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CounterSniper
02-20-2012, 09:10 AM
Just got successfully attacked for the first time in about three weeks by a guy with 150 turbo vipers (9000 gold bars) and 85 skull breakers (2550 gold bars).

He's Level 84 20k att, 20k def with 1 million+ in cash.

I didnt check all of his inventory but those two items alone are $1000 in real money.

Are people that crazy or is this guy cheating?

Swifty
02-20-2012, 09:19 AM
He could be a cheater, but I think it is more likely that he is a big spender.

CounterSniper
02-20-2012, 09:29 AM
He could be a cheater, but I think it is more likely that he is a big spender.

Well he's on my wall now cuz of the successful attack (0 money lost by the way, why did he bother) so I'll visit him regularly to see if anything else suddenly appears and take a closer look at his other goodies.

Im 12k att and 17 def. I can rob him all day long. He attacks for 0, I rob for $$$.

Wasnt a smart move when there are scores of 5-8k players at this lvl. Just strange imo.

Tramp Stamp
02-20-2012, 09:31 AM
Probably a blind attacker. With stats like that why bother checking? This behavior is common with big gold spenders.

CounterSniper
02-20-2012, 09:39 AM
Probably a blind attacker. With stats like that why bother checking? This behavior is common with big gold spenders.

Good point, I like to do a little recon before I send in the troops but I can see what you mean. Like a great white shark taking a nibble to see if its to his liking, otherwise he moves on to the next nibble.

i need muney
02-20-2012, 09:44 AM
Just let funzio check him. But crazy spenders arent that rare.

Royal Flush
02-20-2012, 09:55 AM
Who would buy that amount of Turbos when Exceleros are obtainable with similar stats?!

Max Power
02-20-2012, 09:57 AM
Well he's on my wall now cuz of the successful attack (0 money lost by the way, why did he bother) so I'll visit him regularly to see if anything else suddenly appears and take a closer look at his other goodies.

Im 12k att and 17 def. I can rob him all day long. He attacks for 0, I rob for $$$.

Wasnt a smart move when there are scores of 5-8k players at this lvl. Just strange imo.

He attacked you for fight streaks. That's how the goals work.

I blind attack all the time. Saves a lot of time.

erik
02-20-2012, 10:06 AM
When I attack folks, I am thinking about dumping stamina points and gaining RP and Exp as fast as I can. (Yes, I may be one of the few on the forum that hits high level diners on purpose!) Nothing else.

He may have his stuff synced and not really care if you can follow him home. I personally don't give a rip if someones attack level could theoretically rob my LMs all day or 3hr builds at 4am hehe.

CounterSniper
02-20-2012, 10:11 AM
When I attack folks, I am thinking about dumping stamina points and gaining RP and Exp as fast as I can. (Yes, I may be one of the few on the forum that hits high level diners on purpose!) Nothing else.

He may have his stuff synced and not really care if you can follow him home. I personally don't give a rip if someones attack level could theoretically rob my LMs all day or 3hr builds at 4am hehe.


Nah, Ive been to his hood many times before and he's had plenty of rob-able buildings, I just don't rob people who can rob me back as a general rule. There are so many others to rob with low stats and big buildings that it doesn't make sense to anger a sleeping giant.

AppleMacGuy
02-20-2012, 11:33 AM
Nah, Ive been to his hood many times before and he's had plenty of rob-able buildings, I just don't rob people who can rob me back as a general rule. There are so many others to rob with low stats and big buildings that it doesn't make sense to anger a sleeping giant.

You pussy! :p

Swifty
02-20-2012, 11:35 AM
My advice is to pick on people too weak to attack you back.

That is what I do.

i need muney
02-20-2012, 11:44 AM
You guys are limiting youre pool :) i attack everyone. Only one of them can rob you anyway.
And if you are synced, then they dont stand a chance

Dorian Gray
02-20-2012, 11:59 AM
Only one of them can rob you anyway.


How do you figure?

procsyzarc
02-20-2012, 12:24 PM
Dam am i the only person in this game who isn't a pussy and intentionally attacks stronger oponents?

Can't understand why you would check everyone before attacking unless i guess you have bugger all stam, personally I only blind attack since otherwise using 100+ stam would take forever.

