Why are people too scared to reveal

[Fig Oni]

Why are people too scared to reveal what they used their skill point on let me be first

Level 112

Attack 62

Defense 62

Energy 1250

Stamina 62


Where did you put your skill points.

[Bruiser]

Not scared to show this information as i have done in the past

Level 146

Attack 47

Defense 12

Energy 1900

Stamina 106

[Steve0]

Lvl 98

Attack 36

Defence 12

Energy 2010

Stamina 38

[Ffej]

Level 92

Attack 30

Defense 38

Energy 1500

Stamina. 40

I plan on raising stamina to 50, and the putting the rest 2 def/ 1 atk each level

[Chironex]

Level 149

Attack 8

Defense 1

Energy 1260

Stamina 169

[yshen]

Level 115

Attack 225

Defense 49

Energy 600

Stamina 15

[Nudie]

Level 128
Attack 108
Defense 6
Energy 1600
Stamina 69

[Jill]

Level. 117
Att. 49
Def. 47
Engery. 1660
Stamina. 55

[Nicholost]

Level: 80

Attack: 60

Defense: 20

Energy: 1290

Stamina: 30

I plan to put my three points into defense for the next 20 levels and then 2/1 def/art after that. I'm happy with where my energy and stamina are.

[mexx]

Level: 136

Attack: 84

Defense: 80

Energy: 1890

Stamnia: 37

my biggest mistake as beginner was, i invest my skillpoints into attack and defense. :(

[silverbackspur]

Level 129

Attack 57

Defence. 100

Energy. 2000

Stamina. 33

[Joeycool]

level :163

Attack : 178

Defence : 111

Energy : 1770

Stamina : 30

[Ghost818]

Level: 143

Attack: 70

Defence: 75

Energy: 2160

Stamina: 47

[Ohaithere]

Level 109
100 attack
1 def
1500 energy
42 stamina

[Dillinja]

level :163

Attack : 178

Defence : 111

Energy : 1770

Stamina : 30

Joey, ey up fella. Any reason why you've invested so much into ATK/DFN?? according to some people they're a waste of skill points and i'm not sure what they actually do. Just wanted your thoughts...

[Ohaithere]

At his level each point in attack and def counts as 10 attack and def

[Max Power]

Level 137

Attack 105

Defense 105

Energy 1650

Stamina. 30

[Swifty]

level 120
attack 39
defense 10
energy 1580
stamina 91

[doug19]

level 97
attack 75
defence 60
energy 1420
stamina 18

[Dillinja]

At his level each point in attack and def counts as 10 attack and def

Is that for all levels or only above a certain level?

[blondealex]

level :152

Attack : 56

Defence : 121

Energy : 2000

Stamina : 50

@Dillinja - that's for levels 100+

[Fig Oni]

At his level each point in attack and def counts as 10 attack and def

Sorry to doubt your prognosis but how did you get the equation that every skill point on your att/def counts as 10.
I've noticed adding skill points to att/def don't make any viewable difference to your attack defense.

[Max Power]

Sorry to doubt your prognosis but how did you get the equation that every skill point on your att/def counts as 10.
I've noticed adding skill points to att/def don't make any viewable difference to your attack defense.

It never has been viewable. That why skill points are a mystery and designed to be that way.

I think the ten points either came from a Mark post or someone looking at game code.

[Fig Oni]

Thanks Max, So I need to get a conformation from Mark.

I do understand it makes a difference so not doubting that fact but just thought skill point are like dices in hand you roll so even if a person has 10 skills point to your 5 you still have a chance to win if your 5 skill point were higher then the overall score of the opponents 10.

Hope it make some sense what I'm explaining

[Max Power]

Thanks Max, So I need to get a conformation from Mark.

I do understand it makes a difference so not doubting that fact but just thought skill point are like dices in hand you roll so even if a person has 10 skills point to your 5 you still have a chance to win if your 5 skill point were higher then the overall score of the opponents 10.

