Is it better to have more or less allies

[moneybags]

I am trying to understand why some people have alot of allies and others only have a specific amount. I am trying to build my economy now and am also trying to increase my attack. I get about 125k an hour and I never get raided. The only thing that is really lacking is my attack. Since I have been putting all my money into making more money I haven't upgraded any of my attack buildings. What do you guys think I should do?

[War player]

From my experience, and that is up to Level 80, it's much better to have a LOW ally count, unless you have purchased alot of gold units.

[Cantgetright]

Aren't you only allowed to use 4 units per ally per lvl?? That was my understanding and why I've kept my allies at around 800 as I am lvl 75.

[Agent Orange]

I am trying to understand why some people have alot of allies and others only have a specific amount. I am trying to build my economy now and am also trying to increase my attack. I get about 125k an hour and I never get raided. The only thing that is really lacking is my attack. Since I have been putting all my money into making more money I haven't upgraded any of my attack buildings. What do you guys think I should do?

This depends entirely on what level you are on and that is because the rivals list picks rivals based on level and their number of allies in levels below 90. Btw this changes around, used to be L70 and it's possible that folks in the L70 - L90 range may see something different now because the game keeps changing.

The rivals list also seems to want to group players so in some cases such as in the really low levels it is wise to keep a low ally count but a high value force. But at some point you will cross a threshold that will put you in harms way.

I think the smart move is to not rely on flying under the radar because at some point the game may bite you if it gets rejigged and this seems to happen often although not nessessarily for the better.... so that means I would not keep to low an ally count but also not one that is too high that puts you into the arena of more powerful players.

The only way to deal with this is for you to look at your rival list and look at a sampling of players by looking at their statistics and see where you fit in. If you are in the top percentage of powerful players based on attack and defense then you are doing good. If you aren't and you have a lot of allies get rid of some.

But the only answer to your question is to do your homework and see how you fit in. We can't give you a definitive answer because it varies based on a players level and number of allies.

[moneybags]

That is exactly why I asked the question. Its difficult to determine which is best. I never get raided but I can never find anyone worth while to raid. So I just keep building my income and attack until it really matters.

[Cantgetright]

That will only last for so long because people like me only raid until I have to finish the fighting goals. All I do is raid.

[Doc Rumpies]

I'm turtling at lvl 2 so I can't say this advice will work out in MW, but in CC I go the low ally count road. I figure if the game does change, it is easy enough to add a bunch of allies from the forum so no big deal. I'd stick with few allies until it stops working for you.

[War player]

Even at level 80, if you have a small ally list, you only see those with low ally count. You void most of the Whales, and you can attack folks with low ally counts. I don't know what happens at level 90.

I've not seen any downside to. Low ally count but have seen plenty of downside of having a large ally count.

[War Priest]

Aren't you only allowed to use 4 units per ally per lvl?? That was my understanding and why I've kept my allies at around 800 as I am lvl 75.

500 is the cap on allies your allowed to bring in so having 800 isn't necessary.

[War player]

I thought the cap was 5 times your level. For example, level 50 x 5 = 250 allies. I guess if you get to level 100, maybe your allies won't go over 500. I didn't know that.

[Aidan]

Nt sure bout othr lvls bt if u r lvl 60-70, hv good attcking stat n love pvp - get ur allies to around 50-75. U will hv almost zero casualties. I tried it myself last week, 100% valor army- only super hornets was brought into battle n i was having the best time of my MW life, attcking n raiding since before the pvp was broken. Lvling up with pvp is definitely much fun thn pve.

I revert back to full allies couple of days ago anticipating to be put into whale territory at 70 n was dissapointed tht they moved it to lvl 80. Am rlly tempted to go low ally again but the hassle of deleting 300 allies n thn harvesting n adding thm bck somehow put me off.

[Desas]

... get ur allies to around 50-75. U will hv almost zero casualties. I tried it myself last week,......

I am level 43, have 60 allies (still low level army, att ~3500, deff ~4500)
But I get someone killed in 90% of my attacks/raids (I do almost only attacks, only few raids)

Is that because of my low units level (lowest I bring to battle is warthog/bradley/am.trooper)?

And I mentioned that in other thread - my valor units died like flies (last ~200 battles - 14seahawks, 7avengers, 4combat boats, 7fighters, 1hornet) - I can assure you of the count _ I havent refilled the lost valor units so I can see the gaps of my "20 valor units per type"

[digitalwalker]

That's because he has a much higher attack stat than u. And there is no specification of ally region 50-75, I have near zero casualty from 1-150 ally numbers, as long as u have an aboslute offensive stats and a well proportionality of kinds of troops.