As for is he cheating? Probably not it does seem like they fixed most of the ways people could cheat and banned those who had, I know it's hard to understand but there really are people out there that are dumb enough to spend $000's on an aplication

i need muney
02-20-2012, 12:31 PM
How do you figure?
If some guy comes and sweeps my less valuable, not synced buildings, then nobody will rob them until I collect from them. It's not like the more you rob - the more you get robbed, right? For instance, I banked 770k today from robbery. Even if I miss my collection I will lose like 150k. And that is a very unlikely situation :))

Swifty
02-20-2012, 12:34 PM
At level 115, I only have 87 stamina.

So it burns real fast and I do not want to waste any on losses. I do not care about the stats, that has nothing to do with it. I want to get the most value for every single attack or rob I make.

So for me, it does not make sense to attack stronger opponents.

Dorian Gray
02-20-2012, 12:41 PM
If some guy comes and sweeps my less valuable, not synced buildings, then nobody will rob them until I collect from them. It's not like the more you rob - the more you get robbed, right? For instance, I banked 770k today from robbery. Even if I miss my collection I will lose like 150k. And that is a very unlikely situation :))

Right right.

qwikster
02-20-2012, 12:45 PM
My advice is to pick on people too weak to attack you back.

That is what I do.

another advice is not to attack players with less income than you do other things being equal. i had this guy rob me a few days ago. he had twice my income. our stats were comparable. i took my sweet revenge. at the end, i was able to steal significantly more money (~1.5mil vs ~75K).

Swifty
02-20-2012, 12:47 PM
Yes, if they have higher income, and lower attack/defense, that is a sweet combo.

i need muney
02-20-2012, 12:47 PM
(~1.5mil vs ~75K).
IN YOUR FACE! :D

qwikster
02-20-2012, 12:52 PM
IN YOUR FACE! :D

he had 2 night clubs, high level lofts & movie theaters. his income was ~370K.

2Legit
02-20-2012, 12:56 PM
I want the Gas Annihilation!!!!

Dorian Gray
02-20-2012, 01:04 PM
This really annoys me. I'm the most powerful player at my level and probably in the top 20 of the entire game. I get accused of cheating on a daily basis... YES PEOPLE BUY GOLd and spend money. Stop accusing them of cheating.

Whatever you say cheater. lol yes I am easily amused.

Swifty
02-20-2012, 01:12 PM
@melliquor

Goes with the territory. If you really are in the top 20, people are going to suspect you because they just cannot wrap their mind around the fact that you are willing to spend real money.

Max Power
02-20-2012, 01:59 PM
At level 115, I only have 87 stamina.

So it burns real fast and I do not want to waste any on losses. I do not care about the stats, that has nothing to do with it. I want to get the most value for every single attack or rob I make.

So for me, it does not make sense to attack stronger opponents.

LOL...I am level 133 and I have 30 stamina.

Guess you are not fond of skill points.

Babytway
02-20-2012, 02:01 PM
You pussy! :p

DITTO DITTO DITTO

Swifty
02-20-2012, 02:28 PM
@ Max Power

That brings up a good question.

Is it better to make fewer, but more powerful attacks, or more, but less powerful attacks?

brutus beefcake
02-20-2012, 02:51 PM
I'm at level 125 with 40attack. It refills up pretty fast so its better for me to dump all of my skill points into the mysterious attack/defense bracket. Seems to work pretty well as the only players that can usually take me in a fight sit somewhere around level 140-150

Max Power
02-20-2012, 06:24 PM
@ Max Power

That brings up a good question.

Is it better to make fewer, but more powerful attacks, or more, but less powerful attacks?

I honestly have no idea.

I decided a while ago that I would rather have the skill advantage and just log in more often.

Whip88
02-20-2012, 06:53 PM
Nah, Ive been to his hood many times before and he's had plenty of rob-able buildings, I just don't rob people who can rob me back as a general rule. There are so many others to rob with low stats and big buildings that it doesn't make sense to anger a sleeping giant.

I cant believe this.... the stronger they are the better, fighting is part of the game and huge robberies are awesome = better economy for me.