Hope it make some sense what I'm explaining

It does, but knowing a little how programmers think, I think it is a fixed multiplier and the randomness of fight results is programmed into other areas of the game.

That's just a hunch though, and Mark/Funzio wont reveal anything other than it is a multiplier.

[Fig Oni]

It does, but knowing a little how programmers think, I think it is a fixed multiplier and the randomness of fight results is programmed into other areas of the game.

That's just a hunch though, and Mark/Funzio wont reveal anything other than it is a multiplier.

I does beggar belief they won't reveal anything other than it's a multiplier.
Player by knowing the fact won't just overnight stop playing the game and collecting skill point are only done 2 ways.
one by leveling up max 600 skill points and 48 skill point to reach mastery lvl 5 on each map so in turn max of 648 you can earn so why the mystery.

[Max Power]

I does beggar belief they won't reveal anything other than it's a multiplier.
Player by knowing the fact won't just overnight stop playing the game and collecting skill point are only done 2 ways.
one by leveling up max 600 skill points and 48 skill point to reach mastery lvl 5 on each map so in turn max of 648 you can earn so why the mystery.

I can tell you why I think there is the mystery, and it's because it adds to the quality of the game by forcing people to employ different strategies.

As we have seen here, there are many smart and talented people that can break down everything in this game via spreadsheet, and if there wasn't some mystery, game play would become somewhat obvious and robotic.

I prefer a little mystery.

[Swifty]

Or maybe a lot of mystery.

[Nicholost]

Or maybe a lot of mystery.

And that is why I turn to Nancy Drew Mystery Novels. Fantastic reads, those are.

[Fig Oni]

I can tell you why I think there is the mystery, and it's because it adds to the quality of the game by forcing people to employ different strategies.

As we have seen here, there are many smart and talented people that can break down everything in this game via spreadsheet, and if there wasn't some mystery, game play would become somewhat obvious and robotic.

I prefer a little mystery.

I like the way your thinking.
Curiosity did kill the cat.

But don't it seem a bit of an overkill by keeping skill point & defense building both as mysteries.
I believe they should disclose one or the other, how skill points work or how defense building work.

[blondealex]

Allhail pulled it from the game data same as the loot list he supplies for us.

Here's the old thread where he told us about it. Tramp Stamp has come up with the equation for the skill points if you are under level 100, which to all of us non math minds is basically 1.1 X your level, so at say level 80 - 10 skill points equals 80 attack or defense.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?17940-So-I-have-all-the-stamina-and-energy-I-need.........&p=100250#post100250

[qwikster]

Level: 122

Attack: 107

Defense: 50

Energy: 1080 (refills in 6hrs)

Stamnia: 60 (refills in 3hrs)

dumping every skill point into attack.

[Fig Oni]

Level: 122

Attack: 107

Defense: 50

Energy: 1080 (refills in 6hrs)

Stamnia: 60 (refills in 3hrs)

dumping every skill point into attack.

In my opinion it get hard to make substantal robberies once your get to lvl 100+ as most people sync there building and get rid of their building that have low payout.
In turn that make hood more vulnerable to major robs and you end up using less stamina too.

[qwikster]

In my opinion it get hard to make substantal robberies once your get to lvl 100+ as most people sync there building and get rid of their building that have low payout.
In turn that make hood more vulnerable to major robs and you end up using less stamina too.

you are right. finding good heist requires searching countless hoods. on the other hand, attacking (ie, fighting) your enemy is easier especially if you have a decent att/def stat. i typically select my targets carefully with special consideration to retaliatory attacks.

[Joeycool]

Joey, ey up fella. Any reason why you've invested so much into ATK/DFN?? according to some people they're a waste of skill points and i'm not sure what they actually do. Just wanted your thoughts...

I just think there is more to skill points than meets the eye. They have to be there for a reason.

