New Buildings!

[Syn]

Now..what to build first...

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Also, some new weapons/armor...but I'm a bit more excited about the buildings :D

Edit: I have no idea how the brave heart thing got in here, I posted that in the Creativity board a while ago. Can't seem to delete it. So learn to love it!
Edit2: Learned how to delete it :p
Edit 3: Added Comedy Club pic and info.

Learned so far: Comedy Club (4x5 Footprint) - $3,000 every 6 hours, +$500 income per hour, 9 Hours to Construct, 509 Hours ROI* (I think I did this correct..)

[dudeman]

Lmfao

At what level are these new buildings available?

[Syn]

All the new money buildings start after the shoe store, so after level 38.

Sorry, the best I can do. I really regret upgrading my Movie Theater just 5 minutes prior to this update for 650k...

[dudeman]

... I just upgraded a MT too... Luckily I have a cuple hundred K and an IC that will finish building in the morning.

[Syn]

... I just upgraded a MT. Only a few hours left. I haven't seen anything in my store yet.

Have you restarted your game?

[dudeman]

Yeah.. About 2 seconds after I posted that, and I changed the post 2 seconds later. Lol

Looks good, but I would like to know the real estate requirements of the new buildings. Some of them look like they would be good for replacing my starter buildings, but only if they don't require extra space. Otherwise I see no reason to sell what I have, I can just dedicate a day or two of fundraising for an expansion and I'll be good.

Edit: Luckily my MT upgrade was only for 390k, but it still sucks that I could have done something cheaper and then built something new when my IC is finished in 6ish hours.

[Syn]

I sold my worthless electronic stores (lvl 2). For science! Will let you know..

[dudeman]

I only have one of those (lvl3) and I was thinking of getting a second due to the limited options. Not anymore though. Those buildings that require an uneven area of real estate are a pain to fit into a densely packed hood.

[Syn]

New maps too:

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[Max Power]

Now..what to build first...

629
631
632
633
634
635

Also, some new weapons/armor...but I'm a bit more excited about the buildings :D

New Missions:



Edit: I have no idea how the brave heart thing got in here, I posted that in the Creativity board a while ago. Can't seem to delete it. So learn to love it!
Edit2: Learned how to delete it :p
Edit 3: Added Comedy Club pic and info.

Learned so far: Comedy Club - $3,000 every 6 hours, +$500 income per hour, 9 Hours to Construct, 509 Hours ROI* (I think I did this correct..)

You forgot the Wholesale Warehouse. Weird 18 hour collection time too.

[K@le]

Lol didnt see it yet, i am now building a Comedy club, i think it uses the same footprint as an fish store building time 9 hours income 3k per 6 hour.

[corpsegrinder]

Beachside inn, 12,500/24hr, 16 hr build time

[Max Power]

Think I am gonna save up for an upscale club or 2. Somebody post the footprint when you see it.

[Cooz]

Beachside inn, 12,500/24hr, 16 hr build time

Looks to be 8x8

[Syn]

You forgot the Wholesale Warehouse. Weird 18 hour collection time too.

Dang, it won't let me put more pics due to limit. I knew I put it in, here it is: 638

If it's a 4x4, it's a new favorite of mine...

[corpsegrinder]

Yes. Beachside inn is 8x8. Weird glitch though, construction footprint only 4x4

[Max Power]

Dang, it won't let me put more pics due to limit. I knew I put it in, here it is: 638

If it's a 4x4, it's a new favorite of mine...

Not a fan of the 18 hour collect times. It's like Funzio wanted to make sure there were things for night owls to rob.

[madawgg]

my strategy is always going for 12 hours and 24 hours buildings so i dont waste much time in this game after all. but im saving money for a hotel so i guess u might disagree. but...i think after u upgrade ur loft and movie theater, the best way to boost ur economy is buying the highest level possible. ps. upscale club looks like a great deal!

[heath4pack]

Dang! Thanks for the heads-up! I had not noticed them yet...gonna get me a dominican restaurant and a comedy club today :)

[Max Power]

OK, diversion from saving for the upscale club. The Beachside Hotel is a 24 hour building so I am giving one of those a try first. I will post what the first upgrade costs when it is done. Looks to be about Brownstone level in stats, we shall see.

Now all I need is a beach.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

really excited. more 24 hr buildings!!! hooray...

[whocareswhatmynameis]

i'm building dominican restaurant- costs 125K, income is 8K/24hrs, takes 8 hours to build, and footprint is 4*5.

