days back when THIS was my result of a battle I WON.

$14 Won - Loss $640,000 Osprey and $75,000 Drone.

Net loss - $714,984 on a battle that I was the Winner!

I don't think the game creator simple give out a battle result that base on the calculation of Attack or Defense point.
We have 04 types of Unit, each Unit have connection each other, you should not equip warplanes only, even very strong power plane, because your warplane is under the target of Ground unit like Tanker, cannon..., the ground Unit is wiped out by Infantry Units...My experience is buying all 04 types, especially, using Valor to buy units with "Strong against..." feature.

My Units:
1, Infantry Unit:
- Jungle Stalker (Strong Against Infantry), 60 soldiers, 25 valors/pc
- Gign (Strong Against Infantry): (no any)
2, Ground Unit:
- Avenger (Strong Against Air): 100 pcs, 100 valor / pc.
- Anti Aircraft Vehicle (Strong Against Air): 30 pcs (by cash)
3, Air Unit:
- Strike Eagle (Strong Against Air): 90 pcs, 150 valor / pc.
- Seahawk Helicopter (Strong Against Sea): 40 pcs, 50 valor / pc.
4, Sea Unit:
- Submarine (Strong Against Sea): 220 pcs (by cash)
- Combat Boat (Strong Against Infantry) 100 pcs, 75 valors/pc.
and some other kinds of Infantry, Ground, Air, Sea Unit.
http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq67/phucera/2.png
During attack I often lost Ground Units, I think this due to the shortage of Infantry units of mine, so rival's soldiers easily wiped my ground units out.

youj
03-22-2012, 10:42 PM
Do you know if they fixed the PvP casualty rate?

I stopped attacking a few days back when THIS was my result of a battle I WON.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9061/mwloss.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/mwloss.jpg/)

$14 Won - Loss $640,000 Osprey and $75,000 Drone.

Net loss - $714,984 on a battle that I was the Winner!

You shouldn't attack people with Drones. I always make sure most of my army use the cheapest attack units with highest casualty rate when attacking. In this case, I think you should buy 1000 snipers before attacking anyone like this.

On another note, I don't really like Osprey, too expensive and its stats are all over the place. If you want defence, get Military Ambulances (84k). If you want attack, get Commandos (85k). These two combinations are a lot cheaper and relatively the same stats.

Before you get all the expensive units, you should always have max out the next best and cheapest attack/defence units before doing pvp. It will save you a lot of money and make pvp worth it.

Mcdoc
03-22-2012, 11:29 PM
The reason my drones came into the attack is because I lost SO many units during the Lockbox event that my total units dropped from 1600 down to 1100 while my Allie count went up from 185 to 325 - so I now have every single unit going into battle. I need to shed about 100 allies to get my forces back into balance or try to pick up another 1000 units.

I was scrambling to pick up allies before crossing over to level 90 - currently at 84 (see pic) in anticipation of becoming Shark bait - but oh well - my strategy worked against me. Time to adjust my belt and get back in the game.

digitalwalker
03-23-2012, 03:29 AM
Refresh the ravil list a few time, then Try to fight with those ravils with lower allies than urs in ur ravil list, rather than those having higher allies.

If u fight with a guy having much lower ally than urs, the casualty is nearly zero.

Mine is the case, not sure about u guys. Very strangely, we playing the same game but suffer different casualties.

Judicium
03-23-2012, 04:26 AM
OK, I guess I'm not crazy. My guess is that they just introduced some new PvP Loot in the patch/new content tonight based on feedback. Not sure if new loot is for all or by level. I just reached L93. I recently did some snapshot results of my attacks and units between 3/8-3/13. I did 2455 attacks during this time period and accumulated the following PvP loot quantity and units.
Border Commander 17 - 7A/11D
Mountain Citadel Tank 16 - 10A/9D
Heavy Bomber 32 - 9A/7D
Border Gunship 38 - 5A/5D
Oil Aircraft Carrier 41 - 3A/5D
Satellite Truck 86 - 1A/5D
Battle Tank 80 - 3A/4D
Trafficker Gunman 42 - 5A/4D
Jungle Helicopter 62 - 1A/3D
Old Battleship 76 - 2A/2D
Tree Sniper 173 - 3A/0D

