Night Vision Binoculars

[Gaming Will]

How many NVB's is smart to have, just hit unlock level for chain whips so wondering if I should start using rp on that? Currently level 58 and have 80 NVB's .....

Thanks!!!

[i need muney]

I wouldnt buy any since it's not a long term investment.

[Ghost818]

If you are doing fine in your level without them, then you dont need more, save then for chain whips. BUT if you do feel the need for them then go for the investment, although it will depreciate and eventually become obsolete, it will take you a long way.

[Gaming Will]

What replaces them in armor?

[Ghost818]

What replaces them in armor?
Defense wise, Urban Warfare Vests. Attack wise I actually havnt looked into it believe it or not lool

[erik]

Not really a good attk option if I recall correctly.

[Ghost818]

Not really a good attk option if I recall correctly.
Yeah same here, thats why none come to my head as of right now lol

[jlhy]

If your looking strictly for an attack boost from armor and don't care about defense then NVB's are the way to go. Full combat gear gives 17attack while the NVB gives 16attack. However if your looking for both attack and defense save your respect points for Full combat gear later down the line.

There are no real armor alternatives that give better attack than NVB and FCG except for gold items. The next best alternative for attack is the Utility belt which gives 14attack or the Urban Warfare Vest which gives 11attack.

[Bruiser]

I wouldnt buy any since it's not a long term investment.

Useless information there muney...NVB's are definitely a long term investment. Show me an armour item with 16 attack thats readily available???...It depends on your level and how you play the game. Attack wise there are not too many options available to either purchase or loot. Most loot drops with some 15att etc are multi-click and only drops (if any) at completion which makesn them unattractive to most players. 16att is fantastic for Armour and 24 def when your economy is higher for FBI shields. That would be ideal for end game stats. Yes by all means save for Chain whips but accumulating 500 would take months if not a year.

[Bruiser]

If your looking strictly for an attack stat boost from armor and don't care about defense then NVB's are the way to go. Full combat gear gives 17attack while the NVB gives 16attack. However if your looking for both attack and defense save your respect points for Full combat gear later down the line.

explain why you would waste 800RP on FCG when FBI shields can be purchassed for $$$???

[jlhy]

explain why you would waste 800RP on FCG when FBI shields can be purchassed for $$$???

If your not planning on having a strong economy for a very long time FBI shields won't be a viable option.

[Bruiser]

If your not planning on having a strong economy for a very long time FBI shields won't be a viable option.

Yet PvP and PvE wont help you accumulate $$$ for purchase only RP?

[jlhy]

For players with weak economies it would be easier and faster for them to focus on FCG's than try to save up for FBI shields at 1.5 mil a pop.

[Bruiser]

And CW's??? Seem unattaintable to me...

[jlhy]

Gaming Will was asking about armor items not melee so I stuck to armor only.

[Bruiser]

How many NVB's is smart to have, just hit unlock level for chain whips so wondering if I should start using rp on that? Currently level 58 and have 80 NVB's .....

Thanks!!!

He actually asked for CW advice too :)

[jlhy]

Ah okay. Totally glazed over that part. Reading comprehension has failed me tonight. Definitely go with chain whips.

[dudeman]

explain why you would waste 800RP on FCG when FBI shields can be purchassed for $$$???

500 x FCG @ 800RP = 400k RP

500 x FBI Shield @ $1.5M = $750M

Both are late game items due to cost v return, IMO. One point in favour of FCG is that it can be gradually accumulated from the time it becomes available, whereas an investment of $1.5M per item depends entirely upon a very strong economy.

I am also curious as to which price tag takes longer to pay off for a player with only an average economy. 400k RP and $750M are both very costly investments.

[Gaming Will]

AWESOME insight guys thanks!

[Bruiser]

I am also curious as to which price tag takes longer to pay off for a player with only an average economy. 400k RP and $750M are both very costly investments.

Dudeman, you have to go with NVB's purely on the 16att/16def. FBI Shields are late game investments to which i agree with, however i discard FCG's totally as i believe there is an alternative in the FBI Shields and the Chain Whip does not have an alternative.

Personally i would go about 350 NVB's then move to Chian Whips. You will see a dramatic increase in your att/def stats this way :)

[Whip88]

Useless information there muney...NVB's are definitely a long term investment. Show me an armour item with 16 attack thats readily available???...It depends on your level and how you play the game. Attack wise there are not too many options available to either purchase or loot. Most loot drops with some 15att etc are multi-click and only drops (if any) at completion which makesn them unattractive to most players. 16att is fantastic for Armour and 24 def when your economy is higher for FBI shields. That would be ideal for end game stats. Yes by all means save for Chain whips but accumulating 500 would take months if not a year.

2.5 months i have been buying only CW's and i have 135

[Bruiser]

I would be about the same. I have 200 CW's now, That's to go along with my 350 NVB's, 300 Yamaha's (waste).

[Ohaithere]

I have 400 nvb which I think was a great investment, I am in the top 5 percent for my level at 113 and iv not spent any money in gold. I have 125 yams which I don't regret too much as it's taken me a week of savig and I'm still a few mil away from ldouble deckers. I'm now going for chain whips, currently n 69

[Bruiser]

Very nice...You seem to be on the right track

[CounterSniper]

I would be about the same. I have 200 CW's now, That's to go along with my 350 NVB's, 300 Yamaha's (waste).

So do you not advocate Yams at all or just not so many. I've got 66 and didn't plan on more than 75.