[allhaildiscordia]

Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 1 $100 $100.0/hr 150G ($8,000) 53.00 0:05:00 (0.0833333) 0.666666666667
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 2 $300 $300.0/hr $13,360 4:00:00 (4.0) 2.0
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 3 $600 $600.0/hr $22,311 7:00:00 (7.0) 4.0
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 4 $1,000 $1000.0/hr $37,259 12:15:00 (12.25) 6.66666666667
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 5 $1,500 $1500.0/hr $62,223 21:26:15 (21.4375) 10.0
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 6 $2,200 $2200.0/hr $103,913 1 day, 13:30:56 (37.5156) 14.6666666667
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 7 $3,100 $3100.0/hr $173,535 2 days, 17:39:08 (65.6523) 20.6666666667
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 8 $4,200 $4200.0/hr $289,804 4 days, 2:28:43 (98.4785) 28.0
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 9 $5,500 $5500.0/hr $483,973 5 days, 3:05:53 (123.098) 36.6666666667
1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 10 $7,500 $7500.0/hr $808,236 5 days, 15:24:29 (135.408) 50.0
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 1 $8,000 $333.33/hr $125,000 8:00:00 (8.0)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 2 $16,000 $666.67/hr $208,750 9:00:00 (9.0)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 3 $28,000 $1166.67/hr $348,612 10:00:00 (10.0)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 4 $44,000 $1833.33/hr $582,182 12:15:00 (12.25)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 5 $64,000 $2666.67/hr $972,245 21:26:15 (21.4375)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 6 $88,000 $3666.67/hr $1,623,649 1 day, 13:30:56 (37.5156)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 7 $116,000 $4833.33/hr $2,711,495 2 days, 17:39:08 (65.6523)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 8 $148,000 $6166.67/hr $4,528,196 4 days, 2:28:43 (98.4785)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 9 $184,000 $7666.67/hr $7,562,088 5 days, 3:05:53 (123.098)
31 Dominican Restaurant 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 10 $240,000 $10000.0/hr $12,628,688 5 days, 15:24:29 (135.408)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 1 $7,800 $433.33/hr $180,000 8:00:00 (8.0)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 2 $15,600 $866.67/hr $300,600 9:00:00 (9.0)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 3 $27,300 $1516.67/hr $502,002 10:00:00 (10.0)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 4 $42,900 $2383.33/hr $838,343 12:15:00 (12.25)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 5 $62,400 $3466.67/hr $1,400,033 21:26:15 (21.4375)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 6 $85,800 $4766.67/hr $2,338,055 1 day, 13:30:56 (37.5156)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 7 $113,100 $6283.33/hr $3,904,553 2 days, 17:39:08 (65.6523)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 8 $144,300 $8016.67/hr $6,520,603 4 days, 2:28:43 (98.4785)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 9 $179,400 $9966.67/hr $10,889,408 5 days, 3:05:53 (123.098)
33 Wholesale Warehouse 18:00:00 (18.0) 10 $234,000 $13000.0/hr $18,185,311 5 days, 15:24:29 (135.408)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 1 $3,000 $500.0/hr $250,009:00:00 (9.0)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 2 $6,000 $1000.0/hr $417,5012:00:00 (12.0)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 3 $10,500 $1750.0/hr $697,2218:00:00 (18.0)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 4 $16,500 $2750.0/hr $1,164,365 1 day, 3:00:00 (27.0)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 5 $24,000 $4000.0/hr $1,944,490 1 day, 16:30:00 (40.5)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 6 $33,000 $5500.0/hr $3,247,299 2 days, 12:45:00 (60.75)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 7 $43,500 $7250.0/hr $5,422,990 3 days, 13:03:00 (85.05)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 8 $55,500 $9250.0/hr $9,056,393 4 days, 23:04:12 (119.07)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 9 $69,000 $11500.0/hr $15,124,177 5 days, 22:53:02 (142.884)
35 Comedy Club 6:00:00 (6.0) 10 $90,000 $15000.0/hr $25,257,377 6 days, 13:10:19 (157.172)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 1 $12,500 $520.83/hr $325,000 16:00:00 (16.0)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 2 $25,000 $1041.67/hr $542,750 18:00:00 (18.0)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 3 $43,750 $1822.92/hr $906,392 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 4 $68,750 $2864.58/hr $1,513,675 1 day, 6:00:00 (30.0)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 5 $100,000 $4166.67/hr $2,527,838 1 day, 8:09:22 (32.1562)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 6 $137,500 $5729.17/hr $4,221,489 2 days, 0:14:04 (48.2344)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 7 $181,250 $7552.08/hr $7,049,887 3 days, 0:21:06 (72.3516)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 8 $231,250 $9635.42/hr $11,773,312 4 days, 12:31:37 (108.527)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 9 $287,500 $11979.17/hr $19,661,431 5 days, 15:39:32 (135.659)
39 Beachside Inn 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 10 $375,000 $15625.0/hr $32,834,590 6 days, 5:13:30 (149.225)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 1 $1,750 $1750.0/hr $1,000,000 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 2 $3,500 $3500.0/hr $1,670,000 1 day, 7:12:00 (31.2)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 3 $6,125 $6125.0/hr $2,788,900 1 day, 16:33:36 (40.56)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 4 $9,625 $9625.0/hr $4,657,463 2 days, 4:43:41 (52.728)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 5 $14,000 $14000.0/hr $7,777,963 2 days, 20:32:47 (68.5464)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 6 $19,250 $19250.0/hr $12,989,198 3 days, 17:06:37 (89.1103)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 7 $25,375 $25375.0/hr $21,691,961 4 days, 19:50:35 (115.843)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 8 $32,375 $32375.0/hr $36,225,575 5 days, 19:00:43 (139.012)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 9 $40,250 $40250.0/hr $60,496,711 6 days, 8:54:47 (152.913)
52 Beach Nightclub 1:00:00 (1.0) 10 $52,500 $52500.0/hr $101,029,508 7 days, 0:12:18 (168.205)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 1 $82,000 $3416.67/hr $4,000,000 12:00:00 (12.0)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 2 $164,000 $6833.33/hr $6,680,000 18:00:00 (18.0)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 3 $287,000 $11958.33/hr $11,155,600 1 day, 3:00:00 (27.0)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 4 $451,000 $18791.67/hr $18,629,852 1 day, 16:30:00 (40.5)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 5 $656,000 $27333.33/hr $31,111,852 2 days, 8:42:00 (56.7)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 6 $902,000 $37583.33/hr $51,956,794 3 days, 7:22:48 (79.38)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 7 $1,189,000 $49541.67/hr $86,767,846 4 days, 7:11:38 (103.194)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 8 $1,517,000 $63208.33/hr $144,902,303 5 days, 3:49:59 (123.833)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 9 $1,886,000 $78583.33/hr $241,986,846 5 days, 22:24:29 (142.408)
70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 10 $2,460,000 $102500.0/hr $404,118,034 6 days, 12:38:53 (156.648)

