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Synergy
01-24-2012, 08:46 PM
I was under the impression that this vehicle wasn't actually farmable yet, but ran across someone in game that had 2 and got the location. Will report back if I get decent results.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 08:55 PM
I've been farming them since the update. Been averaging about 2-5 per day off of the helicopter gunship in the army base.

Synergy
01-24-2012, 09:01 PM
Hmmm really? Damn u guys been keepin that ish on the low. I didn't even know it was possible yet. I got a different location at the airport though. Do you know where the best drop rate is?

schnuffler
01-24-2012, 09:02 PM
What att/def stats are these babies?

Certes
01-24-2012, 09:04 PM
Airport is for crap. I've gotten 24 from the Army base, drops on average 2 per 2500 energy.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 09:06 PM
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?17045-Best-lootable-items

I just went off of the list allhaildiscordia had posted awhile back. Don't know about the other eq drop rates but the helicopter gunship seems to be pretty accurate at around 74% drop rate per 1000 energy.

stats are 18att/14def

Costs about 2.8 mil to unlock if I remember correctly.

Also it looks like allhaildiscordia has updated the job list along with new drop rates as well as loot for the last 3 map area's.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai8Zt3JFNCsmdHNRLXRrRGlPT0huczI5N290MTQ1d Hc#gid=0

Synergy
01-24-2012, 09:21 PM
Well I'm using HD and just used 6,000 energy on the helicopter gunship with no dice. :(

jlhy
01-24-2012, 09:38 PM
Just dropped for me. Might have been a bad streak. I play on a Iphone4 so wasn't able to farm these till after last weeks update. I've had a day where I dumped 4000 -5000 energy and didn't get a drop. Then the next day 6 ended up dropping.

http://i.imgur.com/mQPAf.jpg

Tramp Stamp
01-24-2012, 09:48 PM
Well I'm using HD and just used 6,000 energy on the helicopter gunship with no dice. :(


JI've had a day where I dumped 4000 -5000 energy and didn't get a drop.

You forgot to tap your belt buckle not once, not twice, but thrice while farming and that's why you didn't get any loot.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 09:51 PM
You forgot to tap your belt buckle not once, not twice, but thrice while farming and that's why you didn't get any loot.

Damn I still have so much more to learn :D

Synergy
01-24-2012, 10:05 PM
lol TS. I just used another 3k energy (for a total of over 9k used) with nothing to show for it. I think I'm done with that.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 10:12 PM
Ack sorry to hear that. Wonder if it might be a bug with the ipad for that particular job. I remember CC Mark saying to let him know if anyone notices any jobs not dropping loot that are supposed to. And from the amount of energy you just used you definitely should have gotten at least 1 at the minimum.

Tramp Stamp
01-24-2012, 10:24 PM
To anyone with farming doubts I suggest keeping rigorous statistical data. In my experience, actual payouts match what's reflected in game data, which is what's reported on allhaildiscordia's sheet. By 10 loots you should be hitting around the mean. I've heard from multiple Nadya "non-believers", and all I can say is I had the same awful 2-in-one-day experience only to be met with 3-in-4 the next morning when I dump my energy. Overall, my actual rate approximates reported rate. This was true for Junkyard as well, over thousands of trials.

I'd like to hear from anyone who experiences above reported rates long term but, to my knowledge, only khung has claimed such so far.

Tramp Stamp
01-24-2012, 10:31 PM
And from the amount of energy you just used you definitely should have gotten at least 1 at the minimum.

Over 6020 energy, the odds of obtaining at least one are 94.77% while expected return is 2.8.

EDIT: the failure rate is within three-sigma rule (three standard deviations), which basically means it's not enough to conclude that the experiment is ****ed.

bredo2
01-24-2012, 10:43 PM
I'm on this one for a few days as well. 8 the first 2 days, then the last 30 hours or so i have gotten absolutely nothing with probably 7k ep spent.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 10:44 PM
Over 6020 energy, the odds of obtaining at least one are 94.77% while expected return is 2.8.

