How is everyone spreading out their skill points?

[J.J.]

I'm wondering what's most effective. So far I've concentrated on boosting energy to complete jobs. Anyway, here's how I have mine spread out:

Attack - 10
Defense - 15
Energy - 3250
Stamina - 15

I'm wondering if I should put more into attack or defense. I'm OK with my stamina being at 15.

[ShotInTheDark]

Why so much energy?... even if i let my energy refill all night it only refills about 1200... so i quit raising my energy at 1200...

My skill spread
Attack - 102
Def - 15
Energy - 1200
stamina - 12

Every skill I get from this point on is going to attack because i don't need anymore energy or stamina and i figure i can always increase my defense with defense building upgrades... so i figure attack is the most important... just my opinion though

[J.J.]

I have so much energy b/c a lot of these jobs you have to do on the higher up maps take a ton of energy. It's crazy when you have to hit someone 15 times at 350 energy just to defeat them.

I'll prob throw more skill points toward attack and defense, it seems like I might have enough energy.

[Kirbnite]

My skill points are:

Attack: 40
Defense: 11
Energy: 1930
Stamina: 60

I figure I will get energy up to 2160 = 12 hours at refil of 3 points per minute.
Currently have 3 hours of stamina 60 = 1 refil every 3 minutes.

I will be adding to attack and defense after satisfied with the other 2 categories.

Stamina = more fights = PvP loot items and many respect points = much higher mafia attack and defense.

My goal is to get to 6 hours of stamina by the time I hit level 200 when we stop getting more skill points to use up.

So plan to have Stamina of 120, energy of 2160 and the rest spead out over attack and defense.

[ShotInTheDark]

Do you really stop getting skill points at lvl 200?
is that true and if so how do you know?

[ShotInTheDark]

If the level cap is 200 right now, keep in mind that the creators of the game can easily raise the level cap and create new buildings in an update... and if the game is still popular once people start getting to lvl 200 then they will most likely add more content rather than let the game die... creators of games like these won't let it die til they can't make any more money...

[General Madness]

Mine is

Att 28
Def 28
Egy 2000
Stamina 20

[rustbinlid]

ATT 32
DEF 35
ENERGY 1750
STAMINA 45

And I have another 300 skill points to put some where, based on the level up to 200 and the extra skill points they give as a prize.

[Max Power]

Do you really stop getting skill points at lvl 200?
is that true and if so how do you know?

You obviously quit getting them for leveling up, as there is nowhere left to level up to, but you could still get 1 skill point for each map once you have completed it 5 times.

Attack: 59
Defense: 59
Energy: 940
Stamina: 25

I am at level 79.

[Duke.0]

At level 65 i'm at:

Attack - 30
Defense - 31
Energy - 970
Stamina - 29

[Hugh Bris]

Level 91

Attack - 87
Defense - 113
Energy - 800
Stamina - 13

[Mb Tnk]

I've seen/read a few people on the forum that have had "issues" once there attack/defense skill points have gone over 100... maybe there is a calc issue with the game... who knows.

[Dorian Gray]

Lvl-67

Atk-20
Def-1
Energy-1530
Stamina-25

I stopped putting any points in Atk/Def because #1 I don't know how they work and #2 I never seem to lose a fight I think I should win. I pretty much follow the 'only atk someone with 80% of your atk worth of def' rule.

[procsyzarc]

Dam and I was reggretting spending too much on energy already and I have none compared to everyone else

L54
Att 89
Def 1
Egy 360
Stamina 28

Will just be adding 1 stam and 1 attack each level from now on untill at least 75 stam

[TemplarX]

Mark mentioned in a thread that the attack and defense skill points is a multiplier: actual attack points = (attack skill * level specified multiplier) + weapon attack points.

I am level 69
Attack = 78
Defense = 61
Energy = 600 (just enough for some farming activities, without getting too much toxic xp)
stamina = 15 (need more, but compensated by my frequent log in)

[whocareswhatmynameis]

level: 62
attack: 5
defense: 25
energy: 860
stamina: 40
unused: 9

i've stopped spending skills till i figure things out. clearly, there is no consensus on the utility of skills for attack and/or defense.

[rustbinlid]

Dam and I was reggretting spending too much on energy already and I have none compared to everyone else

L54
Att 89
Def 1
Egy 360
Stamina 28

Will just be adding 1 stam and 1 attack each level from now on untill at least 75 stam

I can think of more than one place on the maps where the 1 tap of energy required is more than you have in total. But you can ignore that advice if you like.

[J.J.]

I can think of more than one place on the maps where the 1 tap of energy required is more than you have in total. But you can ignore that advice if you like.