[Syn]

i'm building dominican restaurant- costs 125K, income is 8K/24hrs, takes 8 hours to build, and footprint is 4*5.

My first reaction to the building times was not happy. Then I realized that the biggest building I have built so far was the Movie Theater (8 Hours). I haven't had it so bad compared to 120 hour Crematoriums.

How dare they give us new buildings with such reasonable building times. :p

[schlumpf]

just casually strolled through the building list to copy the cost for some expensive underboss house, and looked... what?
building a dominican restaurant now, 8 hours as told :)

[Ram]

Beachside Inn is 16 hours to build!

[Syn]

I'm already saving for the Beach Nightclub. $1,750, every hour = ROI is about 23-24 days. This is probably a bad idea for a 12/24/48 player. But since I'm able to collect every hour/other hour that I'm awake, this is great compared to other similar tiered buildings.

[Amber_]

What is the size of the beach nightclub? Like a modern loft?
And what is the size of the beach hotel? Compared to another building.

[Duke.0]

Yea, they look great

Not sure how i feel about the 18 hour building..

But im building my second Dominican soon, looks like a good building :)

[allhaildiscordia]

The Dominican is basically a non-gold tycoon Smoke Shop. Upgrade times at the higher levels are identical.

[BigCheese]

wow new buildings

[dudeman]

I decided to get the beachside inn, which actually says waterfront inn right on it. Footprint is 7x8, takes 16 hours to build.

The new warehouse has the same footprint as the old warehouse, and both the comedy club and Dominican restaurant are 4x5. Hope that helps.

[Syn]

I decided to get the beachside inn, which actually says waterfront inn right on it. Footprint is 7x8, takes 16 hours to build.

The new warehouse has the same footprint as the old warehouse, and both the comedy club and Dominican restaurant are 4x5. Hope that helps.

Man! That warehouse looks tiny compared to the other one.. :( I wanted a 4x4 warehouse.. :p

We need a storage unit building :D

[Ram]

Upscale Club or Beach House

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Upscale Club or Beach House

what beach house?

[Duke.0]

what beach house?

Beachside Inn?

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Beachside Inn?

there are actually 2 beach related money buildings: beachside inn and beach nightclub.

@Ram: which one are you referring to?

[Ram]

there are actually 2 beach related money buildings: beachside inn and beach nightclub.

@Ram: which one are you referring to?

Night Club!

[Syn]

OK, diversion from saving for the upscale club. The Beachside Hotel is a 24 hour building so I am giving one of those a try first. I will post what the first upgrade costs when it is done. Looks to be about Brownstone level in stats, we shall see.

Now all I need is a beach.

Maybe that's a hint for the next decorations... or maybe defense?

Because you know what Crime City needs? Beach bunkers with barbed wire! Then we can make this more like a war game...oh wait never mind. :p

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Night Club!

setting aside collection time,
roi for beach nightclub: 23.8 days
roi for upscale club: 48.8 days

beach nightclub has better roi. BUT, since we all know that you will not be able to collect every hour, you would have to account for your personal game style. personally, i tend to prefer buildings with longer collection time, so i will buy the upscale club.

[heath4pack]

Maybe that's a hint for the next decorations... or maybe defense?

Because you know what Crime City needs? Beach bunkers with barbed wire! Then we can make this more like a war game...oh wait never mind. :p

good one LOL

Could be planning a merging of the two? JK :cool:

[G Wiz]

These new buildings got me excited! Sold two of my worthless electronic stores for space.

[Babytway]

I read beachside inn is 7x8 what other building is that size so i know how big or small it is, or how do i determine what is a 7x8? ty in advance

[Dorian Gray]

I read beachside inn is 7x8 what other building is that size so i know how big or small it is, or how do i determine what is a 7x8? ty in advance

Sidewalk squares, for instance a laundromat is 4x4.