[Desas]

digitwalker, when do you think unit level starts to be not so "easy to die"

I mean what was/are the lowest nongold, nonvalor units in your army, when they are not dying easily?

[digitalwalker]

My lowest cash units veries depend on which ally region I want to be. osprey VTOL and harrier jet most often

The line separating easy to die or not is not aboslute defined. It mostly depends on ur own army density, relative to ur ravils, of course there are other considerations like stats boost, type, proportionality of kinds.

[Aidan]

Digital is right. If u greatly overpowered ur opponents u wont suffer any casualties. If i remember correctly, my attck at tht time was around 7500-7700, lvl 60ish wif 50 allies. When i attckd people tht is below 4k then i will nt hv any casualties. More thn tht, myb once or at most twice in 10 battles will lose unit. 1 unit at most.

The 50-75 allies is wht i've been experimenting at. Found tht if i go any higher thn i will strt lose more thn 1 unit if the opponent's def is much closer to my att. Having said tht, i didnt do any sampling on 100 or 150 allies. Bt according to digital it's still the case.

Oh n digital, still hvnt thankd you on ur great assistance to me the othr day on going low allies strat. Thanks mate, i rlly enjoyed it. Was like a kid in a candy store. Wif zero casualties n soo mny people with unvaulted cash cn only mean 1 thing - orgasm. Lol

[digitalwalker]

Digital is right. If u greatly overpowered ur opponents u wont suffer any casualties. If i remember correctly, my attck at tht time was around 7500-7700, lvl 60ish wif 50 allies. When i attckd people tht is below 4k then i will nt hv any casualties. More thn tht, myb once or at most twice in 10 battles will lose unit. 1 unit at most.

The 50-75 allies is wht i've been experimenting at. Found tht if i go any higher thn i will strt lose more thn 1 unit if the opponent's def is much closer to my att. Having said tht, i didnt do any sampling on 100 or 150 allies. Bt according to digital it's still the case.

Oh n digital, still hvnt thankd you on ur great assistance to me the othr day on going low allies strat. Thanks mate, i rlly enjoyed it. Was like a kid in a candy store. Wif zero casualties n soo mny people with unvaulted cash cn only mean 1 thing - orgasm. Lol

Lol. You r welcome, and very glad u r enjoying the game right now. And let's hope there are more rabbits than hunters:)

[Agent Orange]

Even at level 80, if you have a small ally list, you only see those with low ally count. You void most of the Whales, and you can attack folks with low ally counts. I don't know what happens at level 90.

I've not seen any downside to. Low ally count but have seen plenty of downside of having a large ally count.

Right now the crossover point for me is level 90, I have players with as low as 1 to 3 allies showing up and those players are attacked without mercy.

[Desas]

Digital is right. If u greatly overpowered ur opponents u wont suffer any casualties. If i remember correctly, my attck at tht time was around 7500-7700, lvl 60ish wif 50 allies. When i attckd people tht is below 4k then i will nt hv any casualties. More thn tht, myb once or at most twice in 10 battles will lose unit. 1 unit at most.


I see the point now - but for 43rd level with 60allies with my 3.5att I can attack almost every player I want (at least the ones which get in my radar are usually with 1-2k def, if they have more than 2k def it's an exception.

But I guess I will have to increase my unit level - in any case that's my goal - and see what will happen :)

Fck , it just hurts to loose valor units and I am not into turtling or pve so will continue to loose them until then

[Aidan]

My suggestions is tht u go full allies n do all valor missions tht u can. Get super hornets. Aftr tht drop bck to low ally.
When u r at low allies u missed out on some valor missions since u cn only do the lvl missions. N if u r a free plyr n dont hv the economy to buy high quality unit, ur stat will nt be tht great. So u gonna need lots of valor unit.

Edit: u dont hv to actlly go full allies, just go with whatever number of allies tht the missions required

The drawback of this low ally strat is like agent orange said, wht if suddenly funzio change the rival list ie grouped all people within their levels. All plyr wif as little as 1 ally n in ur case 215 allies all in 1 bracket. U gonna get murder overnight. Granted, tht u cn quickly add ur allies, bt it still depends on whether peole will accept or nt. n it wont be tht quick. Meanwhile u gonna get hurt pretty bad.

