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Rhino72
03-20-2012, 09:30 AM
Sorry guys but I would rather post here and ask instead of wondering if my energy will ever my first Empire Central bus. Since the Leila DD change has anybody had one of these drop off the Red Cascade?

Swifty
03-20-2012, 09:40 AM
After the change, they drop for me about 1 in 8.

If the spreadsheet is correct (0.12), then an 0 for 20 streak is within statistical norms.

Rhino72
03-20-2012, 09:44 AM
Thanks Swifty. I was sitting at 0 for 20 and I know bruiser said he dumped 10K energy with no results. I haven't seen anybody else post about it but that is probably because the Thinks "scared to post nerfbat" thread was what people are doing.

Swifty
03-20-2012, 09:54 AM
The 10k with no results is far outside statistical norms.

I have no idea how to explain that.

Ohaithere
03-20-2012, 10:17 AM
It didn't drop for bruiser either, I think only some can get

Thinks
03-20-2012, 10:23 AM
...but that is probably because the Thinks "scared to post nerfbat" thread was what people are doing.

What'd I do!? :(

Rhino72
03-20-2012, 10:29 AM
You posted a great thread the other day comparing the Forums to WWII (if I remember correctly). The point of your email was everybody is scared to post something to farm because it will eventually get nerfed after M4s and DDs. I thought it was a good point but I had to ask because I am putting some serious energy into the Red Cascade with nothing. I would rather move on to another spot if the rate is not the same as the spreadsheet. If anybody else other than Swifty has gotten a drop can you let me know? Thanks

Thinks
03-20-2012, 10:42 AM
Oh, okay... I thought I was in the crosshairs for doing something wrong.

My apologies.

Rhino72
03-20-2012, 10:48 AM
No but you were in the crosshairs the other day when I came across your hood (assuming you are the same Thinks I saw around level 112 and 25K + def?)

Thinks
03-20-2012, 10:58 AM
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad290/ThinkRSX/profile.png

Not quite 25k, nor are my stats very good.

Rhino72
03-20-2012, 11:00 AM
Ohh, yes I did like that 178k per hour! I am keeping my eye on you :-)

Swifty
03-20-2012, 11:03 AM
On the "dont' post or they will nerf" deal.

Funzio is going to take action or not take action based on their own internal data and their own internal discussions.

They see EVERYTHING, but taking action is a different matter.

They will take what we say into consideration, but the decision will be based on their own criteria.

Rhino72
03-20-2012, 11:08 AM
Yeah I agree and that is why I needed to ask the forum. I am still trying to weigh if I should be trying 170 energy against 2 * 263 energy. (170 energy has gotten me nothing where I have a few items to show for the 526).

Swifty
03-20-2012, 12:17 PM
I just got an Empire Central Bus from Red Cascade, so I am 1 for 9 in my last few tries.

Babytway
03-20-2012, 05:10 PM
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad290/ThinkRSX/profile.png

Not quite 25k, nor are my stats very good.

nice robbery numbers keep it up

mnju_03
03-20-2012, 05:23 PM
On the "dont' post or they will nerf" deal.

Funzio is going to take action or not take action based on their own internal data and their own internal discussions.

They see EVERYTHING, but taking action is a different matter.

They will take what we say into consideration, but the decision will be based on their own criteria.

Wasn't the story behind taking the M4A1 something about an error that they decided on fixing?

Swifty
03-20-2012, 06:19 PM
That was the cover story.

I would have loved to have been a mouse in the room eavesdropping on the actual discussions that took place.

mnju_03
03-20-2012, 06:32 PM
hmmmmm I see..

Bruiser
03-20-2012, 06:58 PM
20k for me and still no drops. I am determined to call Funzio out on this. Not happy if they drop for some and not for others on the same build...

Swifty
03-20-2012, 07:03 PM
@Bruiser

I am 1 for 19 in my latest streak, which is frustrating, but well within the statistical norms.

What you are describing is so far outside the statistical norms that it has to be something other than just random numbers at work.

thedogfather
03-20-2012, 07:34 PM
Sorry but could someone please share the 2*263 location?

I'm one of those that dropped 15m on Leila a day before it was nerfed. So want to make sure that the next location is worth the money..

Greetings from Auckland, NZ btw!

Swifty
03-20-2012, 07:44 PM
Police Car at Chemical Plant has a 2 x 263 Double Decker drop (12%).

Swifty
03-21-2012, 10:11 AM
My current streak at Red Cascade is 1 for 43.

I sincerely hope someone else is having good luck to balance that out.

Fricco
03-21-2012, 10:17 AM
My current streak at Red Cascade is 1 for 43.

I sincerely hope someone else is having good luck to balance that out.


swifty, i know you always get bad drop rates but keep hope as it is somewhat dropping.
i've got 8 in 3 days (not my only item to farm so my numbers may be off)
today i went 1/10 received it on 10th click . pattern was 0/3 0/3 1/4 .

Rhino72
03-21-2012, 10:31 AM
Swifty - after I saw you were 1 for 9 I decided to head back and try it again. 2 more 0 for 10s and I went back to the Chemical Plant because I had closer to 12% that is on the SS. I am wondering if the SS has an old drop rate????? With the cost now I almost feel better going back to complete 5 levels and getting my 1 extra stat point. Yay!

Rhino72
03-21-2012, 10:35 AM
Speaking of the drop spreadsheet, does anybody know who / how the stats get updated?

Twinkie
03-21-2012, 10:40 AM
Get off the red light district guys, wayyyy too shady there. I'm at arena plaza, much nicer and better there. ;);)

i need muney
03-21-2012, 10:41 AM
Speaking of the drop spreadsheet, does anybody know who / how the stats get updated?
No one I guess. If Discordia wished to update it he would've done so.