But even if they dont mean a single thing - my energy never fills fully... even over night. So there is no point adding anything to that.

My stamina never fully fills through out the day... only over night. So no point investing any more in that.

So I pump all my points into attack.

No point putting anymore into defence because you will get robbed no matter what because there is always a bigger fish. But the more I improve my attack the better a chance I have of being able to get revenge against that big fish!

I find that I win every fight and every robbery that I go into these days. Although I am selective over targets. That hasnt always been the case. I used to loose against people I would expect to beat! I now find that I can even beat people with higher defence than my attack.

Also high level players often attack me and loose.

I stand my by skill point allocation! :)

[thspiral]

I guess I will add mine to the mix

level :141
Attack :71
Defence : 72
Energy : 1900
Stamina : 62

[ogel45]

Level :147
Attack : 108
Defense : 20
Energy : 2550
Stamina : 50

I too am now putting all my skill points into attack.

[nappyface]

Level : 96
Attack : 33
Defense : 4
Energy : 1130
Stamina : 50
Unused points: 61

...yeah I'm indecisive.

[Joeycool]

Unused points: 61

Use them!!!!!!!!

[Bruiser]

At his level each point in attack and def counts as 10 attack and def

I still don't see the necessity for att/def skill points to be that high. If you invested in Stamina instead you would have accumulated more RP to purchase weapons above the "Maybe 10" attack and defence. These skill points will be the last i use until i no longer run out of stamina time wise, as my energy now never runs out.

[Fig Oni]

Use them!!!!!!!!

LOL (Classic in the making)

[Nicholost]

I just think there is more to skill points than meets the eye. They have to be there for a reason.
...
So I pump all my points into attack.

No point putting anymore into defence because you will get robbed no matter what because there is always a bigger fish. But the more I improve my attack the better a chance I have of being able to get revenge against that big fish!

I find that I win every fight and every robbery that I go into these days. Although I am selective over targets. That hasnt always been the case. I used to loose against people I would expect to beat! I now find that I can even beat people with higher defence than my attack.

Also high level players often attack me and loose.
...

Joey, you might be onto something. I may revise my previous statement about putting all points into defense for the next 20 levels. Thanks.

[Fig Oni]

I still don't see the necessity for att/def skill points to be that high. If you invested in Stamina instead you would have accumulated more RP to purchase weapons above the "Maybe 10" attack and defence. These skill points will be the last i use until i no longer run out of stamina time wise, as my energy now never runs out.

Bruiser when I was in the lower level around 50 I wasn't too interested in where I had my skill points my main concern was stamina as I was making 70% of income from robbing 25% from missions & 5% from my hood.

Then when I hit the high levels (the time when at lvl 75 you could see up to lvl 200)
I got attack by a guy around 25 levels above me (using gold weapons whereas I didn't ever buy gold)
I saw his stat and the level he was on so I wrote him a compliment and ended it when I level up I'll kick his ass.
Now this is what went down next.
He send me a reply and in it gave me a tip that I'm not sure I miss read or he mistyped it or he did mean what he said but it works a charm.
He said when I was only the lower levels like you and getting attack by higher level players, I made sure my STAMINA was full. (now I'm scratching my head saying to myself stamina is used for robbing and attacking so how the hell it going to help me defend attacks)
Now in my opinion I'm more like to lose a att/rob to a person of similar stats if my stamina was empty to very low then when my stamina is full.
Don't ask no more as it just a personal opinion.

[Dorian Gray]

Level: 116

Attack: 63

Defense: 85

Energy: 1530

Stamnia: 35

fights W- 14063
fights L- 404

[Bruiser]

Bruiser when I was in the lower level around 50 I wasn't too interested in where I had my skill points my main concern was stamina as I was making 70% of income from robbing 25% from missions & 5% from my hood.