There was never a deviation and never got any other loot units. Only the top 2 were even used in units taken to battle, so all loot was useless to me. I suddenly noticed this evening I got a mini sub which I had never got outside of loot farming. Then a different Frigate loot. WTF. Minutes later I got the new content notice. After that I noticed in addition to the loot above I have also scored the following in PvP thus far:
Heavy Artillery 14A/9D
MiniSub 8A/6D
Bombardment Frigate 13A/12D
A couple new PVP units I got are:
Typhoon Tiger 21A/14D
Metro Tank 15A/17D

What?
03-23-2012, 04:30 AM
Loot from pvp so far.

Armed steel worker 14/14
Iron bear 7/8
Rebel humvee 4/8
Defensive cannon 10/20
Iron wing 21/16
Mini sub 8/6
Predator sub 26/14
Bombardment frigate 13/12
Elite brigadier 23/19

Judicium
03-23-2012, 04:36 AM
Hmm so quite a few people got the zero losses glitch during 1.5 patch. Wish i had that. Too bad it's patched now.From the few people who has reported this on the forums, seems like the only connection is that they are/were free players.

plavine
03-23-2012, 07:18 AM
My attack is ( was before battle around 17000.
His def was 12400.

i Attacked him 10 times and won each time. gaining a battle tank and two other units from him
However, He did not incur any other losses and I got somethibng that I have never seen before.


I ACTUALLY LOST 5 UNITS in a battle that I won.: 2 rangers, 1 sniper, 1 old battle ship, 1 Frigate.

in the 6 battles, I lost 2 frigates, 2 stealth frigates, 1 chinook helicopter,1 GIGN all "low" casualty rate.

He does have a level 3 infirmary, but does that raise my casualty rate????


all total , I lost 250 attack points in 10 battles that I won.

JMC
03-23-2012, 07:29 AM
From the few people who has reported this on the forums, seems like the only connection is that they are/were free players.

Nah the first person to report it, zyn has good units.

Bronco928
03-23-2012, 09:01 AM
Loot from pvp so far.

Armed steel worker 14/14
Iron bear 7/8
Rebel humvee 4/8
Defensive cannon 10/20
Iron wing 21/16
Mini sub 6/8
Predator sub 26/14
Bombardment frigate 13/12

add
Ghost Operative 20a 19d

KCh
03-23-2012, 12:35 PM
Casualties for me are still getting worse. I attacked someone with $1.2 Billion yesterday 5 times. His defense is 6k with 92 allies, my attack is 47.5k. I lost 4 MLRS, 2 stealth frigate, 6 biowarfare troop, 1 anti-aircraft, 1 harrier, 1 leopard tank.

I took $1,5000,000 from him but I lost $1,485,000 worth in money units and 1750 in valor units.
So I made $15,000 and lost 6 strong valor units so I quit attacking him.

Also from what I've heard, the armed infirmary doesnt seem to have any affect on lowering the casualties.

Angirl
03-23-2012, 12:46 PM
I have been PVP all day and have not looted anything other than the normal rubbish.

JMC
03-23-2012, 01:38 PM
Im thinking that the new loots you get are either stolen from the person you attack or are only droppable if they have them. When i attack people with lots of allies and lots of loot units i get all these units that i'd normally get from missions, even loot from bosses.

But when i attack someone with no allies only bringing in w/e valor/cash units they have, i only get the regular loots like the tree sniper, border gunship etc.

What?
03-23-2012, 02:49 PM
Loot from pvp so far. Any others to add?