Swifty
03-21-2012, 10:48 AM
Thanks, Twinkie.

A change will do me good.

DuB
03-21-2012, 11:02 AM
4 for 5000 energy. Completely overlooked this one on the spreadsheet, so thanks again. Did you get my $$ swifty? Wouldn't know because someone spent all of their stamina going after my 1's and 3's.

Thinks
03-21-2012, 11:04 AM
Swifty, fear not good buddy! Apparently today is my lucky day!!! I'm going to head over to the Red Light District and bring my new found luck with me! Will post results shortly.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad290/ThinkRSX/TIMMYS.jpg

Swifty
03-21-2012, 11:06 AM
DuB, thanks again for the $$$$.

I owe you.

Swifty
03-21-2012, 11:07 AM
Thinks, I very much am looking forward to hearing about your continuing run of good luck.

DuB
03-21-2012, 11:13 AM
No problem. I built the G club and hotel right before the time change and have been struggling to stay up and collect them every night. Had the best night of sleep in a while last night.

Thinks
03-21-2012, 11:21 AM
0/3, 0/3, 0/3 ... Looks like my luck both started and ended with my coffee. :(

Well... it was fun for the five minutes it lasted.

doug19
03-21-2012, 04:25 PM
I'm on 0 for 8 completions at the chemical plant, has anyone had a drop from there?

DenZ1
03-21-2012, 07:51 PM
Not dropping anything.

Bruiser
03-21-2012, 08:37 PM
Swifty are you beta? I seriously have had nothing drop for me ever at Red Cascade

Swifty
03-21-2012, 09:23 PM
No beta, and I left Red Cascade with a 1 for 43, after a 2 for 16.

i need muney
03-21-2012, 09:48 PM
What the hell is Red Cascade?

Swifty
03-21-2012, 10:28 PM
@i need muney

RTFM.

Just kidding, heh.

Red Cascade is a red car in the Red Light District. Supposed to drop Empire Central Bus 15/17 at a 12% rate, 1 x 171 energy

doug19
03-22-2012, 02:12 AM
Has anyone had a drop at the chemical plant? I'm 0 for 10 and want to know if anyone else has had a drop there before I waste more energy and exp on it

Shoes
03-22-2012, 02:40 AM
Have not tried the Chem plant but can confirm swifty's findings on red light empire central bus 16 tried and 2 buses. did get a pimps lowrider yesterday pvp loot so now on 7 of those luminous puppies but just looked at my pvp stats 22,235 won 3,279 lost hmmm not very impressive hit rate!

otto
03-22-2012, 05:47 AM
noob question
where get DD ??
best corrent place/rating

:o

Rhino72
03-22-2012, 09:03 AM
Yes I have gotten DD drops at the Chemical Plant. I am 2 for 22 there so it isn't exactly fun wasting 526 energy and only getting 18K - 25K. If you are not trying for Urban Warfare vests or hitting up the Red Cascade then I think this is the best option. (I am 0 for 30 at the Red Cascade and I know Bruiser is on a bad stretch so I am guessing the 12% drop rate on the sheet is incorrect and has not been updated.)

Shoes
03-22-2012, 09:15 AM
just went 7 for 1 at the red cascade just hitting it whenever energy is high enough

i need muney
03-22-2012, 09:33 AM
@i need muney

RTFM.

Just kidding, heh.

Red Cascade is a red car in the Red Light District. Supposed to drop Empire Central Bus 15/17 at a 12% rate, 1 x 171 energy
First WTFM for me to read!
Thanks :) next nerf that be must.

TRAZ
03-23-2012, 11:19 AM
0/10 Red Cascade

0 drops at Chemical Plant

TRAZ
03-23-2012, 11:56 AM
so far 1/17 Red Cascade

Rhino72
03-23-2012, 12:32 PM
I am 0 for 50 now at the Red Cascade and I have to stop. I don't think the SS has been updated and from everybody posting I can't see it at a 12% drop.

deuces
03-23-2012, 12:35 PM
i'd guess i've had a ~20% droprate from the red cascade so far lol.

Swifty
03-23-2012, 12:38 PM
Which is odd, because one the Funzio staff said there were no other changes made.

Unless that counted as a bug fix.

Edit = This was referring to the 0 for 50 streak, and my own 1 for 43 streak.

Shoes
03-23-2012, 12:41 PM
Hi Rhino, red cascade has given me 2 so far today. i make sure i hit it when i have enough to do at least 8 hits and ideally 10. not great results tho and I am wondering if I ever will get my stats on vehicles?

Rhino72
03-23-2012, 01:20 PM
I started with 3 0 for 7s and then I did 2 O for 10s and 1 0 for 9. Nothing like watching that energy bar pop down to close to zero with nothing good to show for it. It feels like now it is just going to take a really long time to farm vehicles. I am plowing all my respect into Exeleros and I think I might go back and finish a few maps to get the 3rd completion vehicle prize. An 0 for 50 streak and 2 DDs at the Chemical Plant over the last 5 days makes me agree with you on the vehicle stats comment.

Swifty
03-23-2012, 01:40 PM
It figures that deuces good luck would balance my bad luck.

Karma, I would say.

deuces
03-23-2012, 01:52 PM
wait who's karma? my good or your bad? Dont take away from the powers of my luckbox!

Swifty
03-23-2012, 02:01 PM
@deuces

Good point that i did not think of until it was too late.

Just because I have bad luck does not mean I want to jinx your good luck.

Luke 3457
03-23-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm 1 -10 with sue that prude *****! She puts out like the girlfriend I had when i was in 5th grade, rarely and when u get it you wonder if all the time and energy was worth it.