Then when I hit the high levels (the time when at lvl 75 you could see up to lvl 200)
I got attack by a guy around 25 levels above me (using gold weapons whereas I didn't ever buy gold)
I saw his stat and the level he was on so I wrote him a compliment and ended it when I level up I'll kick his ass.
Now this is what went down next.
He send me a reply and in it gave me a tip that I'm not sure I miss read or he mistyped it or he did mean what he said but it works a charm.
He said when I was only the lower levels like you and getting attack by higher level players, I made sure my STAMINA was full. (now I'm scratching my head saying to myself stamina is used for robbing and attacking so how the hell it going to help me defend attacks)
Now in my opinion I'm more like to lose a att/rob to a person of similar stats if my stamina was empty to very low then when my stamina is full.
Don't ask no more as it just a personal opinion.

Interesting. I don't see it that way although i never really took any notice, i win 98% of fights and rarely look into others inventory when i attack either.

[Brent]

Level 155

Attack - 30

Defense - 30

Energy - 3350

Stamina - 55

Plan on getting 3500 energy then just investing skill points into stamina and attack.

[Ohaithere]

Why so much in energy?

[Fig Oni]

Why so much in energy?

Probably has only 12, 24, 48 building so he just logs on a few times in a day so having high energy is a good strategy.

Also I see you are close to tasting that diamond sig.

[Brent]

Probably has only 12, 24, 48 building so he just logs on a few times in a day so having high energy is a good strategy.

Also I see you are close to tasting that diamond sig.

Correct but all i have is 6, 8, 12, 24 and 48 hour buildings with a $260K income per hour so im just using alot towards energy since i dont really want to stay on too long.

[Joeycool]

I still don't see the necessity for att/def skill points to be that high. If you invested in Stamina instead you would have accumulated more RP to purchase weapons above the "Maybe 10" attack and defence. These skill points will be the last i use until i no longer run out of stamina time wise, as my energy now never runs out.

Sure you will get 76 fights more than me a day. (my stamina is 30 yours is 106)

I always use all my stamina before the meter fills throughout the day.

However I'm thinking long term gain. When you reach level 200 there will be no more skill points to gain. (unless you include the mastery completion of levels)

I will have a high level of Att / Def skill points. (I believe they do have an impact on attack and defence)

I dont think having extra fights will help there if your skill is way lower.

[xclusiv]

Level 166

Attack - 5

Defense - 5

Energy - 4320

Stamina - 47

[Chironex]

Sure you will get 76 fights more than me a day. (my stamina is 30 yours is 106)

I always use all my stamina before the meter fills throughout the day.

However I'm thinking long term gain. When you reach level 200 there will be no more skill points to gain. (unless you include the mastery completion of levels)

I will have a high level of Att / Def skill points. (I believe they do have an impact on attack and defence)

I dont think having extra fights will help there if your skill is way lower.

I think what Bruiser is trying to argue is the real worth of skill points invested into attack/defense vs stamina. Bruiser is saying that the gain in attack/defense stats you get from rp which can be earned alot quicker with higher stam far outweighs the gain you will get from adding skill points into attack/defense.

[yshen]

Level 115

Attack 225

Defense 49

Energy 600

Stamina 15

no comment on my unique stats?

[Tramp Stamp]

no comment on my unique stats?

Sorry, but xclusiv is simply hardcore.

[Bruiser]

I think what Bruiser is trying to argue is the real worth of skill points invested into attack/defense vs stamina. Bruiser is saying that the gain in attack/defense stats you get from rp which can be earned alot quicker with higher stam far outweighs the gain you will get from adding skill points into attack/defense.

Exactly Chironex, I gain far more from RP weapons then a lousy 10 att/def each time i level up!

[Nudie]

no comment on my unique stats?

With 15 stamina you are not getting the full benefits from your 225 attack.

[Chironex]

Exactly Chironex, I gain far more from RP weapons then a lousy 10 att/def each time i level up!