Armed steel worker 14/14
Iron bear 7/8
Rebel humvee 4/8
Defensive cannon 10/20
Iron wing 21/16
Mini sub 8/6
Predator sub 26/14
Bombardment frigate 13/12
Elite brigadier 23/19
Mobile artillery 14/9
Ghost operative 20/19
Typhoon tiger 21/14
Metro tank 15/17

Bronco928
03-23-2012, 03:24 PM
Casualties for me are still getting worse. I attacked someone with $1.2 Billion yesterday 5 times. His defense is 6k with 92 allies, my attack is 47.5k. I lost 4 MLRS, 2 stealth frigate, 6 biowarfare troop, 1 anti-aircraft, 1 harrier, 1 leopard tank.

I took $1,5000,000 from him but I lost $1,485,000 worth in money units and 1750 in valor units.
So I made $15,000 and lost 6 strong valor units so I quit attacking him.

Also from what I've heard, the armed infirmary doesnt seem to have any affect on lowering the casualties.

You know, I have had simlar issues when attacking someone who is significantly weaker. Maybe that's Funzio's way of protecting the weaker players? Conversely, when attacked by someone that has sick numbers like 150,000A & 180,000D, I may lose 1 unit, or even 0. However, someone that is only 10,000A higher than your defense might decimate troops, killing 5-10. There are many variables to be considered, but this seems to happen fairly consistantly.

JMC
03-23-2012, 03:36 PM
You know, I have had simlar issues when attacking someone who is significantly weaker. Maybe that's Funzio's way of protecting the weaker players? Conversely, when attacked by someone that has sick numbers like 150,000A & 180,000D, I may lose 1 unit, or even 0. However, someone that is only 10,000A higher than your defense might decimate troops, killing 5-10. There are many variables to be considered, but this seems to happen fairly consistantly.

The casualties increase as i attack someone with more and more strength, they're not trying to protect the weakest players, the whole system is just broken.

Also i tend to not lose units if i am attacked and the guy is within 10k-15k attack as my defence. However if someone with more than that attacks me i start losing a lot.

My guess is that the guy with 150K attack only hit you once because he really has no need to hit you. However the guy with 10K more stat than you, hit you all 10 times because they need you for valor missions or w/e.

Agent Orange
03-23-2012, 04:50 PM
Im thinking that the new loots you get are either stolen from the person you attack or are only droppable if they have them. When i attack people with lots of allies and lots of loot units i get all these units that i'd normally get from missions, even loot from bosses.

But when i attack someone with no allies only bringing in w/e valor/cash units they have, i only get the regular loots like the tree sniper, border gunship etc.

Now that is an interesting observation, I suggested that a couple of months ago....

Dillinja
03-23-2012, 05:25 PM
I just took my allies from 320 to 18. first PVP and no losses and I gots me a shiny new metro tank.
Think i'll stay at the bottom of the barrel and see how it pans out

Bronson
03-23-2012, 05:39 PM
Just picked up a Heavy Artillery 14/9 not to shabby

Thunder Child
03-23-2012, 05:55 PM
Dillinja, what level are you? Are your new targets same level or similar (low) allies? Interested in following this strategy....

digitalwalker
03-23-2012, 05:59 PM
Below lvl90s. Ravils are always in similar level and with similar ally numbers as urs.

Dillinja
03-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Dillinja, what level are you? Are your new targets same level or similar (low) allies? Interested in following this strategy....
I'm level 66 and intend to camp (ally count) here for a bit. Having very few allies means you only bring your strongest units to battle.
I'm surprised at how many people there are fishing at the bottom. some heavy campers with low stats...time to go hunting ;)

Thunder Child
03-23-2012, 06:13 PM
So a good strategy might be to stay where I am for now (80s) and work on securing good stats and top units, then dip down to the bottom of the pool for a few weeks to reap cash for expansion, Space Center, Nanotech Factory etc..... later re-recruiting allies when I want to come back up again..... Only problem being I will now have leveled up quite a bit and will be well and truly in the killing ground at level 100+

stricker
03-24-2012, 01:54 PM
my last 6 attacks that I WON:
------------------------
my attack = ~16,000
rivals def. = ~4,400
-------------------------
casualties:
2 snipers
1 A10
1 sea hawk
1 avenger
2 gign
(550 in valor cost) ouch

loot:
1 satellite truck
1 briefcase
~30 valor points
--------------------
working on... Multiple Fronts: Operation 35 --- Win 38 consecutive battles w/o losing any battles.

hellokitty
03-24-2012, 08:07 PM
I still see the PVP system in Modern War as essentially broken. Attacking hurts players more than it pays off. Of course, players always have their cash in their vaults so directly attacking anyone will never result in any form of monetary gain.