A lot of places are like that when you get up into Chinatown, Hospitality District, etc. I think everyone should at least have 1,000 energy. If you don't have that much, it's going to take you literally forever to finish a map.

[Diogo Mota]

level 135

atack 15
defense 15
energy 4000
stamina 139

[Vile Lynn]

level: 62
i've stopped spending skills till i figure things out. clearly, there is no consensus on the utility of skills for attack and/or defense.

Who... Unless it was a glitch or something was changed or fixed, I was "saving" mine up, too. Then I leveled up and they disappeared back to only 3 to use. Maybe I should have complained to Funzio to get them back, but eh, just a game & happened early in mine. Guess one could save them, but it is a risk I'm not taking again.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

Who... Unless it was a glitch or something was changed or fixed, I was "saving" mine up, too. Then I leveled up and they disappeared back to only 3 to use. Maybe I should have complained to Funzio to get them back, but eh, just a game & happened early in mine. Guess one could save them, but it is a risk I'm not taking again.

thanks. i will promptly use my skill points as i am risk-averse. :)

[hambergler]

Gonna go all ATK from now on as Energy is pretty much useless now since I can sleep for 9 hours and not be fully refilled and I generally am satisfied with the amount of stamina I have


Lvl 104

ATK 82
Defense 1
Energy 1760
Stamina 43

[procsyzarc]

I can think of more than one place on the maps where the 1 tap of energy required is more than you have in total. But you can ignore that advice if you like.

This may be an issue latter but at the moment I perfer to level up by fights rather than the maps and am at least 6 maps behind my level but since i never lose a fight any more except against people who have spent (or hacked)
$1000's+ in gold items it seems to work. Just wish i hadn't lost those 450 fights when i first started playing beofre I realised how equipment and mafia members worked.

[OG Kush]

I'm level 82
Attack -50
Defence -50
Engery -1390
Stamina -13
Goal at level 200 is 100 att/def, 20 stamina, rest on energy.

[Max Power]

This may be an issue latter but at the moment I perfer to level up by fights rather than the maps and am at least 6 maps behind my level but since i never lose a fight any more except against people who have spent (or hacked)
$1000's+ in gold items it seems to work. Just wish i hadn't lost those 450 fights when i first started playing beofre I realised how equipment and mafia members worked.

I did the same. I just robbed and did missions before I came on this board. My fight record, most of which I did not pick, was 600-1050. Now it is 4954-1091.

[Dorian Gray]

It drives me nuts not knowing how the atk/def skill points work.

I guess I'm just used to games that tell you 'exactly' what effect spending skill points has on your character.

With energy and stamina you know exactly what you're getting. But if you're going to give up 10 energy and spend that point in attack instead, you really have no idea what you gave that 10 points up for exactly. How can you make a wise decision without any information??? Even games that tell you exactly what you're getting usually let you reallocate your points in some way to try different strategies out.

[AppleMacGuy]

Hi. I'm level 130 and my stats are:
Attack - 60
Defence - 60
Energy - 2100
Stamina - 50

IMO, how you distribute depends upon how you wanna play. For me, early on, I wanted to do rob and jobs so I increased energy/stamina rapidly. Then I realised that I was levelling up too fast (doh!) so I slowed down and focused on increasing ATT/DEF since I was weak - I wasn't sure either how it affected the game but it was pretty obvious it must have some effect otherwise way have it in the game lol! Fortunately CC Mark has given a broad hint as to how it works. Personally I'm quite happy with my distribution. Currently I'm working on getting Energy to 2500 then I'll go back to ATT/DEF to get them to around 80-100 each (whatever is available over the next 70 levels).

Increasing Energy has provoked a lot of debate with some saying you don't need more than 1500 or so allowing for sleep time - but you should not overlook the fact that every time you Level Up your energy and stamina will both _fully_ recharge all the way, which is quite handy for jobs in later levels that might require e.g. 12x 250 for one location/character. Also, it means that if you build your hood out with mostly 8/12/24/48 hours payout buildings you can leave the game for much longer periods without worrying that your enenergy has maxed out and you are loosing refill time - which in this game you want to avoid really.

My playing strategy is to consume Stamina to fight during the day when I'm working as I can do that quickly. After work and evenings I look to use the Stamina for selective robbing which takes time and effort.

Also, I believe that if you use gold to re-charge it only gives a max of approx. 1000 energy? That one caught me out once - it is a rip off trick IMO - it should fill you to your max. Also, I believe the same applies for Stamina in that only a max of 50 will be re-charged? Happy to be corrected.

All IMO...hope someone finds this useful.

Regards,

AppleMacGuy.
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[martMode]

it seems that att/def skill points does and should have some effect. that is the reason why some players here report others with significantly lower mafia att versus their mafia def can still win them.

