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Dr BoneCrusher
01-28-2012, 01:50 PM
I Have Spent Real Money On This Game Just Like Other Games, The IPhone I Play On and most other entertainment. So Whats The Problem? The People Who Made This Game Did A fairly Good Job Why Not Reward Them.

EnjoyLife
01-28-2012, 02:01 PM
You should reward them. I am a non-gold player and I have absolutely no problems with gold players.

JohnnyR
01-28-2012, 02:19 PM
Same reason I'd dislike any instance where big money presents tactical advantage over those using simply their wits. The point of any game with others is competition, getting further up in levels it seems Funzio's idea of making money destroys the point of the game, imo of course. Reading the posts here a common complaint is that any level over 50 is pointless for free players...and that's just among the people who post here-I'm wondering how many not here get tired of the brick walls presented over and over. I'm more disappointed in Funzio than the players. Always feels good to beat a guy who needs the crutch of gold though.

Mastermind
01-28-2012, 02:19 PM
There is nothing wrong with spending your money on a game that you enjoy. Funzio has made a fairly decent product here, and if it is providing you some entertainment/distraction then by all means you should donate some cash as a thank you. However, when some players spend what most would consider to be an unreasonable amount in order to gain an advantage then this ,imo, is what causes the resentment.

JackoV
01-28-2012, 02:54 PM
I think thats on the lower levels... I had many hate messages in the beginning.. now with higher rank people I dont get them anymore :)

Jamirocade Killer
01-28-2012, 03:11 PM
The problem is, spending just "some" money won't help a thing - I didn't buy gold and regularly win against gold players. You have to spend a LOT to have an advantage. And then it's unfair comparing to non-gold players...
Finally, just think about this: would you buy a game in the store costing $100? You normally think $50 is expensive enough. But here people don't think about it and just spend thousands... It's simply not reasonable at all.

Jamirocade Killer
01-28-2012, 03:16 PM
One more thing: the more players are willing to pay these aberrant ammounts of money without questioning it, the less Funzio is inclined to change something in the game to make it better. They WANT you to fail, so you desperately buy a lot of gold...

Speed ump
01-28-2012, 03:36 PM
The ones who get nasty will find any reason to berate you,if you are higher level you re bad for attacking lower level, you are American flag attacking American, you are bad, etc. JohnnyR doesn't like the gold play, but it seems he is more upset at the developers, and would not stoop to this level. I still dont get why some take it so seriously that they attack others with such hatred. I am fortounate to be able to afford to take advantage of the game as it is presented to us. Does the USA appologize to other countries for their ability to dominate with military. If so, I havnt heard of it, in fact a few days ago our wonderful president made it clear he would maintain our advantage, and increase our presence in different areas, mostly Asia.i did not hear an apology in his speech to any who may be offended.

JMC
01-28-2012, 08:25 PM
I dont care if someone wants to spend a few hundred dollars and i dont think most people do either. Gold is there to give you a boost. But when someone spends thousands and gets ahead and is attacking you, how can you like them? They dont have a better strategy or anything, they just bought their way up and all their power comes from their real life $. When someone like that takes your money, which you waited for to earn, it'll piss you off.

General Principle
01-28-2012, 09:22 PM
It's not a dislike of gold players. Hell, I'm a gold player (albeit two digit gold player, which at level 58 doesn't buy me crap for advantage). It's getting beat into the ground by high three and four digit gold players that pisses people off. Even that's not the fault of the players. They're just abiding by the rules laid down by Funzio. And you can't really blame Funzio for taking their money. But you have to admit that the lower middle class players have just cause to be annoyed when they invest a lot of time (and maybe a small chunk of legal tender) only to see their efforts evaporated by an instant super power. The rich guys just tend to unbalance the game for the rest of us. Maybe the devs should offer the less wealthy players a suicide bomber or an IED specialist or something to level the playing field. Either way, be happy for having that kind of disposable income. God knows I wish I did, but then I'd probably be spending it on something besides iPad apps.

ShawnBB
01-28-2012, 11:32 PM
It's not a dislike of gold players. Hell, I'm a gold player (albeit two digit gold player, which at level 58 doesn't buy me crap for advantage). It's getting beat into the ground by high three and four digit gold players that pisses people off. Even that's not the fault of the players. They're just abiding by the rules laid down by Funzio. And you can't really blame Funzio for taking their money. But you have to admit that the lower middle class players have just cause to be annoyed when they invest a lot of time (and maybe a small chunk of legal tender) only to see their efforts evaporated by an instant super power. The rich guys just tend to unbalance the game for the rest of us. Maybe the devs should offer the less wealthy players a suicide bomber or an IED specialist or something to level the playing field. Either way, be happy for having that kind of disposable income. God knows I wish I did, but then I'd probably be spending it on something besides iPad apps.


You are so right man.

From my perspective, I never hated any middle class hard working gold players.
They are enjoying and meanwhile suffering along with our free players. Few dollars is just a strategic way to help them get stronger.

They spent a reasonable amount of money started behind and surpassed me with their gold, but still turned out to be frustrated seeing the up above monstrous world.
I kinda feel sympathetic about them, because the strike and hurt they had must be way more than free players.

As long as those gold players put an acceptable effort in understanding this game system, they are very welcome as for our free players.