Even while raiding high-end buildings at level 83, you will end up losing tanks and planes worth more than $250,000 while only gaining $50,000 in cash.

If attacking and raiding actually punish players instead of rewarding them, why would they engage in it?

bigflan
03-24-2012, 08:15 PM
I still see the PVP system in Modern War as essentially broken. Attacking hurts players more than it pays off. Of course, players always have their cash in their vaults so directly attacking anyone will never result in any form of monetary gain.

Even while raiding high-end buildings at level 83, you will end up losing tanks and planes worth more than $250,000 while only gaining $50,000 in cash.

If attacking and raiding actually punish players instead of rewarding them, why would they engage in it?

No not really I benifet from attacking I'm unbeatable because people don't check that I have gold units and attack me randomly I make sure the person I am attacking Is a guarrented win this may not always work but it is a effective strategy

Thunder Child
03-24-2012, 08:28 PM
I believe there is actually another benefit to such losses.... It may actually help weed out weaker units from the inventory the attacking player is carrying. Many of us stock up on too many of what are the strongest units at lower levels, which then need to fall away somehow to make way for stronger units as we move up in the game. I have personally found that even after some seemingly bad losses, my stats appear to have actually improved marginally...

JMC
03-24-2012, 09:16 PM
Stats only improve when the valor rewards from PvP goals are higher than the valor unit casualties. Currently my valor missions pay out 2100+ and the 9 attack one isn't even worth it.

JohnnyR
03-24-2012, 10:07 PM
Might be a bit of a streak going on but a rash of Ospreys has bitten the dust on me. Anyone feel like checking out the spec sheet on casualty rates? Not sure how to go about finding these or how they were found the first time around.

stricker
03-24-2012, 10:13 PM
Might be a bit of a streak going on but a rash of Ospreys has bitten the dust on me. Anyone feel like checking out the spec sheet on casualty rates? Not sure how to go about finding these or how they were found the first time around.
0.00335 consumption rate
"low"

War Priest
03-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Lost a $1mil Rocket Truck during a raid to somebody with 2000 defense and attack. Ouch...

stricker
03-24-2012, 10:37 PM
Lost a $1mil Rocket Truck during a raid to somebody with 2000 defense and attack. Ouch...
...this last update is delivering some of the worst pvp casualties i've experienced in a while. I didn't write it down, but on my last 7 attacks i lost well over a 1mil in unit replacement cost and a super hornet... very, very painful and not justifable to continue attacking... oh yeah, i'm talking fights i've won.

i've been attacked 3x today.
lost 2 fights, in which lost a briefcase, 1 medic & $530 of my vaulted cash.
won 1 fight, in which won $1 & lost 1 medic

aaaaarrrgh! now i'm 2585 wins & 79 lost on fights!!!!

Col.34w
03-24-2012, 10:41 PM
I believe there is actually another benefit to such losses.... It may actually help weed out weaker units from the inventory the attacking player is carrying. Many of us stock up on too many of what are the strongest units at lower levels, which then need to fall away somehow to make way for stronger units as we move up in the game. I have personally found that even after some seemingly bad losses, my stats appear to have actually improved marginally...
I would agree with this for what has been my recent experience. I am at level 62 and have not been PvP as much as most here. But have now have checked the waters for the past two days. Invasion op 50 pays 350 valor. Force deg pays 150 plus each PvP valor per fight between the two missions you get ~650 total Valor. I have been losing my AT's and other cheap army on every battle, but have been gaining better units buying Super Hornets and Stealth Frigates . My attack and defensive scores gave increased slowly, but the quality of my units in battle will be of great benefit in the future. I think PvP unit losses have been reduced and am losing units you would expect to lose.