[Desas]

Aidan - I still have 10k valor which could get me 30hornets=1000 att - so instead of 3.5 I will have 4.4 or smth of att. Even If I "ally up" and I do lets say 10 valor mission and will get 3-4k more valor - this will not make my day.
So I need cash units to help me with that - meaning need to increase my economy - having 130k per hour is just not enough - will have to raid & att for money also.

O and I am a free player - only 250 gold worth defense boost building is tempting me - but still not convinced to spend 20 euros for that :)

[Aidan]

Just realised tht u said u went with full ally b4. So yeah myb it wont help much.

R u saving those valor fr m270 ir somethng?

[Desas]

Just realised tht u said u went with full ally b4. So yeah myb it wont help much.

R u saving those valor fr m270 ir somethng?

Should I?

In fact, I don't know why I am saving - but should I save for m270?

Or maybe MWv1.5 will give smth new...

Or maybe I will accidentaly piss of some gold monster and he will come back to revenge and I will at least have 10k valor left when all my other units will be wiped off :)

Don't really know...

EDIT: Will spend some valor once will be able to buy stealth frigate

[Griffin]

I have over 1000 allies (I'm a level 36 player).

Why does my alliance attack or defence score not go above +/- 1500?:confused:

[Desas]

I have over 1000 allies (I'm a level 36 player).

Why does my alliance attack or defence score not go above +/- 1500?:confused:

Well...
Your att/deff is calculated your level 36 x 5 per level allies = 180 allies into battle = 180 x 4 units into battle = 720 units into battle

So if you have too few units or too weak units you will not increase your att/deff

[Aidan]

Should I?

In fact, I don't know why I am saving - but should I save for m270?

Or maybe MWv1.5 will give smth new...

Or maybe I will accidentaly piss of some gold monster and he will come back to revenge and I will at least have 10k valor left when all my other units will be wiped off :)

Don't really know...

EDIT: Will spend some valor once will be able to buy stealth frigate

Wht country r u playing as?
I'm playing russia so concentrating on air unit. Most of my valor goes to hornet(212), seahawk(80), strike eagle(30) n some m270 mlrs (60) fr defence. If u r playing uk, thn it's better fr u to get steakth frigate fr ur offence

Hurmm, hvnt thought bout the possibility tht funzio might release a new valor unit. Might be a good idea to save. I only hv bout 1.5 k valor saving up

[Desas]

I am UK - accidentally selected and it seems at least I was lucky with that

So yes st. frigates are still waiting for my L6 shipyard to come true

Afterwards, for M270, I think I will not buy them until my meat shield in attack will have more than 17 att
meaning to leave M270 in defense, otherwise it looks too expensive to be lost in attack while not being real attacker unit

And yes that would be nice question for our new forum master from funzio - any new valor units planned in 1.5 or 1.6 or ....

BTW, have all valor unit been here from the begining of MW, or some were introduced, cause I am just 1 month player so don't know the history???

[JohnnyR]

Digital is right. If u greatly overpowered ur opponents u wont suffer any casualties. If i remember correctly, my attck at tht time was around 7500-7700, lvl 60ish wif 50 allies. When i attckd people tht is below 4k then i will nt hv any casualties. More thn tht, myb once or at most twice in 10 battles will lose unit. 1 unit at most.

The 50-75 allies is wht i've been experimenting at. Found tht if i go any higher thn i will strt lose more thn 1 unit if the opponent's def is much closer to my att. Having said tht, i didnt do any sampling on 100 or 150 allies. Bt according to digital it's still the case.

Oh n digital, still hvnt thankd you on ur great assistance to me the othr day on going low allies strat. Thanks mate, i rlly enjoyed it. Was like a kid in a candy store. Wif zero casualties n soo mny people with unvaulted cash cn only mean 1 thing - orgasm. Lol

I've hovered around 126 allies for a week now, I have lost 1my Super Hornet, about 30 strike eagles in maybe 350 raids and battles. Didn't know how low to go, guess I should aim a bit lower. This is an excellent strategy for powerful armies filled with valor units, easy money, all toward my econ. One warning to anyone trying this, stay off anyone's radar while slicing the ally list. Smacked a guy good at 200 allies and he got me back when my ally count was 126 allies and a way lower defense stat. Do it all at once without attacking anyone on the way down.

Also, Strike Eagles drop like flies with this strategy, go all Super Hornet or get low enough to not bring them in.

[War Priest]

I have over 1000 allies (I'm a level 36 player).

Why does my alliance attack or defence score not go above +/- 1500?:confused:

At level 100, 500 allies is what you bring into battle. That is the cap. At level's 101 and up it still remains at 500 allies, and 2,000 units. So having more allies doesn't help you in any way.