[Ghost3]

I have 88 atk 70d 550 nrg and 8 stam mostly because I wanted to lvl slower but tbh haven't noticed much advantage to higher atk and def stats... Lvl 70 btw, but after seing others stats I'll be raising energy to about 1500 so I can keep timer going while at work

[BigCheese]

is there a cap to the skill u put in atk/def skill? lets say after certain atk skill add it wont increase the multiplier.

[Brent]

I'm at 104 with...
3000 energy
16 stamina
17 attack
11 defense

[SecretAgent]

I'm at level 39 with
35 Attack
25 Defense
600 Energy
10 Stamina
I spent way too much on attack and defense..and I still lose fights with some pretty good weapons.

[madawgg]

lvl 150 and i get 210 att 1600 energy and 60 stamina. ignore def lol

[Whoopdido1980]

Level 70
Attack 136
Defense 14
Energy 720
Stamina 8

I started out only doing storyline missions and while waiting for my energy to refill I'd fight/rob to fulfill the fight goals. I believe I'm done with all of them. I put basically every single skill point to attack. Now I plan to put skill points to energy up until about 1200 or so and then go back to attack.

[J.J.]

How are some of you able to farm for loot items with such low energy? I have 3550 energy at the moment and when I go to farm M4A1's sometimes I will only get 1 or 2 using that much energy.

[Babytway]

i recently up my energy to 690 but before that i only had about 500 and i used to get 2-3 a day and now i still get 2-3 a day ihaven't seen an increase or decrease

[whocareswhatmynameis]

How are some of you able to farm for loot items with such low energy? I have 3550 energy at the moment and when I go to farm M4A1's sometimes I will only get 1 or 2 using that much energy.

simple. multiple logins a day.

[Nudie]

Level 104
1170 energy about 4 M4's a day ( I want to bring this up to 1390)
69 stamina (mostly used for PvP) (69 is a mystic number)
A few (very few) defense points
Everything else goes into Attack

[dudeman]

I have enough energy capacity for it to almost fill when I sleep.

I'm pretty sure I will need more stamina later, but for now I have more than enough.

The rest of my skill points go to attack and defense.

[downrange]

[Crimer] Level 81
22 Attack
10 Defense
970 Energy
60 Stamina
--- 15 skill points banked.

[Keyser Soze] Level 73
35 Attack
15 Defense
540 Energy
60 Stamina
--- 17 skill points banked.

I told myself I'd stop at 60 stamina, but at times I think I want more. I don't think I'd take it over 75 or 80 but who knows! I can't figure how most of you folks get by with so much less stamina. I do a LOT of robbing though.

I know my energy seems low by comparison, but the 970 was spent before I knew what I was doing, and I find that 540 is better for me [for now]. That's the exact amount needed for 4 hits on the shooting gallery, even though i try to limit myself to three at a time based on khung's thread. With 540 I lose out a bit of energy refill while I sleep, but that's actually good for me for right now - I am probably already leveling a bit too fast for my own good, speeding toward the red zone. I'll probably add more to energy once I start to feel the red zone - to help me level through it.

Attack and Defense - still a bit undecided here. I've read in many threads what's been posted so far on the topic and still just scratch my head about what to do with these 15 and 17 points I've got sitting around, plus the points to come. *sigh* I see the logic posted above about how you can just spend on defense buildings, and that makes sense, but I also agree with the post about just always selecting rivals below 80%, which I do anyway. I know that both of those have limits - hood space, money to expand, money for def buildings - and that I won't always have the luxury of a seemingly endless supply of relatively weak rivals. But the HL game is still an unknown to me; revealed only by what I see you all post. I'm both scared and excited to eventually see what the game looks like up there!

[downrange]

JJ, I'm able to farm very effectively with my low energy. I usually have my devices with me, and unlike spending my stamina, which can take some time 'hunting' to find enough hoods with weak rivals and uncollected buildings, it's very quick to log in, swing by the carousel, say "hi there, bearded lady - please get out of my way again, ok!", and fire off three quick shots at the ducks (or whatever it is in there anyway).

Over time, I've always averaged out to the predicted drop rates, first at junkyard, then gallery. Crimer just got 201, and Keyser Soze has 132.

If I look at the exp delta between the two of a little over 30,000 and guesstimate that I get roughly 2/3 of my exp from farming, that's 20,000 exp. Divide by 43 (exp for gallery per hit) and I get I get about 465 hits of difference between the two accounts. Multiply by the drop rate of 0.14 and that's 65 guns. Just about the difference between them. Sure there's variation and dry spells etc. But I generally seem to get the predicted rate overall, right down to the delta between the two accounts.