I fully agree with you in terms of your rp strategy for sure. How many skill points are you intending to invest into stamina? I'm thinking 9 hrs worth, so 198. I find that I more or less wake up at least once a night so I prob only need 6-7 hrs for energy.

The only time our stam/rp strategy will fail is when we eventually fill up all 500 slots for each high tier rp item. When this happens, then what can we possibly do with all the stam/rp?! I suppose just rob more than attack or perhaps by that time, another higher tier of rp items would have been created.

Adding to attack in the long run...and i do mean long run (like 4+ years? depending how much stam you have) would actually have the best outcome as you would then have invested more heavily into attack and by that time, have 500 of each high tier rp item equipped. Best of both worlds...high attack skill and low stam....but i dont think i would be playing that long.

I'm currently at 22.46% completion of high tier respect gear and thats taken 3 months....so another year to go perhaps. Will I still be playing in a year?....no idea....

[Bambamdaniel]

Level 129. Attack 159 def 105. Energy 850 stamina 29. Increasing stamina now and energy...

[Joeycool]

@ Bruiser and Chironex. Yeah its a good point you boys make. The extra RP is a good thing.

But I do think that the atk and def skill points are more value than people think. I guess we will never know how this game really works but I'm hedging my bets with atk skill points.

Like I say I have plenty of stamina for my needs. I spend enough time on the game! I dont think I want to spend anymore time in the mornings fighting once my stamina has recharged overnight.

[Swifty]

I need more stamina.

I burn through the overnight recharge in a very few minutes.

[<3 Hz]

Level 159
Att 52
Def 55
Energy 3500
Stamina 28

The high amount of energy is nice for farming items.

[Fig Oni]

@ Bruiser and Chironex. Yeah its a good point you boys make. The extra RP is a good thing.

But I do think that the atk and def skill points are more value than people think. I guess we will never know how this game really works but I'm hedging my bets with atk skill points.

Like I say I have plenty of stamina for my needs. I spend enough time on the game! I dont think I want to spend anymore time in the mornings fighting once my stamina has recharged overnight.

Joey I have hedged my bet of having equilibrium.
Placing the same amount of skill points on att/def and double the skill point in energy/stamina.
I've noticed it the most effective way to place my skill points.

Must say very interesting how each player has his own unique way of placing there skill points.

[Jill]

Sooooooo what is the conclusions? Lol

[Swifty]

My own personal conclusion is there are several ways to play the game, and each player should allocate their points to fit their own style.

For me, that means stamina for attack/rob and energy for farming.

And on the subject of energy for farming, some of those requirements for the highest level locations are extreme. 10,260 energy for Agent McCarthy at United Nations Plaza!!! I only have 1590 energy.

[Fig Oni]

Sooooooo what is the conclusions? Lol

Strongest attack base player - yshen @ 225
Strongest defense base player - blondealex @ 121
The most energetic player - xclusiv - @ 4320
The most stamatic player - Chironex @ 169

So far you 4 are the champs.

[Swifty]

I envy that 169 stamina.

I have a long way to go.

[kazwray]

i am quite new on the game can anyone tell me how to be able to get more energy on my iphone my max energy i can have is 250 help

[Max Power]

This has been an interesting discussion and one that will shaoe my actions when my camper account is ready to level up.

[Tramp Stamp]

I find interesting that many/most players of this game value the unknown more highly than the known.

[Nicholost]

I find interesting that many/most players of this game value the unknown more highly than the known.
So what are your numbers, TS?

[Tramp Stamp]

http://i.imgur.com/QZCMW.png

[Nicholost]

What are you going to spend the banked 37 skill points on? There's gotta be a plan because I can't fathom an indecisive TS.

[Tramp Stamp]

I am indecisive on skill points, but it has worked out. I've been no-banking cash for nearly the entire time, and the skill point stockpile is a hedge against unexpected attacks. I banked until level 30, where I dumped everything into energy. Then I stockpiled until unlocking Chain Whips then dumped into stamina. Now I think I'll go attack for the long haul, but I don't need it right now. I want to see the effects of no-bank failure before making a final decision.