CounterSniper
02-20-2012, 08:04 PM
I cant believe this.... the stronger they are the better, fighting is part of the game and huge robberies are awesome = better economy for me.


"the stronger they are the better".....Really, on what planet? The wealthier they are the better. I play for stats as well, if they weren't relevant then they wouldn't be shown. It seems that most people who don't care about their stats have horrible numbers cuz they couldn't figure out how to play a balanced game and are now all gung ho about attacking/robbing regardless of the consequences. I guess if my stats sucked I would feel the same way.

erik
02-20-2012, 08:28 PM
The downside max, is that you can miss out on a wack of attks upon waking and leveling... not that you cant chk every 81? Minutes for you I would guess.

I do 110 and usually wake around 105 goodfella. My Energy goes a tad longer. I set it to the M4 lady's energy hehe.

jaywalker
02-21-2012, 12:16 AM
I came over a level 44 with 12k+ attack and 6k+ defence, he had 100 Corner Shot CSM (220/102 att/def) :confused:

Whip88
02-21-2012, 04:16 AM
"the stronger they are the better".....Really, on what planet? The wealthier they are the better. I play for stats as well, if they weren't relevant then they wouldn't be shown. It seems that most people who don't care about their stats have horrible numbers cuz they couldn't figure out how to play a balanced game and are now all gung ho about attacking/robbing regardless of the consequences. I guess if my stats sucked I would feel the same way.

What give you idea my stats suck? (also I had to restart a game due to faulty device so i am not extreamly cautious of my stats I just don't have the patience.

Max Power
02-21-2012, 04:31 AM
"the stronger they are the better".....Really, on what planet?

The planet where attacking stronger rivals gets you more respect points and better drops for winning.

At least that's the theory.

nycpizzalover
02-21-2012, 05:00 AM
The planet where attacking stronger rivals gets you more respect points and better drops for winning.

At least that's the theory.

I'm not sure that I can agree with you Max. Based on what I have seen in my fights so far, I have had high level players (170+ level) who only give me 2 xp and 2 rp just as frequently as players in 120-130 level. I think it is just a round robin of chances in what is assigned when you attack and not based on level from what I can see. But then only Funzio knows for sure.

procsyzarc
02-21-2012, 12:23 PM
I'm not sure that I can agree with you Max. Based on what I have seen in my fights so far, I have had high level players (170+ level) who only give me 2 xp and 2 rp just as frequently as players in 120-130 level. I think it is just a round robin of chances in what is assigned when you attack and not based on level from what I can see. But then only Funzio knows for sure.

Been testing this for quite some time and definitely see an increase in respect in higher level opponents. L200 averages 9 RP per click where as L125 is only about 5RP. Their stats seem to make no difference just level. XP seems to scale even more with most clicks on L200's giving 20+ as opposed to an average of 10 on lower level opponents. There is still always the random element and you will sometimes still get the low end on a L200 but on average it is definitely higher.

Lars
02-21-2012, 01:52 PM
Been testing this for quite some time and definitely see an increase in respect in higher level opponents.

Game data features an entry called max respect per level:

level max_respect_drop_amount
1--20 2
21--40 3
41--60 4
61--80 5
81--100 6
101--120 7
121--140 8
141--160 9
161--180 10
181--200 11

If that's the only factor only crossing multiples of level 20 would make a difference. Does that fit your experience?

For XP it's multiples of level 10 (except for levels below 20):

level fight_xp_max
1--5 5
6--9 6
10--14 8
15--19 9
20--29 10
30--39 11
40--49 12
50--59 13
60--69 14
70--79 15
80--89 16
90--99 17
100--109 18
110--119 19
120--129 20
130--139 21
140--149 22
150--159 23
160--169 24
170--179 25
180--189 26
190--199 27
200 28

deuces
02-21-2012, 02:03 PM
The xp numbers definitely correlate with my ingame experience even tho i am not really HL yet. The xp gain has gotten increasingly higher quite slowly for attacking, and it makes sense it'd go up 1 each 10 levels.

SupremeFaze
03-06-2012, 04:54 AM
thats crazy i looked on youtube hacks for the game i wonder if the server even allows it or catches it