[2Legit]

This new buildings got me excited too, cant decide which to build...built 2 already-Dominican Restaurant and Upscale Club...hmm whats next??

The newer areas are also intriguing, found good items, however the prices to unlock bosses n buildings are twice expensive >.<

[Tramp Stamp]

I sold my worthless electronic stores (lvl 2). For science! Will let you know..


These new buildings got me excited! Sold two of my worthless electronic stores for space.

Have to say that when the Electronic Store starts coming up on the ROI list it will be be a tough thing to say OK to. Same with Warehouse. Easily the most overrated building.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Have to say that when the Electronic Store starts coming up on the ROI list it will be be a tough thing to say OK to. Same with Warehouse. Easily the most overrated building.

agree! i sold my warehouses a long time ago. just sold a clothing store today to make space for new buildings. electronic stores are next on the chopping block.

[2Legit]

Why sell, when u can expand? Its a waste to sell, esp when you only get half back. Though, expanding is quite pricy, however, with more money buildings, you can earn easy money. Just have to build wisely.

[Syn]

Have to say that when the Electronic Store starts coming up on the ROI list it will be be a tough thing to say OK to. Same with Warehouse. Easily the most overrated building.


agree! i sold my warehouses a long time ago. just sold a clothing store today to make space for new buildings. electronic stores are next on the chopping block.

You know, I have been debating for awhile now whether I should just get rid of that stupid waste of space warehouse. I now have my confirmation that this is the smart thing to do! Thanks you two!

Edit: I also got rid of the clothing store about a week ago. Felt like an expansion in of itself! (When you are as cramped as I am at least :p)

[Dorian Gray]

I just can't bring myself to sell back 'both' of any kind of buildings, no matter how crappy the payout. One thing I focus on in my hood is variety. The electronic store is unique as far as design and color scheme, and it has little satellite dishes on the roof. How can you get rid of the building with the cool little satellite dishes? lol

I guess I could just buy one back later when I have room. They are only $2,100!

Nope, gonna keep one. I guess I have a lot of expanding to do.

Oh, I did sell both diners a while back, still miss not having one.

[OG Kush]

I bought a beachhouse inn. Just now. Got to save up for that upgraded club.

[Euchred]

Just finished building my second creamatorium thank god. Can't wait to build all the new 1 day buildings, I personally can't stand the idea of an 18 hour building. This comes right when I think my hood is big enough not anymore though.

[Syn]

Oh, I did sell both diners a while back, still miss not having one.

Haha, I sold one a LONG time ago. Every single expansion I get, I tell myself i'm going to fit a Diner in somewhere. 70 levels later, still just 1 lone diner.

[Euchred]

I bought a beachhouse inn. Just now. Got to save up for that upgraded club.

I just built one too, I'm going to do another one right after. I'm scrapping my plan of upgrading my other MT to lvl 6 and saving for the upscale club it seems like a good pick up.

[procsyzarc]

Can you all stop selling your clothing stores and wharehouses they give very good respect and xp, unless the new building do to then never mind

[Dorian Gray]

Haha, I sold one a LONG time ago. Every single expansion I get, I tell myself i'm going to fit a Diner in somewhere. 70 levels later, still just 1 lone diner.

With all the new building options I wonder when you'll get to it now, if ever. lol

And I was thinking I wouldn't have to worry about expanding for a little while. So much for that.
Too many bulding choices is a good problem to have though, so I'm happy. :)

[Euchred]

Anyone know the build time on the upscale club?

[dudeman]

I still can't bring myself to sell any buildings. I think I am getting close to the point where I will have to though. Once it gets to the point where my stats aren't keeping up with my level gain, I think I will have to camp. This is something I have been trying to avoid since day 1, but at least I might be able to reorganize my hood and reassess my game plan.

[G Wiz]

I still can't bring myself to sell any buildings. I think I am getting close to the point where I will have to though. Once it gets to the point where my stats aren't keeping up with my level gain, I think I will have to camp. This is something I have been trying to avoid since day 1, but at least I might be able to reorganize my hood and reassess my game plan.Yeaa, it should never be a funneral service for killing off crap that should die...imo...

[Syn]

Anyone know the build time on the upscale club?

Yeah, didn't you see allhaildiscordia's post? Well, it is kind of hard to read, I'll translate this line as best I can.

70 Upscale Club 1 day, 0:00:00 (24.0) 1 $82,000 $3416.67/hr $4,000,000 12:00:00 (12.0)

Looks like this ^, translates to this:

70 (Level Requirement), Upscale Club (Name of Building), 1 day, 0:00:00 ((24.0) Collection Time), $82,000 (Amount per collection), $3416.67/hr (Amount per hour it is making, added to your stats), $4,000,000 (Cost to Build), 12:00:00 (12 Hours to finish construction).

Confusing, but you will get used to it pretty quick. If I made a mistake, let me know!

[dudeman]

Sorry to stray from the topic a little, but I think this question I have fits here.

