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kid123
02-29-2012, 04:49 PM
Thanks funzio for holding both events

Congrats to those who got sig have a good time hunting:)

CounterSniper
02-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Could any of you post how many lockboxes still left to open?

Here is my theory:

The less lockbox we got the more chances of getting diamond

Right now I have over 200 lockboxes left to open and I did play cc event got 7 diamonds

Started the new event with like 77 lockboxes and guess what after 60 lockboxes out of no single diamonds

If this theory is right it sorts of explain why diamonds are easily obtained in the beginning

So for those non-gold players if you can't open one you ends up getting more and more

So I guess for gold spending players they should have less lockboxes in hand

So if you can't get any diamonds using gold maybe check this thread to compare the numbers of lockboxes

Again it's just my assumption and if funzio doesn't like this thread please let me know

Thanks for reading guys only 2 days and few hours left good luck everyone


I can relate to why you might think that but it is all random IMO.

I got my 10th diamond last time with many more LB's than I had when I got the first 9.

kid123
02-29-2012, 05:02 PM
How many lb you got when you got the sig?

By the way I assume you used gold to get the sig?

dudeman
02-29-2012, 05:02 PM
The rate for diamond drops is gradually reduced as your total number of diamonds increases. This never becomes a 0 or below-0 number.

Number of boxes in possession isn't related to diamond drops at all.

kid123
02-29-2012, 05:11 PM
If you know software programming

The easiest way to limit the chances of getting the outcome you want is by going the simple equation

This case for system to distinguis an non gold player is by the numbers of lockboxes obtained

Again this is my assumption

I cannot explain how i got no single diamond after 60 boxes

But 7 diamonds in the first few days:)

Just want to do a survey so if you wanna reply please also let us know the number of lb if you play CCHD lockbox event now

Thanks

erik
02-29-2012, 05:14 PM
I had 147 when I opened my 10th in non-HD. I finished the event w/ 215, no gold spent.

My guess is that it is a straight %.

GL with your sig!

Nudie
02-29-2012, 05:21 PM
I don't think the number of LB you have has any bearing on the likelihood of a diamond drop.
I have 90 unopened LB and have 9 diamonds. Hoping for the last one before the event ends in 2 days.

CounterSniper
02-29-2012, 05:27 PM
How many lb you got when you got the sig?

By the way I assume you used gold to get the sig?

I had 80 or so, got my Sig on day six and opened 4 boxes with gold.


Kudos to dudeman for pulling this up. It deserves repeating.

"Posted by Crime City Mark
The rate for diamond drops is gradually reduced as your total number of diamonds increases. This never becomes a 0 or below-0 number."

Its the number of diamonds that effect the odds and not the number of boxes.

Tramp Stamp
02-29-2012, 05:34 PM
Its the number of diamonds that effect the odds and not the number of boxes.

You'd think this would be an intuitive concept, but voodoo rules once again.


If you know software programming

The easiest way to limit the chances of getting the outcome you want is by going the simple equation

The way this event works reminds me of slot machine programming, which, not so coincidentally, triggers the same types of superstitions from players.

dudeman
02-29-2012, 06:14 PM
I didn't have to look hard to find that quote. First post of the stickied lockbox event guide.

CJ Sniper
02-29-2012, 06:59 PM
When does the lockbox event end on the iPad? I might try to borrow one to get my last diamond if there's a few days left.

CounterSniper
02-29-2012, 07:06 PM
When does the lockbox event end on the iPad? I might try to borrow one to get my last diamond if there's a few days left.

2 days 4 hours 53 min.

2Legit
02-29-2012, 08:02 PM
The less lockbox we got the more chances of getting diamond

Is that theory true? Or are you just giving a hunch?

ruffy
02-29-2012, 08:29 PM
Started the new event with like 77 lockboxes and guess what after 60 lockboxes out of no single diamonds





exact same situation as you. started HD event at 7 diamonds, still stuck at 7. my ratio of opening the lockbox using cash option is about 20%....

wtf funzio???

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02-29-2012, 08:30 PM
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Nudie
02-29-2012, 10:13 PM
exact same situation as you. started HD event at 7 diamonds, still stuck at 7. my ratio of opening the lockbox using cash option is about 20%....

wtf funzio???

I've had a little better luck, started with 4 diamonds. Got numbers 5 & 6 in the first 2 days using only cash option. Switched to gold to open and got numbers 7, 8 and 9 in 11 attempts (very good diamond drop rate don't u think?). Hunting for the tenth diamond now. 10 tries so far but number 10 remains elusive.

kid123
03-01-2012, 02:02 AM
exact same situation as you. started HD event at 7 diamonds, still stuck at 7. my ratio of opening the lockbox using cash option is about 20%....

wtf funzio???