EDIT: the failure rate is within three-sigma rule (three standard deviations), which basically means it's not enough to conclude that the experiment is ****ed.

Synergy said he used over 9k total though.

Tramp Stamp
01-24-2012, 10:55 PM
Synergy said he used over 9k total though.

That's the problem with drinking. Don't drink and math kids.

Anyway, over 9030 energy, the odds are 98.80%. Believe it or not, this actually changes nothing with respect to the three-sigma rule. However, expected return is 4.2.

Synergy
01-24-2012, 10:57 PM
I just used another 1k to try to make it conclusive and finally got one. That's one for over 10k energy used. I just hope it gets better.

jlhy
01-24-2012, 11:03 PM
Thanks for doing the math Tramp Stamp. I really suck at doing those types of calculations.

Synergy
01-24-2012, 11:11 PM
Make that one out of 13k. Yeah definitely not getting the kind of numbers to make it worthwhile at the moment.

bredo2
01-25-2012, 01:12 AM
Seems to me that they may have done some stealth-nerf to multi-jobs. I cant get a single drop of spiked hammer or double decker the last 40 hours. Spent 5-6k on decker and 2k on hammer. 2 days ago i would get atleast 5 deckers and 3-4 hammers with that spent.

Ghost818
01-25-2012, 03:07 AM
To anyone with farming doubts I suggest keeping rigorous statistical data. In my experience, actual payouts match what's reflected in game data, which is what's reported on allhaildiscordia's sheet. By 10 loots you should be hitting around the mean. I've heard from multiple Nadya "non-believers", and all I can say is I had the same awful 2-in-one-day experience only to be met with 3-in-4 the next morning when I dump my energy. Overall, my actual rate approximates reported rate. This was true for Junkyard as well, over thousands of trials.

I'd like to hear from anyone who experiences above reported rates long term but, to my knowledge, only khung has claimed such so far.
I was a believer in the shooting range for quite a while, ( got 410 from there) but in the past week I've noticed a drastic nerf over there, ever since ive been back on the forums after my 3 month absence and I got to say Nadya is the new Boardwalk. Just my two cents.

Ghost818
01-25-2012, 03:09 AM
Seems to me that they may have done some stealth-nerf to multi-jobs. I cant get a single drop of spiked hammer or double decker the last 40 hours. Spent 5-6k on decker and 2k on hammer. 2 days ago i would get atleast 5 deckers and 3-4 hammers with that spent.
I've actually gotten 7 drops from 2000 energy, 2 stone hammers 2 S&M Chokers and 4 consecutive m4's( from nadya) this was less than an hour ago (Iphone4)

Chiefer
01-25-2012, 03:58 AM
Whats the drop rate for them at airport?

Fragtopian
02-05-2012, 10:44 AM
To anyone with farming doubts I suggest keeping rigorous statistical data. In my experience, actual payouts match what's reflected in game data, which is what's reported on allhaildiscordia's sheet. By 10 loots you should be hitting around the mean. I've heard from multiple Nadya "non-believers", and all I can say is I had the same awful 2-in-one-day experience only to be met with 3-in-4 the next morning when I dump my energy. Overall, my actual rate approximates reported rate. This was true for Junkyard as well, over thousands of trials.

I'd like to hear from anyone who experiences above reported rates long term but, to my knowledge, only khung has claimed such so far.

I've hit Seymour 39 times now without double decker success (12090 energy). If it's true that the drop rate is 18%, something Is very wrong, or I'm the unluckiest person in the world (0.04% chance of 0 success, 7.02 expected value). Ipad version.

Tramp Stamp
02-05-2012, 11:21 AM
0.04% chance of 0 success, 7.02 expected value. Ipad version.

I can't help you with the HD version but can say there have been no changes to the game data since allhaildiscordia updated his loot spreadsheet.