Are the following early level buildings worth keeping/upgrading once you reach higher levels?:
- Laundromat
- Pizza Parlor
- Souvenir Store
- Barbershop
- Deli
- Clothing Store
- Electronics Store

I feel the space could be better used and would rather put money towards that than expansions right now.

[Ram]

I'm buying the Upscale Club as soon the Beach Inn finish!

[Syn]

Sorry to stray from the topic a little, but I think this question I have fits here.

Are the following early level buildings worth keeping/upgrading once you reach higher levels?:
- Laundromat
- Pizza Parlor
- Souvenir Store
- Barbershop
- Deli
- Clothing Store
- Electronics Store

I feel the space could be better used and would rather put money towards that than expansions right now.

I'm going to take a stab at this, but don't take my word for it. I would keep the LM through the Deli. Do a full collection on those 5 buildings (x2) at level 10, and i'm sure it's a nice chunk of change. Besides, they are only 4x4's :p (Edit: Well not the Souvenir Store, still worth it in my eyes though.)

Plus, those upgrades are relativity cheap compared to every other building.

[dudeman]

So I should pretty much not even bother camping out and cleaning up my hood to make room for some of the higher paying buildings, and instead just camp out upgrading what I have and buying expansions.

That is both what I figured, and what I was hoping would not be the case.

[Tramp Stamp]

I would keep the LM through the Deli.

Basically, the Type A buildings. Most of the early Type B buildings are at a severe disadvantage in that their bases aren't much, if anything, over the Type A buildings and their slow growth isn't nearly enough to compensate. I think the underrated Arcade is an exception. Generally appealing Type B buildings start to become available in the late 20s, but their upgrade prices are very steep compared to the early Type A buildings. As a consequence, many players express dismay over the "dead zone" buildings available from level 9 through circa 30. Seafood Restaurant (32) is about the point where Type B buildings should start being listened to because their base payouts start to become enough to offset their inherent lower growth and higher upgrade prices.


Well not the Souvenir Store, still worth it in my eyes though.

Souvenir store is severely underrated. Upgrade sticker prices are not expensive in the least, it's comparatively fast to get to level 10, and the $/hr is better than five Type B buildings and equal to the Arcade. Compared to the Arcade, it's way cheaper in both time and money to upgrade and has a far more convenient pickup time. Meanwhile the Meat Factory at level has 10 a mere $275/hr advantage at a cost of double the upgrade time and nearly 30x the sticker price.

[Tramp Stamp]

So I should pretty much not even bother camping out and cleaning up my hood to make room for some of the higher paying buildings, and instead just camp out upgrading what I have and buying expansions.

That is both what I figured, and what I was hoping would not be the case.

Fortunately or unfortunately, there's a strong argument to upgrade these puny buildings, even though you're waiting 24-60 hours for something that adds a few hundred dollars at most to your $/hr figure. The reason it works out is that the buildings are so cheap to upgrade and grow so fast that they win out when compared to slower growing buildings that, while seemingly have more attractive payouts, are comparatively expensive to upgrade. Of course, there is the long view outlook that examines steady state income, but this eliminates most Type B buildings due to the existence of the "big three" of Movie Theater, Loft, and Nightclub.

[Syn]

So I should pretty much not even bother camping out and cleaning up my hood to make room for some of the higher paying buildings, and instead just camp out upgrading what I have and buying expansions.

That is both what I figured, and what I was hoping would not be the case.

You can do both in my opinion. Slowly upgrade those base buildings, use the profits to keep upgrading them, save the excess you don't need at the moment. Use that savings for expansions and bigger buildings.

I don't have a huge hood at all, my next expansion is 750k. But my hourly income is just shy of 30k. I level all my buildings (with exceptions) equally. I don't like camping at all, and I haven't. I keep my mafia below 300 and nobody bothers me. Level 94 and going strong, but this is in large part because of my building defense. At 25 gold a pop, and cheap upgrades, Bodyguard Agencies are the best gold buildings I have. I can build one and have it to level 6 easily in less than a day. Level 6 Agency is 243 defense. Then, I upgrade to level 7 (341 Defense) overnight. Those that do try to rob, don't come back for seconds usually :p

Even though a few days ago this guy had me zero'd in for a week! He only got my 3 hour buildings every morning while I slept though. I can deal with a 10k loss a day. I just let him do his thing until I was out of his news and rival list. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't still looking :p

[Syn]

Souvenir store is severely underrated. Upgrade sticker prices are not expensive in the least, it's comparatively fast to get to level 10, and the $/hr is better than five Type B buildings and equal to the Arcade. Compared to the Arcade, it's way cheaper in both time and money to upgrade and has a far more convenient pickup time. Meanwhile the Meat Factory at level has a mere $275/hr advantage at a cost of double the upgrade time and nearly 30x the sticker price.

Couldn't agree more! I really am a huge fan of any 3 hour building, but especially these. Everyone overlooks them when robbing, much like the barbershop and gun stop. If I see a level 5+ gun shop, i'm going to rob it for easy money. Level 5 is when it just peeks over 1k in robbery profit. Barbershops level 8+ also give a few thousand. (Edit: I know gun shops/barbershops are not 3 hour buildings, just pointing out that people overlook them when robbing.)