Im still trying and today I figured that you cannot literally get rid of lockboxes if it dropped on the floor lol

I tried exit when not collecting those after doing some missions it automatically falls into your pocket when you log in again

There is no turning back on this lockboxes wish I could have nothing to start it with

wont be surprised if I remain 7 diamonds till it ends

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Ohaithere
03-01-2012, 02:29 AM
I assumed my opening rate with cash was very low until I started writing it down and it's closer to 40 pc, I'm going away for a few days now at 9 diamonds which is a bit annoying :(

ruffy
03-01-2012, 04:02 AM
wont be surprised if I remain 7 diamonds till it ends

i feel you bro, at least we have each other to console...

seriously funzio? get your act right... give us better luck.

Max Power
03-01-2012, 04:51 AM
Is that theory true? Or are you just giving a hunch?

If it were true, it would no longer be a theory.

Swifty
03-01-2012, 04:59 AM
@Max Power

In science, there is a difference between a theory and a hypothesis. A scientific theory has never been proven wrong.

Nudie
03-01-2012, 05:11 AM
I've had a little better luck, started with 4 diamonds. Got numbers 5 & 6 in the first 2 days using only cash option. Switched to gold to open and got numbers 7, 8 and 9 in 11 attempts (very good diamond drop rate don't u think?). Hunting for the tenth diamond now. 10 tries so far but number 10 remains elusive.

Got diamond 10 on the 16th try with gold. So the last 4 diamonds took 27 attempts with gold. Happy dance.

Swifty
03-01-2012, 05:31 AM
Congrats, Nudie!

I am stuck at 9 (cash only), but my worst run of luck happened right after my 4th with 8 fails to open in a row.

Nudie
03-01-2012, 05:43 AM
Congrats, Nudie!

I am stuck at 9 (cash only), but my worst run of luck happened right after my 4th with 8 fails to open in a row.

Thanks Swifty, and I wish you best of luck with your tenth. Do you plan on using some gold towards the end of the event?

Swifty
03-01-2012, 05:47 AM
No gold for me, so I do not expect to get a 10th.

Fig Oni
03-01-2012, 06:30 AM
"Posted by Crime City Mark
The rate for diamond drops is gradually reduced as your total number of diamonds increases. This never becomes a 0 or below-0 number."

Its the number of diamonds that effect the odds and not the number of boxes.

Haha I said that when the initial lockbox event happened on the iphone.

So I'll take my bow.

kid123
03-01-2012, 06:37 AM
Congrats, Nudie!

I am stuck at 9 (cash only), but my worst run of luck happened right after my 4th with 8 fails to open in a row.

I assume you don't use gold for getting 9th diamond right?

How many lockboxes you have when you got the 9th

My record is 10 fails to open and out of 66 boxes about 10 opened without any single diamond



So the rate for even open is less than 20% about 16%


Diamond rate is too hard for this account


Can't explain this and wish I didn't have any lockboxes carried over for the new event

kid123
03-01-2012, 06:40 AM
Haha I said that when the initial lockbox event happened on the iphone.

So I'll take my bow.

I think not only the # of diamonds matters but also the # of lockboxes too

Especially for accounts join both events

The rate is riduiculously low

Fig Oni
03-01-2012, 06:42 AM
i feel you bro, at least we have each other to console...

seriously funzio? get your act right... give us better luck.

By giving people a double oppotunity if they own ipad & iphone is really nice, if they wanted they could have resetted to zero diamond & zero lockbox for the people who were using iphone on the first event which they didn't.

I've leveled up over 5000xp in the past 36 hours and since then I've had 24 attempts at open the lockbox trying to get the 3 diamond I need.

What I got so far is.(ipad event)

3 ARX160
2 FBI Swat Vans
2 Stone Hammers
4 Punk Jackets
1 $125k
1 $25k
1 500 rp
10 Fails (of which 1 was an accidental free pick)

kid123
03-01-2012, 06:44 AM
i feel you bro, at least we have each other to console...

seriously funzio? get your act right... give us better luck.

Funzio needs player to put gold into this event

I don't blame them

Money talks but without non gold players the business won't last long

That is why the event is only for 7 days if it's like one month long

I bet I will still not getting the Sig without using gold lol

Joe Brown1
03-01-2012, 06:45 AM
Finally getting lockboxes to open after a string of 16 fails. Still have gone since midway through the 4th day of the Universal event without a diamond - so almost 9 days , 12 to 15 attempts per day - no diamond. Seems to defy even basic statistics given that I am only trying to get diamond #8. I have successfully opened probably 60 boxes, the odds are I should have gotten #8. If the odds are this bad for 8 - I have no chance of getting 9 or 10. 60 boxes with no - diamond - why would I even consider using gold? However, I have heard the theory espoused that number of lockboxes impacts odds so I decided to test it using CC HD. I have only been camping (and farming on CC Universal) and have gotten no lockboxes during this event. As a result, I have reduced the number of lockboxes I started with from 40 to 10. We will see if it helps.

kid123
03-01-2012, 06:52 AM
By giving people a double oppotunity if they own ipad & iphone is really nice, if they wanted they could have resetted to zero diamond & zero lockbox for the people who were using iphone on the first event which they didn't.

