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J.J.
02-06-2012, 02:58 PM
Having a defense of 50,000 is a goal of mine that I'd like to reach in time. I'm wondering if it's at all possible just from farming nato gas masks, bomb suits, dd buses, buying respect armors like NVG's, etc. Where should I go from here & what should I concentrate on getting? My D is at a paltry 30,000 right now so I have a long way to go.

evilmal969
02-06-2012, 03:02 PM
HAVE YOU SPENT ANY GOLD AT ALL?

J.J.
02-06-2012, 03:05 PM
HAVE YOU SPENT ANY GOLD AT ALL?

Only on buildings.

I don't see how buying gold weapons and armor helps unless you purchase $1,000's of dollars worth. I've got better things to spend my money on than gold.

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:13 PM
Mabye one way you could do it.... is.........

Get

M4A1 + Tasers (mabye) + NVG ( if you want a good attack)+ Police vans

Then create a lot of space and ram in as many low level defence buildings the game will allow

J.J.
02-06-2012, 03:20 PM
Mabye one way you could do it.... is.........

Get

M4A1 + Tasers (mabye) + NVG ( if you want a good attack)+ Police vans

Then create a lot of space and ram in as many low level defence buildings the game will allow

OK, well so far I have 330 or so m4a1. I plan to continue to farm those until I get 400. That should be enough right? I haven't purchased any tasers yet at all. I currently have 85 NVG's. Police vans? Are you talking about those ones you get from pvp? If so I have around 130 of those.

I have a little area sectioned off in my hood for gatling turrets. They don't take up much space and you can up them to level 4 pretty economically. I hear you can only get 50 defense buildings & I'm probably pretty close to that number.

dudeman
02-06-2012, 03:21 PM
I haven't done the math, but the defense buildings should help. All you need is time and cash for expansions and upgrades.

Edit:

OK, well so far I have 330 or so m4a1. I plan to continue to farm those until I get 400. That should be enough right? I haven't purchased any tasers yet at all. I currently have 85 NVG's. Police vans? Are you talking about those ones you get from pvp? If so I have around 130 of those.

I have a little area sectioned off in my hood for gatling turrets. They don't take up much space and you can up them to level 4 pretty economically. I hear you can only get 50 defense buildings & I'm probably pretty close to that number.

M4A1s have the highest defense of any non-gold gun (that I am aware of), so I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want 500 of them.

For defense buildings you are allowed 50 of EACH type, considerably more than 50 total.

G Wiz
02-06-2012, 03:23 PM
Yanno JJ i wondered this too...it seems like we're running out of options at the moment.

I am hoping those special items like the diamond knuckles and golden m4's will soon become lootable.

Other than that, I dont see it happening

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:27 PM
OK, well so far I have 330 or so m4a1. I plan to continue to farm those until I get 400. That should be enough right? I haven't purchased any tasers yet at all. I currently have 85 NVG's. Police vans? Are you talking about those ones you get from pvp? If so I have around 130 of those.

I have a little area sectioned off in my hood for gatling turrets. They don't take up much space and you can up them to level 4 pretty economically. I hear you can only get 50 defense buildings & I'm probably pretty close to that number.

Its really hard to tell someone what too do.... It depends on how you play...

Also do you care about a good attack?
If I never cared about attack id just get the best defence weapons
(i would not do this tho... I like too beat the people i rob and attack)

Income level matters aswell...

I don't care that much about making money in the game now.... That means i'll never be able to afford the good items... but you might be different

J.J.
02-06-2012, 03:29 PM
Yanno JJ i wondered this too...it seems like we're running out of options at the moment.

I am hoping those special items like the diamond knuckles and golden m4's will soon become lootable.

Other than that, I dont see it happening

If those items are ever available, let me know, I'll fire up my John Deere & come pick you up! lol

I don't know what level you're at right now, but 140+ is BRUTAL. I was doing great up until then but lately I've been getting killed. Most players don't have an attack over 50,000 so that's why I threw that figure out there.

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:31 PM
If those items are ever available, let me know, I'll fire up my John Deere & come pick you up! lol

I don't know what level you're at right now, but 140+ is BRUTAL. I was doing great up until then but lately I've been getting killed. Most players don't have an attack over 50,000 so that's why I threw that figure out there.


I'll be up there soon...... Im not sure im going to even bother with defence... Im not sure non gold can even compete


I know iv upset PAYAM aswell lol........ Is it even possible to defend vs him?

whocareswhatmynameis
02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Perfect non-gold equipment attack 54,528
Perfect non-gold equipment defense 53,061

* defense buildings and explosives not included


source: duder's thread on end game equipment (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?17638-End-Game-Equipment)

Royal Flush
02-06-2012, 03:33 PM
To be honest, 50k defence is approaching the highest you can get with all the best respect items so without buildings and/or explosives its going to be very difficult! Besides respect items, buildings or explosives the only other way is to get the best buyable items but that is going to cost billions ... Literally!

J.J.
02-06-2012, 03:36 PM
I'll be up there soon......