But there isn't anything I could say more about the Souvenir store that Tramp did. When I said "Well not the Souvenir store", I meant it isn't a 4x4 footprint :p

[dudeman]

@Syn
My next expansion is only 400k, and I get roughly $13k/h. I have been trying to level my buildings evenly but the longer upgrade times of those old buildings makes doing that far less appealing than building something new that earns more than the upgrade would. I know the long upgrade times should give me time to save for something else, but when I sit on a pile of cash for that long, it ends up getting spent on equipment... I can't do anything in my hood so I get into fights, and then I start getting rivals on my list with higher and higher stats, and then I have little choice.

They should rename this game "Crack City", because no matter what I do in any aspect of the game, it always feels like I need a lot more of everything!
Edit: It's even to the point where sometimes I wish I wasn't against the idea of buying gold! No wonder they don't make any effort to give free gold. I even filled out that survey and got nothing.

[Tramp Stamp]

If I see a level 5+ gun shop, i'm going to rob it for easy money. Level 5 is when it just peeks over 1k in robbery profit. Barbershops level 8+ also give a few thousand.

I really should be asleep right now but realized that if I go to sleep right now I won't have quite enough money to fund the $21k Italian Restaurant upgrade when I wake up due to my recent spending spree. I was mindlessly looking at how much money players had on-hand as at level 17 there's generally not much of interest to rob. It was then I came across a player with a hoard of level 6-7 buildings that haven't been collected in 48+ hours. Warehouses, Houses, Gun Shops, Electronics Stores, Barbershops, and more. I've been camping here for the past hour and have made about $40k. I might regret the exp gain when I wake up but hell it's been fun.

[Tramp Stamp]

I really am a huge fan of any 3 hour building

One of my favorites is when the "sea of 3 hours" lights up and I collect some $10,000 in about 10 seconds. Then add the 6 hours to every other collection.

Edit: The "sea" just lit up with some 8 hours (Delis) and a 12 hour (Movie Theater) and I raked $20k in ten seconds. Now I have enough for almost 4 level 4 Italian Restaurant upgrades, haha.

[Tramp Stamp]

I even filled out that survey and got nothing.

When? It took me over a week for a payout.

[Syn]

One of my favorites is when the "sea of 3 hours" lights up and I collect some $10,000 in about 10 seconds. Then add the 6 hours to every other collection.

Bahaha, I have mine in a big backwards C covering half my hood. Makes me wish I could just glide my finger over them instead tapping :p. I collect them up, set my phone stopwatch for 3 hours, continue on my day. Make an easy 150k+ a day on just 3 hour buildings. (To be fair I have six 3 hour gold buildings (Chapel, Ice cream, Sushi), without them I wouldn't make anywhere near that amount.)

[Max Power]

I have a sea of 12 hour buildings that nets me 350k in ten seconds, and I am sure there are people well above me that could add a comma to that number.

Lower level buildings are fine, when looking at a spreadsheet they may even make sense, but look in any hood over level 125 and you become hard pressed to find em. There is a reason for that. Eventually, a level 10 Souvenir Store income is a rounding error in your total economy, and the space can be used so much more efficiently. Space upgrades are never factored into building ROIs, and if you just spent 3 mil for more space to save your Clothing Store, you are probably not looking at the big picture.

[Anubis]

It was then I came across a player with a hoard of level 6-7 buildings that haven't been collected in 48+ hours. Warehouses, Houses, Gun Shops, Electronics Stores, Barbershops, and more. I've been camping here for the past hour and have made about $40k. I might regret the exp gain when I wake up but hell it's been fun.

Robbing generally gives the best respect so the exp is a good trade off, although other than the warehouse the respect gain is pretty minimalon those buildings I think.

I personally hate the souvenior store. It might be useful at lower levels but after a while the income on it is to low for the space it takes up, that and the fact it is the most ugly building in the game. I hate them, selling my level 6 store to fit in a chappel was a good move for me personally.

[Anubis]

Once I hit 90 and HL's started whacking me I have just been Whacking my way leveling up with the aim to stop whacking and go back to robbing at level 125 when I can build the game changing Gentleman clubs. If you go into level 90 with good win/loss and rob win/loss records that will change when HL's start beating on you. Getting out of that territory as quick as possible is a good time to really build up on PVP loot that I think is underated. You can watch your att go up after each PVP loot win in the fight log. I'm glad I took my time leveling up to 90 though.

[Cooz]

Once I hit 90 and HL's started whacking me I have just been Whacking my way leveling up with the aim to stop whacking and go back to robbing at level 125 when I can build the game changing Gentleman clubs. If you go into level 90 with good win/loss and rob win/loss records that will change when HL's start beating on you. Getting out of that territory as quick as possible is a good time to really build up on PVP loot that I think is underated. You can watch your att go up after each PVP loot win in the fight log. I'm glad I took my time leveling up to 90 though.