War Priest
03-24-2012, 10:41 PM
I can win an attack with no causalties obviously, but that was the first I have ever lost a unit to a low stat non-gold player. WTF.

Before the updates, I have lost unit's to lower stat gold player's but that is suspected. But to this guy, no.

stricker
03-24-2012, 11:05 PM
I would agree with this for what has been my recent experience. I am at level 62 and have not been PvP as much as most here. But have now have checked the waters for the past two days. Invasion op 50 pays 350 valor. Force deg pays 150 plus each PvP valor per fight between the two missions you get ~650 total Valor. I have been losing my AT's and other cheap army on every battle, but have been gaining better units buying Super Hornets and Stealth Frigates . My attack and defensive scores gave increased slowly, but the quality of my units in battle will be of great benefit in the future. I think PvP unit losses have been reduced and am losing units you would expect to lose.
give me some of what your having then... although I might be increasing in att/def by tiny millimeter terms with the acquisition of higher end valor units w/pvp valor missions, I would never be able to justify a third of the units that are falling as "weaker" units per reference to Thunder C's post. We are talking per unit cost of 60k and up or even high end loot items, like capital battle tanks, etc.

some of the units i lost in the last 7 attacks I previously mentioned, were 2 mini-subs, 2 submarines, 1 mobile tact unit, 1 anti-aircraft vech, 1 bio-warfare, 1 frigate, 1 super hornet, 1 heavy bomber, 1 seal, 6-9 snipers/flamethowers/ATs. (i'm talking fuzzy #/units here, though. don't have accurate record, but will start doing so... well, if I decided to test the waters again!)

Dillinja
03-25-2012, 05:57 AM
I just lost 2 super hornets in 1 attack.... Ouch!

Sugarymama
03-25-2012, 06:02 AM
PVP isn't as much fun now because you're always worried about losing valuable units to a weaker player. It just doesnt make any sense. Not that the underdog can't win sometimes, or come out of battle unscathed, but its becoming ridiculous now. Winning $ is pretty rare. Although I did get over $300k from one dude last week. That was pretty sweet.

I lost a Hornet in a battle too recently, but quickly replaced it.

Dillinja
03-25-2012, 06:25 AM
Hey T how's you hun? can you send me a request to add you pls? I did a mass delete a few days ago as I'm skimming $$$ from low ally players atm.

Sugarymama
03-25-2012, 06:34 AM
Hey Dillinja. No problem. I could have sworn that I saw you on my list last night..I'll check again.

I thought rivals/players were grouped by level, and not ally list. I have people on my rivals list that range from 200 - 3000 allies...

Col.34w
03-25-2012, 10:43 PM
give me some of what your having then... although I might be increasing in att/def by tiny millimeter terms with the acquisition of higher end valor units w/pvp valor missions, I would never be able to justify a third of the units that are falling as "weaker" units per reference to Thunder C's post. We are talking per unit cost of 60k and up or even high end loot items, like capital battle tanks, etc.

some of the units i lost in the last 7 attacks I previously mentioned, were 2 mini-subs, 2 submarines, 1 mobile tact unit, 1 anti-aircraft vech, 1 bio-warfare, 1 frigate, 1 super hornet, 1 heavy bomber, 1 seal, 6-9 snipers/flamethowers/ATs. (i'm talking fuzzy #/units here, though. don't have accurate record, but will start doing so... well, if I decided to test the waters again!)

Well today i dropped allies to find easier targets as suggested here..Not working out very well! My Att and def dropped a tad but I am winning battles and llosing expensive units..Almost a million bucks in units lost doing one damn valor mission..I even lost 2 stealth frigates to players with half my stats..I am going to ally back up and see if I can get back to losing meats..my stats aRe lv 62 ..had 310 allies. Dropped to 260..

Mcdoc
03-26-2012, 10:25 AM
Well today i dropped allies to find easier targets as suggested here..Not working out very well ..had 310 allies. Dropped to 260..