I know iv upset PAYAM aswell lol........ Is it even possible to defend vs him?

Not really, last time I checked his profile he had an attack of about 78,000. So therefore if he doesn't like you, you're gonna get smoked.

Royal Flush
02-06-2012, 03:37 PM
I'll be up there soon......


I know iv upset PAYAM aswell lol........ Is it even possible to defend vs him?

His attack last time I looked was around 55k so possible to defend without buying gold, possible but very difficult & it's gonna take at least a year for most players to defend against that! Unless you have a bottomless trust fund I wouldn't get your hopes up for achieving it anytime soon!

Royal Flush
02-06-2012, 03:41 PM
JJs correct, nearly 78K now .... Even higher than the last time, was a while ago tho!

whocareswhatmynameis
02-06-2012, 03:42 PM
I know iv upset PAYAM aswell lol........ Is it even possible to defend vs him?

highly unlikely without spending real $$$.

you would need stats like nycpizzalover's......


Since the war with Payam has started, the only stat that I have been interested in has been my defense (I am mainly a peace loving guy lol). It is now sitting at 103,323.

Payam has not been able to attack me for last 4 weeks because he has lost numerous times. He has also failed in robbing me at all this week. My cash is now building up without losing the 10% penalty. All is now quiet on the Western front for me LMAO

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:42 PM
Say if you built every single low level 1 non gold defence building... what would that add....

Its gotta be a lot of true defence stats there

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:46 PM
like 50 x 25 D gattling guns would = 1250 D

Royal Flush
02-06-2012, 03:46 PM
Think it's around 12K actual defence ... so in theory to level 3 would be about 24k, even then with all the best items you'd still be on about even territory with payam

BBz
02-06-2012, 03:48 PM
Way Way too much commitment/effort put into the game for me.....

Royal Flush
02-06-2012, 03:50 PM
Lol yeah and by the time you get there Funzio would've closed the servers haha

K@le
02-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Way Way too much commitment/effort put into the game for me.....

What did you do to upset Payam, i am now lvl 125 and people at level 200 are already attacking me so you are only what 8-9 lvls away from him lol

helpme
02-06-2012, 05:41 PM
I am right now looking at Payam's profile: 76742A/92869D. His explosives total 22795A/23407D. Not so strong actually if you discount the explosives.

G Wiz
02-06-2012, 05:59 PM
I think I am going to pretend those players dont exist :)... for my sake...

procsyzarc
02-06-2012, 06:39 PM
Just accept that people who spend thousands on gold will beat you and move on unless you will end up becoming one of them. My losses are sky rocketing now since I mostly attack high level players and like to call losers out like payam to the point I now have a lower than 10:1 win ratio (29,800 wins vs 3000 losses) but at the end of the day who cares just can't see how simply buying stats can be any fun unless you are seriously compensating for something in real life. The whole fun of this game is building up respect, farming items and building an economy to support in game cash items to build up your stats, simply buying stats via gold items kills the whole fun of the game and the only winner is funzio (hence why they do it)

It is getting scary how many people have snapped though, now at L142 at least 1 in 3 on my rivals list would have spent at least $1000 on gold while many being $5000+ even though I don’t need the money and could easily afford to spend $000’s on a game I just can’t bring myself to do it since
1/ I don’t think funzio deserves that kind of money from one player for a simple application (even the $150 I have spent is way too much)
2/ It would make the game suck
3/ No matter how rich you are, can always find something better to piss $10,000 away on
4/ I want to see how far I can get without having to buy better stats

Back on topic don't include building in your 50,000 defence goal since they are broken I can often rob people even with 80k defence since a lot comes from buildings

blondealex
02-06-2012, 06:56 PM
Wow what a boost of self esteem. I am feeling weaker and more inadequate than ever.

madawgg
02-06-2012, 07:03 PM
it's entirely possible...just very time-consuming. i have seen pure game cash player reached 100000+ defense

xclusiv
02-06-2012, 07:39 PM
m4a1 - 500 x 22 = 11000
full combat gear - 500 x 27 13500
chain whips 500 x 19 9500
armour police truck - 500 x 19 9500

= defense 43,500

allhaildiscordia
02-06-2012, 07:45 PM
m4a1 - 500 x 22 = 11000
full combat gear - 500 x 27 13500
chain whips 500 x 19 9500
armour police truck - 500 x 19 9500

= defense 43,500
Armored Police Truck isn't the best defensive vehicle any more, but it will be hard to get the 8/21 Government Limo in large quantities. 480 energy with a 9% chance per click.

G Wiz
02-06-2012, 07:51 PM
Armored Police Truck isn't the best defensive vehicle any more, but it will be hard to get the 8/21 Government Limo in large quantities. 480 energy with a 9% chance per click. Yea that government limo loot is superglued to that court house.
I have 31 of em I think

Holicaholic
02-06-2012, 08:43 PM
I calculated a max attack of something like 65,000 with no use of gold, so I imagine it would be very possible to get a defense as high as you would like.