HOWEVER, there are indeed some kind of gold losers who have no clue of how to run this game. Poor ugly base, low income, but strong pure gold army.
For example, those guys who bought the highest density gold unit like robot walker while their fighting units is still far below 4xallie number just because of its cool looking! They jamed in as a game retard.

What I mean is I hate those gold players who don't even use their real money smartly or after some consideration. They are simply piling up dollars.
They are not only showing disrespect to life money, but also to this game, even further is to all of us who are playing and communicating on this game.

mdtacor
01-28-2012, 11:36 PM
I like gold players, 'cos without them there won't be any free ice cream, basketball courts, smoke shops, or churches :D

Bond
01-29-2012, 01:33 AM
Non-gold players are simply cannon fodder for the Gold players.

Seriously, guys - if you were designing a game like this, your business model would include a way to make he game fun for your customers (Gold players). There is a lot of whining about how unfair it all is - but this is reality.

I'm a non-gold player and like the challenge, but there is going to come a time when the odds are overwhelming. At that time, I'll have a fire sale and leave. But I understand all this going in. I'm playing while it's fun.

Dr BoneCrusher
01-29-2012, 05:39 AM
Nice To see Peoples Opinion But, Does Anyone Look At It As The Value Of The Entertainment?

JMC
01-29-2012, 07:56 AM
A free game always has to make money some way. They will alwayw have a cash shop. They can either choose a a build that will give players just a little boost and lots of customization options, or they will pick a build that will allow players to overpower everyone else if they spend enough. The ones that make people spend a lot dont last long. But they will make enough money for it to be worth it off those guys who would rather buy some virtual robot walkers than a car, or lifetime membership to a high quality game, or 200 other games both a ps3 and an xbox, a high quality 3d 70" smart tv and a surround sound system.

JMC
01-29-2012, 07:57 AM
Nice To see Peoples Opinion But, Does Anyone Look At It As The Value Of The Entertainment?

When people spend that much they kill the entertainment value for everyone they encounter.

Speed ump
01-29-2012, 09:27 AM
The free guys can actually do ok following a few ideas. Allways vault your money, and harvest your money on time. If there nothing there to get, then you give no reason or an attack or raid, other than occasional ones by people trying to complete goals, which don't really hurt oo bad if there's no lose change siting around. I troll for the ones that dont follow this process, and co pretty well, though people are doing a much better job than before. Part of that is the changes thee made in grouping levels. I could reach lower levels before, an many of those just had not figured things out yet, the higher they get, the better they understand things.if you can do this well, then I would say concentrate on attack more, as this method avoids the need for a great defense, which won't help with the big guys anyways. Also defense buildings don't have much value in the higher levels, concentrate more on the money building to buy more high value units. Or not, and then give me a better opportunity to add your money to mine:) you can't believe how frustrating it is or me to go o a base over and over, see nice money buildings with high value, but they harvest so well I can never get any.

Thevinegru
01-31-2012, 06:00 PM
I am going to make about $300,000 this year and I can't see spending a dime on this game. Why? I want some permanence. Why would I buy a $10 unit if it's just going to die? It seems to me like you're just tossing money away.

This game is the most expensive game I've ever seen. Unfortunately, it's also the best game of its type on ios.

Dover
01-31-2012, 06:08 PM
I am going to make about $300,000 this year and I can't see spending a dime on this game. Why? I want some permanence. Why would I buy a $10 unit if it's just going to die? It seems to me like you're just tossing money away.

This game is the most expensive game I've ever seen. Unfortunately, it's also the best game of its type on ios.

If you buy a unit to fight with gold it does not die, it never dies.

Thevinegru
01-31-2012, 06:12 PM
If you buy a unit to fight with gold it does not die, it never dies.

Thanks. That at least makes me want to spend a few bucks here and there.

Jergy
02-01-2012, 10:02 AM
It's not that I like them or dislike them. Usually when someone attacks me and wins I have to check out their stats and inventory. Just from that I can learn as to how I lost and how I can better my base and units. If the player is a gold buyer then I assume that gold buying is why they are so strong and I have nothing to learn from that player. Others I can see what they spent their valor points on and what kind of defense units/buildings they have. I can usually gather alot of info from these non-gold buyers and it can benefit me in the long run.

GodlikeNay
02-01-2012, 10:30 AM
I have no problem with the concept of Gold. Every quality free game needs to have some way to make money. I just think there is a right/smart way to do it. I think Gold should give the user a boost or more convenience. They should get some impact that makes it worth their money. But, Gold should never unbalance a game. Gold should never allow someone to completely dominate a non-gold user with a great strategy. If Gold makes strategy irrelevant (in a PvP game), then it has ruined the game. I wrote a thread a while ago regarding the need to change the game's economics called "Changing the Game's Economics" and I included a few ideas that I think would improve the game while still allowing for the usage of Gold. Check it out and share your thoughts. The easiest way to find it is to just search for my username "GodlikeNay".

Aidan
02-01-2012, 11:15 AM
I dnt hate the gold plyr. In fact i thanked thm coz they support the game. Without thm this game wont exist. I just hv less respect towards thm compared to a good free plyr. Whenever i lost an attck ( which rarely happend since i'm among of the highest in def at my lvl), i will look thm up. N 100% of the time it was a heavily gold armed plyr. N i will go like " ahhh, no wonder u won, u r richer thn me 😜