I'm currently at level 93 and I don't have HLs attacking me. I think you got grandfathered in with the old cut off.

[Cooz]

When? It took me over a week for a payout.

It's been probably a month and I got squat...lame...

[whocareswhatmynameis]

... Eventually, a level 10 Souvenir Store income is a rounding error in your total economy, and the space can be used so much more efficiently.

hey, you hurt my feelings ;) love my 2 lvl 10 souvenir shops. granted they are lower down in the food-chain, but they are not as bad as you think. did you know that souvenir shop is more space efficient than 13 other buildings including basketball court, chinese restaurant and history museum?

[Max Power]

hey, you hurt my feelings ;) love my 2 lvl 10 souvenir shops. granted they are lower down in the food-chain, but they are not as bad as you think. did you know that souvenir shop is more space efficient than 13 other buildings including basketball court, chinese restaurant and history museum?

Yup, but still don't care....LOL! See how many there are in the higher level hoods and you will see what I mean.

FYI...the Beachside Hotel, the upgrade is Type B, takes 18 hours and costs $542,750, for those that care.

[Ram]

I'm not liking the Beachside Inn so far but whatever I will keep it for now...

Are the dominican restaurant worth buying?

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Yup, but still don't care....LOL! See how many there are in the higher level hoods and you will see what I mean.

regardless, i don't see a scenario where i sell buildings i invested LOTS OF TIME in upgrading to level 10. i invested 236 hours for 1 souvenir shop... that's almost 20 days for both!!! no, i won't sell them, EVER.


FYI...the Beachside Hotel, the upgrade is Type B, takes 18 hours and costs $542,750, for those that care.
all new buildings have similar upgrade pattern.

[Tramp Stamp]

While Souvenir Stores may not appear in many high level hoods, it's not like a player can open with level 10 Casinos. There seems to be a "generational gap" going on here where higher level players have forgotten how they got to where they are. while a Souvenir Shop may not deliver high value to a level 150 player, it will have paid for itself many times over by the time a decision is made to sell it.

Another "generational gap" sentiment I've occasionally seen on the forum is lack of consideration toward lower level equipment, as if one can start farming M4A1s right off the bat.

[dudeman]

FML (beachside inn finished building this morning and now I discover it's a Type B), FML (M4A1s - two days worth of energy spent, plus two level refills, TWO guns looted), and FML (I did that survey well over a week ago, possibly two weeks and still nothing).

Seems like this game is really hell bent on slowing my progress and reducing my success right now. Or maybe I just feel that way because I had managed to save up a big pile of cash, spent it all, and haven't seen any rewards yet. Oh, and I'm broke. Again/still.

[Amber_]

Can someone please answer my question..?
I know that the beachside inn is 7x8 but what size is that compared to another building? Is there a building with the same size..?

[Jack Bauer 24]

These new buildings look pretty cool. Was thinking of buying two of the Dominican resteraunts. Is it worth buying any of these new(not just the dominican resteraunt) or older higher end buildings when I'm at level 42 or should I be putting my money elsewhere? I have a little over $1.3 mill in bank.

[Tramp Stamp]

It's basically the same size as a Warehouse, Movie Theater, or Loft but one side is slightly shorter. The minuscule size difference is unlikely to have a significant impact on placement.

[Syn]

Can someone please answer my question..?
I know that the beachside inn is 7x8 but what size is that compared to another building? Is there a building with the same size..?

Odd Shaped Buildings:

Fish Store: 5x4
Chicken and Waffles: 5x6
Blues Club: 5x4
Seafood Restaurant: 5x6
Internet: 7x6
Bodyguard Agency: 4x5

I have been meaning to do this for awhile. I'm sure there are more, these are just off the top of my head.

[Syn]

I have 2 level 2 Dominican Restaurants, a level 1 Comedy Club, and building a Beachside Inn. I'm happy :D

On a side note, the Beachside Inn is the ugliest building I have seen so far. Overall all of them, just eww.

[Cooz]

While Souvenir Stores may not appear in many high level hoods, it's not like a player can open with level 10 Casinos. There seems to be a "generational gap" going on here where higher level players have forgotten how they got to where they are. while a Souvenir Shop may not deliver high value to a level 150 player, it will have paid for itself many times over by the time a decision is made to sell it.

Another "generational gap" sentiment I've occasionally seen on the forum is lack of consideration toward lower level equipment, as if one can start farming M4A1s right off the bat.

A "gap" is definitely the right word to describe it, whether that's generational or based on experience.

The way to get stronger is to raise your lowest end, not your highest. Going heavily after M4s is a reasonable strategy for someone who's leveled high enough to have gotten a lot of energy, but for someone at the low levels, if you're fighting with baseball bats and broken bottles, you should probably spend your resources on improving on those with realistic weapons. I've been looting M4s for what feels like forever, and I have a ton of them, but until you get to that point, you're vulnerable. Make your weakest mob stronger, that's the key (in my useless opinion).

[Cooz]

FML (beachside inn finished building this morning and now I discover it's a Type B

Do we have any reason to believe any of these will be Type A?