You gotta find the "Sweet Spot". I dropped from 365 to 100 and I'm truly the man of steel now :)

War Priest
03-26-2012, 10:27 AM
You gotta find the "Sweet Spot". I dropped from 365 to 100 and I'm truly the man of steel now :)

Are you all gold now Mcdoc?

Mcdoc
03-26-2012, 10:35 AM
Are you all gold now Mcdoc?

Nah - didn't feel the need to drop down THAT low. Besides, I only have about 80 gold units and some of my valor units actually have higher stats - so really I would just be Gold/Valor. Besides, I've only lost one unit (granted it was a super hornet) in my last 300 attacks/raids. Looked at his base and really shouldn't have lost anything - but I guess that plane had an equipment failure or something :)

I'm assuming you probably have over 400 Gold units - so 100 allies probably would make you all gold :)

bigflan
03-26-2012, 10:37 AM
I have only 3 gold units

stricker
03-26-2012, 11:02 AM
You gotta find the "Sweet Spot". I dropped from 365 to 100 and I'm truly the man of steel now :)
Hey Superman... how many docs so far? ...this event should be in the bag for you! you're an MC(dj)doc, right. (ok, a real stretch and kinda lame, i know...lol)

What is your density now MD?

Mcdoc
03-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Hey Superman... how many docs so far? ...this event should be in the bag for you! you're an MC(dj)doc, right. (ok, a real stretch and kinda lame, i know...lol)

What is your density now MD?

Yes - I am a DJ - but MCDoc was the nickname given to me by the Marines I used to work with when I was a Navy Corpsman - MC = Marine Corps & Doc is the nickname for a Corpsman - AND - the double meaning of being a DJ (emcee).

Anyway, I'm laying back on this event - the last one seemed to be too rigged against any real chances. I've got 2 opened so far with like 12 unopened. Not going to kill myself trying this time since I had like 20 gold opens last time with very crappy Valor, Allie! And other USELESS loot that I can get for free! I hate wasting gold on Shiat.

PLUS - the casualy reduction on the ambulance from the last event doesn't seem to be legit for a lot of people. My casualty only went down when I dropped Allies.

Not sure what you mean by density?

War Priest
03-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Yes - I am a DJ - but MCDoc was the nickname given to me by the Marines I used to work with when I was a Navy Corpsman - MC = Marine Corps & Doc is the nickname for a Corpsman - AND - the double meaning of being a DJ (emcee).

Anyway, I'm laying back on this event - the last one seemed to be too rigged against any real chances. I've got 2 opened so far with like 12 unopened. Not going to kill myself trying this time since I had like 20 gold opens last time with very crappy Valor, Allie! And other USELESS loot that I can get for free! I hate wasting gold on Shiat.

PLUS - the casualy reduction on the ambulance from the last event doesn't seem to be legit for a lot of people. My casualty only went down when I dropped Allies.

Not sure what you mean by density?

Was you ever a Corpsman at MCRD?

Mcdoc
03-26-2012, 03:34 PM
Was you ever a Corpsman at MCRD?

Nope. But I did spend all 10 years of my active service in San Diego. I saw that you mentioned visiting MCRD in another post and meant to ask if you were visiting a son or friend down here. I'm in Oceanside / Vista at the top of San Diego near Camp Pendleton - which is where I spent 8 years alongside Marines :). Did my 1st 2 years down at Balboa Hopital - about 2 miles from MCRD.

Are you already in Cali or was that a flight into San Diego for you?

War Priest
03-26-2012, 03:42 PM
Nope. But I did spend all 10 years of my active service in San Diego. I saw that you mentioned visiting MCRD in another post and meant to ask if you were visiting a son or friend down here. I'm in Oceanside / Vista at the top of San Diego near Camp Pendleton - which is where I spent 8 years alongside Marines :). Did my 1st 2 years down at Balboa Hopital - about 2 miles from MCRD.

Are you already in Cali or was that a flight into San Diego for you?

Flew in to visit at MCRD. Also went to Balboa while I was down there so I know exactly what your talking about.