[willydpooh]

lvl 41
Atk 63
Def 56
Energy 200/200
Stamina 5/5

I dont know if I do the right choice, but anyway its my game

[Chironex]

There's gotta be a plan because I can't fathom an indecisive TS.

That part of your post cracked me up. Just brilliant!

[martMode]

lvl 157
Atk 167
Def 167
Energy 1480
Stamina 10

Mafia att = 28351
Mafia def = 36211 (includes def buildings i believe)

we might want to seperate the attack/defense allocation between gold/non-gold players. i am a non-gold player and my attack/defense with weapons purchase is limited. respect weapons are the best though will lose big time against gold weapons.

with a +10 in defense skill point allocation, i am able to wade off 30/50% of the time higher mafia attack players (win/lose) ratio.

i believe CC Mark also mentioned the def point is a percentage chance of winning a PvP fight, not +10 in mafia attack??

[self]

Level: 147

Attack: 300

Defense: 1

Energy: 1990

Stamina: 40

[thisisdream]

What item can u farm funzi gonna remove them anytime

[RamIsAlive]

Level 173

Attack 100

Defense 45

Energy 3500

Stamina 45

[mexx]

Level 157

Attack 84

Defense 80

Energy 2200

Stamina 53

[Jess@ishoejby.dk]

Level 157
Att: 26
Def: 9
Energy:2100
Stamina: 125

[Burn]

Level 127
Energy 1200
Stamina 70
Attack 72
Defense 69

Currently ploughing it equally into Att and Def.

Energy I rarely use now. Stamina I use on a rolling basis so it only ever goes up to 70 when I'm sleeping.

[jaywalker]

Level 117
Attack: 63
Defence 50
Energy: 1850 (should have stopped at 1500)
Stamina: 37

[xclusiv]

level 188
attack skill 105
def skill 5
energy 4450
stamnia 73

[Luke 3457]

Level 152
Attack 122
Def 72
Energy 1720
Stamina 65
I think I'll stop energy as it barely refills every night. I'm thinking gonna be all stamina from here on out. Mainly because I'm unsure skill points in att/def actually does anything.

[dudeman]

Level 171
Attack 220
Defense 100
Energy 1410
Stamina 100

[jkl]

Level 164
Attack 106
Defense 14
Energy 1560
Stamina 120

All going to stamina until I get 9 hours worth. Maybe by then someone will have figured out attack and defense skill points. I guess these end at level 200 since no more leveling up? If so, I only get 105 more (plus few from maps).

[xclusiv]

if the next event item recharges energy 65 percent faster then you should be getting 3 energy per 19 seconds right? so im guessing while you sleep overnight you would get over 4,000 energy during the sleeping peroid? or am i mistaken.

[<3 Hz]

L 176
Att 60
Def 60
Energy 3800
Stamina 40

[mnju_03]

I'm too scared.

[Maniaxe]

Haha I just read this entire thread before I realized I read it almost two months ago.

LVL 74
A: 19
D: 19
Energy: 1250
Stamina: 39

Allocating skill points into attack from here on out maybe a little into energy for later farming. Stamina refills fast enough that I am ok with where it is at but is great for completing PvP goals quickly especially at lower levels, so I will add to that slowly over time. To the guys that have posted stats recently, does any of your attack stats include the points from the event item?

[Pekersss]

Level 127
Attack 114
Defense 97
Energy 1080
Stamina 44

[vitus79]

attack 225 (bank buster included)
defense 125
energy 1400
stamina 70

[Vile Lynn]

Dang, I need more stamina... I only have 13.
I put most into energy when farming the ___. But it was worth it back in the day.
Doing lots of maps now. Fun!

[Plux]

I have visible stats and hidden stats and I am very comfortable with that ;-) , very very comfortable. This comfort is squishy