I've leveled up over 5000xp in the past 36 hours and since then I've had 24 attempts at open the lockbox trying to get the 3 diamond I need.

What I got so far is.(ipad event)

3 ARX160
2 FBI Swat Vans
2 Stone Hammers
4 Punk Jackets
1 $125k
1 $25k
1 500 rp
10 Fails (of which 1 was an accidental free pick)

I wish they do that removing all lockboxes but I know this way they gotta take the weapons away too that won't work
For all players

Fig Oni
03-01-2012, 06:55 AM
I think not only the # of diamonds matters but also the # of lockboxes too

Especially for accounts join both events

The rate is riduiculously low

Disagree because on the iphone event I always had max of 4 lockbox at one time untill the last 7 hours of the first event.
Got all my seven diamonds when I had less then 3 lockboxes on hand, so the amount of lockbox on hand make no difference what so ever but it's all about the timing.
Also I have 17 boxes this time round but no luck with the diamond search.

100% luck, don't believe it an exclusive weapon for spenders of gold.
Don't believe I'll get my sig again but I do like the other reward that come along with it.

kid123
03-01-2012, 07:11 AM
Disagree because on the iphone event I always had max of 4 lockbox at one time untill the last 7 hours of the first event.
Got all my seven diamonds when I had less then 3 lockboxes on hand, so the amount of lockbox on hand make no difference what so ever but it's all about the timing.
Also I have 17 boxes this time round but no luck with the diamond search.

100% luck, don't believe it an exclusive weapon for spenders of gold.
Don't believe I'll get my sig again but I do like the other reward that come along with it.

Hardly have I heard anyone with only 4 lock boxes max unless you aren't doing anything but open lock boxes during the last event

And 7 diamonds with less than 3 luck boxes that is amazing too

So if I get you right you don't let your luck boxes go higher than 4
Once you did open anything you would start doing missions or PvP
To get 1 or more to 4 luck boxes for the universal event

This sounds obscured and why you did that.?

Fig Oni
03-01-2012, 07:17 AM
Hardly have I heard anyone with only 4 lock boxes max unless you aren't doing anything but open lock boxes during the last event

And 7 diamonds with less than 3 luck boxes that is amazing too

So if I get you right you don't let your luck boxes go higher than 4
Once you did open anything you would start doing missions or PvP
To get 1 or more to 4 luck boxes for the universal event

This sounds obscured and why you did that.?


I always had max of 4 lockbox at one time

I said I only had a max of on hand at a time so when and if I opened a lockbox I'd search for another.
If your not resetting the timer with gold it not hard to get a lockbox every hour without even trying.

The second part of the question is, I only got 4 at a time because when I woke up the next day because I own gold 1 hour and 3 hour buildings my lockboxes were gone so it better losing 3-4 then 10-15 per day

kid123
03-01-2012, 07:22 AM
I said I only had a max of on hand at a time so when and if I opened a lockbox I'd search for another.
If your not resetting the timer with gold it not hard to get a lockbox every hour without even trying.

The second part of the question is, I only got 4 at a time because when I woke up the next day because I own gold 1 hour and 3 hour buildings my lockboxes were gone so it better losing 3-4 then 10-15 per day


Okay its beyound me now thanks anyway

Fig Oni
03-01-2012, 07:30 AM
Sorry to lose you but I was trying to explain by having alot of unopened boxes on hand. Has a chance of being robbed by someone.
On the ipad version I've noticed it much harder to get lockboxes doing map mission but easier getting lockboxes doing pvp and robbing to obtain lockboxes.

Max Power
03-01-2012, 08:25 AM
@Max Power

In science, there is a difference between a theory and a hypothesis. A scientific theory has never been proven wrong.

Interesting.

Would it be safe to conclude a scientific theory has never been proven right as well?

Swifty
03-01-2012, 09:29 AM
You are correct, it can only ever be proven wrong but never right.

But a theory is considered "right" in the sense that it has never failed a test and is a working model of viewing some part of the way the world works.

When someone says "I have a theory about that" they almost always mean hypothesis.

Max Power
03-01-2012, 10:08 AM
You are correct, it can only ever be proven wrong but never right.

But a theory is considered "right" in the sense that it has never failed a test and is a working model of viewing some part of the way the world works.

When someone says "I have a theory about that" they almost always mean hypothesis.

You sound like a scientist.

Maybe you can help....I want to clone Jessica Alba, and sadly, I am not in possession of her DNA.

Swifty
03-01-2012, 12:25 PM
We need more Jessica Albas.

And Max, I apologize for the whole theory diatribe. It was unnecessary.

The theory/hypothesis thing is a pet peeve of mine, second only to loose vs. lose.

dudeman
03-01-2012, 01:56 PM
I am still looking for #10. I even spent all my Tapjoy gold on ten opened boxes.

I'm going to name my shadow "Murphy". Lol