[Anubis]

The in game data show levels 100-200 are a stat multiplier of x10. So if you have 40 att skill points that would give you an addidtional 400att.

Due to this, it seems logical to focus on either att or def after your happy with your stamina/energy levels. If everyone spreads them evenly then each person you fight your skill points will just wipe each other out.

Say you have 60att skill and your rival has 59def skill then you will only get the benefit of 1skill. As playing defensively is somewhat questionable in the game due the the tiny amounts of actual defence buildings give you, and the ability to rob players with higher defence easier then it is to beat them in rivals list it would prob be wise to go all out att skill points (After you are happy with energy/stamina).

Its just human nature really to spread something evenly over something you don't understand. Some players will obviously take chances and go all out att or def skill points but the majority will spread them evenly. As the game is very much dependant to attacking/robbing rivals I would really go all out att skill.


As a note to people who mass energy: Once you hit level 200 you won't get the free energy refills, and all the additional enerygy just means leveling faster. I think a forum member who wasn't happy with his skill point spread emailed funzio support to ask if he could 'respend' them - Idk if thats a viable option.

[hunter]

@Anubis: how many will you have attack points when you reach level 200 ?
10k ? 14k ? 24k ? 30k ? 40k ?
- if you got 10k - 14k attack points at level 200, a few hundreds attack skill points is what you really really need, they can give you a few thousands additional points...
- with those who achieve 30k - 40k attack points (by looting 500 M4A1s, stone hammers, nator gas mask, double deckers (shall funzio unlock it?), etc.) What is 3000 additional points ? nothing, against those 30k+ def, 3k is nothing.

instead of adding 300 points to attack skill points, it's better to add 300 points to energy, every level up give you 3000 free energy points, if you level 50 times, you already got free 150.000 energy points ~ 31 days of energy. It's a lot.

[Max Power]

Why on earth would you bank skill points?

[dudeman]

@Anubis: how many will you have attack points when you reach level 200 ?
10k ? 14k ? 24k ? 30k ? 40k ?
- if you got 10k - 14k attack points at level 200, a few hundreds attack skill points is what you really really need, they can give you a few thousands additional points...
- with those who achieve 30k - 40k attack points (by looting 500 M4A1s, stone hammers, nator gas mask, double deckers (shall funzio unlock it?), etc.) What is 3000 additional points ? nothing, against those 30k+ def, 3k is nothing.

instead of adding 300 points to attack skill points, it's better to add 300 points to energy, every level up give you 3000 free energy points, if you level 50 times, you already got free 150.000 energy points ~ 31 days of energy. It's a lot.

Skill points are a non-renewable resource. Energy and stamina regenerate on their own, the very definition of a renewable resource! It might take a month or longer to gain 50 levels, so in reality you are only getting double the amount of energy you would normally get in that time. It also means you gain levels more quickly, which will cause you to get matched up against higher level rivals. Level up faster than you can increase your stats and you're shooting yourself in the foot.

If you are patient enough, 31 days will get you 31 days worth of energy.


Why on earth would you bank skill points?

At one point I thought it would be a good idea to bank points until I reached a higher level so I could decide what to do with them based on my observations of rival's abilities. I quickly realized it was pointless to do that and spent the points.

[Nudie]

Should I use my skill points for more Energy or for Attack or Stamina?
I think it all depends on how one wants to play this game.
Energy will help you go thru the storyline faster and/or farm more.
More Attack when matched with more Stamina will allow more robberies & PvP action.
It's a personal choice.

[hunter]

Since I saw one with 500M4A1s & 500 Stone Hammers. with or without defense or attack skill points, he is certainly strong with 30k+ att/def point. How he got 500 M4A1s & 500 Stone Hammers while you guys struggle with a few hundreds M4A1s and dreaming the day the M4A1s quest end.

That's because the way you guys playing is wrong, a few hundreds defense point & still be ****d like a b*tch, a few hundreds attack point but still losing every fight, sh*t.

[dudeman]

Since I saw one with 500M4A1s & 500 Stone Hammers. with or without defense or attack skill points, he is certainly strong with 30k+ att/def point. How he got 500 M4A1s & 500 Stone Hammers while you guys struggle with a few hundreds M4A1s and dreaming the day the M4A1s quest end.

That's because the way you guys playing is wrong, a few hundreds defense point & still be ****d like a b*tch, a few hundreds attack point but still losing every fight, sh*t.

You make many assumptions based on few facts.

[Tramp Stamp]

I agree with consolidating on attack. Defense is easier to build than attack in the lower levels, yet defense means comparatively little in higher levels. I guess the proper answer is a certain ratio biased toward attack, but I haven't seen much, if any, work done in this area.

[Ram]

Attack - 24
Defense - 24
Energy - 3500
Stamina - 40