[Tramp Stamp]

Only if they're unlocked before level 8-9.

[Cooz]

Only if they're unlocked before level 8-9.

Exactly, so it's more accurate to accept the Type B as the standard, and the Type A as the bonus. I asked that question in an effort to point that out.

[dudeman]

Odd Shaped Buildings:

Fish Store: 5x4
Chicken and Waffles: 5x6
Blues Club: 5x4
Seafood Restaurant: 5x6
Internet: 7x6
Bodyguard Agency: 4x5

I have been meaning to do this for awhile. I'm sure there are more, these are just off the top of my head.

Comedy Club: 4x5
Beachside Inn: 7x8


I have 2 level 2 Dominican Restaurants, a level 1 Comedy Club, and building a Beachside Inn. I'm happy :D

On a side note, the Beachside Inn is the ugliest building I have seen so far. Overall all of them, just eww.

That's why all you can see of my beachside inn are the back side of the billboard and the smaller part of the roof. Hopefully I will get to keep it hidden after I fix my building footprints.

[Max Power]

regardless, i don't see a scenario where i sell buildings i invested LOTS OF TIME in upgrading to level 10. i invested 236 hours for 1 souvenir shop... that's almost 20 days for both!!! no, i won't sell them, EVER.


all new buildings have similar upgrade pattern.

No, you are one of the rare ones that maxed it out. You are too heavily invested to dump it. Most don't go past level 3 before they ditch it.

And I think the Gingerbread house is type A, and I Posted the upgrade data for those looking at the cost more than the type. The upgrade costs are usually the mystery.

[Dorian Gray]

I don't mind the look of the Beachside Inn building, I just don't like the fact that the tables and chairs out front are so tiny and out of proportion in comparison to the size of the 'decoration' tables and benches. I guess I'm just weird like that.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

And I think the Gingerbread house is type A, and I Posted the upgrade data for those looking at the cost more than the type. The upgrade costs are usually the mystery.

yes you are right. my bad.

[wupuck]

Can someone please answer my question..?
I know that the beachside inn is 7x8 but what size is that compared to another building? Is there a building with the same size..?

Dominican Restaurant & Comedy Club are both 5x4
Wholesale Warehouse 8x8

[xclusiv]

im really liking that upscale club im saving up for it, thats one sexy building

[Cheers]

im really liking that upscale club im saving up for it, thats one sexy building

I agree with you! It looks awesome! Just like a gold plated club! But 4 million! :(

[Tramp Stamp]

1 Gingerbread House 1:00:00 (1.0) 1 $100 $100.0/hr 150G ($8,000) 53.00 0:05:00 (0.0833333) 0.666666666667

Need help with some fields:

1 = Exp level unlocked
Gingerbread House = Name
1:00:00 = Output time (HMS)
(1.0) = Output time (hrs)
1 = Level
$100 = Output
$100.0/hr = Hourly output
150G = Gold cost
($8,000) = Gold equivalent cost
53.00 = ????
0:05:00 = Construction time (HMS)
(0.0833333) = Construction tme (hrs)
0.666666666667 = ????

EDIT: Okay, 0.666666666667 is $/hr/gold. 53.00 * 150 = $7,950. Is this the gold equivalent price before rounding?

[mongorie]

The upscale club just reeks of class...none of my gold buildings are actually gold coloured... totally unfair

[Max Power]

im really liking that upscale club im saving up for it, thats one sexy building

Agree, it's my favorite building. I am halfway to my 2nd one. I even bought a sidewalk palm for the front of it.

[xclusiv]

out of the new buildings my recommendation would be ginger bread house, upscale club and dominican resturant.

i dont recommend beachside inn,

and the others havent looked at carefully yet.

[Troy125]

I think comedy club too since it gives better stat than dominican restaurant

[xclusiv]

i dont compare different hour buildings to each other

[Max Power]

By the way, nobody has bothered to compliment me on my hood before, but since I built the first upscale club a couple of days ago, I have received three compliments on how good my hood looks....LOL!

I guess this building is a consensus favorite.

[ShotInTheDark]

Agree, it's my favorite building. I am halfway to my 2nd one. I even bought a sidewalk palm for the front of it.

I'm halfway to my second one as well. But I didn't jew out and get a palm tree. I got a 900k fountain to go between them. I got money and I like to waste it.

[xclusiv]

By the way, nobody has bothered to compliment me on my hood before, but since I built the first upscale club a couple of days ago, I have received three compliments on how good my hood looks....LOL!

I guess this building is a consensus favorite.

lol i have nearly every gold building, but i dont get any compliments either saving up for the club maybe it will change that aswell lol

[Cooz]

But I didn't jew out and get a palm tree. I got a 900k fountain to go between them. I got money and I like to waste it.

That's cute, pal. Brag about your accomplishments in a video game by using a racial stereotype incorrectly. Could you be more ignorant?

[Max Power]

Welp, I robbed the new warehouse and got 31k per tap. That puppy was really leveled up.

It's a pretty new building, so the guy must have it to level 7 or 8 already.

That was a nice surprise.