[Swifty]

I have 242 Yamaha Race Bikes. I do not consider them a waste because they were crucial to my earlier success and it will be a long time before they are all replaced.

I just started farming double-deckers and they are replacing junkers.

[Swifty]

@CounterSniper

If you can be successful without buying any more Yamahas, then don't buy them. When I got my Yamahas (a long time ago), it was the difference between winning and losing for me.

[Bruiser]

I didn't think they were a waste at the time as Swifty said...DD's were not readily available. Now they are and i basically have 7 of my 300 in play when attacked...I would have loved to put the 90k RP into CW's. I am saying Yamaha's are great early on but in small doses...75 sounds like a good number to sit with and really attack Leila, don't waste energy on anything else and you will reap the rewards.

[Whip88]

@CounterSniper

If you can be successful without buying any more Yamahas, then don't buy them. When I got my Yamahas (a long time ago), it was the difference between winning and losing for me.

i bought 100 and they have served there purpose actually still are, some items like yams and nvg are simply a great stepping stone to the end game.

[CounterSniper]

Thanks guys, I'm only on Lvl 100 so DD's are a little down the road for me but I think you've given me some prudent advice. Appreciate it.

Oh and I've got 100 nvg's, was gonna see how that holds for now as I have been getting CW's lately, got 50 now.

[Whoopdido1980]

2.5 months i have been buying only CW's and i have 135

That's pretty close to where I'm at too. I was just floundering around for the first month or so and then decided I was going to save all my RP to buy Exeleros when I unlocked them. At the time I was like 60 levels or more from unlocking them. I just banked all my RP and continued to flounder around. After reading some advice on this forum, I decided to just bite the bullet and spend all 90,000 plus respect on chain whips and forget about Exeleros. I think I made a good choice. I currently have about 210 chain whips, but I can't imagine earning enough respect to get about 250 more. I'm on Thug Life 185, so that's just about over. I'll still have Hardcore Hitman, but once the Thug Life goals are finished, it just seems like it'll take way too long to earn respect.

[Swifty]

I am done with Thug Life, so it seems like I am accumulating respect at a glacial pace.

[Whoopdido1980]

I am done with Thug Life, so it seems like I am accumulating respect at a glacial pace.

Yeah, do doubt. I mean just say on average you get 5 RP per fight. I don't know if that's high or low, but let's just use 5. Without Thug Life, you're basically earning half the RP or even less, depending on where you're at in Thug Life. 100 fights would get you 500 RP for the actual fights and another 500 RP for finishing the goal. Now, those 100 fights will only get you 500 RP instead of 1,000. At the lower levels you were earning even more, as you only had to accomplish say 50 fights to earn an extra 500 RP. Doing every single Thug Life goal was worth 94,500 RP (189 * 500) just for the bonus. At an average of 5 RP per fight, you'd have to do almost 19,000 fights to earn that.

I need to earn another 187,500 RP to get another 250 chain whips. That's another 37,500 fights. That seems completely out of reach at this point.

[Ohaithere]

Thug life only goes up to killing 88 people, so it is even slower to get rp when it is over

[Holicaholic]

My plan is to get to 100 CWs and then save for when I can buy exceleros. I'm at level 92, and ideally I'll get my RP items in either 100 or 50 item increments (not at once, but get 50 or 100 and then move on to the next item). My attack won't go up much between level 96 or so and level 115 because of this, but I think I'm ok with that.

[i need muney]

Useless information there muney...NVB's are definitely a long term investment. Show me an armour item with 16 attack thats readily available???...It depends on your level and how you play the game. Attack wise there are not too many options available to either purchase or loot. Most loot drops with some 15att etc are multi-click and only drops (if any) at completion which makesn them unattractive to most players. 16att is fantastic for Armour and 24 def when your economy is higher for FBI shields. That would be ideal for end game stats. Yes by all means save for Chain whips but accumulating 500 would take months if not a year.
Yeah, maybe your right Grady.
But think about the baby before you get all crazy :)
FCG is +1 in attack and +3 in defence against NVB and FBI...not so hot for the cost, eh?

[Ghost818]

To be honest. I've been saving my respect points for a while now, I have 20K saved up in case Funzio decides to add more to the high tier weapons.

[Dreno33]

FBI shields. those the (1/19) for like 210k? haven't unlocked that yet

[dudeman]

FBI shields. those the (1/19) for like 210k? haven't unlocked that yet

FBI shields are ?/24 and cost $1,500,000 each.

Between FCGs and UWVs, I don't see FBI shields receiving a lot of my attention. Something could change before I get to that point though. Something usually does when I try to plan too far ahead.

[schnuffler]

If a player has a weak economy, they need to start focussing on their economy as well. There's going to be no point getting to lvl 200 and saying "Ah, but I have a weak economy."

It's entirely possible to focus on attacking/robbing, building economy, and building attack/defence stats at the same time. Occassionally you will need to make a choice to prioritise one over the other, but quite often they can be separate goals with little overlap. A good example of when to prioritise is unlocking Leila. If you need to (or will need to soon) farm DD's, you should be putting your money into unlocking Leila, then go back to building your economy with your money.

[Dreno33]

FBI shields are ?/24 and cost $1,500,000 each.

Between FCGs and UWVs, I don't see FBI shields receiving a lot of my attention. Something could change before I get to that point though. Something usually does when I try to plan too far ahead.

lol they don't even appear in my equipment/armor menu yet. hahah